Slade3200
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Lady, with all the words you use you sure don't say much... you aren't ever going to be able to prove your point because it defies logic. A normal conservative that represents the Right support the values of the right. Those in the "far right" are pushing for extreme changes as I mentioned. They are only a small fraction just as the far left is a small fraction. People like you try to paint everybody on the left as an extremist and claim that there is no extreme on the Right. Who are you trying to fool? What a jokeWhat's up with the long rants. Keep it simple stupid... KISS.By any objective measure Phelps and his crew of dingbats (for example) represent a FAR right (aka radical) deviation from the generally accepted existing political center (aka societal norm) so do any number of other radical right wing organizations (say hello to those pro-Sharia organizations while you're at it), to argue otherwise would be to contend that these miscreants aren't radicals (or aren't right wing) which would get you laughed out of any serious discussion even with a completely conservative audience.1. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important ....let's define terms.
The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.
To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.
So yeah it does in fact exist the only argument that remains is to what degree, you might argue that they represent an inconsequential minority with little to no influence on public policy but to say they don't exist at all is preposterous.
Gee....looks like our pal NightFox went night-night.
I'm gonna assume that he couldn't meet the challenge that I offered..." see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing."
That doesn't mean that I can't provide lots more examples of positions that show that the Right is consistent with American traditions, values, and history ....hence, represent that center.
There is no 'Far Right.'
Let's take the most central of American values: free speech.
The Obama administration is easily proven to be Far Left: he advanced, to a seat on the Supreme Court, a radical who does not believe in free speech, the first amendment.
"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:
"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."
In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."
Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut?
Any want to deny that free speech is at the center of American tradition???
Anyone?
So....as far as the concept of free speech in America, where do we find the radical position?
Hence, far left.
Any who have fallen for the Leftist attempt to claim that there is a "Far Right," see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Far right would be anybody wanting to ban Muslims, jail women for having an abortion, make gay marriage illegal... do I really need to keep going?
Gads, you're a moron.
The Right endorses the Constitution, which gives the President the power to set foreign policy for the purpose of protecting the people of America.Maintaining our sovereignty is a traditional American value....nothing 'far' about it.
To prove what a lying oaf you are, find any Right wing leader who has demanded 'jailing women for having an abortion."
"make gay marriage legal" is far from a traditional American value.
1. There is no "Far Right" in this country.
As is always important ....let's define terms.
The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.
To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.
The premise here is that, if I can show that the values called 'Far Right' are actually at the center of American traditions, values, and history represent that center, well then, they cannot be correctly awarded the modifier "Far."
"Radical" is important to the discussion. It means "especially of change or action relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough" (see Google.)
There are so very many ways to prove same.....
2. Let's take as an example, traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage..
....which is the radical position?
Hence, Far Left.
3. Need convincing? Well, a common social reference is 'the nuclear family.' It has always meant:
" a family group that consists only of father, mother, and children" Definition of NUCLEAR FAMILY
How about 'traditional family'?
"A traditional family is a family structure that consists of a man, woman and one or more of their biological or adopted children. In most traditional families, the man and woman are husband and wife." Traditional Family: Definition & Concept | Study.com
So....as far as the concept of marriage and family, where do we find the radical position?
The Left.
Hence, 'Far Left.'
So far, far from the center, that they cannot point to a single philosopher, sage, or religious leader throughout history who has endorsed homosexual marriage.
I can give other examples as necessary.
If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.
Keep trying....and wipe that drool off your chin.