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Kim Davis Officially Wins

After being jailed and publicly ridiculed, Kentucky clerk Kim Davis finally got a law to protect her in the same-sex marriage license fight.

Republican Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin signed a bill Wednesday that brings “statutory finality” to the long battle over marriage licenses in the state, WLKY reports. Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused in 2015 to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples with her name on them, citing her religious belief in traditional marriage. She was sued and jailed for five days when a judge held her in contempt of court, but she was later released when other employees in the clerk’s office began issuing licenses.

The bill changes marriage licenses so they do not include the county clerk’s name and allow people to check whether they are a bride, groom or spouse.



Read more: Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Just Officially Won The Same-Sex Marriage License Battle

It's not over, clearly when this gets to the Supreme Court, it'll be turned over. Is anyone in doubt this will happen?

If the state tries to deny marriage to anyone of the same sex it will be struck down. The Supreme Court has spoken.

So if two women apply and they both put 'bride' on the form, if no objections are raised and they are married I think that might fly. They have to abide by the intent of the Supreme Court decision, otherwise the door is wide open for a lawsuit that the state will surely lose and cost millions.


SC decisions have been overturned. The states have the final say if they choose.
No, the states do not.

Again, the Constitution, its case law, the rule of law, and decisions of the Supreme Court are binding on the states, they may not ‘choose’ whether or not to obey decisions by the Supreme Court.

And the issue isn’t that Supreme Court decisions might be overturned, the issue is the bigotry and hate that manifest in anyone who would seek to see Obergefell and its supporting case law overturned at all.

Americans are first and foremost citizens of the United States, residents of their respective states subordinate to that, where the rights of Americans are not subject to ‘majority rule,’ and Americans do not ‘forfeit’ their protected liberties merely as a consequence of their state of residence.

Depends on what he means by 'the states'. If he's talking about an individual state, you're obviously right. If he's talking about the Several States at a threshold suffecient to change the constitution......then he's right.
 
The form has changed. Kim Davis won. The issue is closed. You may not like the messenger but the message is the same.

What did she win?

Same sex couples can now marry in her county whereas before they couldn't

Kim Davis has just been made irrelevant in the process

That's what she won. Her name appears no where on the marriage license form eliminating the appearance of her approval.
 
The form has changed. Kim Davis won. The issue is closed. You may not like the messenger but the message is the same.

What did she win?

Same sex couples can now marry in her county whereas before they couldn't

Kim Davis has just been made irrelevant in the process

That's what she won. Her name appears no where on the marriage license form eliminating the appearance of her approval.

The job of approving marriages has been taken away from her...some victory
 
After being jailed and publicly ridiculed, Kentucky clerk Kim Davis finally got a law to protect her in the same-sex marriage license fight.

Republican Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin signed a bill Wednesday that brings “statutory finality” to the long battle over marriage licenses in the state, WLKY reports. Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused in 2015 to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples with her name on them, citing her religious belief in traditional marriage. She was sued and jailed for five days when a judge held her in contempt of court, but she was later released when other employees in the clerk’s office began issuing licenses.

The bill changes marriage licenses so they do not include the county clerk’s name and allow people to check whether they are a bride, groom or spouse.



Read more: Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Just Officially Won The Same-Sex Marriage License Battle

It's not over, clearly when this gets to the Supreme Court, it'll be turned over. Is anyone in doubt this will happen?

If the state tries to deny marriage to anyone of the same sex it will be struck down. The Supreme Court has spoken.

So if two women apply and they both put 'bride' on the form, if no objections are raised and they are married I think that might fly. They have to abide by the intent of the Supreme Court decision, otherwise the door is wide open for a lawsuit that the state will surely lose and cost millions.


SC decisions have been overturned. The states have the final say if they choose.
No, the states do not.

Again, the Constitution, its case law, the rule of law, and decisions of the Supreme Court are binding on the states, they may not ‘choose’ whether or not to obey decisions by the Supreme Court.

And the issue isn’t that Supreme Court decisions might be overturned, the issue is the bigotry and hate that manifest in anyone who would seek to see Obergefell and its supporting case law overturned at all.

Americans are first and foremost citizens of the United States, residents of their respective states subordinate to that, where the rights of Americans are not subject to ‘majority rule,’ and Americans do not ‘forfeit’ their protected liberties merely as a consequence of their state of residence.


Of course you're wrong but states have overturned supreme court decisions. We have rectified many wrongs and I expect we will eventually do the same with gay marriage one day.
 
After being jailed and publicly ridiculed, Kentucky clerk Kim Davis finally got a law to protect her in the same-sex marriage license fight.

Republican Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin signed a bill Wednesday that brings “statutory finality” to the long battle over marriage licenses in the state, WLKY reports. Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused in 2015 to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples with her name on them, citing her religious belief in traditional marriage. She was sued and jailed for five days when a judge held her in contempt of court, but she was later released when other employees in the clerk’s office began issuing licenses.

The bill changes marriage licenses so they do not include the county clerk’s name and allow people to check whether they are a bride, groom or spouse.



Read more: Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Just Officially Won The Same-Sex Marriage License Battle

It's not over, clearly when this gets to the Supreme Court, it'll be turned over. Is anyone in doubt this will happen?

If the state tries to deny marriage to anyone of the same sex it will be struck down. The Supreme Court has spoken.

So if two women apply and they both put 'bride' on the form, if no objections are raised and they are married I think that might fly. They have to abide by the intent of the Supreme Court decision, otherwise the door is wide open for a lawsuit that the state will surely lose and cost millions.


SC decisions have been overturned. The states have the final say if they choose.
No, the states do not.

Again, the Constitution, its case law, the rule of law, and decisions of the Supreme Court are binding on the states, they may not ‘choose’ whether or not to obey decisions by the Supreme Court.

And the issue isn’t that Supreme Court decisions might be overturned, the issue is the bigotry and hate that manifest in anyone who would seek to see Obergefell and its supporting case law overturned at all.

Americans are first and foremost citizens of the United States, residents of their respective states subordinate to that, where the rights of Americans are not subject to ‘majority rule,’ and Americans do not ‘forfeit’ their protected liberties merely as a consequence of their state of residence.


Of course you're wrong but states have overturned supreme court decisions. We have rectified many wrongs and I expect we will eventually do the same with gay marriage one day.

I doubt that. The young are far more pro-gay marriage than older people. Gay marriage would have eventually been legislated in anyway. The courts mandating it was still wrong though
 
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I went to jail, and I can no longer stop gay people from marrying.

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I win!
 
It's not over, clearly when this gets to the Supreme Court, it'll be turned over. Is anyone in doubt this will happen?

If the state tries to deny marriage to anyone of the same sex it will be struck down. The Supreme Court has spoken.

So if two women apply and they both put 'bride' on the form, if no objections are raised and they are married I think that might fly. They have to abide by the intent of the Supreme Court decision, otherwise the door is wide open for a lawsuit that the state will surely lose and cost millions.


SC decisions have been overturned. The states have the final say if they choose.
No, the states do not.

Again, the Constitution, its case law, the rule of law, and decisions of the Supreme Court are binding on the states, they may not ‘choose’ whether or not to obey decisions by the Supreme Court.

And the issue isn’t that Supreme Court decisions might be overturned, the issue is the bigotry and hate that manifest in anyone who would seek to see Obergefell and its supporting case law overturned at all.

Americans are first and foremost citizens of the United States, residents of their respective states subordinate to that, where the rights of Americans are not subject to ‘majority rule,’ and Americans do not ‘forfeit’ their protected liberties merely as a consequence of their state of residence.


Of course you're wrong but states have overturned supreme court decisions. We have rectified many wrongs and I expect we will eventually do the same with gay marriage one day.

I doubt that. The young are far more pro-gay marriage than older people. Gay marriage would have eventually been legislated in anyway. The courts mandating it was still wrong though

You're probably right. I dont have confidence that the current generation is capable of anything but leeching and desiring a corrupt govt to take care of them and give them free stuff. Its appalling and despicable.
 
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After being jailed and publicly ridiculed, Kentucky clerk Kim Davis finally got a law to protect her in the same-sex marriage license fight.

Republican Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin signed a bill Wednesday that brings “statutory finality” to the long battle over marriage licenses in the state, WLKY reports. Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused in 2015 to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples with her name on them, citing her religious belief in traditional marriage. She was sued and jailed for five days when a judge held her in contempt of court, but she was later released when other employees in the clerk’s office began issuing licenses.

The bill changes marriage licenses so they do not include the county clerk’s name and allow people to check whether they are a bride, groom or spouse.



Read more: Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Just Officially Won The Same-Sex Marriage License Battle

Good. See how easy that was?
 
people like Frigid Weirdo will not rest until Christians are forced to worship LGBT dogma. This law makes it so they don't have to. It's a legal shoehorn for later victories for Christians to come..
People like frigid weirdo end up either in prison, or a straitjacket, friendless, homeless, mindless.
 
If the marriage license is valid and the marriage recognized as legal why would anyone sue. It seems like everyone is getting what they want and no ones rights are being violated.
 
The form has changed. Kim Davis won. The issue is closed. You may not like the messenger but the message is the same.

What did she win?

Same sex couples can now marry in her county whereas before they couldn't

Kim Davis has just been made irrelevant in the process

That's what she won. Her name appears no where on the marriage license form eliminating the appearance of her approval.

The job of approving marriages has been taken away from her...some victory
Actually, managing to hold onto a steady job with benefits while refusing to carry out one of the major responsibilities of that job, IS a victory. For her, anyway.
 
If the marriage license is valid and the marriage recognized as legal why would anyone sue. It seems like everyone is getting what they want and no ones rights are being violated.

Not everybody. Kim Davis didn't get exactly what she wanted. She wanted her office to never ever ever marry any icky gay people ever. This wasn't a "win" for Davis it was a "save face" for Davis.
 
If the marriage license is valid and the marriage recognized as legal why would anyone sue. It seems like everyone is getting what they want and no ones rights are being violated.

Not everybody. Kim Davis didn't get exactly what she wanted. She wanted her office to never ever ever marry any icky gay people ever. This wasn't a "win" for Davis it was a "save face" for Davis.
Typical far left spin.
 
If the marriage license is valid and the marriage recognized as legal why would anyone sue. It seems like everyone is getting what they want and no ones rights are being violated.

Not everybody. Kim Davis didn't get exactly what she wanted. She wanted her office to never ever ever marry any icky gay people ever. This wasn't a "win" for Davis it was a "save face" for Davis.
Typical far left spin.

Ironic post is ironic. This thread is pure spin.

Davis lost. She didn't want her office to issue marriage licenses to gays. Gays are marrying with licenses issued from her office. They won.
 
After being jailed and publicly ridiculed, Kentucky clerk Kim Davis finally got a law to protect her in the same-sex marriage license fight.

Republican Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin signed a bill Wednesday that brings “statutory finality” to the long battle over marriage licenses in the state, WLKY reports. Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused in 2015 to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples with her name on them, citing her religious belief in traditional marriage. She was sued and jailed for five days when a judge held her in contempt of court, but she was later released when other employees in the clerk’s office began issuing licenses.

The bill changes marriage licenses so they do not include the county clerk’s name and allow people to check whether they are a bride, groom or spouse.



Read more: Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Just Officially Won The Same-Sex Marriage License Battle

Wow. You really had to twist your brain into a pretzel, eh?

Kim Davis went to jail and now county clerks can no longer obstruct gays from getting married.

And this is a win for Davis...how?

This is the original solution that Ms Davis suggested in the first place. But, political correctness mandated that she be crucified by liberals, so she went to jail for her beliefs ... besides, the lawsuit she files is going to make sure that food and services are not being provided to the needy, simply because the left picked the wrong issue to try to make a political point.

I'm sure the poor of Kentucky thank you.
 
If the marriage license is valid and the marriage recognized as legal why would anyone sue. It seems like everyone is getting what they want and no ones rights are being violated.

Not everybody. Kim Davis didn't get exactly what she wanted. She wanted her office to never ever ever marry any icky gay people ever. This wasn't a "win" for Davis it was a "save face" for Davis.

That's totally false ... why would you make up shit like that?
 
After being jailed and publicly ridiculed, Kentucky clerk Kim Davis finally got a law to protect her in the same-sex marriage license fight.

Republican Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin signed a bill Wednesday that brings “statutory finality” to the long battle over marriage licenses in the state, WLKY reports. Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused in 2015 to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples with her name on them, citing her religious belief in traditional marriage. She was sued and jailed for five days when a judge held her in contempt of court, but she was later released when other employees in the clerk’s office began issuing licenses.

The bill changes marriage licenses so they do not include the county clerk’s name and allow people to check whether they are a bride, groom or spouse.



Read more: Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Just Officially Won The Same-Sex Marriage License Battle

Kim Davis is going to Hell.
 
Not everybody. Kim Davis didn't get exactly what she wanted. She wanted her office to never ever ever marry any icky gay people ever. This wasn't a "win" for Davis it was a "save face" for Davis.
That's totally false ... why would you make up shit like that?

Because court documents contain a letter that Kim Davis wrote to state legislators before (January 2015) the Obergefel ruling (June 2015) requesting the Country Clerks with a moral objection to same sex civil marriage be allowed to be exempt from issuing any license.

NOT to have her name removed and not have to sign it (which she never did anyway) which was the later request once she found out that she wasn't going to get the exemption for denying any license.


https://www.liberty.edu/media/9980/...Party_Complaint_against_Gov_Beshear_FINAL.pdf

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It's not over, clearly when this gets to the Supreme Court, it'll be turned over. Is anyone in doubt this will happen?
Yeah I doubt it will happen since even the un-elected dictators on SCOTUS have better things to waste tax payer money on than to rule on whether it's unconstitutional for a marriage license NOT to have a county clerks name on it.

And if it becomes a problem the SCOTUS will just write law like they did the first time.
 

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