Johns Hopkins University: “Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19..."

[JGalt]

After Covid-19? This must be an article from the furture or one of them rightwinger fantasies.

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year. If it's not mostly older people then who the f is it?

For reasonable person the virus has been mostly a non issue since it was discovered that it's one hundredth as lethal as it was thought to be at the start by many. It's rapidly becoming a bad flu - and for most people not even that.

No black death...

Norman, lets get real, you don't know anything about reasonable.

Overall deaths are well above normal and thats true EVERYWHERE with Covid-19 outbreaks.

If you average the low and high number of coronavirus deaths per day since the virus was first detected Jan. 20, 2020, it can only attributed to about one out of ten total deaths each day since then.

"As of November 24, 2020, an average of around 936.5 people per day have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. since the first case was confirmed in the country on January 20th. On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States, based on data from 2019. The daily death toll from seasonal flu, using preliminary maximum estimates from the 2019-2020 influenza season, is an average of almost 332 people. Based on the latest information, more than one in ten deaths each day can be attributed to COVID-19 since January 20th."

U.S. COVID-19 average deaths by day | Statista

And? Death rates are much more stable than many imagine through the annual cycle. So although Covid-19 effects are only a fraction of all the reasons people die it is still plainly visible to anyone not blinded by idiology.

2018 is what a bad flue season looks like, it's not anywhere close to the excess deaths during 2020.

Try looking at a bigger picture, instead of a small slice of history. The number of deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic make this look like a sniffle.

1918 Pandemic lasted 2 years and you are comparing about half a year worth of data (first deaths in March) to that.

Total death count for 1918 pandemic is at about 675,000, so yes, it is worse than the expected 400,000 death toll for Covid-19 occuring 100 years later, in a much more medically and socially advanced age.

So whats your point? That because death toll for 1918 pandemic was worse, 2020 pandemic is not bad?

No, it's not at all that bad. I had it and even though I'm a 70 year old pack a day smoker with COPD, it was gone in three days.

So much for the Great Wupocalypse of 2020. Ho hum.

 

[Norman]

After Covid-19? This must be an article from the furture or one of them rightwinger fantasies.

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year. If it's not mostly older people then who the f is it?

For reasonable person the virus has been mostly a non issue since it was discovered that it's one hundredth as lethal as it was thought to be at the start by many. It's rapidly becoming a bad flu - and for most people not even that.

No black death...

Norman, lets get real, you don't know anything about reasonable.

Overall deaths are well above normal and thats true EVERYWHERE with Covid-19 outbreaks.

If you average the low and high number of coronavirus deaths per day since the virus was first detected Jan. 20, 2020, it can only attributed to about one out of ten total deaths each day since then.

"As of November 24, 2020, an average of around 936.5 people per day have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. since the first case was confirmed in the country on January 20th. On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States, based on data from 2019. The daily death toll from seasonal flu, using preliminary maximum estimates from the 2019-2020 influenza season, is an average of almost 332 people. Based on the latest information, more than one in ten deaths each day can be attributed to COVID-19 since January 20th."

U.S. COVID-19 average deaths by day | Statista

And? Death rates are much more stable than many imagine through the annual cycle. So although Covid-19 effects are only a fraction of all the reasons people die it is still plainly visible to anyone not blinded by idiology.

2018 is what a bad flue season looks like, it's not anywhere close to the excess deaths during 2020.

Try looking at a bigger picture, instead of a small slice of history. The number of deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic make this look like a sniffle.

1918 Pandemic lasted 2 years and you are comparing about half a year worth of data (first deaths in March) to that.

Total death count for 1918 pandemic is at about 675,000, so yes, it is worse than the expected 400,000 death toll for Covid-19 occuring 100 years later, in a much more medically and socially advanced age.

So whats your point? That because death toll for 1918 pandemic was worse, 2020 pandemic is not bad?

No, it's not at all that bad. I had it and even though I'm a 70 year old pack a day smoker with COPD, it was gone in three days.

So much for the Great Wupocalypse of 2020. Ho hum.

Next time he should start with "We at NYC fucked up very badly." But no, there is no such admission. Meanwhile other states are doing just fine and the arrogant dufuses are expecting to tell others how to live after an astronomical fuck up, as usual.

 

[AntonToo]

After Covid-19? This must be an article from the furture or one of them rightwinger fantasies.

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year. If it's not mostly older people then who the f is it?

For reasonable person the virus has been mostly a non issue since it was discovered that it's one hundredth as lethal as it was thought to be at the start by many. It's rapidly becoming a bad flu - and for most people not even that.

No black death...

Norman, lets get real, you don't know anything about reasonable.

Overall deaths are well above normal and thats true EVERYWHERE with Covid-19 outbreaks.

If you average the low and high number of coronavirus deaths per day since the virus was first detected Jan. 20, 2020, it can only attributed to about one out of ten total deaths each day since then.

"As of November 24, 2020, an average of around 936.5 people per day have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. since the first case was confirmed in the country on January 20th. On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States, based on data from 2019. The daily death toll from seasonal flu, using preliminary maximum estimates from the 2019-2020 influenza season, is an average of almost 332 people. Based on the latest information, more than one in ten deaths each day can be attributed to COVID-19 since January 20th."

U.S. COVID-19 average deaths by day | Statista

And? Death rates are much more stable than many imagine through the annual cycle. So although Covid-19 effects are only a fraction of all the reasons people die it is still plainly visible to anyone not blinded by idiology.

2018 is what a bad flue season looks like, it's not anywhere close to the excess deaths during 2020.

Try looking at a bigger picture, instead of a small slice of history. The number of deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic make this look like a sniffle.

1918 Pandemic lasted 2 years and you are comparing about half a year worth of data (first deaths in March) to that.

Total death count for 1918 pandemic is at about 675,000, so yes, it is worse than the expected 400,000 death toll for Covid-19 occuring 100 years later, in a much more medically and socially advanced age.

So whats your point? That because death toll for 1918 pandemic was worse, 2020 pandemic is not bad?

No, it's not at all that bad. I had it and even though I'm a 70 year old pack a day smoker with COPD, it was gone in three days.

So much for the Great Wupocalypse of 2020. Ho hum.

Good for you, not so good for ~400,000 others in America who have or will die from Covid-19 before next summer.

You shouldn't be so cavalier in dismissing those lives.

 

[AntonToo]

Next time he should start with "We at NYC fucked up very badly."

Unbelivable. And then you wonder why we call you deplorables.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

After Covid-19? This must be an article from the furture or one of them rightwinger fantasies.

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year. If it's not mostly older people then who the f is it?

For reasonable person the virus has been mostly a non issue since it was discovered that it's one hundredth as lethal as it was thought to be at the start by many. It's rapidly becoming a bad flu - and for most people not even that.

No black death...

Norman, lets get real, you don't know anything about reasonable.

Overall deaths are well above normal and thats true EVERYWHERE with Covid-19 outbreaks.

If you average the low and high number of coronavirus deaths per day since the virus was first detected Jan. 20, 2020, it can only attributed to about one out of ten total deaths each day since then.

"As of November 24, 2020, an average of around 936.5 people per day have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. since the first case was confirmed in the country on January 20th. On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States, based on data from 2019. The daily death toll from seasonal flu, using preliminary maximum estimates from the 2019-2020 influenza season, is an average of almost 332 people. Based on the latest information, more than one in ten deaths each day can be attributed to COVID-19 since January 20th."

U.S. COVID-19 average deaths by day | Statista

And? Death rates are much more stable than many imagine through the annual cycle. So although Covid-19 effects are only a fraction of all the reasons people die it is still plainly visible to anyone not blinded by idiology.

2018 is what a bad flue season looks like, it's not anywhere close to the excess deaths during 2020.

Try looking at a bigger picture, instead of a small slice of history. The number of deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic make this look like a sniffle.

1918 Pandemic lasted 2 years and you are comparing about half a year worth of data (it lags) to that.

Total death count for 1918 pandemic is at about 675,000, so yes, it is worse than the expected 400,000 death toll for Covid-19 occuring 100 years later, in a much more medically and socially advanced age.

So whats your point? That because 1918 pandemic was worse, 2020 pandemic is not bad?

If you think the heightened flu is anywhere near 1918 pandemic - you are retarded. Spanish flu killed 700,000 from a population one third the size. Do you believe the virus will kill over two million people at this point?

And of course, they weren't recording every death as a virus death. Almost 10x the deaths we have had... it won't ever happen.

I think he established that many posts back he is indeed retarded the fact he thinks sweeden has had an increase in death count not to mention he is so deluded he really thinks this virus is anywhere near the death rate of the Spanish flu virus let alone believes the media instead of doctors,that this virus is five times more dangerous than the yearly flu virus when it’s just he other way around.

 

[Norman]

Next time he should start with "We at NYC fucked up very badly."

Unbelivable.

You yourself post a chart demonstrating the fuck up... and then come back as if it was handled properly.

Meanwhile rest of the country has normal death rates, as the CDC statistics show - and undoubtedly they have made every effort to get those statistics as high as possible. But the people at NYC still think they should be dictating the tune that is played.

It's time to pony up.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

After Covid-19? This must be an article from the furture or one of them rightwinger fantasies.

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year. If it's not mostly older people then who the f is it?

For reasonable person the virus has been mostly a non issue since it was discovered that it's one hundredth as lethal as it was thought to be at the start by many. It's rapidly becoming a bad flu - and for most people not even that.

No black death...

Norman, lets get real, you don't know anything about reasonable.

Overall deaths are well above normal and thats true EVERYWHERE with Covid-19 outbreaks.

If you average the low and high number of coronavirus deaths per day since the virus was first detected Jan. 20, 2020, it can only attributed to about one out of ten total deaths each day since then.

"As of November 24, 2020, an average of around 936.5 people per day have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. since the first case was confirmed in the country on January 20th. On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States, based on data from 2019. The daily death toll from seasonal flu, using preliminary maximum estimates from the 2019-2020 influenza season, is an average of almost 332 people. Based on the latest information, more than one in ten deaths each day can be attributed to COVID-19 since January 20th."

U.S. COVID-19 average deaths by day | Statista

And? Death rates are much more stable than many imagine through the annual cycle. So although Covid-19 effects are only a fraction of all the reasons people die it is still plainly visible to anyone not blinded by idiology.

2018 is what a bad flue season looks like, it's not anywhere close to the excess deaths during 2020.

Try looking at a bigger picture, instead of a small slice of history. The number of deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic make this look like a sniffle.

1918 Pandemic lasted 2 years and you are comparing about half a year worth of data (first deaths in March) to that.

Total death count for 1918 pandemic is at about 675,000, so yes, it is worse than the expected 400,000 death toll for Covid-19 occuring 100 years later, in a much more medically and socially advanced age.

So whats your point? That because death toll for 1918 pandemic was worse, 2020 pandemic is not bad?

No, it's not at all that bad. I had it and even though I'm a 70 year old pack a day smoker with COPD, it was gone in three days.

So much for the Great Wupocalypse of 2020. Ho hum.

Good for you, not so good for ~400,000 others in America who have or will die from Covid-19 before next summer.

You shouldn't be so cavalier in dismissing those lives.

Cause the media tells him,that of course is good enough for him.this guy is really putting on a comedy show for us.

 

[Norman]

Deaths per state, 2019 and 2020...

	2020	2019
State	January	February	March	April	May	June	January	February	March	April	May	June	July	August	September	October	November	December
ALABAMA	4,806	4,706	4,832	4,952	5,175	4,957	4,904	4,416	4,765	4,460	4,559	4,323	4,462	4,398	4,205	4,375	4,533	4,834
ALASKA	435	377	367	367	396	375	417	373	420	353	401	390	337	382	372	383	417	422
ARIZONA	5,770	5,383	5,857	5,801	5,854	6,457	5,655	4,841	5,484	5,126	5,098	4,656	4,890	4,782	4,701	4,794	5,057	5,252
ARKANSAS	2,987	2,865	2,904	2,742	2,822	2,962	2,974	2,786	3,060	2,715	2,686	2,522	2,591	2,600	2,578	2,688	2,855	2,950
CALIFORNIA	25,639	23,719	24,999	25,490	24,801	23,805	24,885	22,734	24,662	22,253	22,334	21,392	21,267	20,954	20,648	22,234	22,142	24,258
COLORADO	3,657	3,448	3,728	4,479	3,791	3,530	3,539	3,204	3,536	3,194	3,341	3,120	3,155	3,108	3,111	3,371	3,264	3,494
CONNECTICUT	2,839	2,645	2,955	5,295	3,974	2,560	2,897	2,681	2,909	2,657	2,538	2,496	2,537	2,537	2,408	2,596	2,689	2,804
DELAWARE	850	769	881	1,025	1,095	787	848	734	827	698	752	718	769	786	770	741	737	846
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA	494	416	439	730	676	475	425	386	394	403	374	359	407	409	405	446	429	476
FLORIDA	19,236	17,980	19,432	18,964	18,853	18,561	18,372	16,952	18,466	17,671	17,602	16,611	16,913	16,322	15,851	16,635	17,100	18,566
GEORGIA	7,895	7,346	7,937	8,593	8,352	7,494	7,746	6,687	7,527	7,137	7,080	6,736	7,028	6,929	6,776	7,093	7,320	7,612
HAWAII	1,057	1,020	1,014	913	939	941	1,020	929	1,102	963	999	961	988	912	942	918	882	1,000
IDAHO	1,243	1,226	1,335	1,178	1,240	1,237	1,200	1,241	1,272	1,228	1,237	1,196	1,100	1,151	1,158	1,201	1,178	1,269
ILLINOIS	10,081	9,450	10,389	12,769	12,590	9,999	9,749	8,924	9,608	8,872	9,143	8,533	8,637	8,607	8,593	9,343	9,219	9,650
INDIANA	6,193	5,774	6,194	6,665	6,541	5,847	5,817	5,374	5,861	5,437	5,577	5,191	5,231	5,190	5,199	5,590	5,547	5,971
IOWA	2,838	2,637	2,718	2,676	2,910	2,511	2,750	2,492	2,715	2,522	2,477	2,441	2,545	2,440	2,418	2,700	2,591	2,814
KANSAS	2,623	2,344	2,444	2,370	2,376	2,271	2,515	2,252	2,539	2,201	2,277	2,207	2,219	2,122	2,231	2,305	2,293	2,488
KENTUCKY	4,549	4,087	4,340	4,302	4,422	4,118	4,384	3,971	4,468	4,108	4,002	3,916	3,914	3,882	3,879	4,053	4,059	4,451
LOUISIANA	4,225	3,992	4,718	5,732	4,754	4,220	4,131	3,749	4,078	3,706	3,752	3,692	3,657	3,747	3,572	3,792	3,946	4,151
MAINE	1,370	1,286	1,315	1,270	1,254	1,180	1,345	1,197	1,403	1,271	1,197	1,170	1,214	1,219	1,195	1,285	1,244	1,289
MARYLAND	4,531	4,238	4,725	6,073	6,102	4,709	4,573	4,068	4,636	4,241	4,138	3,992	4,047	4,040	3,878	4,274	4,366	4,474
MASSACHUSETTS	5,392	5,032	5,484	9,526	7,612	4,729	5,545	4,886	5,182	4,888	4,716	4,528	4,686	4,629	4,560	4,926	4,895	5,279
MICHIGAN	9,064	8,346	9,789	13,237	9,442	8,357	8,730	7,820	8,703	8,100	8,281	7,820	8,107	7,923	7,842	8,410	8,515	8,888
MINNESOTA	4,274	3,835	4,048	4,145	4,513	4,018	4,101	3,622	3,811	3,621	3,871	3,465	3,616	3,778	3,663	3,864	3,827	4,153
MISSISSIPPI	2,847	2,785	2,953	3,178	3,402	3,148	2,880	2,751	2,843	2,693	2,845	2,618	2,645	2,653	2,522	2,679	2,705	2,938
MISSOURI	5,734	5,385	5,620	5,801	5,646	5,155	5,569	5,122	5,575	5,020	5,230	4,961	5,218	5,014	4,959	5,074	5,325	5,435
MONTANA	933	878	946	838	830	837	954	880	933	875	826	830	834	853	840	860	832	886
NEBRASKA	1,541	1,370	1,490	1,442	1,543	1,402	1,595	1,390	1,460	1,413	1,387	1,280	1,347	1,361	1,337	1,469	1,371	1,566
NEVADA	2,395	2,189	2,265	2,350	2,277	2,242	2,318	2,101	2,251	2,215	2,064	2,065	2,066	2,080	1,993	2,019	2,107	2,232
NEW HAMPSHIRE	1,132	1,044	1,139	1,148	1,227	1,139	1,147	1,071	1,114	1,017	1,036	922	990	1,048	1,001	1,088	1,064	1,168
NEW JERSEY	7,022	6,314	8,048	18,288	9,729	6,371	6,893	6,335	6,717	5,954	6,159	5,888	6,094	5,945	5,774	6,239	6,334	6,936
NEW MEXICO	1,802	1,631	1,690	1,786	1,975	1,832	1,853	1,568	1,736	1,589	1,592	1,554	1,566	1,555	1,596	1,589	1,615	1,711
NEW YORK	14,513	13,320	18,930	41,554	17,967	12,858	14,421	12,790	13,988	12,723	12,846	12,217	12,665	12,340	12,082	13,234	13,070	14,137
NORTH CAROLINA	8,642	8,238	8,756	8,644	8,863	8,130	8,362	8,108	8,437	7,960	8,027	7,728	7,571	7,675	7,506	7,952	7,846	8,576
NORTH DAKOTA	602	581	587	600	593	546	572	509	545	581	608	549	510	556	542	583	585	603
OHIO	11,250	10,344	11,122	11,497	11,671	10,541	11,320	9,711	11,154	10,193	9,993	9,757	9,961	9,929	9,741	10,229	10,418	10,975
OKLAHOMA	3,836	3,473	3,713	3,524	3,467	3,375	3,694	3,424	3,796	3,316	3,327	3,153	3,283	3,263	3,188	3,313	3,477	3,652
OREGON	3,297	3,068	3,384	3,264	3,203	3,062	3,249	2,956	3,417	3,083	3,148	2,970	2,986	2,930	2,968	3,177	3,164	3,295
PENNSYLVANIA	12,377	11,310	11,957	15,254	13,685	11,060	12,278	10,954	12,036	11,054	10,952	10,457	10,576	10,610	10,343	11,199	11,273	12,141
RHODE ISLAND	888	874	932	1,155	1,299	920	988	809	936	825	845	798	817	839	816	855	848	923
SOUTH CAROLINA	4,804	4,406	4,883	4,668	4,792	4,700	4,550	4,157	4,518	4,057	4,363	4,117	4,047	4,112	4,032	4,223	4,206	4,700
SOUTH DAKOTA	717	681	732	682	706	659	721	645	704	703	705	648	641	715	672	698	719	684
TENNESSEE	6,783	5,972	6,570	6,172	6,356	6,198	6,281	5,867	6,166	6,108	6,064	5,761	5,744	5,770	5,648	5,996	5,984	6,580
TEXAS	18,781	17,373	18,296	18,293	18,437	18,861	18,424	16,313	18,012	16,541	16,551	16,084	16,458	16,354	15,767	17,120	17,406	18,547
UTAH	1,710	1,482	1,731	1,607	1,655	1,628	1,717	1,469	1,693	1,524	1,633	1,472	1,523	1,479	1,450	1,558	1,566	1,691
VERMONT	515	521	595	550	518	489	518	478	534	537	455	474	452	458	437	503	507	499
VIRGINIA	6,671	6,046	6,578	6,990	6,800	6,059	6,133	5,764	6,265	5,789	5,910	5,665	5,693	5,727	5,496	5,782	5,847	6,269
WASHINGTON	5,363	4,779	5,433	5,369	4,989	4,692	5,233	4,828	5,304	4,822	4,940	4,604	4,715	4,542	4,450	4,928	4,738	5,095
WEST VIRGINIA	2,221	2,006	2,181	2,069	2,034	1,901	2,196	1,873	2,132	1,975	1,990	1,911	1,827	1,826	1,874	2,024	1,904	2,054
WISCONSIN	4,956	4,660	5,016	4,891	4,802	4,496	4,839	4,213	4,691	4,443	4,513	4,190	4,347	4,422	4,314	4,777	4,562	4,823
WYOMING	496	416	456	450	433	439	444	377	484	373	455	388	418	383	446	437	442	466
PUERTO RICO	2,672	2,544	2,731	2,385	2,438	2,406	2,816	2,415	2,495	2,331	2,541	2,517	2,490	2,411	2,341	2,376	2,509	2,471

 

[JGalt]

After Covid-19? This must be an article from the furture or one of them rightwinger fantasies.

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year. If it's not mostly older people then who the f is it?

For reasonable person the virus has been mostly a non issue since it was discovered that it's one hundredth as lethal as it was thought to be at the start by many. It's rapidly becoming a bad flu - and for most people not even that.

No black death...

Norman, lets get real, you don't know anything about reasonable.

Overall deaths are well above normal and thats true EVERYWHERE with Covid-19 outbreaks.

If you average the low and high number of coronavirus deaths per day since the virus was first detected Jan. 20, 2020, it can only attributed to about one out of ten total deaths each day since then.

"As of November 24, 2020, an average of around 936.5 people per day have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. since the first case was confirmed in the country on January 20th. On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States, based on data from 2019. The daily death toll from seasonal flu, using preliminary maximum estimates from the 2019-2020 influenza season, is an average of almost 332 people. Based on the latest information, more than one in ten deaths each day can be attributed to COVID-19 since January 20th."

U.S. COVID-19 average deaths by day | Statista

And? Death rates are much more stable than many imagine through the annual cycle. So although Covid-19 effects are only a fraction of all the reasons people die it is still plainly visible to anyone not blinded by idiology.

2018 is what a bad flue season looks like, it's not anywhere close to the excess deaths during 2020.

Try looking at a bigger picture, instead of a small slice of history. The number of deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic make this look like a sniffle.

1918 Pandemic lasted 2 years and you are comparing about half a year worth of data (first deaths in March) to that.

Total death count for 1918 pandemic is at about 675,000, so yes, it is worse than the expected 400,000 death toll for Covid-19 occuring 100 years later, in a much more medically and socially advanced age.

So whats your point? That because death toll for 1918 pandemic was worse, 2020 pandemic is not bad?

No, it's not at all that bad. I had it and even though I'm a 70 year old pack a day smoker with COPD, it was gone in three days.

So much for the Great Wupocalypse of 2020. Ho hum.

Good for you, not so good for ~400,000 others in America who have or will die from Covid-19 before next summer.

400k because some "expert" said so?

So what happened to the "millions" these "experts" and their media parrots were predicting back in March?

Wishful thinking maybe?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/the...l-millions-of-americans-cdc-advisor-says.html

'Terrifying' New Research Warns 2.2 Million Could Die From Coronavirus in US Without Drastic Action

 

[AntonToo]

Next time he should start with "We at NYC fucked up very badly."

Unbelivable.

You yourself post a chart demonstrating the fuck up...

No I didn't, stfu Norm.

New York was ground zero for the pandemic, we took the first hit in this country, before much was known about the virus.

We shutdown, we wore the masks and we got Covid-19 under controll while the rest of the country that didn't heed the warning was seeing hotspots explode.

 

[JGalt]

Deaths per state, 2019 and 2020...

State	January	February	March	April	May	June	January	February	March	April	May	June	July	August	September	October	November	December
	2020	2019
ALABAMA	4,806	4,706	4,832	4,952	5,175	4,957	4,904	4,416	4,765	4,460	4,559	4,323	4,462	4,398	4,205	4,375	4,533	4,834
ALASKA	435	377	367	367	396	375	417	373	420	353	401	390	337	382	372	383	417	422
ARIZONA	5,770	5,383	5,857	5,801	5,854	6,457	5,655	4,841	5,484	5,126	5,098	4,656	4,890	4,782	4,701	4,794	5,057	5,252
ARKANSAS	2,987	2,865	2,904	2,742	2,822	2,962	2,974	2,786	3,060	2,715	2,686	2,522	2,591	2,600	2,578	2,688	2,855	2,950
CALIFORNIA	25,639	23,719	24,999	25,490	24,801	23,805	24,885	22,734	24,662	22,253	22,334	21,392	21,267	20,954	20,648	22,234	22,142	24,258
COLORADO	3,657	3,448	3,728	4,479	3,791	3,530	3,539	3,204	3,536	3,194	3,341	3,120	3,155	3,108	3,111	3,371	3,264	3,494
CONNECTICUT	2,839	2,645	2,955	5,295	3,974	2,560	2,897	2,681	2,909	2,657	2,538	2,496	2,537	2,537	2,408	2,596	2,689	2,804
DELAWARE	850	769	881	1,025	1,095	787	848	734	827	698	752	718	769	786	770	741	737	846
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA	494	416	439	730	676	475	425	386	394	403	374	359	407	409	405	446	429	476
FLORIDA	19,236	17,980	19,432	18,964	18,853	18,561	18,372	16,952	18,466	17,671	17,602	16,611	16,913	16,322	15,851	16,635	17,100	18,566
GEORGIA	7,895	7,346	7,937	8,593	8,352	7,494	7,746	6,687	7,527	7,137	7,080	6,736	7,028	6,929	6,776	7,093	7,320	7,612
HAWAII	1,057	1,020	1,014	913	939	941	1,020	929	1,102	963	999	961	988	912	942	918	882	1,000
IDAHO	1,243	1,226	1,335	1,178	1,240	1,237	1,200	1,241	1,272	1,228	1,237	1,196	1,100	1,151	1,158	1,201	1,178	1,269
ILLINOIS	10,081	9,450	10,389	12,769	12,590	9,999	9,749	8,924	9,608	8,872	9,143	8,533	8,637	8,607	8,593	9,343	9,219	9,650
INDIANA	6,193	5,774	6,194	6,665	6,541	5,847	5,817	5,374	5,861	5,437	5,577	5,191	5,231	5,190	5,199	5,590	5,547	5,971
IOWA	2,838	2,637	2,718	2,676	2,910	2,511	2,750	2,492	2,715	2,522	2,477	2,441	2,545	2,440	2,418	2,700	2,591	2,814
KANSAS	2,623	2,344	2,444	2,370	2,376	2,271	2,515	2,252	2,539	2,201	2,277	2,207	2,219	2,122	2,231	2,305	2,293	2,488
KENTUCKY	4,549	4,087	4,340	4,302	4,422	4,118	4,384	3,971	4,468	4,108	4,002	3,916	3,914	3,882	3,879	4,053	4,059	4,451
LOUISIANA	4,225	3,992	4,718	5,732	4,754	4,220	4,131	3,749	4,078	3,706	3,752	3,692	3,657	3,747	3,572	3,792	3,946	4,151
MAINE	1,370	1,286	1,315	1,270	1,254	1,180	1,345	1,197	1,403	1,271	1,197	1,170	1,214	1,219	1,195	1,285	1,244	1,289
MARYLAND	4,531	4,238	4,725	6,073	6,102	4,709	4,573	4,068	4,636	4,241	4,138	3,992	4,047	4,040	3,878	4,274	4,366	4,474
MASSACHUSETTS	5,392	5,032	5,484	9,526	7,612	4,729	5,545	4,886	5,182	4,888	4,716	4,528	4,686	4,629	4,560	4,926	4,895	5,279
MICHIGAN	9,064	8,346	9,789	13,237	9,442	8,357	8,730	7,820	8,703	8,100	8,281	7,820	8,107	7,923	7,842	8,410	8,515	8,888
MINNESOTA	4,274	3,835	4,048	4,145	4,513	4,018	4,101	3,622	3,811	3,621	3,871	3,465	3,616	3,778	3,663	3,864	3,827	4,153
MISSISSIPPI	2,847	2,785	2,953	3,178	3,402	3,148	2,880	2,751	2,843	2,693	2,845	2,618	2,645	2,653	2,522	2,679	2,705	2,938
MISSOURI	5,734	5,385	5,620	5,801	5,646	5,155	5,569	5,122	5,575	5,020	5,230	4,961	5,218	5,014	4,959	5,074	5,325	5,435
MONTANA	933	878	946	838	830	837	954	880	933	875	826	830	834	853	840	860	832	886
NEBRASKA	1,541	1,370	1,490	1,442	1,543	1,402	1,595	1,390	1,460	1,413	1,387	1,280	1,347	1,361	1,337	1,469	1,371	1,566
NEVADA	2,395	2,189	2,265	2,350	2,277	2,242	2,318	2,101	2,251	2,215	2,064	2,065	2,066	2,080	1,993	2,019	2,107	2,232
NEW HAMPSHIRE	1,132	1,044	1,139	1,148	1,227	1,139	1,147	1,071	1,114	1,017	1,036	922	990	1,048	1,001	1,088	1,064	1,168
NEW JERSEY	7,022	6,314	8,048	18,288	9,729	6,371	6,893	6,335	6,717	5,954	6,159	5,888	6,094	5,945	5,774	6,239	6,334	6,936
NEW MEXICO	1,802	1,631	1,690	1,786	1,975	1,832	1,853	1,568	1,736	1,589	1,592	1,554	1,566	1,555	1,596	1,589	1,615	1,711
NEW YORK	14,513	13,320	18,930	41,554	17,967	12,858	14,421	12,790	13,988	12,723	12,846	12,217	12,665	12,340	12,082	13,234	13,070	14,137
NORTH CAROLINA	8,642	8,238	8,756	8,644	8,863	8,130	8,362	8,108	8,437	7,960	8,027	7,728	7,571	7,675	7,506	7,952	7,846	8,576
NORTH DAKOTA	602	581	587	600	593	546	572	509	545	581	608	549	510	556	542	583	585	603
OHIO	11,250	10,344	11,122	11,497	11,671	10,541	11,320	9,711	11,154	10,193	9,993	9,757	9,961	9,929	9,741	10,229	10,418	10,975
OKLAHOMA	3,836	3,473	3,713	3,524	3,467	3,375	3,694	3,424	3,796	3,316	3,327	3,153	3,283	3,263	3,188	3,313	3,477	3,652
OREGON	3,297	3,068	3,384	3,264	3,203	3,062	3,249	2,956	3,417	3,083	3,148	2,970	2,986	2,930	2,968	3,177	3,164	3,295
PENNSYLVANIA	12,377	11,310	11,957	15,254	13,685	11,060	12,278	10,954	12,036	11,054	10,952	10,457	10,576	10,610	10,343	11,199	11,273	12,141
RHODE ISLAND	888	874	932	1,155	1,299	920	988	809	936	825	845	798	817	839	816	855	848	923
SOUTH CAROLINA	4,804	4,406	4,883	4,668	4,792	4,700	4,550	4,157	4,518	4,057	4,363	4,117	4,047	4,112	4,032	4,223	4,206	4,700
SOUTH DAKOTA	717	681	732	682	706	659	721	645	704	703	705	648	641	715	672	698	719	684
TENNESSEE	6,783	5,972	6,570	6,172	6,356	6,198	6,281	5,867	6,166	6,108	6,064	5,761	5,744	5,770	5,648	5,996	5,984	6,580
TEXAS	18,781	17,373	18,296	18,293	18,437	18,861	18,424	16,313	18,012	16,541	16,551	16,084	16,458	16,354	15,767	17,120	17,406	18,547
UTAH	1,710	1,482	1,731	1,607	1,655	1,628	1,717	1,469	1,693	1,524	1,633	1,472	1,523	1,479	1,450	1,558	1,566	1,691
VERMONT	515	521	595	550	518	489	518	478	534	537	455	474	452	458	437	503	507	499
VIRGINIA	6,671	6,046	6,578	6,990	6,800	6,059	6,133	5,764	6,265	5,789	5,910	5,665	5,693	5,727	5,496	5,782	5,847	6,269
WASHINGTON	5,363	4,779	5,433	5,369	4,989	4,692	5,233	4,828	5,304	4,822	4,940	4,604	4,715	4,542	4,450	4,928	4,738	5,095
WEST VIRGINIA	2,221	2,006	2,181	2,069	2,034	1,901	2,196	1,873	2,132	1,975	1,990	1,911	1,827	1,826	1,874	2,024	1,904	2,054
WISCONSIN	4,956	4,660	5,016	4,891	4,802	4,496	4,839	4,213	4,691	4,443	4,513	4,190	4,347	4,422	4,314	4,777	4,562	4,823
WYOMING	496	416	456	450	433	439	444	377	484	373	455	388	418	383	446	437	442	466
PUERTO RICO	2,672	2,544	2,731	2,385	2,438	2,406	2,816	2,415	2,495	2,331	2,541	2,517	2,490	2,411	2,341	2,376	2,509	2,471

Bam! Ouch!!

 

[Contumacious]

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.
.

Most often thats just some bullshit people that can't deal with data say to excuse their inability to make a real refute.

That's just bullshit from people who are naive , gullible and who like to toe the party line .

 

[AntonToo]

After Covid-19? This must be an article from the furture or one of them rightwinger fantasies.

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year. If it's not mostly older people then who the f is it?

For reasonable person the virus has been mostly a non issue since it was discovered that it's one hundredth as lethal as it was thought to be at the start by many. It's rapidly becoming a bad flu - and for most people not even that.

No black death...

Norman, lets get real, you don't know anything about reasonable.

Overall deaths are well above normal and thats true EVERYWHERE with Covid-19 outbreaks.

If you average the low and high number of coronavirus deaths per day since the virus was first detected Jan. 20, 2020, it can only attributed to about one out of ten total deaths each day since then.

"As of November 24, 2020, an average of around 936.5 people per day have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. since the first case was confirmed in the country on January 20th. On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States, based on data from 2019. The daily death toll from seasonal flu, using preliminary maximum estimates from the 2019-2020 influenza season, is an average of almost 332 people. Based on the latest information, more than one in ten deaths each day can be attributed to COVID-19 since January 20th."

U.S. COVID-19 average deaths by day | Statista

And? Death rates are much more stable than many imagine through the annual cycle. So although Covid-19 effects are only a fraction of all the reasons people die it is still plainly visible to anyone not blinded by idiology.

2018 is what a bad flue season looks like, it's not anywhere close to the excess deaths during 2020.

Try looking at a bigger picture, instead of a small slice of history. The number of deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic make this look like a sniffle.

1918 Pandemic lasted 2 years and you are comparing about half a year worth of data (first deaths in March) to that.

Total death count for 1918 pandemic is at about 675,000, so yes, it is worse than the expected 400,000 death toll for Covid-19 occuring 100 years later, in a much more medically and socially advanced age.

So whats your point? That because death toll for 1918 pandemic was worse, 2020 pandemic is not bad?

No, it's not at all that bad. I had it and even though I'm a 70 year old pack a day smoker with COPD, it was gone in three days.

So much for the Great Wupocalypse of 2020. Ho hum.

Good for you, not so good for ~400,000 others in America who have or will die from Covid-19 before next summer.

400k because some "expert" said so?

...who do you think told you about 1918 pandemic? The only difference is you are not politically invested in denying the 1918 pandemic.

 

[JGalt]

Next time he should start with "We at NYC fucked up very badly."

Unbelivable.

You yourself post a chart demonstrating the fuck up...

No I didn't, stfu Norm.

New York was ground zero for the pandemic, we took the first hit in this country, before much was known about the virus.

Well stay inside, wear a mask, wash your hands, and avoid people. That's all I can tell you.

If you think Joe Biden is gonna wave a magic wand. sprinkle some fairy dust on your ass, and make it all go away, don't hold your breath. There's really nothing he can do and all that has been done, was already done by President Donald Trump.

 

[Contumacious]

Next time he should start with "We at NYC fucked up very badly."

Unbelivable.

You yourself post a chart demonstrating the fuck up...

No I didn't, stfu Norm.

New York was ground zero for the pandemic, we took the first hit in this country, before much was known about the virus.

Stop being naive and gullible and listen to the New Yorkers , whistleblowers who expose the fucking scam.

 

[Norman]

Next time he should start with "We at NYC fucked up very badly."

Unbelivable.

You yourself post a chart demonstrating the fuck up...

No I didn't, stfu Norm.

New York was ground zero for the pandemic, we took the first hit in this country, before much was known about the virus.

We shutdown, we wore the masks and we got Covid-19 under controll while the rest of the country that didn't heed the warning was seeing hotspots explode.

You took the hit first...

then why months later... almost no one else has taken a hit?

Perhaps because they did what is reasonable - not sending sick people to elderly homes. NYC was too busy with their power trip to ban religious freedoms to do that. Perhaps if certain people cared more about saving lives and less about putting party and their agenda first, they would have more results to speak for themselves. As of right now, no one can take the BS seriously.

 

[JGalt]

Next time he should start with "We at NYC fucked up very badly."

Unbelivable.

You yourself post a chart demonstrating the fuck up...

No I didn't, stfu Norm.

New York was ground zero for the pandemic, we took the first hit in this country, before much was known about the virus.

Stop being naive and gullible and listen to the New Yorkers , whistleblowers who expose the fucking scam.

She's right. 24,241 deaths so far in NYC alone and Cuomo is still a free man?

That's bullshit.

 

[fncceo]

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year.

Really?
When you factor in the growth rate, the year-on-year US deaths are right where they should be. Apparently,' The Great Viral Apocalypse' (tm) didn't occur.

Year	Death Rate	Growth Rate
2020	8.880	1.120%
2019	8.782	1.120%
2018	8.685	1.220%
2017	8.580	1.240%
2016	8.475	1.270%
2015	8.369	1.270%
2014	8.264	1.290%

 

[Norman]

We are well over 300,000 deaths compared to same period last year.

Really?
When you factor in the growth rate, the year-on-year US deaths are right where they should be. Apparently,' The Great Viral Apocalypse' (tm) didn't occur.

Year	Death Rate	Growth Rate
2020	8.880	1.120%
2019	8.782	1.120%
2018	8.685	1.220%
2017	8.580	1.240%
2016	8.475	1.270%
2015	8.369	1.270%
2014	8.264	1.290%

China should have hired some Spanish scientists...

Maybe they thought the whole country is one big New York.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Although the people who conducted this study find the results “surprising,” I myself do not.

Anyway, this is proof that the panic and hysteria over COVID-19, as well as the lockdowns, closures, cancellations, restrictions, and other authoritarian actions on the part of political leaders, were all completely unjustified.

Johns Hopkins University has just reported the following:

“Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.”

Source: A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19

The virus is killing off people who are already dying.....

Like many other virus's do.