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* The Nazis more than tolerated homosexuality in their high-ranking circles. In fact, many Nazi founders and leaders were gay. There is evidence that Hitler himself was gay and later bi-sexual. (It's true that the Nazis publicly condemned and persecuted some gays, but this was a smokescreen to hide their own perversion and to target enemies who happened to be gay.)
Ernst Rohlm was the highest ranking ghey Nazi to be killed by Hitler...along with
Holocaust victims - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaHomosexuals and non-heterosexuals were also targets of the Holocaust, as male homosexuality (and, to a lesser extent, female homosexuality) was deemed incompatible with Nazism as the Nazis believed that gay men were weak, effeminate men who could not fight for the German nation and saw homosexuals as unlikely to produce children and increase the German birth-rate.
Rohm was killed because he was a threat to Hitler's power, not because he was a queer. Hitler knew he was gay from the beginning.
I think it's important to note that many of the opinions expressed on this forum don't represent any kind of normal human constituency, these people are anything but a representative cross section of America. There's just a lot of wacky opinions out there, and an internet forum gives weirdos the anonymity they need to express opinions they could never mention in front of normal, functioning people.
But this is standard fare for dittoheads. Jonah Goldberg seared Liberal Fascism into the walls of the Echo Chamber. Oblivious to the Yellow journalism that has been debunked over and over they cling to it like a fairy tale in the night.
Most people know that neither Democrats nor Republican are Nazis.
There's actually nothing to debunk, Goldberg never had anything like a compelling argument to begin with. Revisionist history tainted with ideology smells a lot like horse shit.
You obviously haven't read the book. But when did that ever stop morons from spouting their ignorance?
You obviously don't know anything about history. If you did you would know that one or two ideologically driven authors don't change history. Nazism was a right wing, reactionary movement. There is no controversy about that.
You're a gullible moron and a statist tool. History never changes, but what people know about it does. When someone publishes the facts, that changes people's understanding. Of course a leftwing toady like you will never admit the facts. You're expected to regurgitate the official dogma because that is what supports the regime.
We frequently see liberals on this board and in other venues comparing conservatives to Hitler and the Nazis. This is not only erroneous but very ironic, since the Nazis had much more in common with American liberals than they did with American conservatives. A few points of resemblance between the Nazis and modern American liberals (links will be provided at the end):
* The Nazis hated all traditional religions, especially Christianity and Judaism. (FYI, the Nazis murdered tens of thousands of Christians and thousands of priests and nuns.)
* The Nazis were huge believers in Darwinian evolution, and in fact used it as a major part of their Holocaust ideology.
* The Nazis asserted the right to replace and appoint priests and pastors and/or to shut down churches that they believed were teaching "harmful," "dangerous" principles.
* The Nazis targeted private Christian schools to prevent children from being taught traditional values and beliefs.
* The Nazis insisted on total control over education. All school curricula had to be approved by the national government.
* The Nazis more than tolerated homosexuality in their high-ranking circles. In fact, many Nazi founders and leaders were gay. There is evidence that Hitler himself was gay and later bi-sexual. (It's true that the Nazis publicly condemned and persecuted some gays, but this was a smokescreen to hide their own perversion and to target enemies who happened to be gay.)
* The Nazis believed that the government had the right to regulate or take over any business that it wanted to regulate or own.
* The Nazis rejected traditional values.
* The Nazis sought to impose abortion on women who were "non-Aryan." They had no problem with abortion per se, but they didn't want "pure Aryan women" having abortions. When the Nazis came to power, they loosened Germany's anti-abortion laws.
* The Nazis banned gun ownership for groups they believed posed a threat, especially Jews, and they insisted on national/universal gun registration. Most ordinary German citizens could own guns if they so desired, but the Nazis claimed the right to ban any group or person from owning guns if they felt the need to do so.
* The Nazis rejected federalism/local control and sought to centralize all power in the national government.
So the next time you see some liberal compare conservatives to the Nazis, remind them that Hitler and the Nazis had much more in common with American liberals than they did with American conservatives.
Nazi Policy and the Catholic Church
Articles The Nazis and Christianity
Hitler s Persecution of the Christian Churches
From Darwin to Hitler
Expelled and the Darwinism-Nazi Connection A Response to Jeff Schloss Center for Science and Culture
Darwin and Hitler In Their Own Words Center for Science and Culture
Hitler s Pope The American Spectator
Rome Conference Shatters Myth of Pius XII as Hitler s Pope - Breitbart
Was Hitler a Christian
The Nazi Model For Outcome-Based Education
Obama Agrees with Hitler on Schooling Children
HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST
Hitler and the socialist dream - Arts and Entertainment - The Independent
Non-Jewish Victims of the Holocaust Jewish Virtual Library
The Nazis and Abortion
Hitler Pro-Abortion
Hitler s Leftist Economic Policies
Homosexuality in the Nazi Party
The Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party from The Pink Swastika
New Evidence from His Doctors Shows Hitler Was Gay - Breitbart
National Review
Nazi Gun Control
The Volokh Conspiracy - Adolf Hitler on Federalism
Why did the Nazis control education - The Holocaust Explained Website
Oh poster please. Not the old "Hitler was left wing" Revisionista song and dance again....
You guys in Rewrite trotted this out years ago and got beaten to a pulp. Y'all are a bunch of masochists.
Sorry, but the Earth is in fact round, and no matter how ardently liberals want to believe that Hitler was a right winger, the facts are very well documented. Did you even read the links on Hitler and the Nazis' economic and political views and policies? Did you happen to notice that they specifically address the liberal myth that Hitler was a Christian and that he and the Nazis were conservatives?
And by "beaten to a pulp" you mean you guys repeated your revisionist myths, ignored all contrary facts, and declared yourselves the winners, as you usually do?
I notice you didn't address a single one of the points of resemblance presented in the OP.
We frequently see liberals on this board and in other venues comparing conservatives to Hitler and the Nazis. e
The only ones i have seen doing this recently are Conservatives comparing liberals to Nazi's......
My favorite are the ones who compare public accomodation laws to how the Jews were treated by the Nazi's.
..hitlers hatred of the Christian religion....
Articles The Nazis and Christianity
In 1937 Stephen H. Roberts wrote in his book, The House That Hitler Built, that the hostility between Nazism and churches began as soon as the Nazis came to power, and that it quickly became impossible to be a good Catholic and a good Nazi. Some Nazis were overtly and clearly anti-Christian. Others were simply silent. Hitler, however, did nothing to stop the drumbeat of pagan propaganda within the Nazi Party which included Heinrich Himmler, Baldur von Schirach, Alfred Rosenberg, Dr. Frick and many others, some of whom formally renounced their Christianity.
I get it....you lefties try to put the nazis on the "right" because you don't want every mass murdering government in history to be leftwing....but the truth is the truth....socialists/left wingers murdered close to 100 million people between the international socialists (communists) and the national socialists (nazis and also the italian fascists)
And btw I don't think I've ever heard Hitler described as "a conservative".
Uh... Hitler was on the right...
Rohm and his peers were killed by the SS because they were socialists, and as such a threat to the conservative alliances Hitler was building with the Armed Forces and Big Business.* The Nazis more than tolerated homosexuality in their high-ranking circles. In fact, many Nazi founders and leaders were gay. There is evidence that Hitler himself was gay and later bi-sexual. (It's true that the Nazis publicly condemned and persecuted some gays, but this was a smokescreen to hide their own perversion and to target enemies who happened to be gay.)
Ernst Rohlm was the highest ranking ghey Nazi to be killed by Hitler...along with
Holocaust victims - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaHomosexuals and non-heterosexuals were also targets of the Holocaust, as male homosexuality (and, to a lesser extent, female homosexuality) was deemed incompatible with Nazism as the Nazis believed that gay men were weak, effeminate men who could not fight for the German nation and saw homosexuals as unlikely to produce children and increase the German birth-rate.
Rohm was killed because he was a threat to Hitler's power, not because he was a queer. Hitler knew he was gay from the beginning.
And btw I don't think I've ever heard Hitler described as "a conservative".
Next to Stalin... Hitler was a Conservative. It's an obvious point which defines why Hitler was a NATIONAL SOCIALISTS and not a SOCIALIST.
LOL! But, in fairness... as a member of the Intellectually Less Fortunate... there was no way you could have known THAT!
..hitter was a lefty...read the party doctrine and it is all socialism all the time.....it is amazing how much the left has to lie just to get through the day....sadly for you guys...there is the internet...before, you could lie in our schools and teach your crap to our kids and were never questioned.....all of the truth was locked away in books that people with normal lives would never see.....with the Internet...you get challenged and exposed as the liars you are...which is one reason obama took control of it......
..hitter was a lefty...read the party doctrine and it is all socialism all the time.....it is amazing how much the left has to lie just to get through the day....sadly for you guys...there is the internet...before, you could lie in our schools and teach your crap to our kids and were never questioned.....all of the truth was locked away in books that people with normal lives would never see.....with the Internet...you get challenged and exposed as the liars you are...which is one reason obama took control of it......
..hitter was a lefty...read the party doctrine and it is all socialism all the time.....it is amazing how much the left has to lie just to get through the day....sadly for you guys...there is the internet...before, you could lie in our schools and teach your crap to our kids and were never questioned.....all of the truth was locked away in books that people with normal lives would never see.....with the Internet...you get challenged and exposed as the liars you are...which is one reason obama took control of it......
Your childish declarations do nothing to change actual history.
And what kind of fucking dummy thinks the internet is a reliable source of information? How shallow and stupid would you have to be?
..hitter was a lefty...read the party doctrine and it is all socialism all the time.....it is amazing how much the left has to lie just to get through the day....sadly for you guys...there is the internet...before, you could lie in our schools and teach your crap to our kids and were never questioned.....all of the truth was locked away in books that people with normal lives would never see.....with the Internet...you get challenged and exposed as the liars you are...which is one reason obama took control of it......
Your childish declarations do nothing to change actual history.
And what kind of fucking dummy thinks the internet is a reliable source of information? How shallow and stupid would you have to be?
There's no attempt to change history... The National Socialists are socialists. That they have a variation on the socialist theme, distinct only in the long game of national socialism, from the revolutionary short game of International socialism doesn't make it less than socialism... thus anything other than what it is: Collectivism, OKA: LEFTIST.
To argue otherwise scamp, only makes one appear foolish. Now don't you t least want to be better than that?
yea, sick and tired of this topic,.
Great, for the thousandth time, here we go again.
Those other guys are Nazis.
Yawn.
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..hitter was a lefty...read the party doctrine and it is all socialism all the time.....it is amazing how much the left has to lie just to get through the day....sadly for you guys...there is the internet...before, you could lie in our schools and teach your crap to our kids and were never questioned.....all of the truth was locked away in books that people with normal lives would never see.....with the Internet...you get challenged and exposed as the liars you are...which is one reason obama took control of it......
Your childish declarations do nothing to change actual history.
And what kind of fucking dummy thinks the internet is a reliable source of information? How shallow and stupid would you have to be?
There's no attempt to change history... The National Socialists are socialists. That they have a variation on the socialist theme, distinct only in the long game of national socialism, from the revolutionary short game of International socialism doesn't make it less than socialism... thus anything other than what it is: Collectivism, OKA: LEFTIST.
To argue otherwise scamp, only makes one appear foolish. Now don't you t least want to be better than that?
There are no legitimate historians anywhere who would in any way validate your ideologically motivated nonsense.
* The Nazis more than tolerated homosexuality in their high-ranking circles. In fact, many Nazi founders and leaders were gay. There is evidence that Hitler himself was gay and later bi-sexual. (It's true that the Nazis publicly condemned and persecuted some gays, but this was a smokescreen to hide their own perversion and to target enemies who happened to be gay.)
Ernst Rohlm was the highest ranking ghey Nazi to be killed by Hitler...along with
Holocaust victims - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaHomosexuals and non-heterosexuals were also targets of the Holocaust, as male homosexuality (and, to a lesser extent, female homosexuality) was deemed incompatible with Nazism as the Nazis believed that gay men were weak, effeminate men who could not fight for the German nation and saw homosexuals as unlikely to produce children and increase the German birth-rate.
Rohm was killed because he was a threat to Hitler's power, not because he was a queer. Hitler knew he was gay from the beginning.
But Hitler used that as part of his excuse to get rid of Rohm.
But this is standard fare for dittoheads. Jonah Goldberg seared Liberal Fascism into the walls of the Echo Chamber. Oblivious to the Yellow journalism that has been debunked over and over they cling to it like a fairy tale in the night.
Most people know that neither Democrats nor Republican are Nazis.
There's actually nothing to debunk, Goldberg never had anything like a compelling argument to begin with. Revisionist history tainted with ideology smells a lot like horse shit.
You obviously haven't read the book. But when did that ever stop morons from spouting their ignorance?
You obviously don't know anything about history. If you did you would know that one or two ideologically driven authors don't change history. Nazism was a right wing, reactionary movement. There is no controversy about that.
You're a gullible moron and a statist tool. History never changes, but what people know about it does. When someone publishes the facts, that changes people's understanding. Of course a leftwing toady like you will never admit the facts. You're expected to regurgitate the official dogma because that is what supports the regime.
Official dogma? Is that what all pre Goldberg history should now be considered? Because his stunning insights have forever changed the way history should read. Obviously all the actual historical documents will have to be altered to fit the new reality.
..hitter was a lefty...read the party doctrine and it is all socialism all the time.....it is amazing how much the left has to lie just to get through the day....sadly for you guys...there is the internet...before, you could lie in our schools and teach your crap to our kids and were never questioned.....all of the truth was locked away in books that people with normal lives would never see.....with the Internet...you get challenged and exposed as the liars you are...which is one reason obama took control of it......
Your childish declarations do nothing to change actual history.
And what kind of fucking dummy thinks the internet is a reliable source of information? How shallow and stupid would you have to be?
There's no attempt to change history... The National Socialists are socialists. That they have a variation on the socialist theme, distinct only in the long game of national socialism, from the revolutionary short game of International socialism doesn't make it less than socialism... thus anything other than what it is: Collectivism, OKA: LEFTIST.
To argue otherwise scamp, only makes one appear foolish. Now don't you t least want to be better than that?
There are no legitimate historians anywhere who would in any way validate your ideologically motivated nonsense.
Of course, your definition of "legitimate historian" is one who endorses your version of history.
You're just another servile leftwing lickspittle.
* The Nazis more than tolerated homosexuality in their high-ranking circles. In fact, many Nazi founders and leaders were gay. There is evidence that Hitler himself was gay and later bi-sexual. (It's true that the Nazis publicly condemned and persecuted some gays, but this was a smokescreen to hide their own perversion and to target enemies who happened to be gay.)
Ernst Rohlm was the highest ranking ghey Nazi to be killed by Hitler...along with
Holocaust victims - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaHomosexuals and non-heterosexuals were also targets of the Holocaust, as male homosexuality (and, to a lesser extent, female homosexuality) was deemed incompatible with Nazism as the Nazis believed that gay men were weak, effeminate men who could not fight for the German nation and saw homosexuals as unlikely to produce children and increase the German birth-rate.
Rohm was killed because he was a threat to Hitler's power, not because he was a queer. Hitler knew he was gay from the beginning.
But Hitler used that as part of his excuse to get rid of Rohm.
There's actually nothing to debunk, Goldberg never had anything like a compelling argument to begin with. Revisionist history tainted with ideology smells a lot like horse shit.
You obviously haven't read the book. But when did that ever stop morons from spouting their ignorance?
You obviously don't know anything about history. If you did you would know that one or two ideologically driven authors don't change history. Nazism was a right wing, reactionary movement. There is no controversy about that.
You're a gullible moron and a statist tool. History never changes, but what people know about it does. When someone publishes the facts, that changes people's understanding. Of course a leftwing toady like you will never admit the facts. You're expected to regurgitate the official dogma because that is what supports the regime.
Official dogma? Is that what all pre Goldberg history should now be considered? Because his stunning insights have forever changed the way history should read. Obviously all the actual historical documents will have to be altered to fit the new reality.
Almost all history is government approved dogma. That's the reason the government puts historians on its payroll, so they know how to massage the evidence.
Tell us, has this historical document been altered?
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
