Is the GOP intentionally preventing a recovery?

[Toddsterpatriot]

BTW, those people who pay no federal INCOME tax pay so much in payroll taxes and fees that they are in the same tax rate as the bloated mega rich. The feds now collect more in payroll taxes and fees than income tax. for the first time. BS voodoo economics is ruining the non rich and the country. It's a GD BS cult now- ideologue idiocy, with the mega rich killing the non rich as they always do under default pub rates, etc.

Ummmmm.....in what remedial math class is 7.65% the same tax rate as the mega rich, top marginal rate of 35%?

 

[bripat9643]

I'm really amazed I've asked this question multiple times yet no leftist here seems capable of answering it..... Define "RICH" Define "VERY RICH" where do you draw the line between Middle income and "rich" to hear the Failure in the White House it's people or family who make 250K and they Fly their very own Jet's that comes as a bit of a shock to me.

"Rich" is 25% more than whatever the lib you're talking to makes.

 

[kaz]

Republicans are two groups: the mega rich elitist Pubs and their bought off minions(evil, worker screwing bastids), and the lovely, ignorant, careless, myth believing DUPES- many of them racists and Foxbots....tyvm

Sure, the only equality is liberal equality.

If you believe blacks should have the same rules as everyone else, you are a racist.

If you believe women should have the same rules as everyone else, you are a sexist.

If you believe people should be treated the same no matter how much money they make, you are rich or their minion. Imagine thinking the "rich" should be treated like everyone else, it's just moronic.

So, if you were a German who thought Jews shouldn't be put in pogroms and gas chambers, that makes you a Jew, doesn't it? Or does your liberal logic change again for that one, Vladimir?

 

[bripat9643]

I think people making over a million per year are rich. I think people making over 10 million a year are very rich.

Other than pure whim, what's the rational basis for this assessment?

is $900,000 / year "rich?"

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

You're right, the shyttehead Booooshies screwed up the economy worse than anyone thought. Great job, Georgie and Dick!

 

[bripat9643]

Greece is the end result of what Obama's Marxist policies will get us.

And you're the end result of what retard procreation will get us.[/QUOTE]

True. Those "retards" are what people here call "liberals."

 

[Trajan]

Is the GOP intentionally preventing a recovery?

Given that economic improvement would interfere with their top priority, presumably yes.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc]Top Priority[/ame]

you once accused some here (and to an extent, rightly so) that using the old ; "We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it" was just news byte red meat absent context........

back at ya.

 

[DontBeStupid]

BTW, those people who pay no federal INCOME tax pay so much in payroll taxes and fees that they are in the same tax rate as the bloated mega rich. The feds now collect more in payroll taxes and fees than income tax. for the first time. BS voodoo economics is ruining the non rich and the country. It's a GD BS cult now- ideologue idiocy, with the mega rich killing the non rich as they always do under default pub rates, etc.

Ummmmm.....in what remedial math class is 7.65% the same tax rate as the mega rich, top marginal rate of 35%?

35% is for cash income only above $379,000. When was the last time you head of a CEO getting paid $4M in cash? You don't. That's because they get stocks, and the dividends on qualified stocks is taxed at only 15%. Plus, they'll wait a year to sell those stocks, and then the gains are only taxed 15% as well.

Add to that to their lower burden of payroll taxes, and you start to get the picture of how the wealthy are under taxed.

 

[kaz]

I think people making over a million per year are rich. I think people making over 10 million a year are very rich.

Other than pure whim, what's the rational basis for this assessment?

is $900,000 / year "rich?"

What a system. We have a vote as to what's enough money and then punish people who make more then that. Oh, but only because it's "fair."

 

[bripat9643]

I don't believe that people making 250k would be taxed at the same rate as people making 10 million.

Why not? What's fair about charging one person one rate and another person another rate?

 

[bripat9643]

Show how Greece's policies are 'Marxist'.

Do you even know what Marxist means?

Yes, it means economic policies endorsed by Karl Marx. A graduated income tax is one of them. In fact, Marx would endorse virtually every plank of the Democrat platform.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Republicans are two groups: the mega rich elitist Pubs and their bought off minions(evil, worker screwing bastids), and the lovely, ignorant, careless, myth believing DUPES- many of them racists and Foxbots....tyvm

I would say the two groups are:

Mega rich elitists, and
People under the false impression that they too will some day be a mega rich elitist.

 

[kaz]

I don't believe that people making 250k would be taxed at the same rate as people making 10 million.

Why not? What's fair about charging one person one rate and another person another rate?

Government achieves equality through the unequal treatment of it's own citizens, that doesn't make sense to you?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

BTW, those people who pay no federal INCOME tax pay so much in payroll taxes and fees that they are in the same tax rate as the bloated mega rich. The feds now collect more in payroll taxes and fees than income tax. for the first time. BS voodoo economics is ruining the non rich and the country. It's a GD BS cult now- ideologue idiocy, with the mega rich killing the non rich as they always do under default pub rates, etc.

Ummmmm.....in what remedial math class is 7.65% the same tax rate as the mega rich, top marginal rate of 35%?

35% is for cash income only above $379,000. When was the last time you head of a CEO getting paid $4M in cash? You don't. That's because they get stocks, and the dividends on qualified stocks is taxed at only 15%. Plus, they'll wait a year to sell those stocks, and then the gains are only taxed 15% as well.

Add to that to their lower burden of payroll taxes, and you start to get the picture of how the wealthy are under taxed.

If a nasty CEO gets a $1,000,000 stock grant, they're taxed on $1,000,000.
You are correct that dividends and capital gains are 15%.
Which is still higher than 7.65%.

 

[bripat9643]

How would taxing the rich more not reduce the deficit? Seriously, are you high or something?

For one thing, the rich have ways of sheltering their income from taxation, like moving it overseas. The higher the tax rate, the more effort is expended avoiding taxation. These efforts are usually bad for the economy.

Taxing the rich means less investment in the economy. You don't make the economy grow by confiscating the means to make it grow.

It's truly sad that such obvious realities have to constantly be explained to libturds.

 

[kaz]

Republicans are two groups: the mega rich elitist Pubs and their bought off minions(evil, worker screwing bastids), and the lovely, ignorant, careless, myth believing DUPES- many of them racists and Foxbots....tyvm

I would say the two groups are:

Mega rich elitists, and
People under the false impression that they too will some day be a mega rich elitist.

True, Obama did kill that dream...

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

Greece has a cheating oligarchy that bribes its way out of taxes, and many thanks to Goldman Sachs for helping them to avoid showing and their debt and helping them to buy toxic bundles.

Google payroll tax vs income tax and educate yourself, pub dupe- and not FOX, duh...

 

[kaz]

Greece has a cheating oligarchy that bribes its way out of taxes, and many thanks to Goldman Sachs for helping them to avoid showing and their debt and helping them to buy toxic bundles.

Google payroll tax vs income tax and educate yourself, pub dupe- and not FOX, duh...

Fox really has screwed up our political system. People having easy access to non-liberal views just confuses them and makes them think silly things like that government can't run our lives better then we can. It really needs to be stopped...

 

[bripat9643]

How would you and your like-minded sheeple paying something, anything not help?

Like I said, start paying your fair share and cut spending, then get back to me on confiscating more of other people's money.

Notice how the left is avoiding that line of reasoning

It's not confiscation, it's taxation. And it's not their money if it is owed in taxes.

ROFL! There's no practical or moral difference between taxation and confiscation. It is your money regardless of whether the government decides to take it.

 

[kaz]

Notice how the left is avoiding that line of reasoning

It's not confiscation, it's taxation. And it's not their money if it is owed in taxes.

ROFL! There's no practical or moral difference between taxation and confiscation. It is your money regardless of whether the government decides to take it.

Well let's see. You earned the money, the government has the power to take it by force. You don't see that as an equal moral claim?