TemplarKormac
Political Atheist
Hamas officials encouraging people to stand up to Israeli aggression, is not using human shields.
Did you watch the video or just read the title? Come now. Be honest.
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Hamas officials encouraging people to stand up to Israeli aggression, is not using human shields.
None of that shows a rocket being fired from a civilian structure
So you're saying they had a civil war WHILE they were forming a Unity government?Your previous posts are not grounded in the real timeline. The Civil War between Palis occurred BEFORE any major Israeli excursions back into Gaza. The promising Pali Authority was ruined BEFORE any major Israeli excursions into Gaza. If ya wanna do fictionalized accounts of this history -- feel free. But you're wasting your time.
THIS post shows that you really don't care what the folks who live in occupied hell think or want. No place for their opinions in your accounts of US/Israeli atrocities against them. You're observation is irrelevent to the poll. Guess the people who's communities were being destroyed didn't care a wit about Hamas's "feelings". That seems to be your baggage.
I've seen the video before and he's not saying what you claim.Did you watch the video or just read the title? Come now. Be honest.
For people to believe the Israeli's are not barbarians?It doesn't have to be "from" a civilian structure, it needs only be near it.
You're trying to rationalize the deliberate murder of innocent civilians.Putting the rocket platforms on the roofs of these buildings would be a little too... obvious. Israel wouldn't bother. I mean, that's what rotary cannons are made for.
That's not what I said. I said an occupational force, cannot claim self defense.Didn't you just get through telling me Israel had no right to defend itself? Hmm?
Israel to honor international law.When you're launching rockets from densely populated civilian areas, what can you expect?
They weren't crammed and they weren't ordered, that's where they lived. And rockets weren't fired from there, just near there. That's not a human shield definition.So they were. That's an obvious contradiction. Either they were crammed in there, or they were ordered to stay in their homes while Hamas set up shop and began firing rockets from there. Presto! Human shields.
Just don't.
For people to believe the Israeli's are not barbarians?
You're trying to rationalize the deliberate murder of innocent civilians.
That's not what I said. I said an occupational force, cannot claim self defense.
They weren't crammed and they weren't ordered, that's where they lived. And rockets weren't fired from there, just near there. That's not a human shield definition.
I've seen the video before and he's not saying what you claim.Did you watch the video or just read the title? Come now. Be honest.
So you're saying they had a civil war WHILE they were forming a Unity government?Your previous posts are not grounded in the real timeline. The Civil War between Palis occurred BEFORE any major Israeli excursions back into Gaza. The promising Pali Authority was ruined BEFORE any major Israeli excursions into Gaza. If ya wanna do fictionalized accounts of this history -- feel free. But you're wasting your time.
THIS post shows that you really don't care what the folks who live in occupied hell think or want. No place for their opinions in your accounts of US/Israeli atrocities against them. You're observation is irrelevent to the poll. Guess the people who's communities were being destroyed didn't care a wit about Hamas's "feelings". That seems to be your baggage.
That's nonsense!
I think we need to take a short trip down memory lane...No, because I don't wear one. Focus, Billo, focus. You're chained to the post of what people call "revisionist history."
The occupation is not a debatable issue. That's what it has been for almost 50 years and you're not changing its definition now.That's rather hard to believe, after all the times you've called Israel an occupier.
I didn't say that.How you're so convinced that Israel is full of evil, heartless killers.
This is not a war.War is wrought with the same kind of propaganda, the most basic type.
Why all the red herrings?"They're all evil, we're not! So join us and help us kill them!"
Again, the occupation is not a debatable issue.Don't delude yourself. I've been studying the conflict for almost six years now. The first thing I normally hear from the other side is "they're occupiers!" and then they're swiftly embarrassed by the actual facts of the matter.
This is not an either/or issue. There are more choices to consider thanYou can't prove that. If none of them were terrorists, then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that Hamas or Hezbollah wouldn't exist? You seriously can't expect me to think all of them are perfect little angels who can do no wrong, can you? That none of them would ever stoop to becoming terrorists? I can't help but laugh.
You're repeating yourself.Likewise, you can't prove what Israel did was terrorism.
I didn't say that.So, like I said before, Israel to you can't defend itself, any act of that sort may very well be terrorism in your eyes.
I didn't say that either. Why do you keep misquoting me?This is like a woman who's been raped being the criminal for popping a cap in the rapists head in self defense. That's your logic.
Then why is Israel always the one breaking the ceasefires?What you fail to see is that Hamas wants conflict with Israel, they don't want a cessation in hostility. Simply ceasing the attacks would save countless lives.
I didn't say that either. Why do you keep misquoting me?
This is not an either/or issue. There are more choices to consider than
1) Hamas are terrorists or 2) Hamas are not terrorists.
1) They are perfect little angels or 2) they are devils
1) They're either all terrorists or 2) they are not terrorists
BTW, I have proven Israeli attacks on Gaza is terrorism. Sanctioned by the Israeli government.
BTW, I have proven Israeli attacks on Gaza is terrorism. Sanctioned by the Israeli government.
I think we need to take a short trip down memory lane...
This little sidebar started when you said:
"I predicted you would get heated under the collar, and you did."
And I said:
"You're looking under the wrong collar."
Then you replied:
"I don't wear collars."
At which point, I reminded you:
"Focus. You weren't talking about your collars."
Now you're saying I'm the one who revises history?
So you tell me, when you said:
"I predicted you would get heated under the collar, and you did."
Who's collar were you referring to?
You're trying to revise the definition of a "human shield" to avoid people seeing Israel in a bad light, but say I'm the propagandist?Just as I predicted. Typical propagandist.
These are barbarians...I know barbarism when I see it. The actual barbarians are sacrificing their own people to win a war they have no hope of winning.
The people who were in the building that was bombed, were not the people who launched the rocket.How is it murder when the murderers are launching rockets in or around the homes of civilians on purpose to draw Israeli fire? Are you really that naive? Are you trying to rationalize that? Those civilians aren't defending anything, they aren't fighting back, they are being used as meat shields, tools for a propaganda war. That is nothing but a full blown atrocity.
I'm not on any side.I'm sorry, but I'll flatly tell you you're on the wrong side.
I think I was pretty clear on who the occupational force was, so why ask that question?So who does this "occupational force" belong to?
Israel. One in the same. Let's not parse words, Billo.
I'm not on any side.
I think I was pretty clear on who the occupational force was, so why ask that question?
The people who were in the building that was bombed, were not the people who launched the rocket.