Is North Korea pushing too far?

[The Rabbi]

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Their country is deteriorating rapidly and they know they're running out of options. In their naive minds, they think they can scare us into lifting sanctions, and this is the only card they (think they) have.

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And they're right. The bedwetters in the administration will do whatever they can to hush them off for the next three years. That's been the history with NK for the last probably 20 years.

 

[ima]

NK threatened us with nukes. Doesn't that oblige us to nuke them first?

 

[Katzndogz]

Just like Jimmy Carter - a weak, crap talking "pie-in-the-sky orator" with nothing to back up his empty suit. The world understands one thing - force and Obama AIN'T the guy that portrays that.

I expect the senior leadership of al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the Somalia pirates, Muhammar Khadaffi, the terrorists hiding out in Yemen and Pakistan and the Lord's Resistance Army, among others, would disagree with that assessment of our President.

WHat?...Islamo-fascism isn't spreading fast enough for you? Pakistan may as well be an enemy now. We no longer can consider Egypt, once an important partner as ally. Yes, we are giving these criminals( Muslim Brotherhood) a bunch of money, but that is our President appeasing a potential aggressor.
Iraq is still an unstable nation with elements of Al Qaida moving back into the country. Iran has blood in their eyes for the US.
Even the Russians, who we drilled into the ground without firing a single shot are now regaining their status as a belligerent nation. Putin, who runs Russia, has no respect for Obama. He would not meet with Obama last time he visited Russia.

Putin doesn't need to waste his time on the Washington lightweight. He's getting what he wants anyway.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/w...ancels-missile-defense-russia-opposed.html?hp

It's the flexability obama promised.

 

[Indofred]

One has to ask.
Who attacked who and has NK ever invaded America?

America created the enemy.

Like it or not, it's a fact.

 

[ima]

One has to ask.
Who attacked who and has NK ever invaded America?

America created the enemy.

Like it or not, it's a fact.

We should nuke NK, then right after, nuke Indonesia because nothing good ever came out of there either.

 

[The Rabbi]

One has to ask.
Who attacked who and has NK ever invaded America?

America created the enemy.

Like it or not, it's a fact.

Germany never invaded America either.
Dunce.

 

[Katzndogz]

Ohhh noooo. Leave North Korea alone. It is doing just fine and if the little twerp over there embarrasses the hell out of the little twerp here, it will be just fine.

Did the US even know that NK was testing that nuclear bomb? No. We don't have an intelligence system. Watching a cloistered fool like Kim Jong Un make a bigger fool out of obama is perfect. It's not like we really need Hawaii. obama can take his vacations somewhere else.

 

[Unkotare]

North Korea doesn't stand alone. It has allies. Iran and Venezuela would be happy to help North Korea.

A North Korean weapon, on an Iranian delivery system, launched from Venezula would do just fine.

Oh yeah, I'm sure Venezuela would be in a big hurry to handle that part of the plan. Especially now that El Loco is gone.

 

[sfcalifornia]

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Their country is deteriorating rapidly and they know they're running out of options. In their naive minds, they think they can scare us into lifting sanctions, and this is the only card they (think they) have.

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Even China's getting pissed with NK.

When China and the US both agree on something political, you know the situation is deteriorating.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/w...ptive-nuclear-attack.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Ignoring threats of retaliation, the United Nations Security Council ordered new economic sanctions against North Korea on Thursday for its third nuclear test last month, unanimously approving a resolution that the United States negotiated with China, the North’s greatest protector.

 

[Mac1958]

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Their country is deteriorating rapidly and they know they're running out of options. In their naive minds, they think they can scare us into lifting sanctions, and this is the only card they (think they) have.

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Even China's getting pissed with NK.

When China and the US both agree on something political, you know the situation is deteriorating.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/w...ptive-nuclear-attack.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Ignoring threats of retaliation, the United Nations Security Council ordered new economic sanctions against North Korea on Thursday for its third nuclear test last month, unanimously approving a resolution that the United States negotiated with China, the North’s greatest protector.

Yeah, I've been wondering if and when North Korea would reach a point where they'd jump the shark with China. The Chinese sure as hell aren't dumb, at some point they may need to lean on the loonies.

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[sfcalifornia]

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Their country is deteriorating rapidly and they know they're running out of options. In their naive minds, they think they can scare us into lifting sanctions, and this is the only card they (think they) have.

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Even China's getting pissed with NK.

When China and the US both agree on something political, you know the situation is deteriorating.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/w...ptive-nuclear-attack.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Ignoring threats of retaliation, the United Nations Security Council ordered new economic sanctions against North Korea on Thursday for its third nuclear test last month, unanimously approving a resolution that the United States negotiated with China, the North’s greatest protector.

Yeah, I've been wondering if and when North Korea would reach a point where they'd jump the shark with China. The Chinese sure as hell aren't dumb, at some point they may need to lean on the loonies.

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I made the mistake of thinking Junior would be saner than his Dad. Sure doesn't look like it.

 

[Unkotare]

China leans on them all the time. Ultimately, they are stuck with them.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Talk is cheap for the Obama Administration "I promise you the most transparent Administration ever" "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it"
The North Korean soldiers will fight that much harder when they realize the scope of the loot they can steal from the South Koreans after they kill the inhabitants

Dictatorships and the dictators that run them always convince themselves that they are so much harder, tougher, and stronger than the soft, flaccid Democracies they threaten with conquest.
Why would the Japanese have chosen to willfully slaughter 250,000 disarmed and helpless residents of the City Of Nanking just to demonstrate to the world just how ferocious the Japanese soldier was

 

[Indofred]

One has to ask.
Who attacked who and has NK ever invaded America?

America created the enemy.

Like it or not, it's a fact.

Germany never invaded America either.
Dunce.

NK was never a real threat to the US.
You sent forces to counter communism abroad, not negate a danger to your home country.

 

[thereisnospoon]

One has to ask.
Who attacked who and has NK ever invaded America?

America created the enemy.

Like it or not, it's a fact.

When did the US invade NK?....When did the US force NK to become a Marxist dictatorship?
These are not normal people. They made a choice to govern themselves with a system that suits them best.

 

[Indofred]

One has to ask.
Who attacked who and has NK ever invaded America?

America created the enemy.

Like it or not, it's a fact.

When did the US invade NK?....When did the US force NK to become a Marxist dictatorship?
These are not normal people. They made a choice to govern themselves with a system that suits them best.

When did the US invade NK? - October 9, 1950
128,650 US soldiers were killed/injured in the Korean war.
Given Korea isn't just off the Californian coast, I suspect you must have invaded the place.
That or your navy bought some really crap, second hand compasses and got very lost.

The US, using a UN flag, attacked NK forces and, on the date noted, invaded NK.
The war was absolutely nothing to do with the US and was no threat to the US in any way.
America invaded for ideological reasons, nothing to do with a military threat.

The NK people may not have a lot of choice in their government but whatever the truth of that, how come the US gets to decide what's right for them?

You think your idiot politicians would learn but they're making exactly the same mistakes in Iran right now.
Prepare for a lot more dead and a rewriting of history when you get your arses kicked out again.
It makes no difference if you or I support the daft government in NK, fact is, America created its enemy where there was none.

 

[Unkotare]

People from insignificant, also-ran nations often freely exercise their luxury of being utterly naive.

 

[Melvin01]

Thomas Donilon, the White House National Security Advisor had some unusually blunt words for North Korea Monday. In diplomatic-speak, it amounts to drawing a line in the sand.

“We will draw upon the full range of our capabilities to protect against, and to respond to, the threat posed to us and to our allies by North Korea,” he said.

Donilon added that while the United States would like better relations with North Korea, it “refuses to reward bad North Korean behavior.”

“The United States,” he said, “will not play the game of accepting empty promises or yielding to threats.”


U.S. officials warn N. Korea after it scraps armistice - The Washington Post


While provocative statements from the North are nothing out of the ordinary, the risk of a miscalculation this time is exceptionally high. The new "Dear Leader" only assumed power a little over a year ago and nobody knows enough about him to fathom what he might be up to or how far he will go. It's also a given that North Korea will do something to test any new South Korean President and they have one, Park Geun-hye who just took office last month. She's the first woman to head that country and Kim might challenge her to see what she's made of.

But, if he pushes the Obama administration, he'll find that this President is not afraid to pound North Korea into the sand. For all his faults, Obama has shown a willingness to use military force whenever it's necessary and if Kim thinks he's a pushover, or President Park either, such a miscalculation could lead to tragic results for everybody.

N. Norea would actually be a candidate for innialation. The general public over there is starving, tortured or imprisoned in gulags. A couple of well placed Nukes which would be sure and take out the government wouldn't make things any worse for the rest of the people. Maybe if the little bastard is actually stupid enough to attack us that's what we should do.

One thing we don't want to do is have another bullshit foreign war like the one in 1950.

 

[Oldguy]

One has to ask.
Who attacked who and has NK ever invaded America?

America created the enemy.

Like it or not, it's a fact.

When did the US invade NK?....When did the US force NK to become a Marxist dictatorship?
These are not normal people. They made a choice to govern themselves with a system that suits them best.

When did the US invade NK? - October 9, 1950
128,650 US soldiers were killed/injured in the Korean war.
Given Korea isn't just off the Californian coast, I suspect you must have invaded the place.
That or your navy bought some really crap, second hand compasses and got very lost.

The US, using a UN flag, attacked NK forces and, on the date noted, invaded NK.
The war was absolutely nothing to do with the US and was no threat to the US in any way.
America invaded for ideological reasons, nothing to do with a military threat.

The NK people may not have a lot of choice in their government but whatever the truth of that, how come the US gets to decide what's right for them?

You think your idiot politicians would learn but they're making exactly the same mistakes in Iran right now.
Prepare for a lot more dead and a rewriting of history when you get your arses kicked out again.
It makes no difference if you or I support the daft government in NK, fact is, America created its enemy where there was none.

Alright, this revisionist history has gone far enough.

Yes, the US and UN troops invaded North Korea...but ONLY BECAUSE NORTH KOREA HAD INVADED SOUTH KOREA a few months before! Remember that? Without provocation or warning, they sent their army across the 38th parallel to subjugate South Korea.

The United States was NOT the aggressor in that war and to suggest our invasion of the North wasn't justified or provoked is dishonest. We were defending an ally from the use of naked force by Pyongyang.

 

[Melvin01]

When did the US invade NK?....When did the US force NK to become a Marxist dictatorship?
These are not normal people. They made a choice to govern themselves with a system that suits them best.

When did the US invade NK? - October 9, 1950
128,650 US soldiers were killed/injured in the Korean war.
Given Korea isn't just off the Californian coast, I suspect you must have invaded the place.
That or your navy bought some really crap, second hand compasses and got very lost.

The US, using a UN flag, attacked NK forces and, on the date noted, invaded NK.
The war was absolutely nothing to do with the US and was no threat to the US in any way.
America invaded for ideological reasons, nothing to do with a military threat.

The NK people may not have a lot of choice in their government but whatever the truth of that, how come the US gets to decide what's right for them?

You think your idiot politicians would learn but they're making exactly the same mistakes in Iran right now.
Prepare for a lot more dead and a rewriting of history when you get your arses kicked out again.
It makes no difference if you or I support the daft government in NK, fact is, America created its enemy where there was none.

Alright, this revisionist history has gone far enough.

Yes, the US and UN troops invaded North Korea...but ONLY BECAUSE NORTH KOREA HAD INVADED SOUTH KOREA a few months before! Remember that? Without provocation or warning, they sent their army across the 38th parallel to subjugate South Korea.

The United States was NOT the aggressor in that war and to suggest our invasion of the North wasn't justified or provoked is dishonest. We were defending an ally from the use of naked force by Pyongyang.

Ally? Roosevelt was dying in the conference where he, Stalin and Churchill divided the spoils of war and Stalin pulled the wool over their eyes and managed to gain something from his few weeks involvement in the Asian war and come out with everything north of the 38th parallel. Roosevelt would have laughed at him in his prime. Patton and MacArthur had the right idea......we should have gone ahead and kicked the shit out of Russia before the end of the war.