Is anyone but me upset that transgenders are ruining womens' and girls' sports?

[JoeB131]

2% of all men accused of rape.

140k rapes per year. A couple studies I looked at about 5% result in pregnancy. That’s 7k pregnancies due to rape. Almost a million abortions per year in the US. So what about the other 993k?

That's a decision between a woman and her doctor.

We don't know how many rapes there are a year, because it is mostly not reported.

 

[22lcidw]

Nope, they aren't at all. Feminists joined right wing Anti-Porn crusades, which helped bolster Ronald Reagan. Reagan appointed wingnuts to the courts who rolled back women's rights in rulings on issues like comparable worth. Ed Meese

Women Against Pornography - Wikipedia

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Well, besides the ERA being defeated on a fear campaign. Reagan slashed a lot of welfare programs that benefited women, he fought against equal pay measures.

Opinion | REAGAN VS. WOMEN (Published 1981)

www.nytimes.com

Time to Bury Reagan's Legacy for Women – Women's eNews

In a special commentary, Martha Burk, head of an organization representing 6 million women, argues President Reagan injected into Republican politics a strain of virulent anti-woman policies that continues to infect its ideology.

womensenews.org

Yes, I remember it well. I also remember that the other panic button the misogynists hit was that women would be sent into combat. Guess what, we've sent women into combat, and they've done just fine.

So essentially, the misogynists beat back the ERA, but ended up with gender-free bathrooms and women in combat anyway.



You say that like it's a bad thing? Darn straight we want tomake guns harder to get, and ridiculously expensive. Letting poor crazy people have guns is just a stupid idea.

Now, on to porn. Yes, people really want porn. We've moved from big publishing houses like Playboy and Hustler to "Only Fans" where couples desperate for money film themselves having flabby sex. This is an improvement, how, exactly?

Rolled back women's rights? If China invaded our nation with troops, it would take over great swaths of territory.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Fetuses aren't babies, Bob.

OK, Göbbels.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Pro-Abortion Lie: “An Acorn Is Not An Oak Tree”

This is a lie that those who support the cold-blooded murder of the most innocent and defenseless of all human beings sometimes tell, in order to justify denying the humanity of those victims whose murder they support — “An acorn is not an oak tree.” I've addressed this lie a few times, by...

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[Carl in Michigan]

Who wants to waste their time watching womens sports?

Depends on the sport

 

[Couchpotato]

That's a decision between a woman and her doctor.

We don't know how many rapes there are a year, because it is mostly not reported.

But we know it’s not 19 million don’t we that’s how many women would have to raped to equal 993k abortions.

Just as I thought. Ton don’t really give a shit about raped women you’d defend abortion regardless of the reason

 

[Jarlaxle]

How many times has this happened; just a ball park figure on how many dudes are playing women’s sports.

Once is too often.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Happy New Year! I wish you much prosperity, sincerely.

Those two sentences are completely largely counter-factual.

The feminists never "teamed up" with the Religious Right. They would have been too busy insulting each other to get anything done. They happened to both want what each considered "pornography" to be censored, each for their own reasons. Stop making up facts, it slows down grownup debate.

No women's rights were "rolled back," whatsoever due to the religious right. Anita Bryant almost single-handedly stopped the ERA from being passed. But the courts since have effectively ratified it with their rulings.

You may not remember this, but one of the reasons folks gave for opposing the ERA was that it might allow men to use the Women's bathrooms, and gays to marry. Liberals said anyone who thought that was a nut job. Ha freakin ha, huh?

But, the porn industry is doing just fine. You got that right. A good lesson for the authoritarians of any political stripe: Guns, drugs, pornography, fatty food, girls sports, men's clubs, compact muscle cars, MAGA hats, or whatever. The government cannot stop people from having what they really want, they can just make it more annoying and expensive to have them.

Never contradict Joey, he knows ALL!

Pure hyperbole .. what evidence do you have that women don't have equal pay for equal work given the type of occupations and time demand for male v. female? How is the consent to have sex, with the known possible outcomes, turning women into breeding machines?

Joey doesn't do "evidence."

The Enduring Grip of the Gender Pay Gap

The pay gap between men and women has barely closed in the past two decades, even as women today are more likely than men to have graduated from college, suggesting other factors are at play.

www.pewresearch.org

The gender pay gap – the difference between the earnings of men and women – has barely closed in the United States in the past two decades. In 2022, American women typically earned 82 cents for every dollar earned by men. That was about the same as in 2002, when they earned 80 cents to the dollar.

If that were accurate, no company would hire men, because they could hire women and pay them 20% less. For the record, in the 18 years I have had my current job, I recall exactly ONE woman who has even APPLIED to work there. (She wasn't hired because she couldn't drive well.)

What type of jobs do men do that most women do not and how many hours do each work? The pay gap is a myth is a sum of the whole and ignores the reality that men perform more dangerous jobs that women do not. Common jobs held by men that women do not:

• Construction
• Electricians
• Plumbers
• Welders
• Carpenters
• Mining workers

Meanwhile, common jobs held by women include:

• School teacher
• Waitress / Hostess
• Nursing
• Nursing Assistance
• Retail Sales
• Human Resources

Again .. the pay gap is a myth that skews the statistic to create a fictitious problem


If it isn't a big deal, then why did you call it out?

Because Joey is a disciple of Goebbels.

Rolled back women's rights? If China invaded our nation with troops, it would take over great swaths of territory.

Uhh. What.

 

[el midgetron]

99% of abortions are a matter of convenience. Rape victims have access to the morning after pill.

If a fetus isn’t a baby, then it should be legal to smash the eggs of endangered animals like sea turtles.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

 

[JoeB131]

Pro-Abortion Lie: “An Acorn Is Not An Oak Tree”

This is a lie that those who support the cold-blooded murder of the most innocent and defenseless of all human beings sometimes tell, in order to justify denying the humanity of those victims whose murder they support — “An acorn is not an oak tree.” I've addressed this lie a few times, by...

www.usmessageboard.com

We've been over this, Bob, but let's do it again.

Most acorns never become trees. An oak tree will drop hundreds of acorns. Most of them are gathered up by squirrels and other animals as food, others are trampled underfoot, a very few become saplings, but most of those never grow to be trees.

As for fetuses... two-thirds of fertilized zygotes never attach to the uterine wall. At least 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. (Probably more). And about half end up in abortions because at the end of the day, it's the woman's choice.

Now, you'll write off miscarriages as "God's Will," which is just the religious asshole's method of explaining the capricious nature of the universe. (There is no God, and shit just happens.)

I'm happy to say we've superseded God with Science. We've reduced the infant mortality rate from 50% to less than 1% in even the poorest countries. We allow women to give birth without pain through medicine. Maternal death is rare today.

But, wait... the Bible says that childbirth has to be painful because Eve listened to the talking snake and ate fruit from the tree! How dare we ignore God?

So the reality is, we have abortion to simply compensate for the fact we've eliminated child mortality. God doesn't choose anymore, we do.

Seems pretty sensible to me.

 

[JoeB131]

99% of abortions are a matter of convenience. Rape victims have access to the morning after pill.

If a fetus isn’t a baby, then it should be legal to smash the eggs of endangered animals like sea turtles.

Your logic is faulty. Humans aren't an endangered species.

We smash the eggs of chickens all the time. Nobody cares if the egg is a chicken.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

We've been over this, Bob, but let's do it again.

Most acorns never become trees. An oak tree will drop hundreds of acorns. Most of them are gathered up by squirrels and other animals as food, others are trampled underfoot, a very few become saplings, but most of those never grow to be trees.

As for fetuses... two-thirds of fertilized zygotes never attach to the uterine wall. At least 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. (Probably more). And about half end up in abortions because at the end of the day, it's the woman's choice.

Now, you'll write off miscarriages as "God's Will," which is just the religious asshole's method of explaining the capricious nature of the universe. (There is no God, and shit just happens.)

I'm happy to say we've superseded God with Science. We've reduced the infant mortality rate from 50% to less than 1% in even the poorest countries. We allow women to give birth without pain through medicine. Maternal death is rare today.

But, wait... the Bible says that childbirth has to be painful because Eve listened to the talking snake and ate fruit from the tree! How dare we ignore God?

So the reality is, we have abortion to simply compensate for the fact we've eliminated child mortality. God doesn't choose anymore, we do.

Seems pretty sensible to me.

That line of logic was bullshit every past time you've stated it, and it is still bullshit.

That some people die anywhere short of a normal, full, lifespan, does not mean that they were any less human. My Uncle Mark and my Aunt Phyllis, on my father's side, each lived less than a day after they were born. Were they not human?

My Uncle Richard, on my mother's side, died as a toddler. Was he not human?

The organism that comes into existence at human conception is undeniably the very same organism, that at later stages in its life, we will recognize as an infant, a child, an adolescent, and an adult. The same organism, the same life form, the same human being; just as the immature plant that is found inside the seed of every seed-bearing plant, is the exact same organism that, later in its life, we would recognize as a mature form of that plant.

Of course it is no surprise, ever to hear you make excuses for the murder of innocents. It's in your Aryan blood, passed down from your ancestors in The Old Country.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Where is the push-back from the so-called Women's Movement?

I'm not. They demanded all that equality. They want to join the military, then they wanted combat arms MOS's opened up to women.

Women can do anything a man can do. We've been hearing that for decades. It's time to ante up.

 

[TheParser]

Where is the push-back from the so-called Women's Movement?

The Women's Movement is between a rock and a hard place.

It advocates for women's rights.

It also advocates for the rights of marginalized sexual groups.

 

[Seymour Flops]

That's a decision between a woman and her doctor.

Really?

So if the doctors says, "I know this was not the optimum time for you to get pregnant, but it's not horrible. You have a good job that gives more than the required maternity leave, you have supportive parents who are looking forward to taking care of the grandchild while you're at work, and your boyfriend is clearly pressuring you into this.

"As a doctor, I know that the life inside you has separate DNA, a heartbeat, brainwaves, and all other markers that make a human a living person. I've also read studies of howf requently women in your position regret having had an abortion, and how high their suicide rate is.

"So, let's forget this idea, and have you start taking birthing and parenting classes."

You'd be fine with that?

Or do you think you know more than a doctor about her patient?

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Where is the push-back from the so-called Women's Movement?

if every time a gender dysphoric mentally ill man who thinks he is a girl steps up to compete, all the real girls should just walk away from the event.boycott everything....it will soon stop

folks these are very sexually perverted mentally ill people promoting this and trying to destroy us....no mas....no mas

 

[JoeB131]

That line of logic was bullshit every past time you've stated it, and it is still bullshit.

That some people die anywhere short of a normal, full, lifespan, does not mean that they were any less human. My Uncle Mark and my Aunt Phyllis, on my father's side, each lived less than a day after they were born. Were they not human?

Sure they were. But if their parents decided to abort them six weeks into the pregnancy, they wouldn't be.

I have an aunt who died as an infant in 1944. Not sure why my grandmother was still making a baby at 44 years old, but she was.

The organism that comes into existence at human conception is undeniably the very same organism, that at later stages in its life, we will recognize as an infant, a child, an adolescent, and an adult. The same organism, the same life form, the same human being; just as the immature plant that is found inside the seed of every seed-bearing plant, is the exact same organism that, later in its life, we would recognize as a mature form of that plant.

Except- again- most fetuses/zygotes don't become babies. A lot of women in my family have had miscarriages... they don't treat it the way they would have treated losing an actual baby. (something that hasn't happened in my family since the 1940's.)

Joe's ideal world, contraception would always work and women would only have sex with men who are good husband material. We don't live in an ideal world. We live in a real world where women will become pregnant at a time they don't want to be mothers.

 

[JoeB131]

Really?

So if the doctors says, "I know this was not the optimum time for you to get pregnant, but it's not horrible. You have a good job that gives more than the required maternity leave, you have supportive parents who are looking forward to taking care of the grandchild while you're at work, and your boyfriend is clearly pressuring you into this.

"As a doctor, I know that the life inside you has separate DNA, a heartbeat, brainwaves, and all other markers that make a human a living person. I've also read studies of howf requently women in your position regret having had an abortion, and how high their suicide rate is.

"So, let's forget this idea, and have you start taking birthing and parenting classes."

You'd be fine with that?

Or do you think you know more than a doctor about her patient?

I wouldn't get involved one way or the other.

Her doctor can say that, but then she should be free to tell him to go fuck himself and find a doctor that will do the job that she went there to get done. We also need to identify these scammers who claim to provide abortion services and then try to talk women out of it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I'm 62 years old, and I've encountered one Transgender person in my life, and that person wasn't out at the time. (I'm sure I've encountered others and never knew I did, but that's another issue.)

Yes, you've said that before. That may be part of the problem, that you don't get out enough. Where do you live, that you are so insulated?

OH, NO, A PENIS!!!!

How about

"OH, NO, THEY WON'T LET ME PLAY GIRLS' GAMES! THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN THOSE MEAN GIRLS IN THIRD GRADE WOULD NOT LET ME PLAY EASY BACK OVEN WITH THEM. THE TEACHER MADE THOSE BULLIES INCLUDE ME, AND NOW THE DEMOCRATS WILL MAKE THESE MEAN GIRLS LET ME BE ON THE WOMEN'S DIVE TEAM!

"BEST PART IS THAT THEY WILL REALIZE HOW WRONG THEY WERE. JUST LIKE THE EASY BAKE OVER GIRLS DID. NOT ONLY DID THEY LET ME HELP THEM MAKE THE LITTLE CAKE AFTER THEY MIXED THE INGREDIENTS, BUT THEY LET ME EAT THE WHOLE THING! THEY JUST SAT THEIR SMILING AND LOOKING AT EACH OTHER WHILE I ATE IT. SEE HOW NICE PEOPLE ARE WHEN YOU FORCE THEM?

Riley Gaines is there to get some of that sweet, sweet Title IX money, she can learn to deal.

Again, simple enough solution. Get rid of Title IX, get rid of all these bullshit scholarships, and let the girls organize their own clubs with their own money and they can make whatever rules they want. But as long as you are going to stick your hands in my pocket as a taxpayer, then you are going to have to learn to deal with some tranny with a schlong.

Yeah, you've said that before and it ain't happening. I may agree with you as a libertarian, but as long as a program is set aside for women, let it be for women. For sports, there is a clear justification, as Mr. Thomas' sudden rise from mediocricy to champtionship shows.

I guess you are working on the assumption that all these athletes are virgins and have no idea what a penis looks like. It's nice to be naive, but the reality is, teenagers are having sexual encounters. Deal with it.

Funny with you Democrats, how flexible you are. Ten years ago, walking into a sports locker room and flashing female athletes would have been black letter sexual harassment. But now that there is a new victim class, it over-rides the needs of women for privacy and safety.

Yes, thanks to the left, our young ladies are exposed to all kinds of trashy behavior. Doesn't mean tax dollars have to support it.

Like that case in VA you all went ape-shit over in 2021, and then it was later found out that the girl in question was having a relationship with the "gender-fluid" boy and had hooked up with him in that bathroom multiple times.

Both of the girls he raped?

I'm sure a lot of teachers overreact. It's kind of like whenever there's a school shooting, they are pretty much strip-searching the kids for toy guns and pocket knives for a month afterward until everything calms down.

Again that is part of the "guns = evil" culture. You do know who perpetuates that, right? Hint: it's the ones who know practically nothing about guns.

It's estimated that 0.3% to 1% of the population is transgender.

Estimated by whom? Using what measures?

I don't know if you mean that to say that there are not many or a lot of transgenders, and I don't see how it matters. One creep stripping down in front of, injuring, and displacing females who just wanted their shot at participating in sports is one two many.

How many people did Anita Hill accuse of sexually harassing her? Only one, and your boys in the (KKK) hood were ready to lynch that one. He only talked about big dicks, he didn't show her one. So, should we have said, "OH, I HEARD A MAN SAY THE NAME OF A PORN STAR!"

I get it. Democrat men finally got tired of playing second fiddle to "oppressed" women of the feminist movement. But the answer should have been to act like a man and stop letting yourselves be pushed around. Not to act like a girl so you can harass females who may not even be feminists.