Israel's "Right to Exist"?

[Hossfly]

Had the US chosen NOT to invade and occupy two countries which had little to do with the 911 hijackers, murdering, maiming, displacing, and incarcerating millions of innocent Muslims along the way, Major Hasan would've had no reason to turn to terror. If one-third of the citizens of 1948 Palestine had chosen NOT to inflict a Jewish state on their country, 911 itself becomes less likely.

Say your sorry. drivel!

I think its both dangerous and immoral to make excuses for the acts of a mass murder with slogans and cliches’.

It should be clear by now that some ideologically inspired sociopathology is at work when the most heinous and vicious crimes are committed with such regularity within a group adhering to that ideology.

Nothing that I've read could be construed (at least by me), to indicate the actions of Hasan were "insane" or that he was “the victim of empire”, or that we should invent other excuses to provide an allowance for mass murder. In fact, his gun collecting and the distribution of his belongings prior to his mass murder indicated a rational, reasoned thought process… as much as planning a mass murder can be described as rational and reasoned.

History shows repeatedly that otherwise "pious Moslems" seem to have no trouble at all slaughtering infidels (and other moslems) as if they were cattle. This is simply because they have already defined the infidels and those other moslems as the chief cause of islam's ills.

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

Your last sentence proves what I said earlier about apologizing for Muslim violence. Now you are under suspicion, Benedict.

 

[SAYIT]

Had the US chosen NOT to invade and occupy two countries which had little to do with the 911 hijackers, murdering, maiming, displacing, and incarcerating millions of innocent Muslims along the way, Major Hasan would've had no reason to turn to terror. If one-third of the citizens of 1948 Palestine had chosen NOT to inflict a Jewish state on their country, 911 itself becomes less likely.

Say your sorry. drivel!

I think its both dangerous and immoral to make excuses for the acts of a mass murder with slogans and cliches’.

It should be clear by now that some ideologically inspired sociopathology is at work when the most heinous and vicious crimes are committed with such regularity within a group adhering to that ideology.

Nothing that I've read could be construed (at least by me), to indicate the actions of Hasan were "insane" or that he was “the victim of empire”, or that we should invent other excuses to provide an allowance for mass murder. In fact, his gun collecting and the distribution of his belongings prior to his mass murder indicated a rational, reasoned thought process… as much as planning a mass murder can be described as rational and reasoned.

History shows repeatedly that otherwise "pious Moslems" seem to have no trouble at all slaughtering infidels (and other moslems) as if they were cattle. This is simply because they have already defined the infidels and those other moslems as the chief cause of islam's ills.

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

If you open your link you find an article from someone named Heather Wokusch at something called Dissident Voice. Her complaint, that the US Air Force destroyed Iraq's electric grid in an effort to deprive Iraqis of fresh drinking water, is based on what she claims to be an internal Air Force document but when you click the link provided (http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubs/speclist.asp?puborg=AFDC&series=dd), you find nothing at all.

 

[SAYIT]

Yeah! In memorable words of Gabriel Schoenfeld "The FBI's failure to see clear warning signs in the Fort Hood case revives the question of whether it's up to the task of countering terrorism. Before his murderous rampage, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was exchanging e-mails with a radical Yemen-based imam with ties to the 9/11 hijackers. FBI investigators examined intercepts - and, finding that their "content was explainable by his research," concluded "that Hasan was not involved in terrorist activities or terrorist planning." It did not warn the Army of the potential menace."

Had the US chosen NOT to invade and occupy two countries which had little to do with the 911 hijackers, murdering, maiming, displacing, and incarcerating millions of innocent Muslims along the way, Major Hasan would've had no reason to turn to terror. If one-third of the citizens of 1948 Palestine had chosen NOT to inflict a Jewish state on their country, 911 itself becomes less likely.

Say your sorry. drivel!

I think its both dangerous and immoral to make excuses for the acts of a mass murder with slogans and cliches’.

It should be clear by now that some ideologically inspired sociopathology is at work when the most heinous and vicious crimes are committed with such regularity within a group adhering to that ideology.

Nothing that I've read could be construed (at least by me), to indicate the actions of Hasan were "insane" or that he was “the victim of empire”, or that we should invent other excuses to provide an allowance for mass murder. In fact, his gun collecting and the distribution of his belongings prior to his mass murder indicated a rational, reasoned thought process… as much as planning a mass murder can be described as rational and reasoned.

History shows repeatedly that otherwise "pious Moslems" seem to have no trouble at all slaughtering infidels (and other moslems) as if they were cattle. This is simply because they have already defined the infidels and those other moslems as the chief cause of islam's ills.

It is clear that posters such as LoinCloth and GeorgePhilips are also guilty of making "excuses for the acts of a mass murder" by their Jihadist brethren.

 

[Billo_Really]

It is clear that posters such as LoinCloth and GeorgePhilips are also guilty of making "excuses for the acts of a mass murder" by their Jihadist brethren.

How is recalling history in the context from which it occured, making excuses?

Care to explain that one?

 

[georgephillip]

I think its both dangerous and immoral to make excuses for the acts of a mass murder with slogans and cliches’.

It should be clear by now that some ideologically inspired sociopathology is at work when the most heinous and vicious crimes are committed with such regularity within a group adhering to that ideology.

Nothing that I've read could be construed (at least by me), to indicate the actions of Hasan were "insane" or that he was “the victim of empire”, or that we should invent other excuses to provide an allowance for mass murder. In fact, his gun collecting and the distribution of his belongings prior to his mass murder indicated a rational, reasoned thought process… as much as planning a mass murder can be described as rational and reasoned.

History shows repeatedly that otherwise "pious Moslems" seem to have no trouble at all slaughtering infidels (and other moslems) as if they were cattle. This is simply because they have already defined the infidels and those other moslems as the chief cause of islam's ills.

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

"Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison."

It's too bad for you that Hasan didn't kill more people. You could feel better about yourself.

Nidal Malik Hasan was born in Virginia in 1970 to parents who fled the Israeli conquest and illegal occupation of their Palestinian town, Al-Bireh, in 1967. I can mourn Hasan's 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder without excusing how the US deliberately targeted the electrical power grids of Iraq in 1991.

I don't see how it's possible to feel bad about the former without feeling worse about the latter.

 

[georgephillip]

I think its both dangerous and immoral to make excuses for the acts of a mass murder with slogans and cliches’.

It should be clear by now that some ideologically inspired sociopathology is at work when the most heinous and vicious crimes are committed with such regularity within a group adhering to that ideology.

Nothing that I've read could be construed (at least by me), to indicate the actions of Hasan were "insane" or that he was “the victim of empire”, or that we should invent other excuses to provide an allowance for mass murder. In fact, his gun collecting and the distribution of his belongings prior to his mass murder indicated a rational, reasoned thought process… as much as planning a mass murder can be described as rational and reasoned.

History shows repeatedly that otherwise "pious Moslems" seem to have no trouble at all slaughtering infidels (and other moslems) as if they were cattle. This is simply because they have already defined the infidels and those other moslems as the chief cause of islam's ills.

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

Your last sentence proves what I said earlier about apologizing for Muslim violence. Now you are under suspicion, Benedict.

I'm thinking Benedict was a better American than Dick the Draft Dodger, Hoss.

"Born in Connecticut, Arnold was a merchant operating ships on the Atlantic Ocean when the war broke out in 1775. After joining the growing army outside Boston, he distinguished himself through acts of intelligence and bravery..."

"Despite Arnold's successes, he was passed over for promotion by the Continental Congress while other officers claimed credit for some of his accomplishments.[3]

"Adversaries in military and political circles brought charges of corruption or other malfeasance, but most often he was acquitted in formal inquiries.

"Congress investigated his accounts and found he was indebted to Congress after spending much of his own money on the war effort. Frustrated and bitter, Arnold decided to change sides in 1779, and opened secret negotiations with the British."

Benedict Arnold - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How many $ do you suppose the Draft Dodger has earned from the deaths of those 46,900 Iraqi children?

 

[irosie91]

do you have the names of each of the children who supposedly died because of SANCTIONS against the noble government of Saddam Hussein? Of what did they die? where they executed?

 

[georgephillip]

I think its both dangerous and immoral to make excuses for the acts of a mass murder with slogans and cliches’.

It should be clear by now that some ideologically inspired sociopathology is at work when the most heinous and vicious crimes are committed with such regularity within a group adhering to that ideology.

Nothing that I've read could be construed (at least by me), to indicate the actions of Hasan were "insane" or that he was “the victim of empire”, or that we should invent other excuses to provide an allowance for mass murder. In fact, his gun collecting and the distribution of his belongings prior to his mass murder indicated a rational, reasoned thought process… as much as planning a mass murder can be described as rational and reasoned.

History shows repeatedly that otherwise "pious Moslems" seem to have no trouble at all slaughtering infidels (and other moslems) as if they were cattle. This is simply because they have already defined the infidels and those other moslems as the chief cause of islam's ills.

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

If you open your link you find an article from someone named Heather Wokusch at something called Dissident Voice. Her complaint, that the US Air Force destroyed Iraq's electric grid in an effort to deprive Iraqis of fresh drinking water, is based on what she claims to be an internal Air Force document but when you click the link provided (http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubs/speclist.asp?puborg=AFDC&series=dd), you find nothing at all.

Clicking on Heather's "Strategic Attack" link leads to an "Air Force e-Publishing" page with the following apology:

"Sorry, the page you tried to reach does not exist

"You may have used an outdated link or you may have typed the address (URL) incorrectly.
To find what you are looking for please use..."

http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubs/speclist.asp?puborg=AFDC&series=dd

No apologies for the 49,600 Iraqi children that the NEJM claims were victims of the USAF Strategic Attack and ensuing trade sanctions.

 

[georgephillip]

It is clear that posters such as LoinCloth and GeorgePhilips are also guilty of making "excuses for the acts of a mass murder" by their Jihadist brethren.

How is recalling history in the context from which it occured, making excuses?

Care to explain that one?

Some of these damn conservatives have real problems with cause and effect.
The greatest purveyor of violence on earth hasn't changed its stripes since MLK died, and yet, conservatives want to continue blaming the victims of US aggression.

Maybe they should stop making excuses for the War Racket?

 

[georgephillip]

do you have the names of each of the children who supposedly died because of SANCTIONS against the noble government of Saddam Hussein? Of what did they die? where they executed?

Why are you asking for the childrens' names, thinking of sending sympathy cards?
They died from the effects of drinking contaminated water after US bombs destroyed the electrical grid powering Iraq's water treatment plants. The SANCTIONS only made Saddam more powerful, if not less noble. Did Saddam execute children? I don't know, do you? I'm pretty sure he wasn't blowing up electrical grids on the opposite side of the planet for WAR PROFIT$.

 

[SAYIT]

It is clear that posters such as LoinCloth and GeorgePhilips are also guilty of making "excuses for the acts of a mass murder" by their Jihadist brethren.

How is recalling history in the context from which it occured, making excuses?

Care to explain that one?

Sure Princess.
Your process is a lame attempt at "moral equivalence."
America got stuck with the job of planetary policeman because it's better to nip the troubles in the bud than let it fester and explode (see: Darfur, Bosnia and Herzegovina, etc., etc., etc.).
It ain't pretty and it ain't fun and it's a dirty job and sometimes things just don't go as planned but somebody here has to be the adult.
Clearly you are incapable.

 

[SAYIT]

I think its both dangerous and immoral to make excuses for the acts of a mass murder with slogans and cliches’.

It should be clear by now that some ideologically inspired sociopathology is at work when the most heinous and vicious crimes are committed with such regularity within a group adhering to that ideology.

Nothing that I've read could be construed (at least by me), to indicate the actions of Hasan were "insane" or that he was “the victim of empire”, or that we should invent other excuses to provide an allowance for mass murder. In fact, his gun collecting and the distribution of his belongings prior to his mass murder indicated a rational, reasoned thought process… as much as planning a mass murder can be described as rational and reasoned.

History shows repeatedly that otherwise "pious Moslems" seem to have no trouble at all slaughtering infidels (and other moslems) as if they were cattle. This is simply because they have already defined the infidels and those other moslems as the chief cause of islam's ills.

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

Your last sentence proves what I said earlier about apologizing for Muslim violence. Now you are under suspicion, Benedict.

Not suspicion, convicted by his own words. I am amazed and disappointed at how many people, many of whom benefit from the freedoms and opportunities this country provides to so many, can be so one-sided when judging how we provide and protect them.
I am also amazed - but not surprised - that many of those who regularly excoriate America are also anti-Israel/anti-Jew. It's just how they roll.

 

[SAYIT]

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

"Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison."

It's too bad for you that Hasan didn't kill more people. You could feel better about yourself.

Nidal Malik Hasan was born in Virginia in 1970 to parents who fled the Israeli conquest and illegal occupation of their Palestinian town, Al-Bireh, in 1967. I can mourn Hasan's 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder without excusing how the US deliberately targeted the electrical power grids of Iraq in 1991.

I don't see how it's possible to feel bad about the former without feeling worse about the latter.

That's because you see the world through the "America and Americans are evil" prism.
As for your willingness to "mourn Hasan's 13 counts of premeditated murder," you must know that a normal person would mourn the victims of that slaughter, not the charges against the perp.
Finally, do you have a working link to the Air Force document which you claimed proves they deliberately targeted that electric grid to "deprive the Iraqis of fresh water?"
The link in your article doen't work.

 

[SAYIT]

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

If you open your link you find an article from someone named Heather Wokusch at something called Dissident Voice. Her complaint, that the US Air Force destroyed Iraq's electric grid in an effort to deprive Iraqis of fresh drinking water, is based on what she claims to be an internal Air Force document but when you click the link provided (http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubs/speclist.asp?puborg=AFDC&series=dd), you find nothing at all.

Clicking on Heather's "Strategic Attack" link leads to an "Air Force e-Publishing" page with the following apology:

"Sorry, the page you tried to reach does not exist

"You may have used an outdated link or you may have typed the address (URL) incorrectly.
To find what you are looking for please use..."

http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubs/speclist.asp?puborg=AFDC&series=dd

No apologies for the 49,600 Iraqi children that the NEJM claims were victims of the USAF Strategic Attack and ensuing trade sanctions.

That link doesn't work, either. Have you read the Air Force document? Could you post a working link? Thanks.

 

[SAYIT]

It is clear that posters such as LoinCloth and GeorgePhilips are also guilty of making "excuses for the acts of a mass murder" by their Jihadist brethren.

How is recalling history in the context from which it occured, making excuses?

Care to explain that one?

Some of these damn conservatives have real problems with cause and effect.
The greatest purveyor of violence on earth hasn't changed its stripes since MLK died...

Yeah, ok.
Your hate for the US has been duly noted. I wonder which came first: Your hate for America or your hate for Israel?

 

[SAYIT]

do you have the names of each of the children who supposedly died because of SANCTIONS against the noble government of Saddam Hussein? Of what did they die? where they executed?

Why are you asking for the childrens' names, thinking of sending sympathy cards?
They died from the effects of drinking contaminated water ...

Could you offer some support for your claim that over 46,000 Iraqi children died as a direct result of drinking dirty water? It seems to me your hate for this country should motivate you to move somewhere you might feel more comfortable. There are millions who would gladly trade places with you.

 

[SAYIT]

The last 67 years of history shows repeatedly how Christians, pious and otherwise, are willing to slaughter thousands of children on the opposite side of the planet for a paycheck. Major Hasan committed his crime against soldiers which makes it slightly less reprehensible than American crimes committed during Desert Storm, a time period Hasan earned medals in.

"Case in point. Article 54 of the Geneva Conventions clearly states that destroying or rendering useless items essential to the survival of civilian populations is illegal under international law and a war crime.

"Hard then to explain the 1991 US bombing of electrical grids that powered 1,410 water-treatment plants for Iraq's 22 million people.

"An excerpt from a 1998 US Air Force document, entitled 'Strategic Attack,' chillingly explains: 'The electrical attacks proved extremely effective ... The loss of electricity shut down the capital's water treatment plants and led to a public health crisis from raw sewage dumped in the Tigris River.'

"A second US Defense Intelligence Agency document, 1991's 'Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities,' predicted how sanctions would then be used to prevent Iraq from getting the equipment and chemicals necessary for water purification, which would result in 'a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population' leading to 'increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease.'"

46,900 Iraqi children died due to US bombs and UN sanctions.
Hasan's slaughter seems almost charitable by comparison.

Material Breach: US Crimes in Iraq

Your last sentence proves what I said earlier about apologizing for Muslim violence. Now you are under suspicion, Benedict.

I'm thinking Benedict was a better American than Dick the Draft Dodger, Hoss.

"Born in Connecticut, Arnold was a merchant operating ships on the Atlantic Ocean when the war broke out in 1775. After joining the growing army outside Boston, he distinguished himself through acts of intelligence and bravery..."

"Despite Arnold's successes, he was passed over for promotion by the Continental Congress while other officers claimed credit for some of his accomplishments.[3]

"Adversaries in military and political circles brought charges of corruption or other malfeasance, but most often he was acquitted in formal inquiries.

"Congress investigated his accounts and found he was indebted to Congress after spending much of his own money on the war effort. Frustrated and bitter, Arnold decided to change sides in 1779, and opened secret negotiations with the British."

Benedict Arnold - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How many $ do you suppose the Draft Dodger has earned from the deaths of those 46,900 Iraqi children?

While historians do indeed quibble over Arnold's legacy, the word "Benedict" has long meant "traitor" in this country. Are you new here?

 

[Theseus]

For one Israel has the right to be a state mainly because of its historical value. Israel was originally the holy land of the Hebrews. And what other reason would it need. Why shouldn't it be a state is one thing I would like to hear from somebody?

 

[Billo_Really]

For one Israel has the right to be a state mainly because of its historical value. Israel was originally the holy land of the Hebrews. And what other reason would it need. Why shouldn't it be a state is one thing I would like to hear from somebody?

States don't have rights, people do!

And the Pals have just as much right to have a nation of their own.

 

[Billo_Really]

Yeah, ok.
Your hate for the US has been duly noted. I wonder which came first: Your hate for America or your hate for Israel?

Explain why I would hate the US and Israel?