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Book of Jeremiah · Jan 31, 2015

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ninja007 · Feb 1, 2015

Jeremiah said:
ninja007 said:

Jer- how can a person lose their salvation? If they could not earn it they cannot keep it. Name one person in the Bible who lost it? Judas was not saved and I can prove it.

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Was Demas who abandoned Paul and the Gospel of Jesus Christ for love of this world - saved?

It is written:

For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
2 Timothy 4:10

Obedience is not earning your salvation, Ninja. Obedience is evidence of your salvation. Without it? Where is the evidence that you belong to Christ?

It is written:
Galatians 5 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

What is the flesh? What are works of the flesh, Ninja?

It is written:
Galatians 5 19 The acts of the flesh are obvious sexual immorality impurity and debauchery
and again it is written:
Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions.

- Galatians 5:19,20

Can a born again Christian fall into those sins? Yes. What should they do? Repent and return to the LORD and obey him. Do not stay in sin but repent of it and don't return to it. It is very easy to get pulled into strife, to give in to an outburst of anger or get involved in a dispute, so we have to be vigilant to stop ourselves from it when we find ourselves getting pulled that way. It takes the Spirit of God leading us and being submitted to Him to avoid such snares of Satan.

What if a believer makes the decision not to avoid such snares and to continue on? Hebrews 10:26 tells you. Read it.

God is no respecter of persons. - Acts 10:34

Hebrews 10:26 ; Paul is saying that those who have been told about Jesus yet refuse to accept Him as their atonement have no further recourse. No more sacrifice is offered that they may be forgiven. The wrath of God is upon them, they are condemned.

ninja007 · Feb 1, 2015

Jer- you are defending Lordship Salvation and it is a lie. Because the Word of God clearly teaches that a person is saved by FAITH ALONE in Christ. Lordship Salvation doesn't allow for backsliding.

in Revelation 2:1-4 the message concerning the church of Ephesus. (V.4) “Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.” The believers at Ephesus had backslid, and wandered away from the Lord; but they were still saved.

Book of Jeremiah · Feb 1, 2015

ninja007 said:
Jer- you are defending Lordship Salvation and it is a lie. Because the Word of God clearly teaches that a person is saved by FAITH ALONE in Christ. Lordship Salvation doesn't allow for backsliding.

in Revelation 2:1-4 the message concerning the church of Ephesus. (V.4) “Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.” The believers at Ephesus had backslid, and wandered away from the Lord; but they were still saved.

That must be a new term the wide road false preachers have come up with. I'm quoting bible scripture. Believe the Word of God, Ninja. Not man. Anyone who preaches another gospel to you? You must not believe it. There is only one Gospel. Jesus said, Those that endure until the end - the same shall be saved.

Jesus warns in Revelation 3:15,16 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I would you were cold or hot. So then because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold I will spue you out of my mouth.

and again it is written:

Behold, I come quickly hold that fast which you have, that no man take your crown. - Rev. 3:11

and again it is written,

..........be thou faithful unto death, and I will give you a Crown of life.
Rev. 2:10

and again it is written:

Remember therefore from where you are fallen, and repent, or else I will come unto you quickly, and will remove your candlestick out of his place, except you repent.
-Rev. 2: 5

and finally it is written:

He who overcomes, the same shall be clothed in white raiment, and I will not blot out his name out of the Book of life (proving that a Christians name CAN BE REMOVED from the Book of Life), but I will confess his name before my Father, and before His angels.
-Rev 3:5

and

Death and hell were cast into the Lake of Fire. This is the second death And whosoever was not found in the Book of Life was cast into the Lake of Fire. -Rev. 20:14,15