Kristen Powers: Why Can't Obama Tell Us The Truth About Benghazi

[Oldstyle]

So basically the ACA is a disaster but it isn't Obama's fault because he THOUGHT it would work? LOL

 

[theHawk]

Ok so you dont want to know anymore if it was planned or not?

Lied about what btw?

Of course it was planned. The US general and the Libyan govt have confirmed that it was planned.

They lied about it being in response to a video. they lied about providing requested security, they lied about giving a stand-down order. They lied about there not being military assets that could intervene

Oh god

Oh gawd, you can't refute any of those facts.

Poor liberal.

 

[Redfish]

Why? Because your insurance company told you? Or are you just making a false assumption.

Why do you think insurers are so on board with the ACA? If it was going to make their costs go up, wouldn't they have fought it?

Use your head.

Why should they care? They knew they would simply pass that cost along to the consumer. They would have fought it tooth and nail if they'd been prevented from doing so but they were not. My cost went up because their cost went up. Why is this such a hard concept for liberals to grasp? Costs ALWAYS get passed along.

You keep assuming facts that are not in evidence.

The ACA covers regular visits, which have been proven to lower health care costs, since diseases are caught early instead of lingering until they have become terminal, or at least very expensive to treat.

That lowers overall insurance costs for everyone.

See how that works? Why can't conservatives understand markets?

do doctors get paid when someone has a "regular visit" ? preventive medicine is a good idea, but its not free.

the problem is that obamacare requires people to buy policies that have things that they don't want or need. Why does a single male need maternity benefits?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And for everyone - we can see who the low information folks are.
Line them up. All of the sheep in this thread that either accuses Kirsten of being a conservative or just a "shell" liberal maneuvered by Fox has clearly-clearly-clearly never watched her.
She is far-far more left than Obama. She is REALLY left. But an honest left. Always has been.

 

[Redfish]

And for everyone - we can see who the low information folks are.
Line them up. All of the sheep in this thread that either accuses Kirsten of being a conservative or just a "shell" liberal maneuvered by Fox has clearly-clearly-clearly never watched her.
She is far-far more left than Obama. She is REALLY left. But an honest left. Always has been.

honest left? isn't that an oxymoron?

but seriously, thats what she is, sooooooooo she must be destroyed by other leftists for not parroting the party line and talking points.

leftists cannot deal with the truth, because their entire philosophy is a lie.

 

[Synthaholic]

Once again...the American people were promised by this President that if they liked their healthcare plan...they could keep their healthcare plan...PERIOD! The bullshit that was served up was THAT statement.

You keep coming back to this, like it proves your argument.

When President Obama (praise be unto Him!) made that statement, it was probably under the assumption that insurance companies weren't going to screw with people. If you want to call that naive, fine. But it's no more naive than claiming we would be greeted as liberators in Iraq, with flowers and candy.

So what you're now claiming is that President Obama didn't understand what the ACA would do to people's costs? That he was "naive" and it's the fault of the insurance companies?

So all of those speeches he gave to the American people about what the ACA was and what it would mean were given by someone who really didn't understand the issue? Is that what you REALLY want to claim?

So according to you...Barack Obama's "signature" piece of legislation is something that he didn't understand? Wow...now THAT is a revelation!!!

No. Go back and read my post again. Maybe a few times more. You'll get it.

 

[Synthaholic]

My existing policy already covered regular visits. Barry promised us that if the ACA was passed that the average premium cost for a middle class family would go down by $2500. That hasn't happened. The cost of premiums for middle class families not eligible for subsidies has increased substantially EXACTLY AS CRITICS OF OBAMACARE PREDICTED!

We're not talking about you. We're talking about the policies that were cancelled.

The policies that this President guaranteed Americans that they would be able to keep if they liked them...PERIOD!!! Are those the policies you're referring to?

And he didn't cancel them.

 

[Redfish]

You keep coming back to this, like it proves your argument.

When President Obama (praise be unto Him!) made that statement, it was probably under the assumption that insurance companies weren't going to screw with people. If you want to call that naive, fine. But it's no more naive than claiming we would be greeted as liberators in Iraq, with flowers and candy.

So what you're now claiming is that President Obama didn't understand what the ACA would do to people's costs? That he was "naive" and it's the fault of the insurance companies?

So all of those speeches he gave to the American people about what the ACA was and what it would mean were given by someone who really didn't understand the issue? Is that what you REALLY want to claim?

So according to you...Barack Obama's "signature" piece of legislation is something that he didn't understand? Wow...now THAT is a revelation!!!

No. Go back and read my post again. Maybe a few times more. You'll get it.

your post only displays your hopeless ignorance on the entire topic. The insurance companies had no choice but to cancel old policies (they are now illegal). they had no choice but to offer new ACA compliant policies which cost more.

Face it, obama lied.

 

[Redfish]

We're not talking about you. We're talking about the policies that were cancelled.

The policies that this President guaranteed Americans that they would be able to keep if they liked them...PERIOD!!! Are those the policies you're referring to?

And he didn't cancel them.

do you have anything but air between your ears? The old policies were made ILLEGAL by ACA, If the insurance companies did not cancel them they would be in violation of the law.

 

[Oldstyle]

You keep coming back to this, like it proves your argument.

When President Obama (praise be unto Him!) made that statement, it was probably under the assumption that insurance companies weren't going to screw with people. If you want to call that naive, fine. But it's no more naive than claiming we would be greeted as liberators in Iraq, with flowers and candy.

So what you're now claiming is that President Obama didn't understand what the ACA would do to people's costs? That he was "naive" and it's the fault of the insurance companies?

So all of those speeches he gave to the American people about what the ACA was and what it would mean were given by someone who really didn't understand the issue? Is that what you REALLY want to claim?

So according to you...Barack Obama's "signature" piece of legislation is something that he didn't understand? Wow...now THAT is a revelation!!!

No. Go back and read my post again. Maybe a few times more. You'll get it.

Re-reading your post isn't going to make it any less embarrassing, Synth. You basically state that the reason the ACA is going to fail is because of evil insurance companies and that the problems with ObamaCare aren't the fault of Barack Obama because he was so naive about insurance and health care and didn't understand how the whole thing would work. All of which means 1/6th of our economy has been changed by people that didn't have a clue what they were doing!

 

[Listening]

You guys have wondered way off topic.

Please debate ObamafailureCare on another thread.

 

[Freewill]

You guys have wondered way off topic.

Please debate ObamafailureCare on another thread.

You are right, the left has won this debate through deflection.

 

[Listening]

You guys have wondered way off topic.

Please debate ObamafailureCare on another thread.

You are right, the left has won this debate through deflection.

The left can't win if they are the only ones in the fight.

 

[Freewill]

You guys have wondered way off topic.

Please debate ObamafailureCare on another thread.

You are right, the left has won this debate through deflection.

The left can't win if they are the only ones in the fight.

They drive everyone else out with their inane deflection. Got to admit it is effective.

 

[Listening]

Kirsten Powers: Why Can't The Obama Administration Tell The Truth About Benghazi? - Katie Pavlich

She's been pretty good about staying on target.

She's much better than Milquetoast Colmes.

BAIER: Kirsten, a lot of people push back and say to use a phrase, what difference does it make now? What about that thinking and the reporting on this?

KIRSTEN POWERS: Well, I think the reporting is important. And I don't understand why the administration can't just tell the truth about this, and that they keep saying things, as George just pointed out, we know aren't true. And we know aren't true from sort of unbiased sources. I mean the Senate intelligence report is not Fox News. He wants to blame Fox News for everything. It's not Fox News.

Let's bring the OP forward and try to get back on track.

 

[francoHFW]

Pubs and their insurance cronies have screwed up ACA as much as possible,formoney and power- instead of cooperating or helping- do you need that explained, or are you proud of costing the country money on a legally passed law....mindless obstruction.

 

[Listening]

Pubs and their insurance cronies have screwed up ACA as much as possible,formoney and power- instead of cooperating or helping- do you need that explained, or are you proud of costing the country money on a legally passed law....mindless obstruction.

You are off topic, moron.

 

[francoHFW]

OP- Here's a truth- The video was probably a factor, nobody knows FOR SURE THE ATTACKERS MOTIVES, AND NO ONE COVERED UP ANYTHING, HATER DUPES, AND IT'S TAKEN this long to get to a surety of that...

 

[American_Jihad]

OP- Here's a truth- The video was probably a factor, nobody knows FOR SURE THE ATTACKERS MOTIVES, AND NO ONE COVERED UP ANYTHING, HATER DUPES, AND IT'S TAKEN this long to get to a surety of that...

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[Listening]

OP- Here's a truth- The video was probably a factor, nobody knows FOR SURE THE ATTACKERS MOTIVES, AND NO ONE COVERED UP ANYTHING, HATER DUPES, AND IT'S TAKEN this long to get to a surety of that...

The fact that our affirmative action failure for a president rolled out big lies after it happened and stonewalled getting the truth out is only contributing to the fact that most of America now sees him as untrustworthy.

The only thing that is discouraging in all this is that it took America so long.

Regardless of the cause, the administration did not send help. And they won't own up to the fact that they got four people killed.