Is increasing population a primary component of Dem platforms..Does that improve the quality of life

[007]

"IMMIGRATION" is CODE SPEAK for democrats meaning, WE NEED MORE PEOPLE IN AMERICA THAT AREN'T WHITE and HOPEFULLY VOTE DEM.

 

[bripat9643]

And immigrants (and whomever "leftists" are) are having babies. If my ancestors had not immigrated to the U.S., I wouldn't be here, which holds true for all of us who are not descendants of native peoples. My mother's parents were fresh off the boat (came separately), found each other, got married, got pregnant, and then there was my mother, and then came me after she married an American whose ancestors settled in the U.S. in the 1800's. What are you fighting about? How much do you know of your own background?

WE aren't talking about how things were in your grandmother's time. We're talking about now.

Lyistrata response is exactly the type of response I was talking about earlier. It is even more irrelevant than the example I gave, should just let these idiots open their mouths instead of making the point.

"Immigration is always everywhere good, because my parent's parent's parent's parent was an immigrant. And even though I didn't know him, he was a good guy."

Just brilliant. And now as a result we have his anti-American grand grand daughter, so not exactly the best ending.

And you are marketing your background as "the best." How so? Are you and your family members, currently, the highest achievers in medicine, the sciences, education, the arts, law, politics? Are you and yours good citizens who are working hard and climbing the ladder of success?

Your cheap claim that I am personally unpatriotic does nothing but show your poor character. Please enlighten me as to what your profession is and the standout accomplishments of you and your family.

I picture you as being an ordinary guy, in an ordinary American town, working an ordinary job, and being an ordinary husband and father. This is nothing that would warrant an insult. What does warrant an insult is in trying to assert that you somehow are entitled to more than all of the millions who do the same damned thing, but are different from you in some accident of birth. Should I question your patriotism?

Who are the highest achievers in medicine, the sciences, education, the arts, law who are of Mexican dissent? I didn't include politics because that's like asking who are the highest achievers in making child pornography.

Do developments in certain agricultural products count?

Such as?

 

[Ame®icano]

We are nowhere near “full,” but we certainly don’t need ignorant trash like the OP and worthless squatters like you who hate America.

For over 50 years, those identifying as "conservatives" have been against population control and have actively thwarted every attempt to prevent overpopulation and to maintain the world's population at sustainable levels, both in the U.S. and in other countries, despite the desires of people around the world to limit their fertility. The entire birth-control movement began in the U.S. with people who had had enough babies and wanted to find away to stop them from coming.

This attempt to tie the Democratic Party to increasing population is a sick joke.

Scalia had eight children. He never got "fixed." Duggar? How many is that now? He needs to close up his zipper and close up shop. I'm seeing at least 26 to 28 people out of just two men, both of "conservative political views) and their offspring must occupy housing, create sewage, contribute to the crowding on our roadways, consume plastics, metals, and glass that get shipped off to foreign lands (that are now shipping it back to the western nations that sent it) and generally have the same impact on the environment that everybody else does. Each of them and their partners having two children together would have provided replacements for these four.

Conservatives are having babies.

Leftists are having immigrants.

And immigrants (and whomever "leftists" are) are having babies. If my ancestors had not immigrated to the U.S., I wouldn't be here, which holds true for all of us who are not descendants of native peoples. My mother's parents were fresh off the boat (came separately), found each other, got married, got pregnant, and then there was my mother, and then came me after she married an American whose ancestors settled in the U.S. in the 1800's. What are you fighting about? How much do you know of your own background?

WE aren't talking about how things were in your grandmother's time. We're talking about now.

for good, real Americans?
Who benefits from population expansion?

There are not enough babies being born to replace your current population. American women will not have babies because families can't afford them, they can barely care for themselves because wages are flat. The birth rate is declining.

You cannot maintain your current level of production without workers, and the Baby Boomers are now retiring and leaving the work force, and dying.

So either the general population has to make more babies, or they have to increase immigration, or your population will start to decline and you won't have enough workers to run your economy.

Your country needs workers, but your businesses don't want to pay real wages.

Some industries are already have real problems filling jobs. Like farming and food.

You only need the same number of workers proportionally when you population declines. Japan is managing the problem just fine. If hasn't opened the flood gates to immigration.

Japan is a small island and they don't have any room at all to increase population. They also aren't trying to live in an "endless growth" economy.

Your economy can't grow, if your population declines. And the entire US economy is dependent upon continued economic expansion. For that expansion to continue you need to expand your population.

Declining Labor Force Participation Will Weigh on U.S. GDP Growth--And Fed Monetary Policy

Interesting that you say "Well Japan is managing to do this". The USA is NOT Japan. They have a large government and a compliant population. They don't have a "cowboy economy". Their government tightly regulates everything. All of the things that Republicans will oppose to their dying breath.

So no, you can't do what Japan did. All this debt and deficit you've accumulated, needs and expanding economy to continue fund your government and pay down that debt.

Breed or die.

"Your economy can't grow, if your population declines?" Now that is genius!

How about "if water wasn't wet then it wouldn't be water?" or "if a bicycle was a fish then it wouldn't be a bicycle?"

The entire forum thanks you for these gems of wisdom.

There wouldn't be need for immigration or for economical expansion if there are no endless social programs set as ponzi schemes that constantly require new revenue.

 

[bripat9643]

After the "death spiral" Japan will still be Japan.

After our immigration plan America will no longer be America, which is of course what you want.

Will it?

hey funny thing, a Modern Japanese would probably find Pre-war Japan a pretty alien place...

Now, some SHITSTAIN like you made the same kinds of complaints about how "America wouldn't be America" with the Irish 150 years ago, the Germans 100 years ago, the Poles 50 years ago. Now you are going on and on about how we "won't be America"

We not only turned out fine, we actually became a better place for it.

Modern Japan ....doesn't allow any immigration.

Wrong

It allows a minute amount, which is the same thing, for all intents and purposes.

....

​

In other words, you lied. You are also ignorant of the fact that relatively recent legislation has been passed to increase immigration in light of the dire population crisis facing the country, dumbass.

What legislation?

 

[Norman]

Have you looked at the filthy Dem run garbage, pollution, sewage spewing cities where Dems pack em in like sardines? You people are a cancer tumor on the planet. You don't damage the environment, you obliterate it with concrete and blacktop. You spill hundreds of millions of gallons of raw untreated sewage into public waterways.

tell that to donny who wants to build his wall where wildlife will be harmed, across private property & how he's rolling EPA regs back to pre nixon days.

The democrat ideas of free health care for illegals and open borders...

mix like beer and milk.

As long as the mixture votes demtrash, they couldn't care less.

Democrats are the party of trash.

Democrats are now coming to learn that their issue is that they are not listening to the people.

They are trying their best to find a way to look like they are listening to the people.

 

[Unkotare]

for good, real Americans?
Who benefits from population expansion?

There are not enough babies being born to replace your current population. American women will not have babies because families can't afford them, they can barely care for themselves because wages are flat. The birth rate is declining.

You cannot maintain your current level of production without workers, and the Baby Boomers are now retiring and leaving the work force, and dying.

So either the general population has to make more babies, or they have to increase immigration, or your population will start to decline and you won't have enough workers to run your economy.

Your country needs workers, but your businesses don't want to pay real wages.

Some industries are already have real problems filling jobs. Like farming and food.

You only need the same number of workers proportionally when you population declines. Japan is managing the problem just fine. If hasn't opened the flood gates to immigration.

for good, real Americans?
Who benefits from population expansion?

There are not enough babies being born to replace your current population. American women will not have babies because families can't afford them, they can barely care for themselves because wages are flat. The birth rate is declining.

You cannot maintain your current level of production without workers, and the Baby Boomers are now retiring and leaving the work force, and dying.

So either the general population has to make more babies, or they have to increase immigration, or your population will start to decline and you won't have enough workers to run your economy.

Your country needs workers, but your businesses don't want to pay real wages.

Some industries are already have real problems filling jobs. Like farming and food.

....Japan is managing the problem just fine. ....

No they are not, dumbass, and Japan has already recognized the need to increase immigration. Stop being such an ignorant fool.

So far they allow zero immigration. When they actually change their police, then you might have a point. Politicians talking isn't the same was what the people believe.

... And Japan isn't that great a place to live from the standpoint of personal freedoms or equality for all.

..."Doing your own thing" is totally discouraged. Worker bees keep their heads down and work ...

The entire population has a culture that requires them to take care of one another. Does this sound like America? Are YOU prepared to work 6 days week?

This ^^^ is also ignorant bullshit.

 

[bripat9643]

After the "death spiral" Japan will still be Japan.

After our immigration plan America will no longer be America, which is of course what you want.

Will it?

hey funny thing, a Modern Japanese would probably find Pre-war Japan a pretty alien place...

Now, some SHITSTAIN like you made the same kinds of complaints about how "America wouldn't be America" with the Irish 150 years ago, the Germans 100 years ago, the Poles 50 years ago. Now you are going on and on about how we "won't be America"

We not only turned out fine, we actually became a better place for it.

Modern Japan ....doesn't allow any immigration.

Wrong

It allows a minute amount, which is the same thing, for all intents and purposes.

....

​

In other words, you lied. You are also ignorant of the fact that relatively recent legislation has been passed to increase immigration in light of the dire population crisis facing the country, dumbass.

Immigration to Japan - Wikipedia​

Naturalisation
In 2015 9,469 applications for Japanese citizenship were approved. The number of foreign residents in Japan applying to naturalize and obtain Japanese citizenship peaked in 2008 at more than 16,000, but declined to 12,442 in 2015. Processing of applications can take up to 18 months. Application criteria are set deliberately high and inspectors are granted a degree of discretion in interpretation of eligibility and good conduct criteria.[31]​

 

[BrokeLoser]

Will it?

hey funny thing, a Modern Japanese would probably find Pre-war Japan a pretty alien place...

Now, some SHITSTAIN like you made the same kinds of complaints about how "America wouldn't be America" with the Irish 150 years ago, the Germans 100 years ago, the Poles 50 years ago. Now you are going on and on about how we "won't be America"

We not only turned out fine, we actually became a better place for it.

Modern Japan ....doesn't allow any immigration.

Wrong

It allows a minute amount, which is the same thing, for all intents and purposes.

....

​

In other words, you lied. You are also ignorant of the fact that relatively recent legislation has been passed to increase immigration in light of the dire population crisis facing the country, dumbass.

Immigration to Japan - Wikipedia​

Naturalisation
In 2015 9,469 applications for Japanese citizenship were approved. The number of foreign residents in Japan applying to naturalize and obtain Japanese citizenship peaked in 2008 at more than 16,000, but declined to 12,442 in 2015. Processing of applications can take up to 18 months. Application criteria are set deliberately high and inspectors are granted a degree of discretion in interpretation of eligibility and good conduct criteria.[31]​

I wonder how many of those 16K in 2008 and 12,442 in 2015 were from Mexico, Central and South America?
Would the uber intelligent Japanese grant citizenship to thirdworlders....why or why not Unkotare

 

[bripat9643]

Modern Japan ....doesn't allow any immigration.

Wrong

It allows a minute amount, which is the same thing, for all intents and purposes.

....

​

In other words, you lied. You are also ignorant of the fact that relatively recent legislation has been passed to increase immigration in light of the dire population crisis facing the country, dumbass.

Immigration to Japan - Wikipedia​

Naturalisation
In 2015 9,469 applications for Japanese citizenship were approved. The number of foreign residents in Japan applying to naturalize and obtain Japanese citizenship peaked in 2008 at more than 16,000, but declined to 12,442 in 2015. Processing of applications can take up to 18 months. Application criteria are set deliberately high and inspectors are granted a degree of discretion in interpretation of eligibility and good conduct criteria.[31]​

I wonder how many of those 16K in 2008 and 12,442 in 2015 were from Mexico, Central and South America?
Would the uber intelligent Japanese grant citizenship to thirdworlders....why or why not Unkotare

They are mostly Europeans, Americans and Chinese. There used to a significant number of Koreans, but I think those numbers have been declining in recent years.

 

[007]

Modern Japan ....doesn't allow any immigration.

Wrong

It allows a minute amount, which is the same thing, for all intents and purposes.

....

​

In other words, you lied. You are also ignorant of the fact that relatively recent legislation has been passed to increase immigration in light of the dire population crisis facing the country, dumbass.

Immigration to Japan - Wikipedia​

Naturalisation
In 2015 9,469 applications for Japanese citizenship were approved. The number of foreign residents in Japan applying to naturalize and obtain Japanese citizenship peaked in 2008 at more than 16,000, but declined to 12,442 in 2015. Processing of applications can take up to 18 months. Application criteria are set deliberately high and inspectors are granted a degree of discretion in interpretation of eligibility and good conduct criteria.[31]​

I wonder how many of those 16K in 2008 and 12,442 in 2015 were from Mexico, Central and South America?
Would the uber intelligent Japanese grant citizenship to thirdworlders....why or why not Unkotare

Or muslims. I wonder how the Japs would feel about one of their rulers FORCING a couple hundred thousand muslims on them like obama did to America?

 

[JoeB131]

Yes Japan will absolutely be Japan.

Now if they followed your advice and imported a bunch of Africans, they would be a craphole in decades possibly containing no Japanese people. Same as your plan with the West.

Wow... your racism is fun to read...

Japan's xenophobia is killing it.

 

[JoeB131]

Since our ancestors came to the U.S. INVITED, welcomed and vetted at Ellis, ready to pave their own paths and PAY their own way under no welfare mandate where others were FORCED to pay for their fuck-ups....Are you saying we should always feel obligated to take in all who make it here?
I thought you Regressives hate 'old times' and how America used to work?

Uh, why do you think the undocumented are here? Because someone invited them to do a job because they knew your White Trash as wouldn't work very hard.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

for good, real Americans?
Who benefits from population expansion?

WTF?
Derp......
U.S. Population Growth In 2019 Is Slowest In A Century

 

[BrokeLoser]

Wrong

It allows a minute amount, which is the same thing, for all intents and purposes.

....

​

In other words, you lied. You are also ignorant of the fact that relatively recent legislation has been passed to increase immigration in light of the dire population crisis facing the country, dumbass.

Immigration to Japan - Wikipedia​

Naturalisation
In 2015 9,469 applications for Japanese citizenship were approved. The number of foreign residents in Japan applying to naturalize and obtain Japanese citizenship peaked in 2008 at more than 16,000, but declined to 12,442 in 2015. Processing of applications can take up to 18 months. Application criteria are set deliberately high and inspectors are granted a degree of discretion in interpretation of eligibility and good conduct criteria.[31]​

I wonder how many of those 16K in 2008 and 12,442 in 2015 were from Mexico, Central and South America?
Would the uber intelligent Japanese grant citizenship to thirdworlders....why or why not Unkotare

They are mostly Europeans, Americans and Chinese. There used to a significant number of Koreans, but I think those numbers have been declining in recent years.

Hmmm...weird, I wonder if they are smart enough and not PC enough to realize that the people of Japan should not be burdened by human liabilities?

 

[bripat9643]

Yes Japan will absolutely be Japan.

Now if they followed your advice and imported a bunch of Africans, they would be a craphole in decades possibly containing no Japanese people. Same as your plan with the West.

Wow... your racism is fun to read...

Japan's xenophobia is killing it.

how is it "killing" it? Japan is still a pleasant place to live, unlike states in American that have imported millions of people from Mexico.

 

[bripat9643]

Since our ancestors came to the U.S. INVITED, welcomed and vetted at Ellis, ready to pave their own paths and PAY their own way under no welfare mandate where others were FORCED to pay for their fuck-ups....Are you saying we should always feel obligated to take in all who make it here?
I thought you Regressives hate 'old times' and how America used to work?

Uh, why do you think the undocumented are here? Because someone invited them to do a job because they knew your White Trash as wouldn't work very hard.

So? Why should anyone care about what the traitors who invited them in want?

 

[bripat9643]

for good, real Americans?
Who benefits from population expansion?

WTF?
Derp......
U.S. Population Growth In 2019 Is Slowest In A Century

So?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Since our ancestors came to the U.S. INVITED, welcomed and vetted at Ellis, ready to pave their own paths and PAY their own way under no welfare mandate where others were FORCED to pay for their fuck-ups....Are you saying we should always feel obligated to take in all who make it here?
I thought you Regressives hate 'old times' and how America used to work?

Uh, why do you think the undocumented are here? Because someone invited them to do a job because they knew your White Trash as wouldn't work very hard.

Are you referring to the high earning "white trash" depicted in this chart?

 

[Lysistrata]

We are nowhere near “full,” but we certainly don’t need ignorant trash like the OP and worthless squatters like you who hate America.

For over 50 years, those identifying as "conservatives" have been against population control and have actively thwarted every attempt to prevent overpopulation and to maintain the world's population at sustainable levels, both in the U.S. and in other countries, despite the desires of people around the world to limit their fertility. The entire birth-control movement began in the U.S. with people who had had enough babies and wanted to find away to stop them from coming.

This attempt to tie the Democratic Party to increasing population is a sick joke.

Scalia had eight children. He never got "fixed." Duggar? How many is that now? He needs to close up his zipper and close up shop. I'm seeing at least 26 to 28 people out of just two men, both of "conservative political views) and their offspring must occupy housing, create sewage, contribute to the crowding on our roadways, consume plastics, metals, and glass that get shipped off to foreign lands (that are now shipping it back to the western nations that sent it) and generally have the same impact on the environment that everybody else does. Each of them and their partners having two children together would have provided replacements for these four.

Conservatives are having babies.

Leftists are having immigrants.

And immigrants (and whomever "leftists" are) are having babies. If my ancestors had not immigrated to the U.S., I wouldn't be here, which holds true for all of us who are not descendants of native peoples. My mother's parents were fresh off the boat (came separately), found each other, got married, got pregnant, and then there was my mother, and then came me after she married an American whose ancestors settled in the U.S. in the 1800's. What are you fighting about? How much do you know of your own background?

WE aren't talking about how things were in your grandmother's time. We're talking about now.

Yes. We are. But what is your point?

Why are you bringing up your mother and grandmother? They are irrelevant.

They are far from irrelevant (all of my Nana's children were part of the war effort in WWII, some in battle).Their story, and my story, illustrates how immigration works and the process by which folks from many nations join together to form the American People, which you apparently do not respect. I speak of E pluribus unum. Unless you are a Native American, your ancestors went through the same process. Perhaps you should go back to the land of your ancestors, since you don't want to be part of our loving, raucous crowd of Americans.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

for good, real Americans?
Who benefits from population expansion?

WTF?
Derp......
U.S. Population Growth In 2019 Is Slowest In A Century

So?

So.....There is no such thing, dope.