Kansas lawmakers pass adoption bill against gay couples

[Lysistrata]

Since the Lord created two kinds of parents, moms and dads that is, in my opinion, every child should have one of each.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

The Lord created gays

You don't even believe in the Lord, so STFU.

And he didn't "create" gays. Just like he didn't create sinners. People choose to sin, people choose to be gay. The Lord creates life, what that life does is up to them.

But homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. However, it's not my place to judge. That's up to God himself.

Dumbshit comment. People are created as created. You sound like you are parroting some ignorant southern baptist boob or some other pathetic fundie.

I thank the Lord that I was created with the hetero gene.

#HeteroPride.

What "lord"? Yeah, I got the "hetero gene," too. But I don't go around insulting people who got the "other" genes. What's that about? "Hetero pride," my ass. I happen to be female and the only people I've ever been attracted to were male. I never had to "come out of the closet" and stop hiding the fact that I am heterosexual like the LGBTs had to do. If you had any "pride," it would be as a heterosexual WOMAN, who decides which man she will welcome in her bed and which she will not, and stop kowtowing to heterosexual men who want to program us to have sex on their command. Being a "proud" straight woman means that we make our own choices, Sometimes it's "yes;" and sometimes it's "no." If you're so proud, you would understand this fundamental concept. Stand up for heterosexual women for a change.

 

[rightwinger]

Since the Lord created two kinds of parents, moms and dads that is, in my opinion, every child should have one of each.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

The Lord created gays

You don't even believe in the Lord, so STFU.

And he didn't "create" gays. Just like he didn't create sinners. People choose to sin, people choose to be gay. The Lord creates life, what that life does is up to them.

But homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. However, it's not my place to judge. That's up to God himself.

Of course he created them

Are you saying God made a mistake

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Why are conservatives always such assholes when it comes to homosexuals?

It's really the government they tend to hate. You, of course, love it since it keeps you in clothing.

My guess is that homosexuals would assimilate quite well if they were not so fucking militant about it.

But, nooooooooooo, they just have to have it their way and in the course of things screw up institutions that have been around longer than the gay rights movement.

Most gays I know think all this is bullshit and wish the headline grabbers would move out of the country.

An oppressed minority becomes militant out of necessity . They have that right and a obligation to them selves to fight back against discrimination and marginalization. Bitching about their militancy makes you sound exactly like the racial bigots who complain about uppity blacks who don't know their place.

LGBT people have come a long way but in some ways still have much to overcome. They are still subject to discrimination in housing, employment and, as we see here adoption. The fact is, that in progressive states like New Jersey where I am, they have assimilated quite well. It is not an issue and no one notices or cares that they live among us as productive and responsible citizens and family people . There is no militancy here because there is no need for it, unlike in Kansas and other places. . Ask your self how passive you would be if you were denied the right of full participation in society, and equal protection under the law based on some arbitrary characteristic or membership in a certain group.

Out of necessity ?

What necessity ?

Many groups have assimilated with no militancy.

Now, thanks for the lecture.

Only I lived in California for six years...where things are so progressive. And cities like Concord and Walnut Creek were forced to allow Gay Pride parandes where gay men would wear leather outfits that were simply gross. And women would wear outfits that challenged people to tell them they were sick. So, they didn't assimilate naturally...but they pushed themselves on people in a way that nobody else has.

And somehow you think you can tell others that it's O.K. for them to be militant...but you (being the tolerant motherfucker that you are) can call others bigotted for being militant back.

Kiss my ass.

Geezzzzz dude. It sounds like you're another one here who needs some anger management help. Your the one going all militant now and I seriously doubt if you really have anything to gripe about.

You ask what the necessity for being militant is?? That alone tells me a lot about you. You think that gays folks should just shut up an be thankful for what they achieved, and shut up about the small stuff like employment discrimination, public accomodations and adoption, don't you?

Why don't you settle down and explain what's really troubling you. I doubt that its just about parades. California has not always been so gay friendly. When were you there to witness these horrific spectacles? In any case, I doubt if that is what this is really all about. I stand by my assessment of your attitude. I want to silence gays for speaking out and demanding their rights, and when they do you bleat about militancy ..JUST LIKE others did - and still do , when complaining about "uppity Negroes "

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

May 4 (Reuters) - The Kansas Legislature on Friday approved a bill that allows faith-based adoption agencies to turn away gay and lesbian couples based on religious beliefs, and the state's governor said he would sign it.

Under the measure, the Kansas Department for Children and Families cannot block any foster or adoption agency, including those that receive public funds, from participating in its programs only because it refuses to adopt or place children with gay people.

Opponents of the bill said they will likely mount a legal challenge.

Kansas lawmakers pass adoption bill critics say is biased against gay couples

Mixed emotions about this. As with ALL adoptions, every couple should pass a rigid strict test of some sort to make sure they are of sound mind. Which should already be the case, right?
And....if the agency that is handling the adoption states it is against their religious beliefs, that should be protected. Parents wanting to adopt can do so from other agencies that are not religious in nature, one would think.

Your thoughts?

Sexual perverts and control of kids, what could possibly go wrong?

Ignorant, bigoted , bovine excrement!

 

[dblack]

Since the law says gay can legally marry, they should be treated like all married couples. Even single people can adopt.

What if it's not an agency? In your view, if a pregnant woman wants to give her baby up for adoption, should she be allowed to discriminate regarding the potential parents?

 

[Penelope]

Since the law says gay can legally marry, they should be treated like all married couples. Even single people can adopt.

What if it's not an agency? In your view, if a pregnant woman wants to give her baby up for adoption, should she be allowed to discriminate regarding the potential parents?

Nope!

 

[Wry Catcher]

May 4 (Reuters) - The Kansas Legislature on Friday approved a bill that allows faith-based adoption agencies to turn away gay and lesbian couples based on religious beliefs, and the state's governor said he would sign it.

Under the measure, the Kansas Department for Children and Families cannot block any foster or adoption agency, including those that receive public funds, from participating in its programs only because it refuses to adopt or place children with gay people.

Opponents of the bill said they will likely mount a legal challenge.

Kansas lawmakers pass adoption bill critics say is biased against gay couples

Mixed emotions about this. As with ALL adoptions, every couple should pass a rigid strict test of some sort to make sure they are of sound mind. Which should already be the case, right?
And....if the agency that is handling the adoption states it is against their religious beliefs, that should be protected. Parents wanting to adopt can do so from other agencies that are not religious in nature, one would think.

Your thoughts?

Odd how Jesus freaks act when faced with the question: What would Jesus do? One more contradiction that the Social Conservative Movement thrives on hypocrisy.

 

[dblack]

Since the law says gay can legally marry, they should be treated like all married couples. Even single people can adopt.

What if it's not an agency? In your view, if a pregnant woman wants to give her baby up for adoption, should she be allowed to discriminate regarding the potential parents?

Nope!

Really? Wow. What about in choosing the men she has sex with? Should she be allowed to discriminate on that?

 

[airplanemechanic]

That's because Republicans hate gay people. In fact, it's well known gays are at the top the GOP hate list.

This is the list:

1. Gays
2. Muslims
3. Blacks
4. Hispanics
5. Liberals
6. Jews
7. Women's rights
8. Sick and disabled
9. College professors
10. Scientists

Is does occasionally change a little. Where Jews are used to be the poor. But I think the poor has fallen out of the top 10. But when October comes and those healthcare subsidies end, they will come roaring back into the top ten.

Liberals hate:

1. Republicans
2. Christians
3, Jews
4. Hard workers
5. White people
6. Gun owners
7. Guns and bullets
8. The constitution
9. The bill of rights
10. America

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

That's because Republicans hate gay people. In fact, it's well known gays are at the top the GOP hate list.

This is the list:

1. Gays
2. Muslims
3. Blacks
4. Hispanics
5. Liberals
6. Jews
7. Women's rights
8. Sick and disabled
9. College professors
10. Scientists

Is does occasionally change a little. Where Jews are used to be the poor. But I think the poor has fallen out of the top 10. But when October comes and those healthcare subsidies end, they will come roaring back into the top ten.

Liberals hate:

1. Republicans
2. Christians
3, Jews
4. Hard workers
5. White people
6. Gun owners
7. Guns and bullets
8. The constitution
9. The bill of rights
10. America

Inane Equine Excrement!

 

[airplanemechanic]

That's because Republicans hate gay people. In fact, it's well known gays are at the top the GOP hate list.

This is the list:

1. Gays
2. Muslims
3. Blacks
4. Hispanics
5. Liberals
6. Jews
7. Women's rights
8. Sick and disabled
9. College professors
10. Scientists

Is does occasionally change a little. Where Jews are used to be the poor. But I think the poor has fallen out of the top 10. But when October comes and those healthcare subsidies end, they will come roaring back into the top ten.

Liberals hate:

1. Republicans
2. Christians
3, Jews
4. Hard workers
5. White people
6. Gun owners
7. Guns and bullets
8. The constitution
9. The bill of rights
10. America

Inane Equine Excrement!

 

[airplanemechanic]

Saying republicans hate Jews when its republicans who go out of their way to defend Israel and the liberal left goes out of its way to say Israel is evil....I'm not quite sure how THAT got on the republican "hate" list.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Saying republicans hate Jews when its republicans who go out of their way to defend Israel and the liberal left goes out of its way to say Israel is evil....I'm not quite sure how THAT got on the republican "hate" list.

You're a bit off topic don't you think? Why don't you start a thread about who hates or supports Israel and the relationship between anti Semitism and the support of Israel ?

 

[Aba Incieni]

Since the Lord created two kinds of parents, moms and dads that is, in my opinion, every child should have one of each.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

The Lord created gays

You don't even believe in the Lord, so STFU.

And he didn't "create" gays. Just like he didn't create sinners. People choose to sin, people choose to be gay. The Lord creates life, what that life does is up to them.

But homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. However, it's not my place to judge. That's up to God himself.

Dumbshit comment. People are created as created. You sound like you are parroting some ignorant southern baptist boob or some other pathetic fundie.

I thank the Lord that I was created with the hetero gene.

#HeteroPride.

What "lord"? Yeah, I got the "hetero gene," too. But I don't go around insulting people who got the "other" genes. What's that about? "Hetero pride," my ass. I happen to be female and the only people I've ever been attracted to were male. I never had to "come out of the closet" and stop hiding the fact that I am heterosexual like the LGBTs had to do. If you had any "pride," it would be as a heterosexual WOMAN, who decides which man she will welcome in her bed and which she will not, and stop kowtowing to heterosexual men who want to program us to have sex on their command. Being a "proud" straight woman means that we make our own choices, Sometimes it's "yes;" and sometimes it's "no." If you're so proud, you would understand this fundamental concept. Stand up for heterosexual women for a change.

It's not our fault we're better than you. Nor to our credit. We're still sinners, we're just saved from our sins, that's all.

And I do stand up for heteros of all genders, which is why I'm better than you.

#ThinkForYourself.

#HeteroPride.

 

[airplanemechanic]

People choose to be fags.

The Lord does NOT create them as such.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Those who want both a mom and dad should most definitely get their wish since it is the child who is most impacted by the act of adoption. That right there is what not enough people ever think about. To me, what the child wants should be the top priority and if they don't care what kind of couple it is that they go home with, then okay, that is all on them.

Why would the Lord go and create something only to prohibit it later on?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Brilllliant! Lets say that there is a 2 year old special needs child in need of a home. The only people to come forward who are willing and able to take her is a Lesbian couple. The child does not even know what Lesbians are. How long do we wait for another couple to come along.? Or, do we wait until the child is old enough to make an informed decision? What age would that be. Logic and reason are not your strong points.

Logic and reason are obviously not your strong points either. With it being a special needs child, the child would not know a lot of things, which is why its so important that the child have at least one form of normalcy which all begins at home: a mom and a dad. Why shouldn't they have a normal set of parents when so much is already missing from their picture?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Thank you for admitting that you are so hateful and obtuse that you think that a child is better off remaining a ward of the state or in an orphanage than being adopted by a same sex couple.

May the God and Goddesses help you!!

If I were truly a hateful person, I would only cheer every time that a homosexual's dirt nap got started, but have I ever done such a thing? Never.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Your comments are truly disgusting and filthy. You're not so "holy," sweetie. You have nothing that would or could be described as "God."

Wow, what is so earth shattering about what I have said here? Would you rather me say instead that I throw a party every time that a homosexual or anyone bites the big one because if I were to say something like that, not only would that be worse compared to what I said here earlier, but it would also be a lie. I don't know about you, but I don't believe that death is something to party about no matter who it is that isn't here anymore.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[rightwinger]

Saying republicans hate Jews when its republicans who go out of their way to defend Israel and the liberal left goes out of its way to say Israel is evil....I'm not quite sure how THAT got on the republican "hate" list.

How many Jewish politicians are Republican

Can’t love them that much

 

[rightwinger]

People choose to be fags.

The Lord does NOT create them as such.

Sure does

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Why are conservatives always such assholes when it comes to homosexuals?

It's really the government they tend to hate. You, of course, love it since it keeps you in clothing.

My guess is that homosexuals would assimilate quite well if they were not so fucking militant about it.

But, nooooooooooo, they just have to have it their way and in the course of things screw up institutions that have been around longer than the gay rights movement.

Most gays I know think all this is bullshit and wish the headline grabbers would move out of the country.

An oppressed minority becomes militant out of necessity . They have that right and a obligation to them selves to fight back against discrimination and marginalization. Bitching about their militancy makes you sound exactly like the racial bigots who complain about uppity blacks who don't know their place.

LGBT people have come a long way but in some ways still have much to overcome. They are still subject to discrimination in housing, employment and, as we see here adoption. The fact is, that in progressive states like New Jersey where I am, they have assimilated quite well. It is not an issue and no one notices or cares that they live among us as productive and responsible citizens and family people . There is no militancy here because there is no need for it, unlike in Kansas and other places. . Ask your self how passive you would be if you were denied the right of full participation in society, and equal protection under the law based on some arbitrary characteristic or membership in a certain group.

Out of necessity ?

What necessity ?

Many groups have assimilated with no militancy.

Now, thanks for the lecture.

Only I lived in California for six years...where things are so progressive. And cities like Concord and Walnut Creek were forced to allow Gay Pride parandes where gay men would wear leather outfits that were simply gross. And women would wear outfits that challenged people to tell them they were sick. So, they didn't assimilate naturally...but they pushed themselves on people in a way that nobody else has.

And somehow you think you can tell others that it's O.K. for them to be militant...but you (being the tolerant motherfucker that you are) can call others bigotted for being militant back.

Kiss my ass.

Geezzzzz dude. It sounds like you're another one here who needs some anger management help. Your the one going all militant now and I seriously doubt if you really have anything to gripe about.

You ask what the necessity for being militant is?? That alone tells me a lot about you. You think that gays folks should just shut up an be thankful for what they achieved, and shut up about the small stuff like employment discrimination, public accomodations and adoption, don't you?

Why don't you settle down and explain what's really troubling you. I doubt that its just about parades. California has not always been so gay friendly. When were you there to witness these horrific spectacles? In any case, I doubt if that is what this is really all about. I stand by my assessment of your attitude. I want to silence gays for speaking out and demanding their rights, and when they do you bleat about militancy ..JUST LIKE others did - and still do , when complaining about "uppity Negroes "

Why don't you twist things a little harder and maybe they'll just snap.

Yes, I asked what the necessity of being militant was about. Why ? That question comes more from my gay friends than anything else. Know why ? For the most part they have not experienced what you call out. They live the complex lives they have dealing with difficult issues (especially the ones who were married before deciding they were gay) such as loving a woman who has been a great partner while being attracted to men. Oh....and let's not forget that same militancy in the gay community is what has some in the community openly critisizing and condemning gays who WON'tT leave their wives or families to be "really gay". Or freezing out those who don't agree with them in their approach to being confrontational. And we are not talking gays in the closet. These are people who are openly gay and who do their best to simply be part of what's around them without making a big deal about it. Who are openly accepted and contribute as if they were not any different (because they really are not any different).

Actually, it is what it is all about. I could care less about gay marriage (my thinking is that if heteros wouldn't get divorced at 50%, gay marriage really would not be an issue).

California is not gay friendly...so you take to the streets in a parade in a city that does not want you there to start and you rub it in people's faces by wearking things like black leather chaps with no underwear or nun's outfits spattered in red paint.....or...as one guy did....putting a 4 ft paper miche dick in a wheelbarrow and parading down mainstreet.

But you don't see the disconnect.

I could really give a flying fuck about "your assessment". You won't (because you can't) answer why it's so great for gays to shove the worst of their culture on everyone, but it is bigoted to push back. That makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

The upitty comment is just making shit up. Fuck you.

And I'll go the same with those assholes who are so openly hostile towards gun owners. You wanna push...fine. But shut the fuck up whem people push back.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The Lord created gays

You don't even believe in the Lord, so STFU.

And he didn't "create" gays. Just like he didn't create sinners. People choose to sin, people choose to be gay. The Lord creates life, what that life does is up to them.

But homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord. However, it's not my place to judge. That's up to God himself.

Dumbshit comment. People are created as created. You sound like you are parroting some ignorant southern baptist boob or some other pathetic fundie.

I thank the Lord that I was created with the hetero gene.

#HeteroPride.

What "lord"? Yeah, I got the "hetero gene," too. But I don't go around insulting people who got the "other" genes. What's that about? "Hetero pride," my ass. I happen to be female and the only people I've ever been attracted to were male. I never had to "come out of the closet" and stop hiding the fact that I am heterosexual like the LGBTs had to do. If you had any "pride," it would be as a heterosexual WOMAN, who decides which man she will welcome in her bed and which she will not, and stop kowtowing to heterosexual men who want to program us to have sex on their command. Being a "proud" straight woman means that we make our own choices, Sometimes it's "yes;" and sometimes it's "no." If you're so proud, you would understand this fundamental concept. Stand up for heterosexual women for a change.

It's not our fault we're better than you. Nor to our credit. We're still sinners, we're just saved from our sins, that's all.

And I do stand up for heteros of all genders, which is why I'm better than you.

#ThinkForYourself.

#HeteroPride.

You are serious ? Really ?