Is man a spiritual being?

[ding]

That sounds spiritual to me.

It actually sounds like you believe the essence of you is your soul.

It could be but no real proof yet.

There is no such thing as real proof in science.

There are only observations that lead to hypothesis, theories and laws. Any of which can be disproven at a later date.

I still need solid proof, otherwise it's just a theory. And that's one of the reasons that I started coming here, to see if anyone had any solid proof of god, a soul,... since some people believe so strongly, I thought maybe someone can convince me with some proof. But nope, hasn't happened so far.

Why do I need to convince you of your own beliefs? I asked you if you were spiritual.

I leave the spiritual door open, but I can't hang my hat on that, there's no solid proof. Humans want to keep living after they die so they concoct a whole series of myths.

Like your beliefs on reincarnation?

 

[Taz]

It could be but no real proof yet.

There is no such thing as real proof in science.

There are only observations that lead to hypothesis, theories and laws. Any of which can be disproven at a later date.

I still need solid proof, otherwise it's just a theory. And that's one of the reasons that I started coming here, to see if anyone had any solid proof of god, a soul,... since some people believe so strongly, I thought maybe someone can convince me with some proof. But nope, hasn't happened so far.

Why do I need to convince you of your own beliefs? I asked you if you were spiritual.

I leave the spiritual door open, but I can't hang my hat on that, there's no solid proof. Humans want to keep living after they die so they concoct a whole series of myths.

Like your beliefs on reincarnation?

It's the only one that has actual proof.

 

[ding]

There is no such thing as real proof in science.

There are only observations that lead to hypothesis, theories and laws. Any of which can be disproven at a later date.

I still need solid proof, otherwise it's just a theory. And that's one of the reasons that I started coming here, to see if anyone had any solid proof of god, a soul,... since some people believe so strongly, I thought maybe someone can convince me with some proof. But nope, hasn't happened so far.

Why do I need to convince you of your own beliefs? I asked you if you were spiritual.

I leave the spiritual door open, but I can't hang my hat on that, there's no solid proof. Humans want to keep living after they die so they concoct a whole series of myths.

Like your beliefs on reincarnation?

It's the only one that has actual proof.

Then you believe in spirits.

 

[Taz]

I still need solid proof, otherwise it's just a theory. And that's one of the reasons that I started coming here, to see if anyone had any solid proof of god, a soul,... since some people believe so strongly, I thought maybe someone can convince me with some proof. But nope, hasn't happened so far.

Why do I need to convince you of your own beliefs? I asked you if you were spiritual.

I leave the spiritual door open, but I can't hang my hat on that, there's no solid proof. Humans want to keep living after they die so they concoct a whole series of myths.

Like your beliefs on reincarnation?

It's the only one that has actual proof.

Then you believe in spirits.

I believe that it's possible, I'd like more proof, but to me it's the leading THEORY. Whether that makes me spiritual or not is moot, because I'm simply looking for the truth. Wherever it takes me.

 

[ding]

Why do I need to convince you of your own beliefs? I asked you if you were spiritual.

I leave the spiritual door open, but I can't hang my hat on that, there's no solid proof. Humans want to keep living after they die so they concoct a whole series of myths.

Like your beliefs on reincarnation?

It's the only one that has actual proof.

Then you believe in spirits.

I believe that it's possible, I'd like more proof, but to me it's the leading THEORY. Whether that makes me spiritual or not is moot, because I'm simply looking for the truth. Wherever it takes me.

That’s on you. No one can do it for you.

 

[Taz]

I leave the spiritual door open, but I can't hang my hat on that, there's no solid proof. Humans want to keep living after they die so they concoct a whole series of myths.

Like your beliefs on reincarnation?

It's the only one that has actual proof.

Then you believe in spirits.

I believe that it's possible, I'd like more proof, but to me it's the leading THEORY. Whether that makes me spiritual or not is moot, because I'm simply looking for the truth. Wherever it takes me.

That’s on you. No one can do it for you.

Sure, but that's why I came here, to see if anyone had anything concrete to point to a god. You folks paths all lead to a dead end.

 

[hobelim]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

 

[Taz]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

 

[hobelim]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Whats an atheist Jew?

Any rational person who does not believe that a three in one mangod diddled a virgin to father himself to become fully human and fully God only to say things that no one understood until he turned himself into a matzo before he was killed, rose from the dead, and floated up into the sky.

 

[Taz]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Whats an atheist Jew?

Any rational person who does not believe that a three in one mangod diddled a virgin to father himself to become fully human and fully God only to say things that no one understood until he was killed and turned into a matzo before he rose from the dead and floated up into the sky.

So you don’t know. Got it.

 

[anotherlife]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Atheist Jew is the usual socialist Jew. Strongly believes in the Talmud, and you are his cheap currency to wipe is ass with. Plus you like this, because you have faith in him when he tells you that there is no Satan.

 

[hobelim]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Whats an atheist Jew?

Any rational person who does not believe that a three in one mangod diddled a virgin to father himself to become fully human and fully God only to say things that no one understood until he was killed and turned into a matzo before he rose from the dead and floated up into the sky.

So you don’t know. Got it.

anyone who disputes his irrational claims about God is either a militant socialist, liberal marxist, or an atheist Jew.


Any rational person who does not believe that a three in one mangod diddled a virgin to father himself to become fully human and fully God only to say things that no one understood until he turned himself into a matzo before he was killed, rose from the dead, and floated up into the sky is trying to subvert Christianity according to ding.

 

[anotherlife]

The purpose of this thread is to discuss if man is predisposed to spirituality.

Since the beginning of man, man has had belief in a higher power. This belief has persisted throughout man’s existence.

Even today man overwhelming identifies himself as spiritual. So even though the grouping between belief in a specific religion may be declining, man has not abandoned his belief that he is more than just matter.

Very interesting questions!

Biologically, and physically, there are scientists who postulate yet to be fully described energy fields that are universal but detected and interacted with by certain parts of the human brain.

But more importantly, you are fully spiritual before the moment of your conception in your mother's womb. At the moment of your conception you are not spiritual at all. Then throughout your pregnancy and the rest of your life, your senses report on your progress of gradually rebuilding your spiritual origin.

Mathematically, if there was no such thing as spiritual origin and spiritual drive to rebuild, then all events in life would be fully Gaussian random, which has never been measured, but the opposite was measured.

 

[hobelim]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Atheist Jew is the usual socialist Jew. Strongly believes in the Talmud, and you are his cheap currency to wipe is ass with. Plus you like this, because you have faith in him when he tells you that there is no Satan.

Not to worry!

Once they realize that satan, the serpent of old, is a metaphor for whatever species of person convinced you to set aside the law of God and practice idolatry for spiritual life , the very thing that God promises results in death, they will be astonished, shut their mouths, and believe.

 

[anotherlife]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Whats an atheist Jew?

Any rational person who does not believe that a three in one mangod diddled a virgin to father himself to become fully human and fully God only to say things that no one understood until he was killed and turned into a matzo before he rose from the dead and floated up into the sky.

So you don’t know. Got it.

anyone who disputes his irrational claims about God is either a militant socialist, liberal marxist, or an atheist Jew.


Any rational person who does not believe that a three in one mangod diddled a virgin to father himself to become fully human and fully God only to say things that no one understood until he turned himself into a matzo before he was killed, rose from the dead, and floated up into the sky is trying to subvert Christianity according to ding.

There is no law against being an enemy of Christ. But the Talmud will not protect you from Satan. Or do you think you have that figured? Interesting ...

 

[hobelim]

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Whats an atheist Jew?

Any rational person who does not believe that a three in one mangod diddled a virgin to father himself to become fully human and fully God only to say things that no one understood until he was killed and turned into a matzo before he rose from the dead and floated up into the sky.

So you don’t know. Got it.

anyone who disputes his irrational claims about God is either a militant socialist, liberal marxist, or an atheist Jew.


Any rational person who does not believe that a three in one mangod diddled a virgin to father himself to become fully human and fully God only to say things that no one understood until he turned himself into a matzo before he was killed, rose from the dead, and floated up into the sky is trying to subvert Christianity according to ding.

There is no law against being an enemy of Christ. But the Talmud will not protect you from Satan. Or do you think you have that figured? Interesting ...

Yes I have that figured.

I have been given a long chain forged up there somewhere by sky fairies to bind satan hand and foot for the next thousand years.

Don't tell anybody.. Its a secret.

 

[anotherlife]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Atheist Jew is the usual socialist Jew. Strongly believes in the Talmud, and you are his cheap currency to wipe is ass with. Plus you like this, because you have faith in him when he tells you that there is no Satan.

Not to worry!

Once they realize that satan, the serpent of old, is a metaphor for whatever species of person convinced you to set aside the law of God and practice idolatry for spiritual life , the very thing that God promises results in death, they will be astonished, shut their mouths, and believe.

Jesus said that he didn't come to abolish God's law but to strengthen it. He also said that he is the light, so it is only through him that you can get anything. Therefore idolatery and setting aside God is when you don't believe in Him. The death part of your post is true and correct.

 

[hobelim]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Atheist Jew is the usual socialist Jew. Strongly believes in the Talmud, and you are his cheap currency to wipe is ass with. Plus you like this, because you have faith in him when he tells you that there is no Satan.

Not to worry!

Once they realize that satan, the serpent of old, is a metaphor for whatever species of person convinced you to set aside the law of God and practice idolatry for spiritual life , the very thing that God promises results in death, they will be astonished, shut their mouths, and believe.

Jesus said that he didn't come to abolish God's law but to strengthen it. He also said that he is the light, so it is only through him that you can get anything. Therefore idolatery and setting aside God is when you don't believe in Him. The death part of your post is true and correct.

Exactly.

"He who sets aside even the least of the Laws demands, and teaches others to do the same, will be called the least in the kingdom of God"

Apparently, for some mysterious reason, Christians, as faithful and dedicated as they profess to be, don't believe in Jesus.

They claim the Law of God was abolished. Imagine that!


If you want to understand what Jesus meant by saying "the least in the kingdom of God", see Genesis 3:14

 

[anotherlife]

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

What’s an “atheist Jew”?

Atheist Jew is the usual socialist Jew. Strongly believes in the Talmud, and you are his cheap currency to wipe is ass with. Plus you like this, because you have faith in him when he tells you that there is no Satan.

Not to worry!

Once they realize that satan, the serpent of old, is a metaphor for whatever species of person convinced you to set aside the law of God and practice idolatry for spiritual life , the very thing that God promises results in death, they will be astonished, shut their mouths, and believe.

Jesus said that he didn't come to abolish God's law but to strengthen it. He also said that he is the light, so it is only through him that you can get anything. Therefore idolatery and setting aside God is when you don't believe in Him. The death part of your post is true and correct.

Exactly.

"He who sets aside even the least of the Laws demands, and teaches others to do the same, will be called the least in the kingdom of God"

Apparently, for some mysterious reason, Christians, as faithful and dedicated as they profess to be, don't believe in Jesus.

They claim the Law of God was abolished. Imagine that!


If you want to understand what Jesus meant by saying "the least in the kingdom of God", see Genesis 3:14

Well there is plenty of room for confusion because the Pharisees and a few others put in tons of extra laws and claimed them to be from God too. This law making process got only worse in the 21st century. So yes, many Christians are lead astray by it. Luckily I am not one of them.

 

[ding]

Seriously what better cover is there for a militant atheist Jew than to disguise himself as believing in God so he can subordinate Christianity.

lol...


What I am actually doing is showing the only rational way to interpret the fantastical claims of scripture that conforms to and is confirmed by reality, the only rational way to interpret the irrational things that Christians already profess to believe, the only rational way to interpret the nutty things that Jesus said, the only rational way to understand and conform to divine law that fulfills the promise of life.

In the process the antichrist, unleashed on the world in 325 c.e. by Rome, will be completely destroyed.

You got a problem with that?

You are making a critical theory argument. You are stating what you believe it isn’t. Not what you believe it is. If you were to state what you believe it is, then you would reveal exactly what I have been saying. You are a militant atheist Jew.

How can I have a problem? I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.