Is it time for Universal Healthcare....and can it be done?

[JGalt]

70% is high but socialist-leaning countries still have higher than average tax rates. We seriously don't deserve to be as screwed up as they are...

Top Ten Countries With Highest Tax Rates - Financesonline.com

And they are all much happier than we are..
And many more too....

Is this like some opinion you have based on your hatred for America, or have you actually lived in any of those countries?

Google happiest countries, moron, and try watching and and reading real news someday, super duper...

Then move there Franky. We want you to be happy

-Geaux

What a GOP fool you are... You can't move anywhere unless you're a millionaire, doctor, or married to a foreigner, or have a job waiting for you... Now why does our country suck so bad? Answer: scumbag GOP and stupid doops like you.
.

You're a funny person. But I'd have to disagree with you there: It's not "our country" anymore.

We President now, you'uns done lost.

 

[WillowTree]

Are you aware that the people on Medicare paid into the system for 20-30 years before they ever drew a nickels worth of care?

And, those paying into Medicare are compelled by force of government, given no other choice?

Nope! If you opt out of Medicare they will take your social security too! Medicare! You pay 30 years before drawing a dime, you pay monthly premiums, you pay deductibles you pay co pays! You think it’s cheap?

Not even! Yet, it is repeatedly cited as a model for UHC. Many people confuse Medicare with Medicaid, though.

That’s because they are morons. Medicaid is a freebie! Medicare is paid for by working Americans! And the Democrats stoke 960 Billion dollars from it!

You are not too bright. You keep throwing out 960 billion even though you have been proven wrong. I am sorry for you.

Eat shit and die Debbie Downer!

 

[Norman]

That's only one country and the U.S. played a large part in why they collapsed. Almost their entire government is financed off of oil... which is a horrible thing to do. You have to be more diversified. Because their whole economy relies so much on oil, when a large country like the U.S. ramps up oil production and drives the price of oil down, it absolutely devastates a country like Venezuela to the point they can't recover. I'm sure it was done on purpose after what the ex-president of Venezuela said about the U.S. He was one of the leaders that repeated that the U.S. has a HAARP weather making machine that can destroy countries and that they tested it in Haiti making the earthquake there.

Was Hugo Chavez Right About HAARP & The HAITI Earthquake? Is Weather Even Natural Anymore?

Here: I'll feed your paranoia...

H.A.A.R.P weather control

These idiots will use any excuse, no matter how silly, in order to defend their mistaken world view.

Democrats have a small percentage of conspiracy nut jobs. The brainwashed GOP/Fox Etc party has a majority LOL.

I have never seen anyone else here pull up the HAARP.

Even though, compared to the Russian conspiracy theory, that seems like a beacon of sane. Guy's an amateur compared to a seasoned veteran like yourself.

Really? Because a simple search of HAARP shows 39 search results.

Well, unlike you, I don't visit or search the conspiracy forum. Is there even such a thing? I don't care to find out. Apparently your routine consists of searching for posts related to HAARP, what is it with these lefties and their crazy conspiracies?

 

[debbiedowner]

And, those paying into Medicare are compelled by force of government, given no other choice?

Nope! If you opt out of Medicare they will take your social security too! Medicare! You pay 30 years before drawing a dime, you pay monthly premiums, you pay deductibles you pay co pays! You think it’s cheap?

Not even! Yet, it is repeatedly cited as a model for UHC. Many people confuse Medicare with Medicaid, though.

That’s because they are morons. Medicaid is a freebie! Medicare is paid for by working Americans! And the Democrats stoke 960 Billion dollars from it!

You are not too bright. You keep throwing out 960 billion even though you have been proven wrong. I am sorry for you.

Eat shit and die Debbie Downer!

What's the problem willowtree your trunk been pissed on by too many animals? BTW you still can't prove a thing.

 

[Lewdog]

Here: I'll feed your paranoia...

H.A.A.R.P weather control

These idiots will use any excuse, no matter how silly, in order to defend their mistaken world view.

Democrats have a small percentage of conspiracy nut jobs. The brainwashed GOP/Fox Etc party has a majority LOL.

I have never seen anyone else here pull up the HAARP.

Even though, compared to the Russian conspiracy theory, that seems like a beacon of sane. Guy's an amateur compared to a seasoned veteran like yourself.

Really? Because a simple search of HAARP shows 39 search results.

Well, unlike you, I don't visit or search the conspiracy forum. Is there even such a thing? I don't care to find out, but apparently your routine consists of searching for posts related to HAARP.

All it takes it to put HAARP in the search box on ANY screen. Is using a search engine too complicated for you?

 

[WillowTree]

Nope! If you opt out of Medicare they will take your social security too! Medicare! You pay 30 years before drawing a dime, you pay monthly premiums, you pay deductibles you pay co pays! You think it’s cheap?

Not even! Yet, it is repeatedly cited as a model for UHC. Many people confuse Medicare with Medicaid, though.

That’s because they are morons. Medicaid is a freebie! Medicare is paid for by working Americans! And the Democrats stoke 960 Billion dollars from it!

You are not too bright. You keep throwing out 960 billion even though you have been proven wrong. I am sorry for you.

Eat shit and die Debbie Downer!

What's the problem willowtree your trunk been pissed on by too many animals? BTW you still can't prove a thing.

Well, probably not to a hack like you! You brainless pos!

 

[JGalt]

70% is high but socialist-leaning countries still have higher than average tax rates. We seriously don't deserve to be as screwed up as they are...

Top Ten Countries With Highest Tax Rates - Financesonline.com

And they are all much happier than we are..
And many more too....

Is this like some opinion you have based on your hatred for America, or have you actually lived in any of those countries?

Google happiest countries, moron, and try watching and and reading real news someday, super duper...

"Google"? Really?

There's your fallacy: Getting faulty information from a leftists website. You might as well be relying on late-night comedians for you political advice.

What's that? You do rely on late-night comedians for your political advice?

Dumbass. Do you not even have a clue as to how much of a fuckin' hillbilly you really are? Relying on late-night comedians for you political advice is the liberal equivalent of "Hold my beer and watch this!...."

Not going to turn out like you expected but much hilarity for any spectators, ya dumbass.

Funny how every respected media around the world agrees with us and all you have is Fox Rush Etc, all paid for by greedy idiot lying thieving GOP billionaires and silly dupes like you....

How is your "respected " media supposedly "respected"? Aside from you hive-mind non-thinkers whose idea of a head is a "hat rack", I have no respect for liars.

 

[Norman]

These idiots will use any excuse, no matter how silly, in order to defend their mistaken world view.

Democrats have a small percentage of conspiracy nut jobs. The brainwashed GOP/Fox Etc party has a majority LOL.

I have never seen anyone else here pull up the HAARP.

Even though, compared to the Russian conspiracy theory, that seems like a beacon of sane. Guy's an amateur compared to a seasoned veteran like yourself.

Really? Because a simple search of HAARP shows 39 search results.

Well, unlike you, I don't visit or search the conspiracy forum. Is there even such a thing? I don't care to find out, but apparently your routine consists of searching for posts related to HAARP.

All it takes it to put HAARP in the search box on ANY screen. Is using a search engine too complicated for you?

No, all it takes is a low IQ moron brain to search for stuff that no one with more than one neuron is interested about.

But keep searching. I am sure you will find many very high quality posts. There probably is a reason why this was my first time encountering the nonsense while you are bathing in it. Russia conspiracy next...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Please provide a few examples.

70% is high but socialist-leaning countries still have higher than average tax rates. We seriously don't deserve to be as screwed up as they are...

Top Ten Countries With Highest Tax Rates - Financesonline.com

And they are all much happier than we are..
And many more too....

Is this like some opinion you have based on your hatred for America, or have you actually lived in any of those countries?

Google happiest countries, moron, and try watching and and reading real news someday, super duper...

"Google"? Really?

There's your fallacy: Getting faulty information from a leftists website. You might as well be relying on late-night comedians for you political advice.

What's that? You do rely on late-night comedians for your political advice?

Dumbass. Do you not even have a clue as to how much of a fuckin' hillbilly you really are? Relying on late-night comedians for you political advice is the liberal equivalent of "Hold my beer and watch this!...."

Not going to turn out like you expected but much hilarity for any spectators, ya dumbass.

So, what do you use to search the internet? You have to use some sort of search program or site.

 

[JGalt]

It's way past the time when this anti-American idiot was supposed to exit the great country.

Remember, the Venezuelan paradise is just one plane ticket away. Free care for all! You might get the eal treatment, but hey, it's free!

So tired of these traitors.

That's only one country and the U.S. played a large part in why they collapsed. Almost their entire government is financed off of oil... which is a horrible thing to do. You have to be more diversified. Because their whole economy relies so much on oil, when a large country like the U.S. ramps up oil production and drives the price of oil down, it absolutely devastates a country like Venezuela to the point they can't recover. I'm sure it was done on purpose after what the ex-president of Venezuela said about the U.S. He was one of the leaders that repeated that the U.S. has a HAARP weather making machine that can destroy countries and that they tested it in Haiti making the earthquake there.

Was Hugo Chavez Right About HAARP & The HAITI Earthquake? Is Weather Even Natural Anymore?

Here: I'll feed your paranoia...

H.A.A.R.P weather control

These idiots will use any excuse, no matter how silly, in order to defend their mistaken world view.

Democrats have a small percentage of conspiracy nut jobs. The brainwashed GOP/Fox Etc party has a majority LOL.

I NEVER said I agreed that how he felt was true... I just said that he said it, and then the U.S. ramped up oil production and drove down the value of oil which destroyed their economy.

You mean like the Saudis did when Obama was President? Look: Nobody ever said life was supposed to be fair. There's no reason we should inflict suffering upon ourselves just because some third-world shithole country can't get its actt together.

This is basically a capitalist world and the beauty of capitalism is that if you can't compete in the world market, GTFO of the way.

 

[Lewdog]

Democrats have a small percentage of conspiracy nut jobs. The brainwashed GOP/Fox Etc party has a majority LOL.

I have never seen anyone else here pull up the HAARP.

Even though, compared to the Russian conspiracy theory, that seems like a beacon of sane. Guy's an amateur compared to a seasoned veteran like yourself.

Really? Because a simple search of HAARP shows 39 search results.

Well, unlike you, I don't visit or search the conspiracy forum. Is there even such a thing? I don't care to find out, but apparently your routine consists of searching for posts related to HAARP.

All it takes it to put HAARP in the search box on ANY screen. Is using a search engine too complicated for you?

No, all it takes is a low IQ moron brain to search for stuff that no one with more than one neuron is interested about.

But keep searching. I am sure you will find many very high quality posts. There probably is a reason why this was my first time encountering the nonsense while you are bathing in it. Russia conspiracy next...

When the PRESIDENT of another country comes out and makes a statement like Chavez did it is all over the news. I didn't have to go searching conspiracy forums for it. YOU are the one that made the idiot statement that you have never seen the term HAARP used on this forum. It has. You're wrong. As Trump does... you get proven wrong and instead of admitting being wrong, you double down on being stupid and attack the person that proved you wrong. Do you really expect anyone to respect you for acting like a baby?

 

[Lewdog]

That's only one country and the U.S. played a large part in why they collapsed. Almost their entire government is financed off of oil... which is a horrible thing to do. You have to be more diversified. Because their whole economy relies so much on oil, when a large country like the U.S. ramps up oil production and drives the price of oil down, it absolutely devastates a country like Venezuela to the point they can't recover. I'm sure it was done on purpose after what the ex-president of Venezuela said about the U.S. He was one of the leaders that repeated that the U.S. has a HAARP weather making machine that can destroy countries and that they tested it in Haiti making the earthquake there.

Was Hugo Chavez Right About HAARP & The HAITI Earthquake? Is Weather Even Natural Anymore?

Here: I'll feed your paranoia...

H.A.A.R.P weather control

These idiots will use any excuse, no matter how silly, in order to defend their mistaken world view.

Democrats have a small percentage of conspiracy nut jobs. The brainwashed GOP/Fox Etc party has a majority LOL.

I NEVER said I agreed that how he felt was true... I just said that he said it, and then the U.S. ramped up oil production and drove down the value of oil which destroyed their economy.

You mean like the Saudis did when Obama was President? Look: Nobody ever said life was supposed to be fair. There's no reason we should inflict suffering upon ourselves just because some third-world shithole country can't get its actt together.

This is basically a capitalist world and the beauty of capitalism is that if you can't compete in the world market, GTFO of the way.

It just goes to show that Venezuela didn't collapse due to socialism. They collapsed because they put all their eggs in one basket and the U.S. destroyed the value of the one thing they depended upon.

 

[eagle7_31]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Robert C. Koons: Trump should boldly embrace a conservative single-payer system

I have posted this before and do so again. I believe it is a possible solution.

 

[JGalt]

Here: I'll feed your paranoia...

H.A.A.R.P weather control

These idiots will use any excuse, no matter how silly, in order to defend their mistaken world view.

Democrats have a small percentage of conspiracy nut jobs. The brainwashed GOP/Fox Etc party has a majority LOL.

I NEVER said I agreed that how he felt was true... I just said that he said it, and then the U.S. ramped up oil production and drove down the value of oil which destroyed their economy.

You mean like the Saudis did when Obama was President? Look: Nobody ever said life was supposed to be fair. There's no reason we should inflict suffering upon ourselves just because some third-world shithole country can't get its actt together.

This is basically a capitalist world and the beauty of capitalism is that if you can't compete in the world market, GTFO of the way.

It just goes to show that Venezuela didn't collapse due to socialism. They collapsed because they put all their eggs in one basket and the U.S. destroyed the value of the one thing they depended upon.

Whatever. We like crushing socialist regimes, even when leftists like Obama are in office.

 

[debbiedowner]

70% is high but socialist-leaning countries still have higher than average tax rates. We seriously don't deserve to be as screwed up as they are...

Top Ten Countries With Highest Tax Rates - Financesonline.com

And they are all much happier than we are..
And many more too....

Is this like some opinion you have based on your hatred for America, or have you actually lived in any of those countries?

Google happiest countries, moron, and try watching and and reading real news someday, super duper...

"Google"? Really?

There's your fallacy: Getting faulty information from a leftists website. You might as well be relying on late-night comedians for you political advice.

What's that? You do rely on late-night comedians for your political advice?

Dumbass. Do you not even have a clue as to how much of a fuckin' hillbilly you really are? Relying on late-night comedians for you political advice is the liberal equivalent of "Hold my beer and watch this!...."

Not going to turn out like you expected but much hilarity for any spectators, ya dumbass.

So, what do you use to search the internet? You have to use some sort of search program or site.

Well if you haven't guessed it they pull their information out of their ass or what Hannity says.

 

[debbiedowner]

Not even! Yet, it is repeatedly cited as a model for UHC. Many people confuse Medicare with Medicaid, though.

That’s because they are morons. Medicaid is a freebie! Medicare is paid for by working Americans! And the Democrats stoke 960 Billion dollars from it!

You are not too bright. You keep throwing out 960 billion even though you have been proven wrong. I am sorry for you.

Eat shit and die Debbie Downer!

What's the problem willowtree your trunk been pissed on by too many animals? BTW you still can't prove a thing.

Well, probably not to a hack like you! You brainless pos!

Still proven wrong and you cannot find any research that proves me wrong. Call me anything you want and stay a liar or prove me wrong and call me a liar.

 

[JGalt]

And they are all much happier than we are..
And many more too....

Is this like some opinion you have based on your hatred for America, or have you actually lived in any of those countries?

Google happiest countries, moron, and try watching and and reading real news someday, super duper...

"Google"? Really?

There's your fallacy: Getting faulty information from a leftists website. You might as well be relying on late-night comedians for you political advice.

What's that? You do rely on late-night comedians for your political advice?

Dumbass. Do you not even have a clue as to how much of a fuckin' hillbilly you really are? Relying on late-night comedians for you political advice is the liberal equivalent of "Hold my beer and watch this!...."

Not going to turn out like you expected but much hilarity for any spectators, ya dumbass.

So, what do you use to search the internet? You have to use some sort of search program or site.

Well if you haven't guessed it they pull their information out of their ass or what Hannity says.

Oh. You mean like those who were pulling info out of their collective asses when they said "There's no real clear path for Trump to reach 270 electoral votes"?

Ya'll just can't seem to grasp reality, can youse?

 

[debbiedowner]

And they are all much happier than we are..
And many more too....

Is this like some opinion you have based on your hatred for America, or have you actually lived in any of those countries?

Google happiest countries, moron, and try watching and and reading real news someday, super duper...

"Google"? Really?

There's your fallacy: Getting faulty information from a leftists website. You might as well be relying on late-night comedians for you political advice.

What's that? You do rely on late-night comedians for your political advice?

Dumbass. Do you not even have a clue as to how much of a fuckin' hillbilly you really are? Relying on late-night comedians for you political advice is the liberal equivalent of "Hold my beer and watch this!...."

Not going to turn out like you expected but much hilarity for any spectators, ya dumbass.

So, what do you use to search the internet? You have to use some sort of search program or site.

Well if you haven't guessed it they pull their information out of their ass or what Hannity says.

Only certain ones, clarified.

 

[Norman]

I have never seen anyone else here pull up the HAARP.

Even though, compared to the Russian conspiracy theory, that seems like a beacon of sane. Guy's an amateur compared to a seasoned veteran like yourself.

Really? Because a simple search of HAARP shows 39 search results.

Well, unlike you, I don't visit or search the conspiracy forum. Is there even such a thing? I don't care to find out, but apparently your routine consists of searching for posts related to HAARP.

All it takes it to put HAARP in the search box on ANY screen. Is using a search engine too complicated for you?

No, all it takes is a low IQ moron brain to search for stuff that no one with more than one neuron is interested about.

But keep searching. I am sure you will find many very high quality posts. There probably is a reason why this was my first time encountering the nonsense while you are bathing in it. Russia conspiracy next...

When the PRESIDENT of another country comes out and makes a statement like Chavez did it is all over the news. I didn't have to go searching conspiracy forums for it. YOU are the one that made the idiot statement that you have never seen the term HAARP used on this forum. It has. You're wrong. As Trump does... you get proven wrong and instead of admitting being wrong, you double down on being stupid and attack the person that proved you wrong. Do you really expect anyone to respect you for acting like a baby?

I have never seen the term HAARP stated in this forum, besides just now with you and your crazy leftist friend. Doesn't mean it hasn't been stated. I am not wrong about what I have seen, you moron!

 

[debbiedowner]

Is this like some opinion you have based on your hatred for America, or have you actually lived in any of those countries?

Google happiest countries, moron, and try watching and and reading real news someday, super duper...

"Google"? Really?

There's your fallacy: Getting faulty information from a leftists website. You might as well be relying on late-night comedians for you political advice.

What's that? You do rely on late-night comedians for your political advice?

Dumbass. Do you not even have a clue as to how much of a fuckin' hillbilly you really are? Relying on late-night comedians for you political advice is the liberal equivalent of "Hold my beer and watch this!...."

Not going to turn out like you expected but much hilarity for any spectators, ya dumbass.

So, what do you use to search the internet? You have to use some sort of search program or site.

Well if you haven't guessed it they pull their information out of their ass or what Hannity says.

Oh. You mean like those who were pulling info out of their collective asses when they said "There's no real clear path for Trump to reach 270 electoral votes"?

Ya'll just can't seem to grasp reality, can youse?

Again I never saw a thread title Hillary or Trump cheese head. Yes, you are one that pulls them out of your ass.