Johns Hopkins: More gun control needed to prevent second civil war

[The Sage of Main Street]

Disarmed their military, then the German government began to register guns for civillians....the socialists then used those lists to take guns away from the people they planned to murder.

You Mean the Socialists Whom the Nazis Shot on Sight?

 

[Dagosa]

Nothing yet. Like I said, you cheered when he got away with breaking federal gun laws, because you HATE gun control.

What was that ?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

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Not Making Connections Is Paralyzed Thinking


That's what happened October 7, but I never read gunowners pointing that out.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Dumb shit......

Had there been guns in common use, the Germans would never have invaded the rest of Europe....how do we know?

Switzerland....

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS

That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"

The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.

The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.

Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million. Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms.


Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.

While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

That's Why The Lone Ranger Begins With a Swiss Heroic Hymn

 

[skye]

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Now, you are intentionally omitting. The militia purpose is not the exclusive purpose, it is only one component.

Again, the Cornell page describes the ruling:

"Coming back to the Court’s initial declaration that the two clauses must “fit” together, the majority concluded that the two clauses fit “perfectly” in light of the historical context showing that “tyrants had eliminated a militia consisting of all the able-bodied men . . . by taking away the people’s arms.” 22 Thus, the Court announced the reason for the Second Amendment’s codification was “to prevent elimination of the militia,” which “might be necessary to oppose an oppressive military force if the constitutional order broke down.” 23 The Court clarified that the reason for codification does not define the entire scope of the right the Second Amendment guarantees.24 This is so because, the Court explained, the Second Amendment codified a pre-existing right that included using firearms for self-defense and hunting, and thus the pre-existing right also informs the meaning of the Second Amendment.25"

Constitution-Bangers Believe in Something That Takes Away Their Bang

That elitist government document does not protect your right to own a gun; only your gun protects that right.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Well apparently you don't, because the SCOTUS has a much broader view.

"...the Supreme Court majority concluded that the term “well-regulated militia” does not refer to state or congressionally regulated military forces as described in the Constitution’s Militia Clause;19 rather, the Second Amendment’s usage refers to all “able-bodied men” who are “capable of acting in concert for the common defense.” 20 The Court opined that the security of a free “state,” does not refer to the security of each of the several states, but rather the security of the country as a whole."

^^^From the Cornell link previously posted.

Chickenhawk Cabal Pecking at Fighting Men From 1787 On

Follow the money and ignore all scribbling hirelings. The cheapskate ruling class didn't want to pay for arming and training a standing army, so they relied on the private experience of hunters to "regulate" the armed forces when the militia was called up to do the job a patriotic government would have a standing army for.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That the objective is to ban guns so the citizenry can more easily be controlled.

If we're armed, we can resist. If we're unarmed, we can't.

The Security of a Free Statism

It's incredibly stupid to believe that a government's document would give us the right to violently overthrow it. The Framers didn't believe in defending America, especially at the frontiers, but they certainly believed in defending their own supremacy over us.

 

[2aguy]

Cowardice Is the Crime That Enables All Others

Then who disarmed the Jews near Gaza, which was the only reason there were so many casualties?

The left wing politicians in israel....

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

The Security of a Free Statism

It's incredibly stupid to believe that a government's document would give us the right to violently overthrow it. The Framers didn't believe in defending America, especially at the frontiers, but they certainly believed in defending their own supremacy over us.

Depends on the reason for the overthrow.

Let's say a president sends death squads throughout the country to kill anyone he deemed a threat to his party's power.

Would that justify a civil war against the government?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Not quite bubba…Only if you’re a convicted felon, too young or a Trump supported, I mean a lunatic.

What if Trump is elected and he sends death squads throughout the country to kill anyone who he deems a threat?

Would that justify an armed uprising against the government?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

The left wing politicians in israel....

I remember the anti-gunners bragging about Israel's gun control laws...lol

 

[Dagosa]

What if Trump is elected and he sends death squads throughout the country to kill anyone who he deems a threat?

Would that justify an armed uprising against the government?

Hilarious.

 

[Dagosa]

I remember the anti-gunners bragging about Israel's gun control laws...lol

I remember all you gunners bragging about Israel’s impenetrable wall. It had over 30 breaches., It’s really dumb comparing Israel to America. They’re constantly on a war footing.

Israel is very well armed EVERYWHERE. They have six year compulsary service. The able body are all trained. Everyone is a “ soldier”….Those who aren’t, can apply for a carry license…

 

[Dagosa]

You cheered when Hunter Biden got away with breaking federal gun laws. You HATE gun control.

You hate America and love Trump, Putin and Russia.

 

[Delldude]

So you fascist Trump supporters are for more gun control, right ? Trump loves fascism. In modern nations, fascist and dictators that Trump luvs ALL have more gun control.

Tell us about how many other countries restrict or prohibit gun ownership.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

I remember all you gunners bragging about Israel’s impenetrable wall. It had over 30 breaches., It’s really dumb comparing Israel to America. They’re constantly on a war footing.

Israel is very well armed EVERYWHERE. They have six year compulsary service. The able body are all trained. Everyone is a “ soldier”….Those who aren’t, can apply for a carry license…

I never said that. There's no such thing as an "impenetrable wall".

 

[2aguy]

I remember all you gunners bragging about Israel’s impenetrable wall. It had over 30 breaches., It’s really dumb comparing Israel to America. They’re constantly on a war footing.

Israel is very well armed EVERYWHERE. They have six year compulsary service. The able body are all trained. Everyone is a “ soldier”….Those who aren’t, can apply for a carry license…

No, they are not well armed as was pointed out after the attack....idiots like you in Israel confiscated guns from most people.......leaving them defenseless......

 

[Dagosa]

I never said that. There's no such thing as an "impenetrable wall".

Guns and walls are part of the rallying crowd of gun a. Holics.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Guns and walls are part of the rallying crowd of gun a. Holics.

Nothing is 100%.