Is man a spiritual being?

[ding]

most of those who believe have been brainwashed since they were kids, to believe
you can make kids believe anything--then they brainwash their kids, etc etc
..we MAKE kids believe in Santa [ which is not real ]
...or even adults--look at what hitler, Jim Jones, Pol Pot, the Comet Cult, etc etc etc did--made people believe in spirituality so much, that they committed SUICIDE

That is where you are wrong. Santa is real, he just died many, many years ago is all and how relevant his legacy is regarding giving and faith in God that prompted such giving is up for your to highlight or ignore.

Santa was invented by Coca-Cola, 'nuff said.

No, Santa is not a legend born of pure fantasy, it is based upon a real person.

The fat guy in the red suit with the white beard was invented by Coca-Cola.

Are you spiritual?

 

[ding]

most of those who believe have been brainwashed since they were kids, to believe
you can make kids believe anything--then they brainwash their kids, etc etc
..we MAKE kids believe in Santa [ which is not real ]
...or even adults--look at what hitler, Jim Jones, Pol Pot, the Comet Cult, etc etc etc did--made people believe in spirituality so much, that they committed SUICIDE

That is where you are wrong. Santa is real, he just died many, many years ago is all and how relevant his legacy is regarding giving and faith in God that prompted such giving is up for your to highlight or ignore.

there is no god--jesus was not a son of god [ obviously ] etc
there is no afterlife/etc
can't be proven
it's that simple
....just ''like'' Santa, some MAN might've helped get toys for kids/etc---but the Santa riding a sled in the sky/etc is NOT real
..jesus might have been a MAN saying neat, good things--that's all

Are you spiritual?

 

[Natural Citizen]

I don’t know if everyone who claims to be spiritual believes in the divine but I do believe they believe in spirituality.

So I do believe man is predisposed to spirituality. This ought to raise suspicion for the reason why.

There must exist a primary foundation for moral code in every Individual, though. If man believes himself to be his own primary foundation for moral code, then he cannot contend to be spiritual in nature. I suppose he could claim so. But it'd be subjective.

 

[harmonica]

most of those who believe have been brainwashed since they were kids, to believe
you can make kids believe anything--then they brainwash their kids, etc etc
..we MAKE kids believe in Santa [ which is not real ]
...or even adults--look at what hitler, Jim Jones, Pol Pot, the Comet Cult, etc etc etc did--made people believe in spirituality so much, that they committed SUICIDE

That is where you are wrong. Santa is real, he just died many, many years ago is all and how relevant his legacy is regarding giving and faith in God that prompted such giving is up for your to highlight or ignore.

there is no god--jesus was not a son of god [ obviously ] etc
there is no afterlife/etc
can't be proven
it's that simple
....just ''like'' Santa, some MAN might've helped get toys for kids/etc---but the Santa riding a sled in the sky/etc is NOT real
..jesus might have been a MAN saying neat, good things--that's all

Are you spiritual?

spir·it·u·al
/ˈspiriCH(o͞o)əl/
adjective

1. 1.
   relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.
   "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare"
   synonyms: nonmaterial, incorporeal, intangible; More
   
2. 2.
   relating to religion or religious belief.

1. there is no human soul--so obviously no
[define soul ]
2. religion is man made--fairytales/etc --
so no

 

[RodISHI]

The purpose of this thread is to discuss if man is predisposed to spirituality.

Since the beginning of man, man has had belief in a higher power. This belief has persisted throughout man’s existence.

Even today man overwhelming identifies himself as spiritual. So even though the grouping between belief in a specific religion may be declining, man has not abandoned his belief that he is more than just matter.

Historically people who did not submit to the popular gods promoted by the ruling elite were marginalized, persecuted and killed, even entire families.

Belief has been more a consequence of the instinct to survive than evidence of anything spiritual.

And yet it persisted throughout the ages.

But it seems that you are agreeing with me that spirituality is prevalent in man.

No, it sounds to me like he is saying that man is not necessarily spiritual, but it (spirituality) has survived because people who reject it are killed. It’s a poor argument on his part to be sure.

Being dead to the spirit and killing someone or chopping off their human head is not one in the same. Apparently those who are unaware of the spirit who can only think with a worldly view and these are unaware of the difference. To be raised from the dead spiritually speaking is to become aware that there is life beyond what we can see with our worldly/carnally minded eyes. In some cases we see things of the spirit but it doesn't make sense to us so we pass on it until we are awakened to what was meant or exactly what may have transpired that we did not fully understand.

 

[Taz]

most of those who believe have been brainwashed since they were kids, to believe
you can make kids believe anything--then they brainwash their kids, etc etc
..we MAKE kids believe in Santa [ which is not real ]
...or even adults--look at what hitler, Jim Jones, Pol Pot, the Comet Cult, etc etc etc did--made people believe in spirituality so much, that they committed SUICIDE

That is where you are wrong. Santa is real, he just died many, many years ago is all and how relevant his legacy is regarding giving and faith in God that prompted such giving is up for your to highlight or ignore.

Santa was invented by Coca-Cola, 'nuff said.

No, Santa is not a legend born of pure fantasy, it is based upon a real person.

The fat guy in the red suit with the white beard was invented by Coca-Cola.

Are you spiritual?

In what sense?

 

[Hawkins]

The purpose of this thread is to discuss if man is predisposed to spirituality.

Since the beginning of man, man has had belief in a higher power. This belief has persisted throughout man’s existence.

Even today man overwhelming identifies himself as spiritual. So even though the grouping between belief in a specific religion may be declining, man has not abandoned his belief that he is more than just matter.

Spirituality mainly and/or possibly comes from 2 factors. First is human testimonies. Long before the emergence of human science, spirituality had already been defined by humans as "something outside of our space and/or time". Coincidentally what today's science won't be able to reach is "something outside of our space/time", as science is experiment based and we can't go outside of our space and time to establish experiments or to do observations.

Though I was raised an atheist, I heard enough about ghost encounters experienced by my close relatives and close friends of the family. As an atheist I still considered those experience credible to a certain extent, especially the experience from my mother who was an extremely honest person. For an example, she ever played a kind of demon board game where she asked a question by heart and the board demon actually selected a series of characters to form a complete sentence which answered exactly what she asked. This kind of encounters are not always about something between hallucination or not.

The second cause may be from the unknown of the future, that is, what could possibly happen after death. This is a piece of faith for everyone in ancient times as well as in today's world. Today we are more confident about our science can discover everything thus if our science doesn't detect anything it is safe to assume its absence. This is however an educated line of reasoning and could well be a delusion, as the bottom line is our science is incapable of reaching existence residing outside our space/time as mentioned about. "Science can discover everything" is just a piece of faith if not a delusion.

Of course and for the same reason, ancient humans may choose to believe spirituality after death due to the same unknown plus that they were not scientifically equipped. However this never rules out the possibility that they are right but today's humans are wrong!

 

[Votto]

most of those who believe have been brainwashed since they were kids, to believe
you can make kids believe anything--then they brainwash their kids, etc etc
..we MAKE kids believe in Santa [ which is not real ]
...or even adults--look at what hitler, Jim Jones, Pol Pot, the Comet Cult, etc etc etc did--made people believe in spirituality so much, that they committed SUICIDE

That is where you are wrong. Santa is real, he just died many, many years ago is all and how relevant his legacy is regarding giving and faith in God that prompted such giving is up for your to highlight or ignore.

there is no god--jesus was not a son of god [ obviously ] etc
there is no afterlife/etc
can't be proven
it's that simple
....just ''like'' Santa, some MAN might've helped get toys for kids/etc---but the Santa riding a sled in the sky/etc is NOT real
..jesus might have been a MAN saying neat, good things--that's all

To say though that there is no truth to the story of Santa or Jesus is inaccurate.

It is therefore your job to decide what is accurate about their story.

 

[task0778]

To have hope for a better life for yourself and your children is to be a spiritual person. If you got no hope, no love, no gratitude, no forgiveness, no mercy, then I suppose you are not a spiritual person; but you are also one sorry SOB and I feel really bad for you.

PS: spirituality does not require religion, or even a belief in God.

 

[BreezeWood]

Homo Ignoramus needed god(s) to make sense of its surroundings.

So you are agreeing with me that mankind is overwhelming spiritual?

Humans have a very fertile imagination. Although lots of people are spiritual, it doesn't seem to be something that we're born with, it has to be taught.

And although most of the world's people are spiritual, just remember that most of the world's people are also fucking dumber than dirt.

there are areas of the brain in which "spirituality" is kinda located ------on stimulation of those area---the person
experiences intense religious "experiences"---of course the
experiences are based on "IMPLANTED" information which get
conjured up from deep grey matter------the areas include---usually---the right temporal lobe and the anterior part of the
right frontal lobe <<<< that's from whence cometh angels
and devils and visions in the mind of the delirious whether the
delirium in induced by toxin or neoplasm or is 'functional'

.

there are areas of the brain in which "spirituality" is kinda located

wrong word ... Flora has no CNS, what you are referring to is not spirituality -

spirituality is the revision of the metaphysical origin that all living beings originate from. the proof is in their physical presence, the physiology of both flora and fauna is a metaphysical substance which appears as a reproduction from a single ancient source through progression and disappears when its spiritual content ceases to exist.

the CNS included.

 

[ding]

That is where you are wrong. Santa is real, he just died many, many years ago is all and how relevant his legacy is regarding giving and faith in God that prompted such giving is up for your to highlight or ignore.

Santa was invented by Coca-Cola, 'nuff said.

No, Santa is not a legend born of pure fantasy, it is based upon a real person.

The fat guy in the red suit with the white beard was invented by Coca-Cola.

Are you spiritual?

In what sense?

Any sense you see fit. Just explain what it means to you.

 

[ding]

I don’t know if everyone who claims to be spiritual believes in the divine but I do believe they believe in spirituality.

So I do believe man is predisposed to spirituality. This ought to raise suspicion for the reason why.

There must exist a primary foundation for moral code in every Individual, though. If man believes himself to be his own primary foundation for moral code, then he cannot contend to be spiritual in nature. I suppose he could claim so. But it'd be subjective.

I don’t believe it matters to be honest because it is the fact that so many believe in spirituality that determines that it is a inherent in men. In other words they can disagree on what moral is and still show how important they believe morality or spirituality is.

 

[ding]

most of those who believe have been brainwashed since they were kids, to believe
you can make kids believe anything--then they brainwash their kids, etc etc
..we MAKE kids believe in Santa [ which is not real ]
...or even adults--look at what hitler, Jim Jones, Pol Pot, the Comet Cult, etc etc etc did--made people believe in spirituality so much, that they committed SUICIDE

That is where you are wrong. Santa is real, he just died many, many years ago is all and how relevant his legacy is regarding giving and faith in God that prompted such giving is up for your to highlight or ignore.

there is no god--jesus was not a son of god [ obviously ] etc
there is no afterlife/etc
can't be proven
it's that simple
....just ''like'' Santa, some MAN might've helped get toys for kids/etc---but the Santa riding a sled in the sky/etc is NOT real
..jesus might have been a MAN saying neat, good things--that's all

Are you spiritual?

spir·it·u·al
/ˈspiriCH(o͞o)əl/
adjective

1. 1.
   relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.
   "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare"
   synonyms: nonmaterial, incorporeal, intangible; More
   
2. 2.
   relating to religion or religious belief.

1. there is no human soul--so obviously no
[define soul ]
2. religion is man made--fairytales/etc --
so no

So you don’t consider yourself to be spiritual in any sense of the word?

 

[Taz]

Santa was invented by Coca-Cola, 'nuff said.

No, Santa is not a legend born of pure fantasy, it is based upon a real person.

The fat guy in the red suit with the white beard was invented by Coca-Cola.

Are you spiritual?

In what sense?

Any sense you see fit. Just explain what it means to you.

I think that it’s possible that there is a sort of spiritual plane, though not much solid proof yet.

 

[ding]

key word = belief
be·lieve
/bəˈlēv/
verb

1. 
   
   
   • accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of.
     "the superintendent believed Lancaster's story"
     synonyms: be convinced by, trust, have confidence in, consider honest, consider truthful More
   • 2.
     hold (something) as an opinion; think or suppose

by your own words/words--man is not a spiritual being
humans want/mentally need to believe in spirits/god/etc
they CAN'T accept that there is no after life/spiritual life/etc--

Have you seen the polls that show people are overwhelming spiritual?

Those polls just show how faithless people really are.

So you don’t believe people overwhelmingly self identify as being spiritual?

I'm sure they do, but that doesn't mean they are being anything other than delusional. The world can be a very scary place. If you don't know what the hell is going on there is a measure of safety joining a herd of dummies..

Are you spiritual?

 

[harmonica]

most of those who believe have been brainwashed since they were kids, to believe
you can make kids believe anything--then they brainwash their kids, etc etc
..we MAKE kids believe in Santa [ which is not real ]
...or even adults--look at what hitler, Jim Jones, Pol Pot, the Comet Cult, etc etc etc did--made people believe in spirituality so much, that they committed SUICIDE

That is where you are wrong. Santa is real, he just died many, many years ago is all and how relevant his legacy is regarding giving and faith in God that prompted such giving is up for your to highlight or ignore.

there is no god--jesus was not a son of god [ obviously ] etc
there is no afterlife/etc
can't be proven
it's that simple
....just ''like'' Santa, some MAN might've helped get toys for kids/etc---but the Santa riding a sled in the sky/etc is NOT real
..jesus might have been a MAN saying neat, good things--that's all

To say though that there is no truth to the story of Santa or Jesus is inaccurate.

It is therefore your job to decide what is accurate about their story.

jesus being the son of god is not true--cannot be proven
Santa flying in a sled not true

 

[hobelim]

key word = belief
be·lieve
/bəˈlēv/
verb

1. 
   
   
   • accept (something) as true; feel sure of the truth of.
     "the superintendent believed Lancaster's story"
     synonyms: be convinced by, trust, have confidence in, consider honest, consider truthful More
   • 2.
     hold (something) as an opinion; think or suppose

by your own words/words--man is not a spiritual being
humans want/mentally need to believe in spirits/god/etc
they CAN'T accept that there is no after life/spiritual life/etc--

Have you seen the polls that show people are overwhelming spiritual?

Those polls just show how faithless people really are.

So you don’t believe people overwhelmingly self identify as being spiritual?

I'm sure they do, but that doesn't mean they are being anything other than delusional. The world can be a very scary place. If you don't know what the hell is going on there is a measure of safety joining a herd of dummies..

Are you spiritual?

What do you mean by spiritual? I have consciousness, a clean one, like a tree whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat.

When ancient people were speaking about a person having a clean or unclean spirit they were just talking about a person either having a clean or unclean mind.

Its really very simple.

Either you are led by a spirit of perversity or a spirit of truth.

You insist that the way to eternal life is through the worship of a man in the form of a cracker as if it was the living God.

You have a very filthy and perverse mind, uh, er, unclean spirit.

 

[Taz]

Have you seen the polls that show people are overwhelming spiritual?

Those polls just show how faithless people really are.

So you don’t believe people overwhelmingly self identify as being spiritual?

I'm sure they do, but that doesn't mean they are being anything other than delusional. The world can be a very scary place. If you don't know what the hell is going on there is a measure of safety joining a herd of dummies..

Are you spiritual?

What do you mean by spiritual? I have consciousness, a clean one, like a tree whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat.

When ancient people were speaking about a person having a clean or unclean spirit they were just talking about a person either having a clean or unclean mind.

Its really very simple.

Either you are led by a spirit of perversity or a spirit of truth.

You insist that the way to eternal life is through the worship of a man in the form of a cracker as if it was the living God.

You have a very filthy and perverse mind, uh, er, spirit.

You promote eternal life through the worship of a book. Not any better.

 

[hobelim]

Those polls just show how faithless people really are.

So you don’t believe people overwhelmingly self identify as being spiritual?

I'm sure they do, but that doesn't mean they are being anything other than delusional. The world can be a very scary place. If you don't know what the hell is going on there is a measure of safety joining a herd of dummies..

Are you spiritual?

What do you mean by spiritual? I have consciousness, a clean one, like a tree whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat.

When ancient people were speaking about a person having a clean or unclean spirit they were just talking about a person either having a clean or unclean mind.

Its really very simple.

Either you are led by a spirit of perversity or a spirit of truth.

You insist that the way to eternal life is through the worship of a man in the form of a cracker as if it was the living God.

You have a very filthy and perverse mind, uh, er, spirit.

You promote eternal life through the worship of a book. Not any better.

The worship of a book? Are you really that dumb?

 

[Taz]

So you don’t believe people overwhelmingly self identify as being spiritual?

I'm sure they do, but that doesn't mean they are being anything other than delusional. The world can be a very scary place. If you don't know what the hell is going on there is a measure of safety joining a herd of dummies..

Are you spiritual?

What do you mean by spiritual? I have consciousness, a clean one, like a tree whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat.

When ancient people were speaking about a person having a clean or unclean spirit they were just talking about a person either having a clean or unclean mind.

Its really very simple.

Either you are led by a spirit of perversity or a spirit of truth.

You insist that the way to eternal life is through the worship of a man in the form of a cracker as if it was the living God.

You have a very filthy and perverse mind, uh, er, spirit.

You promote eternal life through the worship of a book. Not any better.

The worship of a book? Are you really that dumb?

It's how you found your magical being. You are that dumb.