IRS Memo Says They Must Hand Over trump's Tax Returns

[busybee01]

The only exception the IRS says they have is if the president claims executive privilege.

The president can't legally claim that privilege for things that happened when he wasn't president and it only applies to matters with his cabinet and executive advisors.

That's on top of the fact that trump has not claimed it either.

Looks like the treasury secretary lied to congress. Again.

Secret IRS Legal Memo Says Trump's Tax Returns Must Be Handed Over to Congress – Mnuchin Lied and Refused

Actually, the President has the greatest reason in the world to claim Executive Privilege --

It's called 'National Security'.

For more than 3 Years Hillary and her team, the Obama administration, and now the Democrats in Congress have undermined this President and government and have and continue to attempt to conduct a political coup to reverse the results of the 2016 election.

3 years, 4 investigations, 100+ witnesses questioned, thousands of documents handed over, and the only prosecutable crimes that posed / pose a threat to our national security are the ones Democrats have and continue to perpetrate.

Nadler's and the Democrats' obsessive crusade to remove President Trump from office has been undeniably proven by not only the Chairman of the Judicial Committee' ordering the US AG to break the law but also holding the US AG in 'Contempt' for NOT obeying his demand to break the law.

The Chairman of the Judicial Committee and Speaker if the House ordering the top law enforcer in the United States to break the law and then punishing him for NOT breaking the law is an unprecedented assault on our Constitution and Rule of Law as well as a threat to our Democracy and National Security.

It shows the depths of their desperation and determination to remove this President of the United States.

HIGH-RANKING DEMOCRATS IN POSITIONS IF POWER WITHIN THE GOVT, ABUSING THEIR POSITIONS AND POWER demanding the US AG break the law and punishing him for not doing so also proves their actions have nothing to do with 'justice' or 'protecting this country's but is instead a mission to reversing the 2016 election results EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION AND RULE OF LAW TO SUCCESSFULLY CARRY OUT THEIR INITIAL FAILED COUP.

One of the continuing effect of their criminal course of action is the massive division tearing this country apart -- for the last 3 years the Trump-hating criminal Democrats have continued to successfully achieve what Russia's interference (that began in 2014) was intended to do divide this nation and undermine the President of the United States and the US Government.

This is proof the President has more than enough reason to fight the continuing Democrat attempt to affect what is in essence a political coup -- the removal of the President of United States from office...an effort that began the minute the winner of the 2016 election was announced.

The fact is that Trump has undermined himself. He has constantly lied and disregarded the Constitution. Voters oppose Trump's policies across the board. Trump thinks the DOJ and AG are there to protect him. He appoints people who sexually harasses women and in some cases sexually assaults them.

The fact is that the Mueller report is damning. Trump helped the Russians interfere in the Presidential race by giving them the campaign's strategy and internal polling data to someone tied into Russian Intelligence. They sought Russian help in getting dirt on Clinton. Roger Stone has ties to either WikiLeaks or Russians who hacked Podesta's e-mails. In addition Mueller was unable to exonerate Trump from potential obstruction of justice. Democrats were victimized by the Russian hacking and you want to make them the bad guy.

The fact is that Congress' oversight authority which is granted by the Constitution overrides any laws. The fact is that Congress as part of its oversight duties has the right to see the full unredacted report.

THE FACT IS THAT TRUMP IS IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION. HE DID SO WHEN HE IGNORED THE CONGRESS' CONSTITUTIONALLY GRANTED POWER OF THE PURSE. NOW HE IGNORES THEIR OVERSIGHT POWERS WHICH ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY GRANTED. The fact is that you ignore the Constitution when it is inconvenient for Trump but you rush to use the Constitution when you think it helps him.

Donald Trump is tearing this country apart. He is only worried about his far right wing base. Trump is the one who undermined himself. For example, he admitted he fired Comey after Rosenstein gave him a way out. He has appointed people to the courts who have sexually assaulted women. He has appointed people who refuse to call Brown vs the Board of Education settled law. Worth noting Gorsuch did that.

The only political coup going on is the massive power grab that Trump is trying to pull off aided by a corrupt AG.

THE FACT IS THAT TRUMP IS IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION. HE DID SO WHEN HE IGNORED THE CONGRESS' CONSTITUTIONALLY GRANTED POWER OF THE PURSE.


So you agree Obama Care is unconstitutional, the bill started in the Senate.


Check

Obamacare is not unconstitutional. Spending bills such as the budget must start in the House. Obamacare was not a spending bill.

 

[Issa]

Democrats are starting to make it look like Nazi Germany, aren't they?

Let's take them out of the equation....trump promised he will release his taxes? Why he doesnt want to?
Why is he also blocking people from seing his grades?

Do you honestly think that trump if he had clean returns and amazing grades, he wouldnt be showing them off every minute ?
I mean the guy is the biggest narcissist and show off to mankind.

The cult actually believes that Trump is taking some sort of moral high ground & defending "The Presidency" in stonewalling at every turn. The same Trump who screwed around with a porn star then paid her hush money. It's fucking laughable.

Trump doesn't give a shit about the office of the Presidency. He's covering his own sorry ass. That's it.

Sounds like you're talking about the other side. The Commies are going to be on record as hounding a President for four years with worthless investigations because they are scared of letting him do his work. The more work he does, the better for the country. The better for the country, the worse for Democrats.

Be honest with yourself and answer my question please.

I only answer questions once......once. If you can't understand the answer and nobody is around to explain it to you, that's your problem--not mine.

Keep lying to yourself. Trump is your new god.

 

[busybee01]

It is Republicans who are trying to take away people's right to vote and if they do Republicans try to prevent the vote from being counted. You want to make the votes of people who vote against you invalid. The fact is that Congress has every right to perform its oversight duty.

GOP hasn't taken the right of any legit voters' right to vote away. I get the fact that you're desperate and need a new lie to spread.

Oversight did not include in Fascist
powers to override the Bill of Rights.

Let's me make it easy for you: What would you say if Trump ordered the IRS and FBI to dig into every Democrat Leadership members taxes and private info for political reasons? Would you be okay with that?

The fact is that Congress has the oversight powers over the Executive Branch which includes the IRS. The fact is that Trump is not a private citizen and he is not under a criminal investigation. The Bill of Rights is a smokescreen. Trump is the one who wants Fascist powers. He wants to override the Constitutionally granted power of the purse that was given to Congress.

The IRS already has their taxes. The FBI is a law enforcement agency that has to meet certain legal standards. You are comparing apples and oranges.

What bill do they have drafted that they need info from Trump's tax returns for?

There does not have to be a bill. Thanks for showing your ignorance. The Congress can see Trump's tax returns to see how the IRS treats Trump's tax returns. That could lead to legislation.


George Mason of Virginia said at the Federal Convention that Members of Congress “are not only Legislators but they possess inquisitorial powers. They must meet frequently to inspect the Conduct of the public offices.”

Origins
The constitutional framers assumed that Congress would conduct investigations as the British House of Commons conducted them. James Wilson of Pennsylvania, a future Supreme Court Justice and Convention delegate, wrote in a 1774 essay that members of the Commons were considered “grand inquisitors of the realm. The proudest ministers of the proudest monarchs have trembled at their censures; and have appeared at the bar of the house, to give an account of their conduct, and ask pardon for their faults.” When the U.S. House convened in 1789, it established an early set of select committees, such as Rules and Ways and Means, to structure the legislative process including investigations.

Investigations & Oversight | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

 

[edward37]

The only exception the IRS says they have is if the president claims executive privilege.

The president can't legally claim that privilege for things that happened when he wasn't president and it only applies to matters with his cabinet and executive advisors.

That's on top of the fact that trump has not claimed it either.

Looks like the treasury secretary lied to congress. Again.

Secret IRS Legal Memo Says Trump's Tax Returns Must Be Handed Over to Congress – Mnuchin Lied and Refused

Bank records too Scump is a dead man walking

 

[WEATHER53]

IRS memos no trump Trump.

 

[edward37]

IRS memos don't undo laws or the Constitution.

This isn't NAZI Germany.

Err..just to point out..that both the constitution and the law of the land support Congress's right to order the IRS to provide materials needed in an investigation.

Back at you..an Executive Order or Executive Privilege do not undo the law or the Constitution either.

Judges say trump pos can't stop banking and tax records from House view

 

[busybee01]

Err..just to point out..that both the constitution and the law of the land support Congress's right to order the IRS to provide materials needed in an investigation.

Back at you..an Executive Order or Executive Privilege do not undo the law or the Constitution either.

Tell me again what their legislative need is?

There is no requirement for that in the law.

You are obviously ignorant of the law... I wont wast my time explaining it to you AGAIN!

This is the law we are talking about.

"
(f) Disclosure to Committees of Congress
(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation


Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

(2) Chief of Staff of Joint Committee on Taxation
Upon written request by the Chief of Staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish him with any return or return information specified in such request. Such Chief of Staff may submit such return or return information to any committee described in paragraph (1), except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

(3) Other committees
Pursuant to an action by, and upon written request by the chairman of, a committee of the Senate or the House of Representatives (other than a committee specified in paragraph (1)) specially authorized to inspect any return or return information by a resolution of the Senate or the House of Representatives or, in the case of a joint committee (other than the joint committee specified in paragraph (1)) by concurrent resolution, the Secretary shall furnish such committee, or a duly authorized and designated subcommittee thereof, sitting in closed executive session, with any return or return information which such resolution authorizes the committee or subcommittee to inspect. Any resolution described in this paragraph shall specify the purpose for which the return or return information is to be furnished and that such information cannot reasonably be obtained from any other source."

There are np ifs ands or buts in the law. Try reading it for a change instead of making it up.

there is no requirement for trump to provide his taxes in order to be president.

the dems are on a fishing expedition and trump is likely saying "NO" not because he's hiding anything (but he could be - the IRS would have had to miss it however and they don't miss) but because he's trolling the left as long as he can.

if you want presidential candidates to provide tax history, then follow due process of law and build that into the system for the future and see if you can get it through. otherwise this is just whining ass bullshit from the left crying out for anything they can to auto-victimize themselves.

The fact is that Congress already has the power to receive tax returns of any individual. It does not state anything about intent or other catchphrases you have used. We already have due process and the law requires the IRS to do it. It does not give any wiggle room.

 

[SmokeALib]

The only exception the IRS says they have is if the president claims executive privilege.

The president can't legally claim that privilege for things that happened when he wasn't president and it only applies to matters with his cabinet and executive advisors.

That's on top of the fact that trump has not claimed it either.

Looks like the treasury secretary lied to congress. Again.

Secret IRS Legal Memo Says Trump's Tax Returns Must Be Handed Over to Congress – Mnuchin Lied and Refused

It's a memo. Who gives a shit...

 

[LeeOnLido]

what about Hillarys tax returns?

 

[busybee01]

It shouldn't bother Trump to turn over the tax returns he said he would..

I don't think anyone anticipated the pandemic of TDS that has libtards calling the suicide hotline every time Trump tweets something they don't like.

It is Trump supporters who have TDS. The reason is simple. To defend Trump, you have to sound stupid and crazy to boot. You certainly qualify.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Tell me again what their legislative need is?

There is no requirement for that in the law.

You are obviously ignorant of the law... I wont wast my time explaining it to you AGAIN!

This is the law we are talking about.

"
(f) Disclosure to Committees of Congress
(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation


Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

(2) Chief of Staff of Joint Committee on Taxation
Upon written request by the Chief of Staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish him with any return or return information specified in such request. Such Chief of Staff may submit such return or return information to any committee described in paragraph (1), except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

(3) Other committees
Pursuant to an action by, and upon written request by the chairman of, a committee of the Senate or the House of Representatives (other than a committee specified in paragraph (1)) specially authorized to inspect any return or return information by a resolution of the Senate or the House of Representatives or, in the case of a joint committee (other than the joint committee specified in paragraph (1)) by concurrent resolution, the Secretary shall furnish such committee, or a duly authorized and designated subcommittee thereof, sitting in closed executive session, with any return or return information which such resolution authorizes the committee or subcommittee to inspect. Any resolution described in this paragraph shall specify the purpose for which the return or return information is to be furnished and that such information cannot reasonably be obtained from any other source."

There are np ifs ands or buts in the law. Try reading it for a change instead of making it up.

there is no requirement for trump to provide his taxes in order to be president.

the dems are on a fishing expedition and trump is likely saying "NO" not because he's hiding anything (but he could be - the IRS would have had to miss it however and they don't miss) but because he's trolling the left as long as he can.

if you want presidential candidates to provide tax history, then follow due process of law and build that into the system for the future and see if you can get it through. otherwise this is just whining ass bullshit from the left crying out for anything they can to auto-victimize themselves.

The fact is that Congress already has the power to receive tax returns of any individual. It does not state anything about intent or other catchphrases you have used. We already have due process and the law requires the IRS to do it. It does not give any wiggle room.

Hmmm. According to the IRS, you are wrong. Here is a list of when the IRS is allowed to disclose tax information, and there is nothing in any of these provisions about Congress.

Disclosure Laws | Internal Revenue Service

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

what about Hillarys tax returns?

Those were bleach bitted.

 

[edward37]

IRS memos don't undo laws or the Constitution.

This isn't NAZI Germany.

Err..just to point out..that both the constitution and the law of the land support Congress's right to order the IRS to provide materials needed in an investigation.

Back at you..an Executive Order or Executive Privilege do not undo the law or the Constitution either.

Judges say trump pos can't stop banking and tax records from House view

MNUCHIN lied and now is in hot water for telling the IRS commissioner not to turn over tax info

 

[busybee01]

This thread is a joke and illustrates the desperation of the leftists.

This shows who believes in the Constitution and laws and who cares only when it is for their team. Trump supporters are the later.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This thread is a joke and illustrates the desperation of the leftists.

This shows who believes in the Constitution and laws and who cares only when it is for their team. Trump supporters are the later.

Quit with the lies already. There is nothing in the US Constitution that allows Congress to spy on the President in regards to what he paid in taxes.

 

[edward37]

IRS memos don't undo laws or the Constitution.

This isn't NAZI Germany.

Democrats are starting to make it look like Nazi Germany, aren't they?

Trump is covering up A crook a scum a republican ,,But I repeat myself

 

[edward37]

This thread is a joke and illustrates the desperation of the leftists.

This shows who believes in the Constitution and laws and who cares only when it is for their team. Trump supporters are the later.

And those POS dare call themselves patriots?? What a fn joke they are

 

[WEATHER53]

There are no laws nor anything in the Constitution about providing his taxes to Congress, the public, anywhere except to the IRS. On their part, if anything they are required to keep private.
That’s how it works in the USA. Try Venezuela for what you are seeking

 

[WEATHER53]

Scary stuff
If you don’t give us what we demand, but are not entitled to, then we will declare cover up and launch another miserable, shrill investigation. Sounds like Soviet stuff.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

IRS memos don't undo laws or the Constitution.

This isn't NAZI Germany.

Democrats are starting to make it look like Nazi Germany, aren't they?

Trump is covering up A crook a scum a republican ,,But I repeat myself

No, you repeat CNN, and nothing more.