Is it really "illegal?"

[BuddyColt]

After 360 posts this thread has gone nowhere beyond the first four postings . If most of you notice, the National Socialists among us have spent hundreds of posts trying to win an argument via the repetition of a lie.

For those who might be here, watching this circus unfold, if you doubt what I said is true, pick up the phone and call any immigration lawyer. Ask them if the disputed statute is civil law or criminal law and whether an IMPROPER ENTRY is a crime.

Despite the best efforts of my critics, they have not come up with one, single, solitary case wherein improper entry equals a crime. Their cited cases were either overturned, were about eluding the authorities (a crime under Title 18) or something along those lines. I have quoted the highest ranking immigration officials in the United States along with cases and proposed legislation testifying against them.

Finally note this:

The National Socialists here have no original ideas of their own. They wait for people like me to present the research and then they suddenly become an expert on the topic, Googling words they find within our research. In short, they don't have anything except an ability to keep repeating the same B.S. over and over.

The straw that broke the camel's back is when that dumb ass came here and misquoted an economist and gave someone else credit for it. I corrected the quote and gave him the correct author and suddenly this guy becomes an expert on Milton Friedman... someone this guy had obviously never heard of before. I know because I study Friedman and apply a lot of his principles in my own life.

This place is a joke and the nazis here are DANGEROUS. LIE Ability and his cheering squad though don't have the balls that the big boys have, but they may very well inspire the next J.T. Ready. If you don't know what I'm talking about, read the first four postings on this thread.

 

[Unkotare]

Liberty means you can cross the border into North Korea?
You're an idiot. Send me a postcard from North Korea. LOL!

The harder trick is crossing the border OUT of North Korea.

If your wish comes true, that will be true about America too.

NO, you dishonest fuck.

 

[BuddyColt]

The harder trick is crossing the border OUT of North Korea.

If your wish comes true, that will be true about America too.

NO, you dishonest fuck.

You're the pot what calls the kettle black. YOU are the liar. You're a scumbag, nazi loving, dick licking, piece of scatalogical waste whose only claim to fame is being able to snow people of a low IQ that live on this discussion board.

Well, I have a real client with a real problem, so I'm off to do the work you wish you knew how to do, but simply weren't smart enough to do.

You can feed the people here all the bullshit you want, but you would NEVER say to my face what you've put on this board. The fact is, you beat your meat while sitting at the computer, fucking with people because that is how you receive your sexual gratification - knowing you can screw with people from afar.

I trust in God enough that one day your luck will run out. I'd love to be the one that found who you are and where you are. I'd like to see you call people names to their face.

 

[High_Gravity]

If your wish comes true, that will be true about America too.

NO, you dishonest fuck.

You're the pot what calls the kettle black. YOU are the liar. You're a scumbag, nazi loving, dick licking, piece of scatalogical waste whose only claim to fame is being able to snow people of a low IQ that live on this discussion board.

Well, I have a real client with a real problem, so I'm off to do the work you wish you knew how to do, but simply weren't smart enough to do.

You can feed the people here all the bullshit you want, but you would NEVER say to my face what you've put on this board. The fact is, you beat your meat while sitting at the computer, fucking with people because that is how you receive your sexual gratification - knowing you can screw with people from afar.

I trust in God enough that one day your luck will run out. I'd love to be the one that found who you are and where you are. I'd like to see you call people names to their face.

The only dishonest ass licking cock sucking faggot coward I see here is you, have fun cleaning the rest rooms at KFC you little biattch.

 

[Unkotare]

You can feed the people here all the bullshit you want, but you would NEVER say to my face what you've put on this board. I trust in God enough that one day your luck will run out. I'd love to be the one that found who you are and where you are. I'd like to see you call people names to their face.

You gonna do all this again, tough-guy? This is where I tell you to say what you want to say, and even make whatever plans for your AARP frequent flier miles you want to make, and then you clam up and run away only to come back and repeat your empty performance all over again. Come on tough-guy, show some backbone or show some character.

 

[Unkotare]

This place is a joke and the nazis here are DANGEROUS.

There's about all you need to know about this little fucking open borders drama queen...

 

[High_Gravity]

This place is a joke and the nazis here are DANGEROUS.

There's about all you need to know about this little fucking open borders drama queen...

I love it when that bitch buddycolt gets unraveled and starts threatening people, what a big man he is.

 

[High_Gravity]

You can feed the people here all the bullshit you want, but you would NEVER say to my face what you've put on this board. I trust in God enough that one day your luck will run out. I'd love to be the one that found who you are and where you are. I'd like to see you call people names to their face.

You gonna do all this again, tough-guy? This is where I tell you to say what you want to say, and even make whatever plans for your AARP frequent flier miles you want to make, and then you clam up and run away only to come back and repeat your empty performance all over again. Come on tough-guy, show some backbone or show some character.

You are asking too much from her.

 

[Unkotare]

I know, but she makes such a big show and then slinks away on her belly again and again...

 

[hortysir]

Spoken like a true Nazi. You know, LIE Ability, if you say it enough times, it might be accepted as true, just as your leader, Adolph Hitler, taught you. Seig freaking Heil motherfucker.

Improper entry is not a crime except in a National Socialist utopia led by Lie Ability and those with a low enough IQ to buy into his endless posts. You can't do one post, make your points and STFU can you? You know you're wrong, but telling the lie over and over might..... It won't Lie Ability. You will lose in the end. You will lose.[/QUOTE]


So Obama is King Poo-Pah of a National Socialist state?

Who knew?

The Obama administration deported a record number of illegal immigrants for the third straight year, according to figures released Tuesday by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Despite facing criticism from both sides of the political spectrum, officials promised to continue the White House policy of prioritizing for removal those illegal immigrants with criminal convictions.

 

[High_Gravity]

Spoken like a true Nazi. You know, LIE Ability, if you say it enough times, it might be accepted as true, just as your leader, Adolph Hitler, taught you. Seig freaking Heil motherfucker.

Improper entry is not a crime except in a National Socialist utopia led by Lie Ability and those with a low enough IQ to buy into his endless posts. You can't do one post, make your points and STFU can you? You know you're wrong, but telling the lie over and over might..... It won't Lie Ability. You will lose in the end. You will lose.

So Obama is King Poo-Pah of a National Socialist state?

Who knew?

The Obama administration deported a record number of illegal immigrants for the third straight year, according to figures released Tuesday by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Despite facing criticism from both sides of the political spectrum, officials promised to continue the White House policy of prioritizing for removal those illegal immigrants with criminal convictions.

[/QUOTE]

The Obama admin forgot to send bitchcolt back to his loved ones in Guatamala.

 

[Katzndogz]

It is only hisipanics, chiefly mexicans that don't consider coming here illegally a crime FOR THEM. mexicans are quite vocal about illegal immigration by the Chinese or the Irish (believe it or not, we have lots of illegal aliens who are Irish). mexicans don't want Russians here, or Asians or anyone from the middle east. They know what illegal immigration is. They just don't believe it applies to them and neither do liberals. It's become a matter of race only as applied to hispanics.

mexicans particularly, but not exclusively as other central and south Americans feel the same way, feel that there should never have been a southern border. It is still their country, the entire continent is one borderless region. WIthout national borders, there are only racial and ethnic differences. Libs have acquired this infection as well.

 

[High_Gravity]

It is only hisipanics, chiefly mexicans that don't consider coming here illegally a crime FOR THEM. mexicans are quite vocal about illegal immigration by the Chinese or the Irish (believe it or not, we have lots of illegal aliens who are Irish). mexicans don't want Russians here, or Asians or anyone from the middle east. They know what illegal immigration is. They just don't believe it applies to them and neither do liberals. It's become a matter of race only as applied to hispanics.

mexicans particularly, but not exclusively as other central and south Americans feel the same way, feel that there should never have been a southern border. It is still their country, the entire continent is one borderless region. WIthout national borders, there are only racial and ethnic differences. Libs have acquired this infection as well.

I believe you, you can see that bitch buddycolt making racist comments about Blacks, he only wants open borders because most of the illegals are Hispanic like him. If the illegals were mainly Black Africans or Haitians he would want them all rounded up in cattle carts and deported right away.

 

[Liability]

There is not now and never has been ANY unalienable "right" [sic] to enter the land of any other country without the permission and authority of the country being entered.

In time of war, the act is known as an "invasion."

In time of peace, it's known as "improper entry," which IS a "crime" despite the false denials of the dishonest "open borders" idiot, DuddyDolt.

Todd is right. Dudley is lying. That's the true state of facts, and it isn't changing.

Spoken like a true Nazi. You know, LIE Ability, if you say it enough times, it might be accepted as true, just as your leader, Adolph Hitler, taught you. Seig freaking Heil motherfucker.

Improper entry is not a crime except in a National Socialist utopia led by Lie Ability and those with a low enough IQ to buy into his endless posts. You can't do one post, make your points and STFU can you? You know you're wrong, but telling the lie over and over might..... It won't Lie Ability. You will lose in the end. You will lose.

Except, of course, DummyDolt is simply lying. It has already been proved --beyond any doubt -- that it is a crime. That's why so many folks have gotten criminally prosecuted for it and gotten the HALLMARK of a criminal statute -- a jail or prison sentence.

Everyone WITH a functioning brain and ANY honesty sees clearly that it IS a crime.

It is crystal clear.

Why DummyDolt and his cadre of open-borders fantasy playahs want to claim otherwise is kind of amusing. But still: your lie is fully exposed, DummyDolt.

III. DISCUSSION
This case requires us to reconcile the well-established
requirement that each count against a defendant in an information
or indictment must sufficiently levy the charge in and
of itself and thus stand on its own, with the Almendarez-Torres4

2United States v. Carranza, 289 F.3d 634, 642 (9th Cir. 2002).
3United States v. Fleming, 215 F.3d 930, 935 (9th Cir. 2000).
4Almendarez-Torres v. United States, 523 U.S. 224 (1998).

exception to Apprendi,5 which holds that a prior offense may
be used to increase a defendant’s sentence even if the Government’s
pleading omitted it. We conclude that when, as in this
case, the earlier offense operates not merely to increase a
defendant’s sentence, but to transform his second offense
from a misdemeanor to a felony, Almendarez-Torres does not
apply. * * * *

UNITED STATES v. RODRIGUEZ-GONZALES,

http://archive.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/02D4AFF4C030C5EB88256E3E007A7ACC/$file/0250594.pdf?openelement

DummyDolt pretends he knows more about what is and isn't a crime than the government prosecutors and the federal judges who impose sentence.

 

[starcraftzzz]

The harder trick is crossing the border OUT of North Korea.

If your wish comes true, that will be true about America too.

NO, you dishonest fuck.

I wouldn’t not all you dishonest because you are too stupid to know what the truth is

 

[High_Gravity]

Spoken like a true Nazi. You know, LIE Ability, if you say it enough times, it might be accepted as true, just as your leader, Adolph Hitler, taught you. Seig freaking Heil motherfucker.

Improper entry is not a crime except in a National Socialist utopia led by Lie Ability and those with a low enough IQ to buy into his endless posts. You can't do one post, make your points and STFU can you? You know you're wrong, but telling the lie over and over might..... It won't Lie Ability. You will lose in the end. You will lose.

Except, of course, DummyDolt is simply lying. It has already been proved --beyond any doubt -- that it is a crime. That's why so many folks have gotten criminally prosecuted for it and gotten the HALLMARK of a criminal statute -- a jail or prison sentence.

Everyone WITH a functioning brain and ANY honesty sees clearly that it IS a crime.

It is crystal clear.

Why DummyDolt and his cadre of open-borders fantasy playahs want to claim otherwise is kind of amusing. But still: your lie is fully exposed, DummyDolt.

III. DISCUSSION
This case requires us to reconcile the well-established
requirement that each count against a defendant in an information
or indictment must sufficiently levy the charge in and
of itself and thus stand on its own, with the Almendarez-Torres4

2United States v. Carranza, 289 F.3d 634, 642 (9th Cir. 2002).
3United States v. Fleming, 215 F.3d 930, 935 (9th Cir. 2000).
4Almendarez-Torres v. United States, 523 U.S. 224 (1998).

exception to Apprendi,5 which holds that a prior offense may
be used to increase a defendant’s sentence even if the Government’s
pleading omitted it. We conclude that when, as in this
case, the earlier offense operates not merely to increase a
defendant’s sentence, but to transform his second offense
from a misdemeanor to a felony, Almendarez-Torres does not
apply. * * * *

UNITED STATES v. RODRIGUEZ-GONZALES,

http://archive.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/02D4AFF4C030C5EB88256E3E007A7ACC/$file/0250594.pdf?openelement

DummyDolt pretends he knows more about what is and isn't a crime than the government prosecutors and hte federal judges who impose sentence.

Anyone with an IQ level above a house plant knows it is illegal and it is a crime, period.

 

[Unkotare]

If your wish comes true, that will be true about America too.

NO, you dishonest fuck.

I wouldn’t not all you dishonest because you are too stupid to know what the truth is

When you can manage to put together a coherent, grammatical sentence you can start calling anyone else stupid. Until then, shut the fuck up.

 

[Catalist]

Living in a State with some of the most porous borders in the nation we hear a lot of things. Even Google does not seem to accurately reflect what is going on with illegal immigration.

It is my understanding that enforcement of immigration laws and the 14th Amendment are not as important to immigration as one might think. I am informed that false citizenship documents are a felony, and offer law enforcement greater ease in incarcerating and deporting illegals. Why get bogged down in red tape? Squeeze granny out, and you get the whole family out. That is what we see in the news down here.

I for one find the poking around of both political parties and Washington D. C. to be a complete waste of time. We have all these people in airports taking off their shoes and belts to get on an airplane, when you could drive ten red semi trucks across the border into New Mexico and no one would even notice. The corruption on both sides of the border, the drug problem, and the drug cartels make the whole thing a joke.

 

[BuddyColt]

Living in a State with some of the most porous borders in the nation we hear a lot of things. Even Google does not seem to accurately reflect what is going on with illegal immigration.

It is my understanding that enforcement of immigration laws and the 14th Amendment are not as important to immigration as one might think. I am informed that false citizenship documents are a felony, and offer law enforcement greater ease in incarcerating and deporting illegals. Why get bogged down in red tape? Squeeze granny out, and you get the whole family out. That is what we see in the news down here.

I for one find the poking around of both political parties and Washington D. C. to be a complete waste of time. We have all these people in airports taking off their shoes and belts to get on an airplane, when you could drive ten red semi trucks across the border into New Mexico and no one would even notice. The corruption on both sides of the border, the drug problem, and the drug cartels make the whole thing a joke.

Once you understand the problem, you're closer to a solution.

According to the Chief Actuary for the Socialist Security Administration, about 75 percent of the people in the U.S. get a Taxpayer Identification Number and enlist in the unconstitutional income tax scheme. Well, now a lot of folks are bitching because the Hispanics claim a lot of dependents. Then we find out half of AMERICANS don't pay income tax... Solution? Get rid of the income tax.

People are all over the border because of the drugs. It's a supply and demand issue. America will have to either resort to the death penalty for major suppliers and even a joint will have to net you a seven year stint in prison. NWIH (NO Way In Hell)...

Solution? Legalize and tax drugs. When the Mexican cartels have to compete with the government of Mexico, the border patrols will double and, since people can buy legally, no more back door deals. No more border problem over the drugs.

BTW, Entering and being in the United States is NOT a crime. Yes, do it repeatedly and you end up with a felony charge... but DUI is a misdemeanor. These dumb asses on this board may as well try and convince you a DUI is a felony. It can be if you do it enough times. What we're talking about are people that come here, get a TIN and do the same things that everybody else does.

The crap about National Sovereignty does not apply. National Sovereignty is power only to protect America. It does not extend to the unalienable Rights of individuals. IF you did not have people in America willing to engage in legal business pursuits with the foreigners, you might be able to make a case for invasion, etc. But, you can't. Our founding fathers never intended the government to prohibit immigration nor stifle free trade. We have to focus on getting rid of GATT, NAFTA, the DHS, and cut all the welfare agencies in half. You have to get rid of an over-sized government and stimulate growth. You need a Guest Worker program with NO automatic path to citizenship and then begin lowering taxes.

The race war will not stimulate growth. All it's doing is giving the government a pretext for growing bigger and bigger, taking our Liberties with it as it devours us.

 

[Unkotare]

What "race war," idiot? Do you think a straw man will help you with your little lefty fantasy of open borders? It won't.