Kavanaugh Sobers Up

[Papageorgio]

why can't trump find one juror who can work both sides of the aisle?

I don't think Obama found a juror that worked both sides of the aisle, did he?

 

[miketx]

Does that stuff about the women even matter?

He has constantly lied about his work and that alone should disqualify him.

Five times Brett Kavanaugh appears to have lied to Congress while under oath

Brett Kavanaugh Also Lied About His Rulings on the Environment

You say he lied but your link says he "appears to have lied". You are the liar.

 

[edward37]

When will the next character assassin come out of hiding?

there are many choices trump could go to but none who promised to save his ass or vote against rvw..Kavanaugh stands alone with that

go ahead and cite the path to be taken to save trump and how 4 more justices will go along with it.

You think that republican part of the SC would cast a vote against him? Might have happened once with Scalia and once with Roberts

 

[Dschrute3]

He's gonna win, and the dumb 'Pussy Hatters' are gonna freak out. That's my prediction. Cue the loony Pussy Hatter mobs.

 

[edward37]

why can't trump find one juror who can work both sides of the aisle?

He doesn't have to. That's why. Win some seats and you'll get more of what you want the next time.

Got a good shot with the house but not so much senate and imo SC is untouchable for more years than I have

 

[Mindful]

WHEN’S IT GOING TO END?

The US Senate has narrowly advanced President Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to a final vote.

Friday’s vote – 51-49 in favour – was a test of support for the embattled nominee who has faced sexual assault allegations from several women.

All eyes are on several swing senators for Saturday’s final vote.

I’m losing the will to follow this now. I thought that the vote was going to be tonight and that would be that. If they don’t end this soon, George Soros’ pussy hat army will burn down the country.

Posted in ATW

 

[Mindful]

 

[BS Filter]

why can't trump find one juror who can work both sides of the aisle?

He doesn't have to. That's why. Win some seats and you'll get more of what you want the next time.

Got a good shot with the house but not so much senate and imo SC is untouchable for more years than I have

That's too bad. None of us get everything we want in life.

 

[xyz]

Yes, very American. Must be led by this guy.

 

[edward37]

why can't trump find one juror who can work both sides of the aisle?

He doesn't have to. That's why. Win some seats and you'll get more of what you want the next time.

Got a good shot with the house but not so much senate and imo SC is untouchable for more years than I have

That's too bad. None of us get everything we want in life.

I've gotten most I'm spoiled ,,,, I lived through both bushes and raygun guess I can make 2 more years

 

[OldLady]

His op ed insists he is fair minded and does not let politics interfere with his decisions. Do you feel that is possible now, after the treatment he and his family have received? Will that genuine emotion you all feel was so appropriate at his hearing disappear now? All that overwhelming frustration and that chagrin over the insults and threats to his wife and children? The embarrassment of his parents?
How does that evaporate?

You might not be able to fathom this but not everybody responds to ordeals by becoming so consumed by rancor that they are bent on revenge towards anything or anyone remotely connected to it. In other words, he could still do his job as an impartial judge.

You'll have to forgive me for questioning that, based on his very surprising reaction during his testimony. However, for everyone's sake, I hope you are right.

What reaction would he have had to display for you to consider that he isn't a monster?

I didn't say he was a monster. Ever. Anywhere.

OK. I'll rephrase. What reaction would he have had to make to allow you to believe that he wasn't responding incorrectly? In other words, what reaction would convince you that he could indeed be impartial?

Handsome is as handsome does, so if he rules impartially, he's good. I just don't know if that's a realistic expectation.

 

[OldLady]

I guess it's as close as we'll get to an "I'm sorry" for all the disrespectful, flippant responses to questions and angry shouting at last week's hearing. Just remember, he's really impartial.
LOL

• I Am an Independent, Impartial Judge

Yes, I was emotional last Thursday. I hope everyone can understand I was there as a son, husband and dad.
By
Brett M. Kavanaugh
Oct. 4, 2018 7:30 p.m. ET

I was deeply honored to stand at the White House July 9 with my wife, Ashley, and my daughters, Margaret and Liza, to accept President Trump’s nomination to succeed my former boss and mentor, Justice Anthony Kennedy, on the Supreme Court. My mom, Martha—one of the first women to serve as a Maryland prosecutor and trial judge, and my inspiration to become a lawyer—sat in the audience with my dad, Ed.

That night, I told the American people who I am and what I believe. I talked about my 28-year career as a lawyer, almost all of which has been in public service. I talked about my 12 years as a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, often called the second most important court in the country, and my five years of service in the White House for President George W. Bush. I talked about my long record of advancing and promoting women, including as a judge—a majority of my 48 law clerks have been women—and as a longtime coach of girls’ basketball teams.


As I explained that night, a good judge must be an umpire—a neutral and impartial arbiter who favors no political party, litigant or policy. As Justice Kennedy has stated, judges do not make decisions to reach a preferred result. Judges make decisions because the law and the Constitution compel the result. Over the past 12 years, I have ruled sometimes for the prosecution and sometimes for criminal defendants, sometimes for workers and sometimes for businesses, sometimes for environmentalists and sometimes for coal miners. In each case, I have followed the law. I do not decide cases based on personal or policy preferences. I am not a pro-plaintiff or pro-defendant judge. I am not a pro-prosecution or pro-defense judge. I am a pro-law judge.
As Justice Kennedy showed us, a judge must be independent, not swayed by public pressure. Our independent judiciary is the crown jewel of our constitutional republic. The Supreme Court is the last line of defense for the separation of powers, and for the rights and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution.

The Supreme Court must never be viewed as a partisan institution. The justices do not sit on opposite sides of an aisle. They do not caucus in separate rooms. As I have said repeatedly, if confirmed to the court, I would be part of a team of nine, committed to deciding cases according to the Constitution and laws of the United States. I would always strive to be a team player.

During the confirmation process, I met with 65 senators and explained my approach to the law. I participated in more than 30 hours of hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I submitted written answers to nearly 1,300 additional questions. I was grateful for the opportunity.

After all those meetings and after my initial hearing concluded, I was subjected to wrongful and sometimes vicious allegations. My time in high school and college, more than 30 years ago, has been ridiculously distorted. My wife and daughters have faced vile and violent threats.

Against that backdrop, I testified before the Judiciary Committee last Thursday to defend my family, my good name and my lifetime of public service. My hearing testimony was forceful and passionate. That is because I forcefully and passionately denied the allegation against me. At times, my testimony—both in my opening statement and in response to questions—reflected my overwhelming frustration at being wrongly accused, without corroboration, of horrible conduct completely contrary to my record and character. My statement and answers also reflected my deep distress at the unfairness of how this allegation has been handled.

I was very emotional last Thursday, more so than I have ever been. I might have been too emotional at times. I know that my tone was sharp, and I said a few things I should not have said. I hope everyone can understand that I was there as a son, husband and dad. I testified with five people foremost in my mind: my mom, my dad, my wife, and most of all my daughters.

Going forward, you can count on me to be the same kind of judge and person I have been for my entire 28-year legal career: hardworking, even-keeled, open-minded, independent and dedicated to the Constitution and the public good. As a judge, I have always treated colleagues and litigants with the utmost respect. I have been known for my courtesy on and off the bench. I have not changed. I will continue to be the same kind of judge I have been for the last 12 years. And I will continue to contribute to our country as a coach, volunteer, and teacher. Every day I will try to be the best husband, dad, and friend I can be. I will remain optimistic, on the sunrise side of the mountain. I will continue to see the day that is coming, not the day that is gone.

I revere the Constitution. I believe that an independent and impartial judiciary is essential to our constitutional republic. If confirmed by the Senate to serve on the Supreme Court, I will keep an open mind in every case and always strive to preserve the Constitution of the United States and the American rule of law.

Judge Kavanaugh has been nominated as an associate justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Appeared in the October 5, 2018, print edition.
Opinion | I Am an Independent, Impartial Judge

Let me get this straight. This man has been dragged through months of childish nonsense, culminating in weeks of being vilified in front of the whole world as a RAPIST based on nothing more than partisan bullshit, and you think you're entitled to an APOLOGY from him because you got YOUR wittle feewings hurt that he had the bad grace to get angry about it instead of thanking you for the opportunity to be targeted with a character assassination? Is that ACTUALLY what your self-absorbed, tone-deaf, snowflake ass just suggested?!

The only reason you got ANYTHING is because Kavanaugh is a far, FAR better human being than you ever dreamed of being on your best day, NOT because you deserve anything but a swift kick up the ass.

Oh shut up, bitch. I'm listening to a real lady explain patiently and in detail why she is voting yes for him.

 

[edward37]

You might not be able to fathom this but not everybody responds to ordeals by becoming so consumed by rancor that they are bent on revenge towards anything or anyone remotely connected to it. In other words, he could still do his job as an impartial judge.

You'll have to forgive me for questioning that, based on his very surprising reaction during his testimony. However, for everyone's sake, I hope you are right.

What reaction would he have had to display for you to consider that he isn't a monster?

I didn't say he was a monster. Ever. Anywhere.

OK. I'll rephrase. What reaction would he have had to make to allow you to believe that he wasn't responding incorrectly? In other words, what reaction would convince you that he could indeed be impartial?

Handsome is as handsome does, so if he rules impartially, he's good. I just don't know if that's a realistic expectation.

it isn't but we'd have a better chance with someone who doesn't wear their partisanship on their sleeve

 

[iceberg]

Does that stuff about the women even matter?

He has constantly lied about his work and that alone should disqualify him.

Five times Brett Kavanaugh appears to have lied to Congress while under oath

Brett Kavanaugh Also Lied About His Rulings on the Environment

"appears" - all you need, huh?

 

[iceberg]

Both Collins and Manchin are "YES" on Kavanaugh.

done.

 

[easyt65]

You guys have all been playing "lawyer" too long. I don't need fucking PROOF to comment on his behavior during the testimony.

Nope, snowflakes don't need EVIDENCE to declare someone to be GUILTY, and they don't need anything to JUDGE someone else.

You're no one to talk about judging someone, Easy. I have seen your daily threads on Obama and Clinton. So give it a rest.

I have posted the documented, recorded, reported FACTS about Hillary and Obama, not my 'feelings' about how they were 'too emotional' as you have done.

If showing emotion disqualifies people for govt positions, Hillary's violent outburst in which she screamed 'That Jew Bastard...' or laughing in front of Congress at our dead Ambassador's more than 50 requests for additional security which she denied before abandoning him to die should have proven her too unstable to even hold the position of local dog catcher....

 

[OldLady]

Did anyone watch Collins' speech? Can you understand why I love this woman? No, she didn't vote as I would have. But she is a very careful, reasoned Senator who actually looks into the issues in depth and she explains why she is making the decision she does. I respect that a lot.

 

[Compost]

You might not be able to fathom this but not everybody responds to ordeals by becoming so consumed by rancor that they are bent on revenge towards anything or anyone remotely connected to it. In other words, he could still do his job as an impartial judge.

You'll have to forgive me for questioning that, based on his very surprising reaction during his testimony. However, for everyone's sake, I hope you are right.

What reaction would he have had to display for you to consider that he isn't a monster?

I didn't say he was a monster. Ever. Anywhere.

OK. I'll rephrase. What reaction would he have had to make to allow you to believe that he wasn't responding incorrectly? In other words, what reaction would convince you that he could indeed be impartial?

Handsome is as handsome does, so if he rules impartially, he's good. I just don't know if that's a realistic expectation.

That is not an answer. You have made accusations about him based on how he reacted to this ordeal. When asked for specifics, you spew bromides. That's all you have, isn't it?

 

[Pogo]

Kavanaugh and his family are owed massive apologies for the scurrilous way they were treated.

It is about time that the Senate or the Judiciary Committee came up with a protocol for handling this type of issue. It came up with Clarence Thomas, they didn't know how to handle it and it became a blown-wide-open circus. Now it has happened again and thanks to social media and the current political climate, it was worse than a circus. As much as the American public likes to hear ALL the sordid details, I think until an investigation is FINISHED we don't need to know anything except that an investigation is taking place. Doubtful the media would agree to that, but I wish they would.

However, Dr. Ford sure deserves some apologies too, while we're at it. I do not believe she was a Democratic "plant" brought forward to kill his nomination, and I won't believe it until she openly confesses to it. She began talking about this in 2012, when Obama was just getting ready to start his second term, and it is documented in her therapy notes. She passed a polygraph. She is telling what she believes happened. The Dems may have snatched her story as a golden opportunity, but she is innocent of "lying." IMO.

i 100% agree - close this "loophole" and end the game. make a rule saying once we enter into elections during a sitting presidents final year they can no longer nominate a SCOTUS. otherwise the nomination needs to be voted on.

should we apologize to dr ford for their coercing their "witness" on what to say? should we apologize to her for mocking her fear of flying that she doesn't have? should we apologize to her for never going to the police and making this political instead?

maybe YOU should apologize to kavanaugh for your sobering up comments as being out of line. even you said that yesterday but today - not so much.

I'm not feeling the slightest bit apologetic toward Kavanaugh, because I strongly suspect he was under the influence of something during the hearing, based on his too frequent tears, his chugging all that water as if he had cotton mouth, and his general asshole demeanor in his responses. Let's hope that's not his normal behavior. But as I said, he seems to have sobered up. Good. Because it looks like he's about to get confirmed.

like i've always said - the left will go by their emotions, never the facts. you FEEL he was under the influence of something yet no one has said a thing about it HOWEVER YOU FEELZ IT so it must be true.

we KNOW they told the witness what to say as the witness said so. yet you don't care about that cause it counters your FEELZ. so you're ok with people being an asshole to him but he can't be one back.

you want to be treated civilly, try treating people that way first.

Here's a wag actually assigning personality traits to a part of the political spectrum.

This joint never fails to disappoint.

 

[Tilly]

Did anyone watch Collins' speech? Can you understand why I love this woman? No, she didn't vote as I would have. But she is a very careful, reasoned Senator who actually looks into the issues in depth and she explains why she is making the decision she does. I respect that a lot.

Yep. She has a lot of things you lack.
One of them is a functioning brain.
Another is integrity.