Just an observation

[eagle7_31]

In regards to BO's Japan trip. Germany has acknowledged its Nazi past, but Japan really has not done what Germany did in that vein. While BO dd not apologize directly for the A bomb, he came close.

 

[Dale Smith]

In regards to BO's Japan trip. Germany has acknowledged its Nazi past, but Japan really has not done what Germany did in that vein. While BO dd not apologize directly for the A bomb, he came close.

There could not have been a Nazis without Wall Street and the multi-corporate interests here in the United States. The Luftwaffe could have been grounded at any time because they depended on a certain blend of fuel from Rockefeller's Standard Oil that sold it to the Dutch that in turn gave it to the Nazis. Monarchies also invested in the Nazis and got a hefty return on their investment. Japan was goaded into the war when an oil and steel embargo was placed on Japan. The Japanese code had been broken long before Pearl Harbor so they knew that an attack was imminent. I have also seen enough evidence for me to come to the realization that some of the sailors that were in ships that were sunk were alive for as long as two weeks and no effort was made to rescue them.

The Japanese offered to surrender months before the dropping of the A-bomb, their condition was that they keep their government intact but because Japan had given the boot to the Jesuit Order more than a few times. Nagasaki was full of Japanese Christians so the dropping of that bomb was pay back. Our "gubermint" is full of Jesuit educate trained soldiers and it is the military arm of the Vatican.

 

[mamooth]

The Japanese offered to surrender months before the dropping of the A-bomb, their condition was that they keep their government intact

No, that's a fiction. The condition Japan offered was that everyone return to pre-war boundaries and call it a draw. That offer was obviously instantly rejected, being that winners have no incentive to accept an offer from the loser to call it a draw.

 

[Dale Smith]

The Japanese offered to surrender months before the dropping of the A-bomb, their condition was that they keep their government intact

No, that's a fiction. The condition Japan offered was that everyone return to pre-war boundaries and call it a draw. That offer was obviously instantly rejected, being that winners have no incentive to accept an offer from the loser to call it a draw.

Provide a link because I can provide quotes from military leaders like Eisenhower, MacArthur,General Curtis LeMay that say otherwise.......

 

[mamooth]

Actually, you'll just link to various conspiracy blog pieces, with quotes from those people that don't support the claim you're making. This piece gives an overview of the history of the "Japan wanted to surrender!" hoaxes.

Articles: Hiroshima Hoax: Japan's 'Wllingness to Surrender Before the Bomb

 

[Dale Smith]

Actually, you'll just link to various conspiracy blog pieces, with quotes from those people that don't support the claim you're making. This piece gives an overview of the history of the "Japan wanted to surrender!" hoaxes.

Articles: Hiroshima Hoax: Japan's 'Wllingness to Surrender Before the Bomb

I want to see your links where you claim that Japan wanted to keep pre-war boundaries as a condition of surrendering.........where are they???/

 

[mamooth]

From my previous link

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The message Truman cited did not refer to anything even remotely resembling surrender. It referred instead to the Japanese foreign office's attempt (under the suspicious eyes of the military) to persuade the Soviet Union to broker a negotiated peace that would have permitted the Japanese to retain their prewar empire and their imperial system (not just the emperor) intact. No American president could have accepted such a settlement, as it would have meant abandoning the United States' most basic war aims.
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