Skylar
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'Supposedly'? Dude, it was a Catholic school, run by Catholics, with a Catholic Saint in the name. St. Francis of Assisi Catholic School. He want there for 1st, 2nd, and part of 3rd grade. He want to a State run school for part 3rd grade and 4th grade, called State Elementary School Menteng 01.
A state run school that was so liberal, some of the teachers wore miniskirts and students were encouraged to celebrate Christmas.
But you know better than his former teachers and classmates, huh? Remember, and this point is fundamental: You're hopelessly ignorant. You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. And your making your narrative up as you go along based on what you want to believe, rather than what the evidence supports.
Back in reality, when you go back and check with the actual folks that attended or taught at the school....far from the hard core, memorize the Koran by the age of 9, fundamentalist madrassa that you imagine where Obama was converted to Islam for life, Obama wasn't a practicing Muslim, and the school wasn't particularly religious.
Religious studies occurred weekly, for a grand total of 2 hours a week of studying Islam. The rest of the time, it was like any other public school.
Yeah, nothing says 'life long Muslim by the age of 8' like Christmas trees.
The entire period at a State run Indonesian school was 18 months. Yet you claim that from 18 months of attendance in a State run, with a grand total of 2 hours of study of Islam a week at a school 40 years ago, he somehow learned the entire Koran and became a life long secret Muslim.....despite his mother, grandmother, and grandfather being Christian, Obama self declaring Christian faith, his 20 year attendance at a Christian church, his marriage to a Christian, his baptism as a Christian, and is children's baptism as Christian?
That's some weak, weak tea.
And why is 6 to 8 any more or less 'formative' than 8 to 9. Or 10 to 17 for that matter? Your standards are arbitrary, uselessly subjective, and factually baseless. And of course, overwhelmingly contradicted by the evidence.
I take it you're not used to be contradicted on the silly shit that you post. Notice you don't actually address any of the truck sized holes blown into the OP's fractured 'logic' by the very facts you claim to support. But instead flee from them entirely, tail tucked snuggly between your legs.
Its not like Obama's Christian faith magically disappears just because its inconvenient to your argument. Nor does the fact that Obama's mother, grand mother and grandfather.....responsible for virtually all of Obama's upbringing, were all Christians. Or that Obama attended a Christian church for 20 years. Or that he married a Christian and had his children baptized as Christian.
Yet astonishingly, and for no particular reason, you pretend none of this ever happened. But why would a rational person ignore these amazingly relevant facts when assessing Obama's religious faith?
There is no reason to ignore any of the theory killing holes in your argument. The OP is simply speculative nonsense grounded in the same desperate, willful ignorance that motivated you to ignore all the facts that obliterate the 'Obama is a muslim' silliness.
You can ignore the facts. But you can't make anyone else ignore them.
Says you, citing yourself. And you don't know what you're talking about. You didn't attend any of Reverend Wright's sermons. You've been exposed to few seconds of sounds bites from a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of percent of them. And laughably, you pretend that you're the President again. Insisting that whatever you make up about Obama's motivations must be true. And ignore anything the President has to say about his own motivations entirely.
Um, no. The President is the world's authority on his own motivations and beliefs. While you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.
Appeased them by......what? Negotiating with them, just like Bush? Failing to bomb them, just like Bush? Iran's nuclear history with the US goes back to 2003. With Iran's announcement of uranium enrichment facilities going being in 2002. They've been building nuclear power plants in the country since 1992.
And what did Bush do? Exactly what Obama is doing: talking to the Iranians. When in 2005 Iran removed the seals on its uranium enrichment facilities in express violation of their agreements , what did Bush do in reply? He talked even more to the Iranians.
But when Obama talks to the Iranians....he's 'appeasing'?
You're either wildly ignorant of the history of the US and IRan's nuclear program, stunning hypocritical in your approach to talks, or awkwardly trying to revise history by ignoring the bits that destroy your argument.
Pick one.
Says who? Again, your record of accuracy so far has been hopelessly pathetic. You're going to need to provide evidence to back that statement up, as you citing yourself is useless. And of course, we're talking about attacks on the US. And there are Muslim groups o' plenty that have condemned such attacks.
So I ask again, are you claiming that 'most' American muslims want the US, the very country they live in, to burn?
The 2008 Status of Forces agreement that called for a withdraw of US troops by the end of 2011. Bush agreed to this. 'Demanding' one thing and agreeing to something else means exactly jack shyte. What matters is what Bush agreed to.
The withdraw schedule followed by Obama was the *very* withdraw schedule that Bush agreed to in 2008. Not 'some' US forces. Not 'all but 10,000' US forces. But all US forces.
Yet in another stunning act of willful ignorance, you pretend that Bush never agreed to this, reimagine the SOFA to include 10,000 troops, and try and pretend that the Bush administration itself didn't negotiate the very schedule that Obama followed.
Just because you close your eyes doesn't mean the world disappears. Or that history magically changes just because its inconvenient to your argument.
And the 'treacherous voting base' that you so casually condemn is the will of the Iraqi people. You know, the folks that Bush insisted would greet us as liberators. Te one's that Bush insisted we empower by overthrowing Saddam and instituting democracy.
Remember them?
Apparently its only 'democracy' in your mind if the people agree with you. If not, its mere 'treachery'. Even when the time table we're following is exactly what we already agreed to. So now that we have the facts straight, riddle me this: if Bush's time table is proof someone is a Muslim.....then wouldn't Bush, the man who negotiated that time table, be a Muslim by the same logic?
Yeah, I know....that would mandate you apply a semblance of consistent standards. And we both know that's not happening.
Again, you ignore the Status of Force Agreements, democracy, and history. Nor do you actually disagree with anything I've said. You already know that Afghanistan refused to extend its SOFA with the US to allow our troops to remain. You already know that the democratically elected government of Afghanistan had already asked us to leave. You already know that we've been 'on the verge of victory'......for a decade.
With no particular end in sight.
But just because you ignore these facts doesn't mean that anyone else is obligated to. You fail yet again.
Who says he 'knows the Koran by heart? You do, citing yourself....making it up as you go along. You're using your imagination to support your imagination, with nothing verified in the actual world. Show us the evidence that Obama 'knows the Koran by heart'. Or admit you just made that claim up.
Even logically, your latest steaming pill of rhetorical bullshite makes no sense. He was only at the State school for 18 months. For your delusional narrative to be accurate, that school would have had to have been solely dedicated to memorizing the Koran. Which, of course, it wasn't......it studied Islam for only 2 hours a WEEK. And Obama would have had to have memorized more than a page and a quarter a day, every day, including weekends and holidays, to memorize the Koran. And retain every letter of every word of every page, without exception.
At 8 years old. What kind of a super genius do you assume 8 year old Obama was?
But it still gets worse. He attended a State run school for 18 months. He want to a Catholic School in the same country for 24 months. Yet in another stunning example of wildly inconsistent standards, you insist that 18 months in a State school makes one a life long muslim....while 24 months in a Catholic School DOESN'T make one a life long Catholic?
Do you always wipe your ass with your own standards? Or only when we're talking about Obama?
And of course, the claim that a year and a half in a State school when you're 8 and 9 years old makes one a life long Muslim is baseless nonsense. Just you pretending it must be so. And your imagination doesn't define anything in the real world.
Even your standards are uselessly inconsistent. You insist that 4 years in a Muslim country makes one a Muslim. But 46 years in a Christian country *doesn't* make one a Christian. Despite Obama admitting he's a Christian, being raised by Christian mother, grandmother and grandfather, attending a christian church for 20 years, marrying a Christian, being baptized as a Christian, and having both of his baptized as Christians.
Dude....that's just silly. Your own standards prove Obama's a Christian. He spent more time in a Catholic school than he ever did a State run school in Indonesia. He spent an order of magnitude more time in a Christian country than he ever did a Muslim one. And he was raised by Christians. Yet, you inexplicably conclude that Obama must be a *muslim*?
Your argument just doesn't make the slightest sense. And its laughably contradicted by mountains of evidence that you simply ignore. No one interested in the truth ever would.
Yet when Obama says he's a Christian, you insist that his own words on his own faith be ignored, and you pretending to speak for Obama be believed.
Um, you don't know shyte about Obama's faith. YOu've never met the man, you don't know him, you've never been in the same room with him. While Obama remains the world's leading authority on his own faith. Laughing.....but you know his heart of hearts, huh? Because you say so?
Um, no.
And 'queer'? Yeah, nothing says 'queer' like girlfriends galore in college, and a wife and 2 kids. You've crossed into naked delusion, ignoring almost every relevant fact so you can keep polishing your little turd of an argument. And all you've managed to do is cover yourself in some rather ignorant shit.
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