CDZ Is it Treason

[Billy_Kinetta]

Most familiar with the history of humans and human nature realize that said nature prohibits any possibility of global "peaceful coexistence". You would first have to change human nature, and that has not changed in all of human history. Ergo, it is unwise to lower your national defenses or diminish your influence.

Actually the present era is the most peaceful in recorded history.

That does not change the fact that human nature has not changed, nor does it preclude the likelihood that conflicts will again expand along with the population.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If we are not going to put overseas, then we can easily reduce the size of the ground forces. More Spec Ops, Ranger battalions, Green Berets, and four or five active divisions with a force reserve of thirteen divisions in the USAR and NG.

Air, sub, nuclear and tech divisions should all be multiplied.

What is the threat?

Now? About half the planet.

Are you serious?

We have a larger military than the next ten nations combined. Eight of those nations are our allies

Of course they are. All allies are provisional.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives need their fear mongering to build up imaginary enemies. Even after the Soviet Union collapsed it became obvious that they were not the threat they were built up to be

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Conservatives need their fear mongering to build up imaginary enemies. Even after the Soviet Union collapsed it became obvious that they were not the threat they were built up to be

Yup, the Soviets used to run the same dummy missiles around the block over and over again for their May Day parades.

Like Saddam boasting of WOMD. Even his generals believed him.

 

[konradv]

That does not change the fact that human nature has not changed, nor does it preclude the likelihood that conflicts will again expand along with the population.

It certainly doesn't support your "sell out" meme and it does support the notion that Obama deserved his Nobel for helping to set the tone of the age. If we'd gone with the the Republican in '08, we'd be "bomb, bomb, bombing" Iran instead of looking for a diplomatic solution to the problem.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives need their fear mongering to build up imaginary enemies. Even after the Soviet Union collapsed it became obvious that they were not the threat they were built up to be

Yup, the Soviets used to run the same dummy missiles around the block over and over again for their May Day parades.

Like Saddam boasting of WOMD. Even his generals believed him.

The Soviet military was a shell. Obsolete, poorly maintained, poorly trained troops, weak command structure

Yet, we used them to prop up military expansion for decades. The threat today is much, much lower

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It certainly doesn't support your "sell out" meme and it does support the notion that Obama deserved his Nobel for helping to set the tone of the age.

Now THAT'S funny.

If we'd gone with the the Republican in '08, we'd be "bomb, bomb, bombing" Iran instead of looking for a diplomatic solution to the problem.

Unlikely, and we are still looking for a solution, diplomatic or otherwise.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Conservatives need their fear mongering to build up imaginary enemies. Even after the Soviet Union collapsed it became obvious that they were not the threat they were built up to be

Yup, the Soviets used to run the same dummy missiles around the block over and over again for their May Day parades.

Like Saddam boasting of WOMD. Even his generals believed him.

The Soviet military was a shell. Obsolete, poorly maintained, poorly trained troops, weak command structure

Yet, we used them to prop up military expansion for decades. The threat today is much, much lower

We used them?

The level of ignorance among the Left on this board has surpassed all my expectations.

 

[konradv]

It certainly doesn't support your "sell out" meme and it does support the notion that Obama deserved his Nobel for helping to set the tone of the age.

Now THAT'S funny.

If we'd gone with the the Republican in '08, we'd be "bomb, bomb, bombing" Iran instead of looking for a diplomatic solution to the problem.

Unlikely, and we are still looking for a solution, diplomatic or otherwise.

Unlikely? So you're admitting the Republicans are just spouting a bunch of hot air?!?! At least Obama is sincere about his desire for peace.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives need their fear mongering to build up imaginary enemies. Even after the Soviet Union collapsed it became obvious that they were not the threat they were built up to be

Yup, the Soviets used to run the same dummy missiles around the block over and over again for their May Day parades.

Like Saddam boasting of WOMD. Even his generals believed him.

The Soviet military was a shell. Obsolete, poorly maintained, poorly trained troops, weak command structure

Yet, we used them to prop up military expansion for decades. The threat today is much, much lower

We used them?

The level of ignorance among the Left on this board has surpassed all my expectations.

Just like you are doing in your response to the OP

Creating imaginary bogeymen that will conquer the world if our military strength is depleted by one tank



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[Billy_Kinetta]

It certainly doesn't support your "sell out" meme and it does support the notion that Obama deserved his Nobel for helping to set the tone of the age.

Now THAT'S funny.

If we'd gone with the the Republican in '08, we'd be "bomb, bomb, bombing" Iran instead of looking for a diplomatic solution to the problem.

Unlikely, and we are still looking for a solution, diplomatic or otherwise.

Unlikely? So you're admitting the Republicans are just spouting a bunch of hot air?!?! At least Obama is sincere about his desire for peace.

The only thing Obama is sincere about is building a political portfolio as false as his media-generated image.

There are few nations left for him to alienate.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Conservatives need their fear mongering to build up imaginary enemies. Even after the Soviet Union collapsed it became obvious that they were not the threat they were built up to be

Yup, the Soviets used to run the same dummy missiles around the block over and over again for their May Day parades.

Like Saddam boasting of WOMD. Even his generals believed him.

The Soviet military was a shell. Obsolete, poorly maintained, poorly trained troops, weak command structure

Yet, we used them to prop up military expansion for decades. The threat today is much, much lower

We used them?

The level of ignorance among the Left on this board has surpassed all my expectations.

Just like you are doing in your response to the OP

Creating imaginary bogeymen that will conquer the world if our military strength is depleted by one tank

Again, the Left's understanding of human nature is incredibly thin.

 

[konradv]

The only thing Obama is sincere about is building a political portfolio as false as his media-generated image. There are few nations left for him to alienate.

He can't run again. You can stop the bogus campaign memes.

 

[rightwinger]

It certainly doesn't support your "sell out" meme and it does support the notion that Obama deserved his Nobel for helping to set the tone of the age.

Now THAT'S funny.

If we'd gone with the the Republican in '08, we'd be "bomb, bomb, bombing" Iran instead of looking for a diplomatic solution to the problem.

Unlikely, and we are still looking for a solution, diplomatic or otherwise.

Unlikely? So you're admitting the Republicans are just spouting a bunch of hot air?!?! At least Obama is sincere about his desire for peace.

The only thing Obama is sincere about is building a political portfolio as false as his media-generated image.

There are few nations left for him to alienate.

Yet, our international reputation has improved under Obama

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives need their fear mongering to build up imaginary enemies. Even after the Soviet Union collapsed it became obvious that they were not the threat they were built up to be

Yup, the Soviets used to run the same dummy missiles around the block over and over again for their May Day parades.

Like Saddam boasting of WOMD. Even his generals believed him.

The Soviet military was a shell. Obsolete, poorly maintained, poorly trained troops, weak command structure

Yet, we used them to prop up military expansion for decades. The threat today is much, much lower

We used them?

The level of ignorance among the Left on this board has surpassed all my expectations.

Just like you are doing in your response to the OP

Creating imaginary bogeymen that will conquer the world if our military strength is depleted by one tank

Again, the Left's understanding of human nature is incredibly thin.

Human nature is one thing. Having a military force capable of competing with ours is another
There is no nation on earth capable of engaging our Army, Navy, Air Force or nuclear capability

And no, we do not need a massive military force to engage ISIS

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Yup, the Soviets used to run the same dummy missiles around the block over and over again for their May Day parades.

Like Saddam boasting of WOMD. Even his generals believed him.

The Soviet military was a shell. Obsolete, poorly maintained, poorly trained troops, weak command structure

Yet, we used them to prop up military expansion for decades. The threat today is much, much lower

We used them?

The level of ignorance among the Left on this board has surpassed all my expectations.

Just like you are doing in your response to the OP

Creating imaginary bogeymen that will conquer the world if our military strength is depleted by one tank

Again, the Left's understanding of human nature is incredibly thin.

Human nature is one thing. Having a military force capable of competing with ours is another
There is no nation on earth capable of engaging our Army, Navy, Air Force or nuclear capability

And no, we do not need a massive military force to engage ISIS

Not the point. I believe in an overwhelming defensive posture, so that none will even consider making a move.

As to your buddy warming the WH chair (per konradv), the continuous growth of ISIS fully indicates where he is coming from.

 

[konradv]

As to your buddy warming the WH chair (per konradv), the continuous growth of ISIS fully indicates where he is coming from.

Sorry, but ISIS is the result of an ill-considered invasion by George Bush.

 

[rightwinger]

The Soviet military was a shell. Obsolete, poorly maintained, poorly trained troops, weak command structure

Yet, we used them to prop up military expansion for decades. The threat today is much, much lower

We used them?

The level of ignorance among the Left on this board has surpassed all my expectations.

Just like you are doing in your response to the OP

Creating imaginary bogeymen that will conquer the world if our military strength is depleted by one tank

Again, the Left's understanding of human nature is incredibly thin.

Human nature is one thing. Having a military force capable of competing with ours is another
There is no nation on earth capable of engaging our Army, Navy, Air Force or nuclear capability

And no, we do not need a massive military force to engage ISIS

Not the point. I believe in an overwhelming defensive posture, so that none will even consider making a move.

As to your buddy warming the WH chair (per konradv), the continuous growth of ISIS fully indicates where he is coming from.

You have a very weak understanding of military doctrine. You build your military to respond to existing threat not some imaginary boogeyman at some undetermined time. As the threat evolves, you revise your military accordingly
ISIS is a nuisance. The question is...Do we want to deploy military forces to stop them. Personally, I am tired of being the worlds policeman

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

As to your buddy warming the WH chair (per konradv), the continuous growth of ISIS fully indicates where he is coming from.

Sorry, but ISIS is the result of an ill-considered invasion by George Bush.

Of course, same as Bozo the Clown was the first extraterrestrial to visit Earth and make a profit.

 

[rightwinger]

Realistically, we could defend our borders with 10% of our existing military. With our geography between two huge oceans and peaceful neighbors it does not take much to "keep us safe"
The other 90% we spend on our military is to project our power around the globe. How much of that is actually needed is open for debate