Israel attacks civilians

[JStone]

Israeli occupation

Israel has been occupying Israel for 3000 years


Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel

In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.

Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. B.C.E.
The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

PBS Nova ...

In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvg2EZAEw5c]1/13 The Bible's Buried Secrets (NOVA PBS) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel has been occupying Israel for 3000 years

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7_ib_9tkSM]Palestine Before Israel - Maps - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

BTW, you never did post a 1948 map of Israel.

 

[JStone]

Eminent Historian Bernard Lewis

The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying with the larger province of Syria

The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1922-1948]

It is by now commonplace that the civilizations of the Middle East are oldest known to human history. They go back thousands of years, much older than the civilizations of India and China, not to speak of other upstart places. It is also interesting, though now often forgotten, that the ancient civilizations of the Middle East were almost totally obliterated and forgotten by their own people as well as by others. Their monuments were defaced or destroyed, their languages forgotten, their scripts forgotten, their history forgotten and even their identities forgotten.

All that was known about them came from one single source, and that is Israel, the only component of the ancient Middle East to have retained their identity, their memory, their language and their books. For a very long time, up to comparatively modern times, with rare exceptions all that was known about the ancient Middle East--the Babylonians, the Egyptians and the rest--was what the Jewish tradiiton has preserved.

American Library Association

"For more than four decades, Bernard Lewis has been one of the most respected scholars and prolific writers on the history and politics of the Middle East. In this compilation of more than 50 journal articles and essays, he displays the full range of his eloquence, knowledge, and insight regarding this pivotal and volatile region."
Oxford University Press: Faith and Power: Bernard Lewis

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

A legitimate state must have territory inside defined borders.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

 

[JStone]

A legitimate state must have territory inside defined borders.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

The Bible has the map.

Where is the 1948 map of Egypt, PFucktard? Where is this fictional palestine in the Bible? In the Quran?

 

[P F Tinmore]

A legitimate state must have territory inside defined borders.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

The Bible has the map.

Where is the 1948 map of Egypt, PFucktard? Where is this fictional palestine in the Bible? In the Quran?

Deflection.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

 

[JStone]

A legitimate state must have territory inside defined borders.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

The Bible has the map.

Where is the 1948 map of Egypt, PFucktard? Where is this fictional palestine in the Bible? In the Quran?

Deflection.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

The 3000 year old Bible created in Israel has the most accurate map.

Where, again, is that 1948 map of Egypt? Where is this fictional palestine in the Bible? The Quran?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Many maps of Palestine yet you cannot post one single 1948 map of Israel.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7_ib_9tkSM]Palestine Before Israel - Maps - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A legitimate state must have territory inside defined borders.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

And they have to control their borders.
When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

 

[JStone]

Eminent Historian Bernard Lewis

The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying with the larger province of Syria

The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1922-1948]

It is by now commonplace that the civilizations of the Middle East are oldest known to human history. They go back thousands of years, much older than the civilizations of India and China, not to speak of other upstart places. It is also interesting, though now often forgotten, that the ancient civilizations of the Middle East were almost totally obliterated and forgotten by their own people as well as by others. Their monuments were defaced or destroyed, their languages forgotten, their scripts forgotten, their history forgotten and even their identities forgotten.

All that was known about them came from one single source, and that is Israel, the only component of the ancient Middle East to have retained their identity, their memory, their language and their books. For a very long time, up to comparatively modern times, with rare exceptions all that was known about the ancient Middle East--the Babylonians, the Egyptians and the rest--was what the Jewish tradiiton has preserved.

American Library Association

"For more than four decades, Bernard Lewis has been one of the most respected scholars and prolific writers on the history and politics of the Middle East. In this compilation of more than 50 journal articles and essays, he displays the full range of his eloquence, knowledge, and insight regarding this pivotal and volatile region."
Oxford University Press: Faith and Power: Bernard Lewis

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

A legitimate state must have territory inside defined borders.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

And they have to control their borders.
When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

Where are Israel's borders?

Show me a 1948 map of Israel.

 

[JStone]

A legitimate state must have territory inside defined borders.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

And they have to control their borders.
When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

Where are Israel's borders?

Show me a 1948 map of Israel.

Israel's borders and a map of Israel are in the Bible.

Matthew 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes

Now, why can't I find palestine in the Bible or even the Quran, PFucktard?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A legitimate state must have territory inside defined borders.

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

And they have to control their borders.
When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

Where are Israel's borders?

Show me a 1948 map of Israel.

I already have, your turn.

When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Where, oh where is that map of Israel?

No one seems to have one.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Where, oh where is that map of Israel?

No one seems to have one.

Your turn.

 

[P F Tinmore]

And they have to control their borders.
When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

Where are Israel's borders?

Show me a 1948 map of Israel.

I already have, your turn.

When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

No you haven't. You have not posted a 1948 map of Israel.

BTW, a country does not cease to exist just because it is occupied. Owned is one thing. Occupied is something else.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Where are Israel's borders?

Show me a 1948 map of Israel.

I already have, your turn.

When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

No you haven't. You have not posted a 1948 map of Israel.

BTW, a country does not cease to exist just because it is occupied. Owned is one thing. Occupied is something else.

What country do you imagine was occupied?

 

[JStone]

Where, oh where is that map of Israel?

No one seems to have one.

The map of Israel is in the Bible, the most authoritative source.

Matthew 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes

No fictional palestine in the Bible, however. Nor, in the Quran.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JStone]

Where are Israel's borders?

Show me a 1948 map of Israel.

I already have, your turn.

When did a Palestine that controlled its own borders ever exist?

No you haven't. You have not posted a 1948 map of Israel.

BTW, a country does not cease to exist just because it is occupied. Owned is one thing. Occupied is something else.

You haven't posted a 1948 map of Egypt. You wanna tell Muslim Brotherhood Egypt doesn't exist, Scooter?