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On top of being a bald-faced liar, you suck at math too. 120.61 to 401.58 is a 233% increase, not a 350% increase.Other societies have figure this out, we don't want it figured out here.
Are you kidding me, Fenton? That's your response? You progressives shoved this bill down the throats of everyone in this country and now healthcare costs are exploding and your only response is that we need to figure it out? HOW ABOUT FIGURING IT OUT BEFORE YOU PASSED LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTED 1/6 OF OUR ECONOMY AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!! YOU ASSHAT!!!
Company/ Requested Premium Change / Approved
Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Florida, Inc. 14.5% 19.0%
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Florida Blue -- up 19.0%, not 350%.
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever??
Changes you'll see to your plan in 2017
Your new premium
* Your 2016 monthly premium is $120.61.
This reflects a monthly premium of $743.61 minus 623.00 of financial help per month.
* Starting in January, your estimated monthly premium will be $401.58.
Look how much healthcare went up from 2000-2008. Yes healthcare needs to be fixed. We should have never let the insurance giants write it. Single payer is what we need.Clearly you don't make enough money to be voting Republican.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
And who knows what to believe. You've been so anti hillary since you got here in 2012. Your first post is a Benghazi thread. Do you know how many Benghazis happened on bush and Reagan's watch?
So you are a partisan hack. I hope your premiums bankrupt your stupid broke ass.
I'm a Middle Class American. I used to have healthcare coverage that was affordable and I could see my long time doctor with that healthcare plan. Then you progressives "fixed" healthcare with the Affordable Care Act and I now longer can see that doctor because he's not taking ObamaCare patients and my healthcare premiums will be going up 350% as of January. My ass isn't broke yet but if you clowns get to run things for much longer...it probably WILL be!
Take out the profit motive
Oh, for the love of God! The insurance giants didn't write the Affordable Care Act...that was written by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, voted into being by Democrats and signed by Barack Obama! I'm sorry, Faun...but you guys OWN ObamaCare...lock stock and barrel!
You know what it probably is? He wants to be a PPO or an HMO instead of visa versa and it's a lot cheaper to do the one he doesn't want well too bad. If you have to go to a different doctor so what? I've had 100 doctors. I'm not married to any of them.On top of being a bald-faced liar, you suck at math too. 120.61 to 401.58 is a 233% increase, not a 350% increase.Other societies have figure this out, we don't want it figured out here.
Are you kidding me, Fenton? That's your response? You progressives shoved this bill down the throats of everyone in this country and now healthcare costs are exploding and your only response is that we need to figure it out? HOW ABOUT FIGURING IT OUT BEFORE YOU PASSED LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTED 1/6 OF OUR ECONOMY AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!! YOU ASSHAT!!!
Company/ Requested Premium Change / Approved
Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Florida, Inc. 14.5% 19.0%
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Florida Blue -- up 19.0%, not 350%.
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever??
Changes you'll see to your plan in 2017
Your new premium
* Your 2016 monthly premium is $120.61.
This reflects a monthly premium of $743.61 minus 623.00 of financial help per month.
* Starting in January, your estimated monthly premium will be $401.58.
Look how much healthcare went up from 2000-2008. Yes healthcare needs to be fixed. We should have never let the insurance giants write it. Single payer is what we need.Clearly you don't make enough money to be voting Republican.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
And who knows what to believe. You've been so anti hillary since you got here in 2012. Your first post is a Benghazi thread. Do you know how many Benghazis happened on bush and Reagan's watch?
So you are a partisan hack. I hope your premiums bankrupt your stupid broke ass.
I'm a Middle Class American. I used to have healthcare coverage that was affordable and I could see my long time doctor with that healthcare plan. Then you progressives "fixed" healthcare with the Affordable Care Act and I now longer can see that doctor because he's not taking ObamaCare patients and my healthcare premiums will be going up 350% as of January. My ass isn't broke yet but if you clowns get to run things for much longer...it probably WILL be!
Take out the profit motive
Oh, for the love of God! The insurance giants didn't write the Affordable Care Act...that was written by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, voted into being by Democrats and signed by Barack Obama! I'm sorry, Faun...but you guys OWN ObamaCare...lock stock and barrel!
And you're still lying. Florida Blue increased their premiums by 19%. Not 350%. Not 233%. 19%.
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever???
No, it's not that. That putz is a serial liar. Can't tell you how many times I've caught him lying. Even now, he just makes up numbers which don't even equal a 350% increase as he falsely claimed. If he really is on Florida Blue as he claims, his premium is going up 19%, just like everyone else on it.You know what it probably is? He wants to be a PPO or an HMO instead of visa versa and it's a lot cheaper to do the one he doesn't want well too bad. If you have to go to a different doctor so what? I've had 100 doctors. I'm not married to any of them.On top of being a bald-faced liar, you suck at math too. 120.61 to 401.58 is a 233% increase, not a 350% increase.Other societies have figure this out, we don't want it figured out here.
Are you kidding me, Fenton? That's your response? You progressives shoved this bill down the throats of everyone in this country and now healthcare costs are exploding and your only response is that we need to figure it out? HOW ABOUT FIGURING IT OUT BEFORE YOU PASSED LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTED 1/6 OF OUR ECONOMY AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!! YOU ASSHAT!!!
Company/ Requested Premium Change / Approved
Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Florida, Inc. 14.5% 19.0%
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Florida Blue -- up 19.0%, not 350%.
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever??
Changes you'll see to your plan in 2017
Your new premium
* Your 2016 monthly premium is $120.61.
This reflects a monthly premium of $743.61 minus 623.00 of financial help per month.
* Starting in January, your estimated monthly premium will be $401.58.
Look how much healthcare went up from 2000-2008. Yes healthcare needs to be fixed. We should have never let the insurance giants write it. Single payer is what we need.Clearly you don't make enough money to be voting Republican.
And who knows what to believe. You've been so anti hillary since you got here in 2012. Your first post is a Benghazi thread. Do you know how many Benghazis happened on bush and Reagan's watch?
So you are a partisan hack. I hope your premiums bankrupt your stupid broke ass.
I'm a Middle Class American. I used to have healthcare coverage that was affordable and I could see my long time doctor with that healthcare plan. Then you progressives "fixed" healthcare with the Affordable Care Act and I now longer can see that doctor because he's not taking ObamaCare patients and my healthcare premiums will be going up 350% as of January. My ass isn't broke yet but if you clowns get to run things for much longer...it probably WILL be!
Take out the profit motive
Oh, for the love of God! The insurance giants didn't write the Affordable Care Act...that was written by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, voted into being by Democrats and signed by Barack Obama! I'm sorry, Faun...but you guys OWN ObamaCare...lock stock and barrel!
And you're still lying. Florida Blue increased their premiums by 19%. Not 350%. Not 233%. 19%.
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever???
On top of being a bald-faced liar, you suck at math too. 120.61 to 401.58 is a 233% increase, not a 350% increase.Other societies have figure this out, we don't want it figured out here.
Are you kidding me, Fenton? That's your response? You progressives shoved this bill down the throats of everyone in this country and now healthcare costs are exploding and your only response is that we need to figure it out? HOW ABOUT FIGURING IT OUT BEFORE YOU PASSED LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTED 1/6 OF OUR ECONOMY AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!! YOU ASSHAT!!!
Company/ Requested Premium Change / Approved
Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Florida, Inc. 14.5% 19.0%
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Florida Blue -- up 19.0%, not 350%.
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever??
Changes you'll see to your plan in 2017
Your new premium
* Your 2016 monthly premium is $120.61.
This reflects a monthly premium of $743.61 minus 623.00 of financial help per month.
* Starting in January, your estimated monthly premium will be $401.58.
Look how much healthcare went up from 2000-2008. Yes healthcare needs to be fixed. We should have never let the insurance giants write it. Single payer is what we need.Clearly you don't make enough money to be voting Republican.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
And who knows what to believe. You've been so anti hillary since you got here in 2012. Your first post is a Benghazi thread. Do you know how many Benghazis happened on bush and Reagan's watch?
So you are a partisan hack. I hope your premiums bankrupt your stupid broke ass.
I'm a Middle Class American. I used to have healthcare coverage that was affordable and I could see my long time doctor with that healthcare plan. Then you progressives "fixed" healthcare with the Affordable Care Act and I now longer can see that doctor because he's not taking ObamaCare patients and my healthcare premiums will be going up 350% as of January. My ass isn't broke yet but if you clowns get to run things for much longer...it probably WILL be!
Take out the profit motive
Oh, for the love of God! The insurance giants didn't write the Affordable Care Act...that was written by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, voted into being by Democrats and signed by Barack Obama! I'm sorry, Faun...but you guys OWN ObamaCare...lock stock and barrel!
And you're still lying. Florida Blue increased their premiums by 19%. Not 350%. Not 233%. 19%.
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever???
Lying retard ... your numbers didn't even add up to a 350% increase. And Florida Blue premiums increased by 19% -- which was the max they were allowed to go up.On top of being a bald-faced liar, you suck at math too. 120.61 to 401.58 is a 233% increase, not a 350% increase.Other societies have figure this out, we don't want it figured out here.
Are you kidding me, Fenton? That's your response? You progressives shoved this bill down the throats of everyone in this country and now healthcare costs are exploding and your only response is that we need to figure it out? HOW ABOUT FIGURING IT OUT BEFORE YOU PASSED LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTED 1/6 OF OUR ECONOMY AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!! YOU ASSHAT!!!
Company/ Requested Premium Change / Approved
Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Florida, Inc. 14.5% 19.0%
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Florida Blue -- up 19.0%, not 350%.
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever??
Changes you'll see to your plan in 2017
Your new premium
* Your 2016 monthly premium is $120.61.
This reflects a monthly premium of $743.61 minus 623.00 of financial help per month.
* Starting in January, your estimated monthly premium will be $401.58.
Look how much healthcare went up from 2000-2008. Yes healthcare needs to be fixed. We should have never let the insurance giants write it. Single payer is what we need.Clearly you don't make enough money to be voting Republican.
And who knows what to believe. You've been so anti hillary since you got here in 2012. Your first post is a Benghazi thread. Do you know how many Benghazis happened on bush and Reagan's watch?
So you are a partisan hack. I hope your premiums bankrupt your stupid broke ass.
I'm a Middle Class American. I used to have healthcare coverage that was affordable and I could see my long time doctor with that healthcare plan. Then you progressives "fixed" healthcare with the Affordable Care Act and I now longer can see that doctor because he's not taking ObamaCare patients and my healthcare premiums will be going up 350% as of January. My ass isn't broke yet but if you clowns get to run things for much longer...it probably WILL be!
Take out the profit motive
Oh, for the love of God! The insurance giants didn't write the Affordable Care Act...that was written by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, voted into being by Democrats and signed by Barack Obama! I'm sorry, Faun...but you guys OWN ObamaCare...lock stock and barrel!
And you're still lying. Florida Blue increased their premiums by 19%. Not 350%. Not 233%. 19%.
Why Florida OKed higher 2017 premiums than health insurers sought
Do you ever stop lying, ya con tool?
Ever???
You provide "articles" saying how much my insurance premiums will be going up and I provide the actual increase...but I'm the liar? Would you like to inform Florida Blue that I only have to PAY 19% because you have an article from last summer saying that's what the increase will be? I'd really appreciate that, Faun!
Tell you what...you make that call and if you can't get them to take a 19% increase then how about you and Sealy pick up the rest of my bill? Since I'm "lying" about it then it shouldn't be a problem for you two...right?
You are comparing employee coverage that you got from your employer to an individual policy on the exchange. Why is that?nahhh, If he receives subsidy, the subsidy will go up to cover the higher costs is what I had read.... those in need and on the exchange don't get hurtWhat it tells me is that he's a low wage earner looking to be subsidized by taxpayersIf yours is going up 350% with an Obamacare policy, and Fenton's is going up 400% with a non-Obamacare policy, what does that tell you?You might pass that information along to Ravi...who thinks I'm lying when I say my premiums are going up 350%!
Think about it before posting.
Ok, well, now I have concrete absolute proof of our claim.
View attachment 96373
Here was my old plan.
$80, which was $20 higher than the previous plan.
Here's what it's saying now.
View attachment 96375
$125 a month. I can't afford that. Thus ends my health insurance. Can't afford that.
From $60 to $125? Nah, sorry. Doubled my premiums in 2 years.
And by the way, the $60 had a $2,500 deductible. The $80 had a $5,000 deductible. Now it will be a $7,150 deductible.
You people... just live in your stupid socialists bubble, where your heros on high tell you endlessly how much better everything is, and ignore the voices of the people who actually live in the real world, facing the real costs..... even though they are the very people you claim to want to help.
Since I can't afford health insurance, I'll just go to the ER if I get sick, and you morons can foot 100% of the bill.
How many millions will drop their HC next year because they can't afford the 350% increase?Huh? Really? After all this time, you never heard the facts?
First of, according to the US census, 40% of those without insurance, were making over $50,000 a year. If you make over $50,000 a year and don't have insurance, it's because you bought a house, car, beer, and speed boat, instead of getting insurance.
Further, 20% of those, were living in households making $75K or more. No excuses.
Only 30% made less than $25,000 a year.
Moreover, about 10% are illegals, which you claim can't get ObamaCare. So why are you complaining they don't have insurance?
Lastly, because they choose to not get insurance. There's a video on YouTube where a reporter asked this girl in California, why she didn't have insurance. She was single, no kids, and had a middle class income. "Well it's too expensive". So they punched in her information, and found she could qualify for a basic health insurance plan and pay just $90 a month. She said straight up "well I think it's ridiculous that I have to pay for health care".
Even more ironic, later in the interview she openly admitted that she easily spent $800 a month on eating out.
I myself went years without health insurance. It was a choice. I could afford it... but choose not to have it. Similarly I know other people who bought health insurance, and then canceled it. They said very openly... why have it? I don't need it. So why pay for it?
Extremely few people simply can't afford health insurance.
And as a final note, even of those, the US Census found that 30% of the uninsured qualified for government insurance, and simply choose to not enroll in Medicaid or S-CHIP, or other programs.
That's why people don't have insurance. It's a choice.
Facts huh?
http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
Here are some facts.
In 2007 (looking at pg 22) 45 million people were uninsured which appears to be 15% of the population.
8 million of these were under 18 years old. 33 million of these were native born with 9.7 million not being naturalized citizens. This doesn't mean they're illegal, it means they're not citizens, some of these could potentially be foreigner workers in the US with legal status.
The South is the area with the highest amount, at 18% of the population.
13 million of these people earned less than $25,000
14.5 million between $25,000 and $50,000.
25.4% of those are people who didn't work. Remember that this was 2007 before the crash.
Only 7.8%, not 20% as you stated, live in households earning more than $75,000 a year.
Some people might have chosen not to get health insurance. That's not really the point. In the UK you don't have this choice, you pay if you work, and it gets taken out of your wages.
Then when the shit hits the fan, they're covered regardless.
But you're using lots of numbers to say this isn't many people. I disagree.
$13.5 million people didn't have health insurance and probably couldn't afford it. That's a lot of people in my view. But you think those $13.5 million people should just be ignored because.... why exactly?
Is everyone going to get a 350% increase? We have one person claiming they have such a rise.
But then again this is more reason to get rid of insurance companies altogether and go for a Nationalized health service.
Yeah, then we can wait 3 years to get health care.... but at least it will be cheap. Instead of Canadians coming to the US to get care, we and the Canadians will have to got to Mexico.
Socialized care is the VA. Have you not been paying attention? The VA sucks. Even my brother in law that came back from Iraq, paid for health care after realizing it would be years before he was seen.
You morons.
3 years to wait? Only if people start playing around with it. Some people in the US didn't wait three years, they just died. But hey.
Just because VA sucks, doesn't mean healthcare that is nationalized has to suck. I know people who have gone through nationalized healthcare and come out of it pretty well.
How many millions will drop their HC next year because they can't afford the 350% increase?Facts huh?
http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
Here are some facts.
In 2007 (looking at pg 22) 45 million people were uninsured which appears to be 15% of the population.
8 million of these were under 18 years old. 33 million of these were native born with 9.7 million not being naturalized citizens. This doesn't mean they're illegal, it means they're not citizens, some of these could potentially be foreigner workers in the US with legal status.
The South is the area with the highest amount, at 18% of the population.
13 million of these people earned less than $25,000
14.5 million between $25,000 and $50,000.
25.4% of those are people who didn't work. Remember that this was 2007 before the crash.
Only 7.8%, not 20% as you stated, live in households earning more than $75,000 a year.
Some people might have chosen not to get health insurance. That's not really the point. In the UK you don't have this choice, you pay if you work, and it gets taken out of your wages.
Then when the shit hits the fan, they're covered regardless.
But you're using lots of numbers to say this isn't many people. I disagree.
$13.5 million people didn't have health insurance and probably couldn't afford it. That's a lot of people in my view. But you think those $13.5 million people should just be ignored because.... why exactly?
Is everyone going to get a 350% increase? We have one person claiming they have such a rise.
But then again this is more reason to get rid of insurance companies altogether and go for a Nationalized health service.
Yeah, then we can wait 3 years to get health care.... but at least it will be cheap. Instead of Canadians coming to the US to get care, we and the Canadians will have to got to Mexico.
Socialized care is the VA. Have you not been paying attention? The VA sucks. Even my brother in law that came back from Iraq, paid for health care after realizing it would be years before he was seen.
You morons.
3 years to wait? Only if people start playing around with it. Some people in the US didn't wait three years, they just died. But hey.
Just because VA sucks, doesn't mean healthcare that is nationalized has to suck. I know people who have gone through nationalized healthcare and come out of it pretty well.
No, you don't understand. There are people in Canada, who waited 3 years to get needed surgery. They didn't play around with it. They flat out were told to wait, and they did.... and years... YEARS went by before they got care.
One lady in her 40s needed knee surgery, couldn't walk until they got her the surgery. Lost her job. Lost her life. Couldn't do anything. In pain all the time.
Three years for the first knee, and she was had already waited one year at the time of the interview for the second knee.
And yes, people died waiting for things like cancer surgery, and MRIs, and CT Scans, in Canada.
Why do you think the public sued the government, and forced them to give them the option of private health care? Because socialized health care sucks. You die on waiting lists.
Which is exactly what happened with the VA.
Of course some people come through socialized health care and it works. If all you need is a splint on a broken arm, Socialized care is great.... as long as you pay the 50% tax rate to fund it.
The problem is, you pay that tax rate, and then you end up needing private insurance anyway, like most Euro countries have, and even with that, you often end up having to go out of the country to get care.
Socialized care never works.
One of your comparative MemeIts listed the cost for an employee.You are comparing employee coverage that you got from your employer to an individual policy on the exchange. Why is that?nahhh, If he receives subsidy, the subsidy will go up to cover the higher costs is what I had read.... those in need and on the exchange don't get hurtWhat it tells me is that he's a low wage earner looking to be subsidized by taxpayersIf yours is going up 350% with an Obamacare policy, and Fenton's is going up 400% with a non-Obamacare policy, what does that tell you?
Think about it before posting.
Ok, well, now I have concrete absolute proof of our claim.
View attachment 96373
Here was my old plan.
$80, which was $20 higher than the previous plan.
Here's what it's saying now.
View attachment 96375
$125 a month. I can't afford that. Thus ends my health insurance. Can't afford that.
From $60 to $125? Nah, sorry. Doubled my premiums in 2 years.
And by the way, the $60 had a $2,500 deductible. The $80 had a $5,000 deductible. Now it will be a $7,150 deductible.
You people... just live in your stupid socialists bubble, where your heros on high tell you endlessly how much better everything is, and ignore the voices of the people who actually live in the real world, facing the real costs..... even though they are the very people you claim to want to help.
Since I can't afford health insurance, I'll just go to the ER if I get sick, and you morons can foot 100% of the bill.
Who said I was comparing employer to an individual policy?
All three that I mentioned were private insurance policies.
If you've read my posts about my life, you know I rarely ever stay long at any job. I constantly had to chance insurance over and over, and finally realize it was better to just have private insurance.... or at least it was better to have private insurance.
You used to be able to get basic coverage for a very low price until Obama Care screwed it all up.
The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
Hilarious how the left are sprinting away from responsibility of inventing and shoving thru Obamacare.How many millions will drop their HC next year because they can't afford the 350% increase?
Is everyone going to get a 350% increase? We have one person claiming they have such a rise.
But then again this is more reason to get rid of insurance companies altogether and go for a Nationalized health service.
Yeah, then we can wait 3 years to get health care.... but at least it will be cheap. Instead of Canadians coming to the US to get care, we and the Canadians will have to got to Mexico.
Socialized care is the VA. Have you not been paying attention? The VA sucks. Even my brother in law that came back from Iraq, paid for health care after realizing it would be years before he was seen.
You morons.
3 years to wait? Only if people start playing around with it. Some people in the US didn't wait three years, they just died. But hey.
Just because VA sucks, doesn't mean healthcare that is nationalized has to suck. I know people who have gone through nationalized healthcare and come out of it pretty well.
No, you don't understand. There are people in Canada, who waited 3 years to get needed surgery. They didn't play around with it. They flat out were told to wait, and they did.... and years... YEARS went by before they got care.
One lady in her 40s needed knee surgery, couldn't walk until they got her the surgery. Lost her job. Lost her life. Couldn't do anything. In pain all the time.
Three years for the first knee, and she was had already waited one year at the time of the interview for the second knee.
And yes, people died waiting for things like cancer surgery, and MRIs, and CT Scans, in Canada.
Why do you think the public sued the government, and forced them to give them the option of private health care? Because socialized health care sucks. You die on waiting lists.
Which is exactly what happened with the VA.
Of course some people come through socialized health care and it works. If all you need is a splint on a broken arm, Socialized care is great.... as long as you pay the 50% tax rate to fund it.
The problem is, you pay that tax rate, and then you end up needing private insurance anyway, like most Euro countries have, and even with that, you often end up having to go out of the country to get care.
Socialized care never works.
It does elswhere, for less cost to society, and yours does not. And it did not before the Heritage Foundation hatched "obamacare". You have the most expensive health"care" system on the planet with pretty shitty outcomes relative to other systems in advanced industrialized nations.
You chose this, and you still choose this, you just said so, so stop your whining.
Leftist compassion on display.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
*yawn*
Wow, you are a whiny little bitch.Leftist compassion on display.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
*yawn*
I quit BCBS in 06 because they raised my rates by 32% beginning 07 from $1700 yr to $2250 yr for COB.Quite a shock what's happening to dental insurance rates. I have CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield BlueDental Preferred in Maryland. When I first got the insurance in 2015 the cost was $78.00 per calendar quarter. In 2016 the cost when up to $102 per calendar quarter. Now I'm informed that the cost in 2017 will be $138 per calendar quarter! The only claims I filed in 2016 were for two routine dental cleanings and exams.
Did you learn that rebuttal on the playground today during recess?Wow, you are a whiny little bitch.Leftist compassion on display.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
*yawn*
Not me, weather. I know Obamacare needs tweaks, but I also remember being at the mercy of the insurers, and I do not want to go back to that.Hilarious how the left are sprinting away from responsibility of inventing and shoving thru Obamacare.Is everyone going to get a 350% increase? We have one person claiming they have such a rise.
But then again this is more reason to get rid of insurance companies altogether and go for a Nationalized health service.
Yeah, then we can wait 3 years to get health care.... but at least it will be cheap. Instead of Canadians coming to the US to get care, we and the Canadians will have to got to Mexico.
Socialized care is the VA. Have you not been paying attention? The VA sucks. Even my brother in law that came back from Iraq, paid for health care after realizing it would be years before he was seen.
You morons.
3 years to wait? Only if people start playing around with it. Some people in the US didn't wait three years, they just died. But hey.
Just because VA sucks, doesn't mean healthcare that is nationalized has to suck. I know people who have gone through nationalized healthcare and come out of it pretty well.
No, you don't understand. There are people in Canada, who waited 3 years to get needed surgery. They didn't play around with it. They flat out were told to wait, and they did.... and years... YEARS went by before they got care.
One lady in her 40s needed knee surgery, couldn't walk until they got her the surgery. Lost her job. Lost her life. Couldn't do anything. In pain all the time.
Three years for the first knee, and she was had already waited one year at the time of the interview for the second knee.
And yes, people died waiting for things like cancer surgery, and MRIs, and CT Scans, in Canada.
Why do you think the public sued the government, and forced them to give them the option of private health care? Because socialized health care sucks. You die on waiting lists.
Which is exactly what happened with the VA.
Of course some people come through socialized health care and it works. If all you need is a splint on a broken arm, Socialized care is great.... as long as you pay the 50% tax rate to fund it.
The problem is, you pay that tax rate, and then you end up needing private insurance anyway, like most Euro countries have, and even with that, you often end up having to go out of the country to get care.
Socialized care never works.
It does elswhere, for less cost to society, and yours does not. And it did not before the Heritage Foundation hatched "obamacare". You have the most expensive health"care" system on the planet with pretty shitty outcomes relative to other systems in advanced industrialized nations.
You chose this, and you still choose this, you just said so, so stop your whining.
It's a dead corpse shackled to them.
The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
*yawn*
