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No, the states do not.After being jailed and publicly ridiculed, Kentucky clerk Kim Davis finally got a law to protect her in the same-sex marriage license fight.
Republican Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin signed a bill Wednesday that brings “statutory finality” to the long battle over marriage licenses in the state, WLKY reports. Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused in 2015 to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples with her name on them, citing her religious belief in traditional marriage. She was sued and jailed for five days when a judge held her in contempt of court, but she was later released when other employees in the clerk’s office began issuing licenses.
The bill changes marriage licenses so they do not include the county clerk’s name and allow people to check whether they are a bride, groom or spouse.
Read more: Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Just Officially Won The Same-Sex Marriage License Battle
It's not over, clearly when this gets to the Supreme Court, it'll be turned over. Is anyone in doubt this will happen?
If the state tries to deny marriage to anyone of the same sex it will be struck down. The Supreme Court has spoken.
So if two women apply and they both put 'bride' on the form, if no objections are raised and they are married I think that might fly. They have to abide by the intent of the Supreme Court decision, otherwise the door is wide open for a lawsuit that the state will surely lose and cost millions.
SC decisions have been overturned. The states have the final say if they choose.
Again, the Constitution, its case law, the rule of law, and decisions of the Supreme Court are binding on the states, they may not ‘choose’ whether or not to obey decisions by the Supreme Court.
And the issue isn’t that Supreme Court decisions might be overturned, the issue is the bigotry and hate that manifest in anyone who would seek to see Obergefell and its supporting case law overturned at all.
Americans are first and foremost citizens of the United States, residents of their respective states subordinate to that, where the rights of Americans are not subject to ‘majority rule,’ and Americans do not ‘forfeit’ their protected liberties merely as a consequence of their state of residence.
Depends on what he means by 'the states'. If he's talking about an individual state, you're obviously right. If he's talking about the Several States at a threshold suffecient to change the constitution......then he's right.