It's OK republicans Trump won't be here

[Meister]

Yep 0 interest rates and QE (ie printing money) was how they kept Obama from looking bad.......his policies were attrocious

Might have kept us out of depression Sometimes with you braying republican coyotes I wish a depression on you Like I said before ,you should be kissing Obama's ass instead of bashing him

You're deflecting from the posts.....nearly 8 years of fed rate where they were.....even after the the recession was over.
Obama ran up our debt by nearly 10 trillion dollars.....and not a peep from you. You were spoon fed what to think from your masters, Ed.

OH ??? When the recession was over the 800,000 that lost jobs under GWB in JUST HIS LAST MONTH went back to work and all the millions of others did too??? I didn't know that

Neighborhood of 10 TRILLION DOLLARS?
The Feds infused over 4 trillion to prop up the economy over 8 years, Ed.
Obama's economy wasn't that strong, it was anemic.
Now go get your talking points from your masters.

Seems to me young man you get a few talking points from yours Obama left the POS trump an upwards rising economy Considerably better than what the Republican left him

Nah, I do something foreign to you....I read a lot.

 

[edward37]

Might have kept us out of depression Sometimes with you braying republican coyotes I wish a depression on you Like I said before ,you should be kissing Obama's ass instead of bashing him

You're deflecting from the posts.....nearly 8 years of fed rate where they were.....even after the the recession was over.
Obama ran up our debt by nearly 10 trillion dollars.....and not a peep from you. You were spoon fed what to think from your masters, Ed.

OH ??? When the recession was over the 800,000 that lost jobs under GWB in JUST HIS LAST MONTH went back to work and all the millions of others did too??? I didn't know that

Neighborhood of 10 TRILLION DOLLARS?
The Feds infused over 4 trillion to prop up the economy over 8 years, Ed.
Obama's economy wasn't that strong, it was anemic.
Now go get your talking points from your masters.

Seems to me young man you get a few talking points from yours Obama left the POS trump an upwards rising economy Considerably better than what the Republican left him

Nah, I do something foreign to you....I read a lot.

Do you now??/ I read a book a week down on the beach Love reading what an AH your choice of president was, is, and will always be

 

[edward37]

Might have kept us out of depression Sometimes with you braying republican coyotes I wish a depression on you Like I said before ,you should be kissing Obama's ass instead of bashing him

You're deflecting from the posts.....nearly 8 years of fed rate where they were.....even after the the recession was over.
Obama ran up our debt by nearly 10 trillion dollars.....and not a peep from you. You were spoon fed what to think from your masters, Ed.

OH ??? When the recession was over the 800,000 that lost jobs under GWB in JUST HIS LAST MONTH went back to work and all the millions of others did too??? I didn't know that

Neighborhood of 10 TRILLION DOLLARS?
The Feds infused over 4 trillion to prop up the economy over 8 years, Ed.
Obama's economy wasn't that strong, it was anemic.
Now go get your talking points from your masters.

Seems to me young man you get a few talking points from yours Obama left the POS trump an upwards rising economy Considerably better than what the Republican left him

Nah, I do something foreign to you....I read a lot.

Your punk won't be here? This is the crap you support?
Trump shrugs off future debt crisis: 'I won't be here'

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/.../trump-shrugs-off-future-debt-crisis-i-wont-b...
Dec 5, 2018 - President Trump is dismissing the importance of paying down the national debt, saying he won't be in office to take blame for the nation's fiscal ...
Trump says he doesn't care about predicted US national debt ...

https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics
Dec 6, 2018 - “Yeah, but I won't be here,” Mr Trump remarked, a source who had been in the room at the time told The Daily Beast.
Trump says debt crisis after presidency OK as 'I won't be here': report ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-debt-crisis-fine-wont-be-here-report-2018-12
Dec 6, 2018 - Trump is reportedly not worried about a massive US debt crisis as he'll be ... "Yeah, but I won't be here," according to a source The Daily Beast ...
Does Trump Care About the National Debt? 'I Won't Be Here'

https://moneyandmarkets.com › Economic News
Dec 5, 2018 - President Donald Trump reportedly is unconcerned about the national debt because he won't be in office when it blows up. Are you ...

 

[Dana7360]

Thanks, Obama!

You should kiss Obama's ass He dug us out of another republican, GWBs, shitstorm

$10,000,000,000,000 in new debt

Thanks, Obama!

How is adding 2 trillion dollars by Republicans for tax cuts on Obama?

Why do you people play this game? Really!

Why don't you see if revenue WENT UP, OR DOWN, to the federal government!

If it went down dramatically, you have made your case.

If it went UP, then we need to address the spending side, and what program do you want to kill!

It obviously didn't go up enough to surpass a $2 trillion dollar give away to the rich did it? The federal deficit went up, and it's about to go even higher, because Team Trump is about to ask for another 1$ trillion dollar tax cut. So let's cut out the tax cut spending for the rich that we get nothing for.

I would be surprised if the democrats would give him that tax cut.

 

[AntonToo]

Holy shit people are ignorant.

Deficits don’t just happen because person X is in the whitehouse today.

They are mostly composed of existing policies, revenues that are subject to economic state and tax rates.

High deficits in aftermath of Great Recession? DUH

What the fuck do you think happens when your revenues get cut by 25% and you have to pay out unemployment while trying to prop up economy back to life?

Our long term fiscal problems are based on CHRONIC ADDICTION TO TAX-CUTS and baked in spending in need of reforming.

Economy good? Time for another tax-cut!
Economy bad? Oh-oh better pass a tax-cut!

Like a strung out junkie there are always some bullshit rationalizations to not get clean.

Addiction to tax cuts? The problem is spending...not tax cuts.

Yes addiction to tax-cuts.

Dificts are a difference between spending and revenues. When you keep cutting revenues you are INCREASING DEFICITS.

Republicans pretending like revenues part of the equation doesn't exist is a huge reason why we are in the fiscal shitter - there cannot be a fix here when one side is completely detached from sanity.

 

[AntonToo]

1. If the economy averages 3.4% growth over 22 years, the National debt would disappear.

When did we run 3.4% REAL GDP growth in ANY year, never mind average???

 

[imawhosure]

Why do you people play this game? Really!

Why don't you see if revenue WENT UP, OR DOWN, to the federal government!

If it went down dramatically, you have made your case.

If it went UP, then we need to address the spending side, and what program do you want to kill!

Every tax cut since Reagan has slowed the growth of revenue, that is why tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts are bad for the country.

Really, are you telling everyone on this board that eventhough after the Reagan tax cuts, using inflation adjusted dollars, that the revenue to the government did NOT grow by almost double?

You are kidding all of us, you can NOT be that dumb!

I am telling you that the 10 years prior to the Reagan tax cuts revenue grew at an average of 12.41% per year and the 10 years after it grew at a average of 5.68% per year. These are the facts, what you do with them is up to you.

Well, lookie here, another spinner. You gotta love them.

So tell us Golf, what is larger...…………….10% of a million, or 40% of 100,000?

You being smart and all should know...…….that what Reagan and Kennedy did was----------------> make MORE TAXABLE INCOME by growing the pie larger through economic growth, thus INCREASING tax revenue to Washington, even at a lower rate.

What do we want more, lets see! A larger INCOME at a lower rate, orrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, less income, at a higher rate!

Wait, wait. Are you a closet SJW? That is the only explanation I can come up with; and oh by the way, why don't you look at the historical tax rates, and the amount of GDP they took in before you answer-) That will tell you exactly WHY higher rates do not work-)

so, you choose to ignore the facts and go on a unintelligible rant instead.

I would like to say that I am surprised, but I do not like to lie.

By the way, I am not pushing for a higher tax rate, I am just stating that tax cuts should always be accompanied with spending cuts...but statist like you never want to cut spending.

I am one of those rare individuals that think we should pay for what we spend and not leave it for our kids and grandkids...another idea that I am sure has never entered your little partisan sheep mind.

Hey, I am all for spending cuts, at no time did I ever say I was not. The only thing I pointed out is----------->from Coolidge, to Kennedy, to Reagan, etc...…………...every time taxes were cut, 2 things happened,

1. The economy grew much faster, and.....

2. Receipts to the treasury increased massively.

You can't argue with history, since it has already been written, if you wish to try, be my guest.

Now, if you want to put forth the premise that MORE tax money would have entered the coiffures allowing the government to have an easier time to balance the books if spending was also cut, we can have that conversation. Depending upon how you frame it, I would probably support your supposition, although neither one of us would have much if any historical data to support that premise, and both Left and Right would have a field day with us.

But then, the question has to be asked---------->politically...………….could the Presidents who cut taxes and INCREASED revenue at the same time, have gotten the tax cuts through congress, IF the plan had spending cuts included?

If I am correct, and I am not going to look it up so forgive me...…...under some proposal Reagan put forth, every 2 new dollars in spending, had to be accompanied by 1 dollar in spending cuts. If my historical memory is correct, it passed. Guess what. NEVER HAPPENED!

And on another note a little off topic---------->

Do you know why people many of us...……..especially conservatives are soooooo partisan today?

ANSWER, AND MAYBE THIS WILL ENLIGHTEN YOU ON OUR POSITION----------->

Throughout most of our modern history, anything that was done good or bad in Washington was mostly bipartisan. Coolidge, Reagan, Kennedy tax cuts, all bipartisan. The Clinton expansion...….bipartisan. They all agreed to disagree but compromised, so in the end, they all get credit for the good, and worked together to eliminate the bad.

No longer! Look at Obamacare. Look at the wall. Look at the tax cuts. There is no compromise to keep the country moving any longer, it is "my way, or the highway."

And so, while I am not exactly enthusiastic over everything the right wants to do, if I have to choose between that way and Socialism, you know which way most older Americans are going to go. If BOTH sides would show a little compromise, it would be far easier to pick and choose between the two!

CONSIDER-------->You seem like a deficit hawk to me, so what do you think of this green deal? To stay EXACTLY where we are, the sales tax would have to rise to 90% almost doubling the cost of anything. Sooooooooooo, if the Democrats get control, will we deficit spend like crazy, or raise taxes to that tune? And you know the Democrats will do it, they did Obamacare, and this is just the next step. Both party's move in increments, we both know that, but if one or the other has control and can't be stopped, it is, oh boy!

So for ME, the question has to be--------->what is LESS BAD. Partisan, not really, IF they would go back to COMPROMISE!

 

[Aldo Raine]

$10,000,000,000,000 in new debt

Thanks, Obama!

How is adding 2 trillion dollars by Republicans for tax cuts on Obama?

Why do you people play this game? Really!

Why don't you see if revenue WENT UP, OR DOWN, to the federal government!

If it went down dramatically, you have made your case.

If it went UP, then we need to address the spending side, and what program do you want to kill!

Every tax cut since Reagan has slowed the growth of revenue, that is why tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts are bad for the country.

Really, are you telling everyone on this board that eventhough after the Reagan tax cuts, using inflation adjusted dollars, that the revenue to the government did NOT grow by almost double?

You are kidding all of us, you can NOT be that dumb!

Reagan raised taxes 16 times while in office to raise revenue.

Why yes, yes he did. Do you wonder why? Because trickle down or supply side economics doesn't work for shit. Ask Ray gun and Dubya!

 

[dudmuck]

Debt just hit 22 trillion.
Republican government is soooo small. (small enough to fit in uterus)

 

[blackhawk]

It really cracks me up when idiots complain about the national debt but only do so when the other side is running it up never there’s. Neither party has done anything about the national debt for well over a hundred years I didn’t expect Trump would nor do I expect whoever follows him to.