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That can't be determined since the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office found his birth certificate to be a 100% forgery.A lie. Ankeny v Daniels was not about presidential eligibility.Because he was not born in the USA to parents who were US Citizens.And why wouldn't he be a natural born citizen of the United States?
See, Vattel's Law of Nations.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Obama was ruled to be eligible as a natural born citizen by an Indiana court, which referenced Wok Kim Ark.
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He wasn't born in Kenya.
No
Oops...wrong case. My bad.A lie. Ankeny v Daniels was not about presidential eligibility.Because he was not born in the USA to parents who were US Citizens.He can run but he is not constitutionally eligible to be the POTUS because he is not a natural born citizen of the USA. If he becomes the President then he has usurped the office. Just as Chester Arthur and Obama usurped the presidency.
And why wouldn't he be a natural born citizen of the United States?
See, Vattel's Law of Nations.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Obama was ruled to be eligible as a natural born citizen by an Indiana court, which referenced Wok Kim Ark.
lol
Yes, that court decision was about his eligibility.
You lost, like you birfers always lose.
He wasn't born in Kenya.
What was it, 0-93 in the courts and legislatures?
Look it up yourself.Either prove he was in Hawaii on a student visa or run away like a coward like illmeil.That's irrelevant. What is relevant is that his father was not a US Citizen, he was merely in Hawaii on a student visa.He wasn't born in Kenya.
The total ignorance of history displayed by some clowns on this site is astounding.
Despite your self-congratulation, you remain insanely retarded. You made the claim that the left is challenging Cruz's eligibility. You now call me challenging you on that, "a faux question."Who said that? You really are nuts. I challenged to name names. I never restricted it to this thread.Pretty funny since we're both saying the same thing about Cruz and the term, "natural born citizen.'
Where we differ on this issue is that you still haven't shown who on the left thinks Cruz is ineligible due to being born in Canada. Everyone in this thread alone arguing that position is on the right.
Look at Fauny. He now wants to pretend that this is the only thread that has ever mentioned the "issue" of Ted Cruz' eligibility to be President.
You ran like a pussy.
Which, btw, answered for you.
Your faux question is and was irrelevant. You "challenge" me to name the names of some of your fellow lolberals who have taken to claiming that Cruz is somehow ineligible? LOL.
Gee. For some reason, I think a half wit like you could find out on your own. But upon your invitation to prove up for you that some of your fellow libs are making that asshole claim, I think I'll just invite you to eat shit.
You wouldn't make use of the information anyway. You are a gutless dishonest pigdog pussy.
Right?
Of course I am.
Which everyone one reading this can understand is your cowardly avoidance of answering it since you're an imbecile who just can't recognize that protests over Cruz's eligibility are coming from the right.
As I pointed out to you already, I have seen posts from members of this board from the left side of the political spectrum who HAVE made that taunting and rather silly claim.
Liberoids went batshit crazy when questions were asked about Obumbler's place of birth.
Now, still butthurt over that, they figure that they can "turn the tables" and seek some ironic solace by "challenging" Ted Cruz's Constitutional eligibility to be President -- since Cruz WAS born in Canada.
But then, they whinny and bray and whine and cry when their specious "arguments" get roundly, soundly, consistently and easily refuted.
It's actually funny to watch.
That statement is a ridiculous lie.The nationality of Obama's father is irrelevant. Natural born status follows place of birth. Both of Obama's parents could have been foreign nationals and he still would have been a natural born citizen since he was born in Hawaii.
Oh? Who on the left is whining about Cruz's eligibility. Every thread I've seen here on the subject has been started by a rightard.Liberoids went batshit crazy when questions were asked about Obumbler's place of birth.
Now, still butthurt over that, they figure that they can "turn the tables" and seek some ironic solace by "challenging" Ted Cruz's Constitutional eligibility to be President -- since Cruz WAS born in Canada.
But then, they whinny and bray and whine and cry when their specious "arguments" get roundly, soundly, consistently and easily refuted.
It's actually funny to watch.
Selective vision by you. No surprise there, shitbird.
Despite your self-congratulation, you remain insanely retarded. You made the claim that the left is challenging Cruz's eligibility. You now call me challenging you on that, "a faux question."Who said that? You really are nuts. I challenged to name names. I never restricted it to this thread.Look at Fauny. He now wants to pretend that this is the only thread that has ever mentioned the "issue" of Ted Cruz' eligibility to be President.
You ran like a pussy.
Which, btw, answered for you.
Your faux question is and was irrelevant. You "challenge" me to name the names of some of your fellow lolberals who have taken to claiming that Cruz is somehow ineligible? LOL.
Gee. For some reason, I think a half wit like you could find out on your own. But upon your invitation to prove up for you that some of your fellow libs are making that asshole claim, I think I'll just invite you to eat shit.
You wouldn't make use of the information anyway. You are a gutless dishonest pigdog pussy.
Right?
Of course I am.
Which everyone one reading this can understand is your cowardly avoidance of answering it since you're an imbecile who just can't recognize that protests over Cruz's eligibility are coming from the right.
As I pointed out to you already, I have seen posts from members of this board from the left side of the political spectrum who HAVE made that taunting and rather silly claim.
Well the nebulous 'left' you claim to cite isn't here. The birthers and their debunkers are. With Steven the racist conservative being the leading proponent of Cruz being ineligible. And we 'liberals' telling him he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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your just deliberately confusing the issue............the ark case is about citizenship in general....not about requirements to be president ...Jays letter shows their intentions......if they changed their minds............they needed to change the Constitution.........which they didnt
Oh? Who on the left is whining about Cruz's eligibility. Every thread I've seen here on the subject has been started by a rightard.Liberoids went batshit crazy when questions were asked about Obumbler's place of birth.
Now, still butthurt over that, they figure that they can "turn the tables" and seek some ironic solace by "challenging" Ted Cruz's Constitutional eligibility to be President -- since Cruz WAS born in Canada.
But then, they whinny and bray and whine and cry when their specious "arguments" get roundly, soundly, consistently and easily refuted.
It's actually funny to watch.
Selective vision by you. No surprise there, shitbird.
LOL.....like far too many Conservatives- all you have is the vocabulary and the imagination of a 12 year old boy at recess.
And like most 12 year old boys- you can't back up your claims.
That statement is a ridiculous lie.The nationality of Obama's father is irrelevant. Natural born status follows place of birth. Both of Obama's parents could have been foreign nationals and he still would have been a natural born citizen since he was born in Hawaii.
That statement is a ridiculous lie.The nationality of Obama's father is irrelevant. Natural born status follows place of birth. Both of Obama's parents could have been foreign nationals and he still would have been a natural born citizen since he was born in Hawaii.
Wong Kim Ark v U.S said:"The Constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words, either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except insofar as this is done by the affirmative declaration that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." In this as in other respects, it must be interpreted in the light of the common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution. "
Wong Kim Ark v U.S said:The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects.
No worries, I knew your initial post on this was bullshit anyway since it's the right contesting his eligibility. Hell, I'm planning on voting for him in the primary.Despite your self-congratulation, you remain insanely retarded. You made the claim that the left is challenging Cruz's eligibility. You now call me challenging you on that, "a faux question."Who said that? You really are nuts. I challenged to name names. I never restricted it to this thread.Pretty funny since we're both saying the same thing about Cruz and the term, "natural born citizen.'
Where we differ on this issue is that you still haven't shown who on the left thinks Cruz is ineligible due to being born in Canada. Everyone in this thread alone arguing that position is on the right.
Look at Fauny. He now wants to pretend that this is the only thread that has ever mentioned the "issue" of Ted Cruz' eligibility to be President.
You ran like a pussy.
Which, btw, answered for you.
Your faux question is and was irrelevant. You "challenge" me to name the names of some of your fellow lolberals who have taken to claiming that Cruz is somehow ineligible? LOL.
Gee. For some reason, I think a half wit like you could find out on your own. But upon your invitation to prove up for you that some of your fellow libs are making that asshole claim, I think I'll just invite you to eat shit.
You wouldn't make use of the information anyway. You are a gutless dishonest pigdog pussy.
Right?
Of course I am.
Which everyone one reading this can understand is your cowardly avoidance of answering it since you're an imbecile who just can't recognize that protests over Cruz's eligibility are coming from the right.
As I pointed out to you already, I have seen posts from members of this board from the left side of the political spectrum who HAVE made that taunting and rather silly claim.
Your "challenge" to me is of no interest to me. Believe it. Don't believe it. I don't have any interest in attempting to prove what I have read on this board to the likes of you.
Facts remain facts whether you have seen the evidence or not -- or admit them or not.
I will concede that most if not all of the attacks on Cruz have come -- in this thread -- from those on the more or less right. Political infighting and posturing. Ho hum. But just because that is the case for THIS thread doesn't mean it is universally true on this message Board.
You remain quite insignificant and your complete lack of persuasive ability is already well established. By every post you submit.
Despite your self-congratulation, you remain insanely retarded. You made the claim that the left is challenging Cruz's eligibility. You now call me challenging you on that, "a faux question."Who said that? You really are nuts. I challenged to name names. I never restricted it to this thread.
You ran like a pussy.
Which, btw, answered for you.
Your faux question is and was irrelevant. You "challenge" me to name the names of some of your fellow lolberals who have taken to claiming that Cruz is somehow ineligible? LOL.
Gee. For some reason, I think a half wit like you could find out on your own. But upon your invitation to prove up for you that some of your fellow libs are making that asshole claim, I think I'll just invite you to eat shit.
You wouldn't make use of the information anyway. You are a gutless dishonest pigdog pussy.
Right?
Of course I am.
Which everyone one reading this can understand is your cowardly avoidance of answering it since you're an imbecile who just can't recognize that protests over Cruz's eligibility are coming from the right.
As I pointed out to you already, I have seen posts from members of this board from the left side of the political spectrum who HAVE made that taunting and rather silly claim.
Well the nebulous 'left' you claim to cite isn't here. The birthers and their debunkers are. With Steven the racist conservative being the leading proponent of Cruz being ineligible. And we 'liberals' telling him he doesn't know what he's talking about.
I already said that for the most part (and maybe entirely) you lefties aren't HERE in this thread.
And yes, the racist piece of crap Steve Is one of the mutts making the claim here in this thread.
I congratulate you HERE for telling a schmuck like Steve that he doesn't have the foggiest damn notion of what he's yammering about. He is not just a mindless racist twat, but he's also wrong on this topic in this thread. (He's almost always wrong no matter what thread he's in, but that's just him).
No worries, I knew your initial post on this was bullshit anyway since it's the right contesting his eligibility. Hell, I'm planning on voting for him in the primary.Despite your self-congratulation, you remain insanely retarded. You made the claim that the left is challenging Cruz's eligibility. You now call me challenging you on that, "a faux question."Who said that? You really are nuts. I challenged to name names. I never restricted it to this thread.Look at Fauny. He now wants to pretend that this is the only thread that has ever mentioned the "issue" of Ted Cruz' eligibility to be President.
You ran like a pussy.
Which, btw, answered for you.
Your faux question is and was irrelevant. You "challenge" me to name the names of some of your fellow lolberals who have taken to claiming that Cruz is somehow ineligible? LOL.
Gee. For some reason, I think a half wit like you could find out on your own. But upon your invitation to prove up for you that some of your fellow libs are making that asshole claim, I think I'll just invite you to eat shit.
You wouldn't make use of the information anyway. You are a gutless dishonest pigdog pussy.
Right?
Of course I am.
Which everyone one reading this can understand is your cowardly avoidance of answering it since you're an imbecile who just can't recognize that protests over Cruz's eligibility are coming from the right.
As I pointed out to you already, I have seen posts from members of this board from the left side of the political spectrum who HAVE made that taunting and rather silly claim.
Your "challenge" to me is of no interest to me. Believe it. Don't believe it. I don't have any interest in attempting to prove what I have read on this board to the likes of you.
Facts remain facts whether you have seen the evidence or not -- or admit them or not.
I will concede that most if not all of the attacks on Cruz have come -- in this thread -- from those on the more or less right. Political infighting and posturing. Ho hum. But just because that is the case for THIS thread doesn't mean it is universally true on this message Board.
You remain quite insignificant and your complete lack of persuasive ability is already well established. By every post you submit.
Fortunately for Obama, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office isn't an authority on Obama's birth certificate.That can't be determined since the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office found his birth certificate to be a 100% forgery.A lie. Ankeny v Daniels was not about presidential eligibility.Because he was not born in the USA to parents who were US Citizens.And why wouldn't he be a natural born citizen of the United States?
See, Vattel's Law of Nations.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Obama was ruled to be eligible as a natural born citizen by an Indiana court, which referenced Wok Kim Ark.
.
He wasn't born in Kenya.
No
No worries, I knew your initial post on this was bullshit anyway since it's the right contesting his eligibility. Hell, I'm planning on voting for him in the primary.Despite your self-congratulation, you remain insanely retarded. You made the claim that the left is challenging Cruz's eligibility. You now call me challenging you on that, "a faux question."Who said that? You really are nuts. I challenged to name names. I never restricted it to this thread.Look at Fauny. He now wants to pretend that this is the only thread that has ever mentioned the "issue" of Ted Cruz' eligibility to be President.
You ran like a pussy.
Which, btw, answered for you.
Your faux question is and was irrelevant. You "challenge" me to name the names of some of your fellow lolberals who have taken to claiming that Cruz is somehow ineligible? LOL.
Gee. For some reason, I think a half wit like you could find out on your own. But upon your invitation to prove up for you that some of your fellow libs are making that asshole claim, I think I'll just invite you to eat shit.
You wouldn't make use of the information anyway. You are a gutless dishonest pigdog pussy.
Right?
Of course I am.
Which everyone one reading this can understand is your cowardly avoidance of answering it since you're an imbecile who just can't recognize that protests over Cruz's eligibility are coming from the right.
As I pointed out to you already, I have seen posts from members of this board from the left side of the political spectrum who HAVE made that taunting and rather silly claim.
Your "challenge" to me is of no interest to me. Believe it. Don't believe it. I don't have any interest in attempting to prove what I have read on this board to the likes of you.
Facts remain facts whether you have seen the evidence or not -- or admit them or not.
I will concede that most if not all of the attacks on Cruz have come -- in this thread -- from those on the more or less right. Political infighting and posturing. Ho hum. But just because that is the case for THIS thread doesn't mean it is universally true on this message Board.
You remain quite insignificant and your complete lack of persuasive ability is already well established. By every post you submit.
Despite your self-congratulation, you remain insanely retarded. You made the claim that the left is challenging Cruz's eligibility. You now call me challenging you on that, "a faux question."Who said that? You really are nuts. I challenged to name names. I never restricted it to this thread.
You ran like a pussy.
Which, btw, answered for you.
Your faux question is and was irrelevant. You "challenge" me to name the names of some of your fellow lolberals who have taken to claiming that Cruz is somehow ineligible? LOL.
Gee. For some reason, I think a half wit like you could find out on your own. But upon your invitation to prove up for you that some of your fellow libs are making that asshole claim, I think I'll just invite you to eat shit.
You wouldn't make use of the information anyway. You are a gutless dishonest pigdog pussy.
Right?
Of course I am.
Which everyone one reading this can understand is your cowardly avoidance of answering it since you're an imbecile who just can't recognize that protests over Cruz's eligibility are coming from the right.
As I pointed out to you already, I have seen posts from members of this board from the left side of the political spectrum who HAVE made that taunting and rather silly claim.
Well the nebulous 'left' you claim to cite isn't here. The birthers and their debunkers are. With Steven the racist conservative being the leading proponent of Cruz being ineligible. And we 'liberals' telling him he doesn't know what he's talking about.
I already said that for the most part (and maybe entirely) you lefties aren't HERE in this thread.
And yes, the racist piece of crap Steve Is one of the mutts making the claim here in this thread.
Despite your self-congratulation, you remain insanely retarded. You made the claim that the left is challenging Cruz's eligibility. You now call me challenging you on that, "a faux question."Your faux question is and was irrelevant. You "challenge" me to name the names of some of your fellow lolberals who have taken to claiming that Cruz is somehow ineligible? LOL.
Gee. For some reason, I think a half wit like you could find out on your own. But upon your invitation to prove up for you that some of your fellow libs are making that asshole claim, I think I'll just invite you to eat shit.
You wouldn't make use of the information anyway. You are a gutless dishonest pigdog pussy.
Right?
Of course I am.
Which everyone one reading this can understand is your cowardly avoidance of answering it since you're an imbecile who just can't recognize that protests over Cruz's eligibility are coming from the right.
As I pointed out to you already, I have seen posts from members of this board from the left side of the political spectrum who HAVE made that taunting and rather silly claim.
Well the nebulous 'left' you claim to cite isn't here. The birthers and their debunkers are. With Steven the racist conservative being the leading proponent of Cruz being ineligible. And we 'liberals' telling him he doesn't know what he's talking about.
I already said that for the most part (and maybe entirely) you lefties aren't HERE in this thread.
And yes, the racist piece of crap Steve Is one of the mutts making the claim here in this thread.
I congratulate you HERE for telling a schmuck like Steve that he doesn't have the foggiest damn notion of what he's yammering about. He is not just a mindless racist twat, but he's also wrong on this topic in this thread. (He's almost always wrong no matter what thread he's in, but that's just him).
So you are just a troll who spews out crap and then runs away.
Not a shock.
Fortunately for Obama, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office isn't an authority on Obama's birth certificate.That can't be determined since the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office found his birth certificate to be a 100% forgery.A lie. Ankeny v Daniels was not about presidential eligibility.Because he was not born in the USA to parents who were US Citizens.
See, Vattel's Law of Nations.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Obama was ruled to be eligible as a natural born citizen by an Indiana court, which referenced Wok Kim Ark.
.
He wasn't born in Kenya.
No
