Largest iceberg on record breaks off and heads out into the ocean.

[skookerasbil]

Expect the climate clowns to be saying it will float down and snap off Cape Cod from Massacheusetts.

 

[OldLady]

Ice in an bowl displaces water so on the larger scale like this how does that work as it melts?

I just happen to have found out last night on PBS Newshour.
The ice cubes in a bowl do not raise the level of the water as they melt--the water displacement has already taken place. So this massive iceberg will not cause the ocean levels to rise as it breaks apart and melts.
What they WILL be watching is this:
The iceberg that just broke away is part of the Larson iceshelf. The shelf slows/prevents the glaciers flowing from inland to reach the ocean and calve off. The glacier scientist explained that since there will be nothing slowing the glacial ice from entering the ocean now, it will be adding more ice cubes to the bowl of water. And that WILL cause the ocean levels to rise. Of course, glaciers move very slowly and this is something that will certainly take place over many years. The people of NYC don't need to buy waders yet.
Like I said before, it's done. We can't undo it. But slowing the rate of global temperature rise would help slow this proces down. So let's do it!

 

[blastoff]

This means penguin immigrants to South America. I wonder how fast it will float. If the penguins go fishing, will they be able to find "home" when they return, or will it have floated away?
It WILL be interesting to know how long it takes to melt.

It IS disconcerting that enough ice melted that such a huge piece of it broke loose.

Relax. It's a message from God...to break out the ice picks and vodka!

 

[usmbguest5318]

Ice in an bowl displaces water so on the larger scale like this how does that work as it melts?

Wow! Did you truly not learn in elementary or middle school how ice in a body of water doesn't raise the water level? Seriously?

Ice already in the bowl does not rise the water level when it melts. Try it. Fill a glass with ice cubes, add water, mark where the water line is and wait for the ice to melt. The water line will be in the same place provided not enough of it has evaporated to lower the water line. (Of course, if you use a bowl and put it on the floor, it may happen that the "dog does indeed "eat" your homework." LOL)​

After all your years of drinking whatever you drink that has ice cubes in it, you never noticed that the melting ice doesn't cause the glass to overflow?

Ice shelves are in the water before they calve; they merely happen to be attached to ice that's on the land, thereby not making them be sea ice. The attachment is what makes them be "shelves" rather than land ice, glaciers (rivers of ice flowing over land), or sea ice. Larsen C, having calved off is now sea ice.

Now were it so that 1500 feet of the ice were above the waterline rather than already below it, yes, the calved iceberg would raise the sea level.

 

[usmbguest5318]

This means penguin immigrants to South America. I wonder how fast it will float. If the penguins go fishing, will they be able to find "home" when they return, or will it have floated away?
It WILL be interesting to know how long it takes to melt.

It IS disconcerting that enough ice melted that such a huge piece of it broke loose.

Can't put it back in the bottle now, though. The people with brains and a sense of responsibility are doing what they can to slow things down. The sea lanes opening in the Arctic are also interesting. They will be a bustling place in a few more decades. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to navigate from the Atlantic to the Pacific in North America? So many looked and tried so hard to do that. They just needed for the ice to melt.
I think--that's right, isn't it?

navigate from the Atlantic to the Pacific in North America

• This Is What the Ice-Free Northwest Passage Looks Like
• New shipping routes open
• Northwest Passage clear of ice again in 2016
  
  
  
  
  
  The Canadian Arctic on August 9, 2016, showing the Northwest Passage nearly free of ice. The "southern route" through the passage, travelled by Roald Amundsen in the early 1900s, is traced in yellow. The more commericaly important "northern route" goes straight through Parry Channel from Lancaster Sound to McClure Strait. NASA/NOAA image from Suomi/NPP satellite.
  

 

[dannyboys]

It won't float far. I see it as a win-win situation. For one thing, CowboyTed has just given data in another thread that suggests that ice melt is slowing down and possibly coming to an end. But let's say that it continues and all the sea ice melts! I estimate that the sea will rise by 230 feet. Lots of warning to indigenous people in places like Indonesia and the Philippians, etc., to GET OUT NOW. Who will remain? Where do all the wealthy socialites, rich elite liberals and Hollywood types all live? ALONG THE COAST. Seattle, Los Angeles, Miami, New York City. Remind me why this is a bad thing?

Let's see the LIB fuckers attempt to flee to the 'flyover' states and attempt to impose their LIB/Socialist/Communist bullshit on the American patriots living in those states. LOL!

 

[Nia88]

But climate change is a hoax.

 

[Weatherman2020]

This means penguin immigrants to South America. I wonder how fast it will float. If the penguins go fishing, will they be able to find "home" when they return, or will it have floated away?
It WILL be interesting to know how long it takes to melt.

It IS disconcerting that enough ice melted that such a huge piece of it broke loose.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

From which article did you find statements indicating the event is a "naturally occurring one that has been happening for 1000s of years?" Please copy and paste the statements you feel establish that fact.

The fact of the matter is that I did read the linked article from the OP. I also read the linked article entitled "Ice shelf to Antarctica iceberg." In that article I found the following:

• Larsen C is the third massive ice shelf that’s broken off from the Antarctic Peninsula during the past 22 years:
  
  
  
  
  
  This year, sea ice around Antarctica was at its lowest level since scientists started continuously measuring it in 1979.
  
  
  
  
  (Notice that sea ice is differently colored from ice shelf ice. Why? Because ice shelves, though they are floating, are attached to the land, whereas sea ice is not.)
  
  On Feb. 13, in the midst of summer, Antarctic sea ice covered a total of 6.26 million square miles. That’s 790,000 square miles less than the average from 1981 to 2010 or equivalent to a chunk of ice larger than Mexico.

Within that there is nothing providing a sound basis for one to infer that the calving of chucks of ice that in total exceed the size of Mexico has been going on for thousands of years.

In that same article is found the following graphic.

What is reasonable to infer from that graphic is that it took thousands of years for one-third of a mile tall/deep Delaware-sized areas of ice to form the former Larsen C ice shelf. A quick check of Antarctic average total precipitation reveals that it's about 6.5 inches. Using nothing but arithmetic, one finds that amounts to 3200+ years of precipitation, and that is clearly an underestimation of the actual years it takes because the precipitation that falls is snow and ice is compacted snow, which means it takes longer than 3200 yeas for 1760 feet of ice to result from thousands of years of 6.5 inches of freshly fallen fluffy snow.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

If that were so, perhaps your buddy, Weatherman, who also doesn't know what he's talking about, perhaps would not have written the following:

That didn't take long at all.

I wrote "perhaps" because irrational, delusional and generally ignorant folks are as likely to say "A" as they are "the opposite of A."​

More importantly, were that so, the source article might not report, "Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice connected to a landmass, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center." Clearly the are only as permanently attached as is the cold weather that inhibits ice melt.

Dufus thinks ice has been building up in the Antarctic for millions of years without pieces breaking off.

Hey Einstein, how many years has mankind been exploring Antarctica?

 

[usmbguest5318]

This means penguin immigrants to South America. I wonder how fast it will float. If the penguins go fishing, will they be able to find "home" when they return, or will it have floated away?
It WILL be interesting to know how long it takes to melt.

It IS disconcerting that enough ice melted that such a huge piece of it broke loose.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

From which article did you find statements indicating the event is a "naturally occurring one that has been happening for 1000s of years?" Please copy and paste the statements you feel establish that fact.

The fact of the matter is that I did read the linked article from the OP. I also read the linked article entitled "Ice shelf to Antarctica iceberg." In that article I found the following:

• Larsen C is the third massive ice shelf that’s broken off from the Antarctic Peninsula during the past 22 years:
  
  
  
  
  
  This year, sea ice around Antarctica was at its lowest level since scientists started continuously measuring it in 1979.
  
  
  
  
  (Notice that sea ice is differently colored from ice shelf ice. Why? Because ice shelves, though they are floating, are attached to the land, whereas sea ice is not.)
  
  On Feb. 13, in the midst of summer, Antarctic sea ice covered a total of 6.26 million square miles. That’s 790,000 square miles less than the average from 1981 to 2010 or equivalent to a chunk of ice larger than Mexico.

Within that there is nothing providing a sound basis for one to infer that the calving of chucks of ice that in total exceed the size of Mexico has been going on for thousands of years.

In that same article is found the following graphic.

What is reasonable to infer from that graphic is that it took thousands of years for one-third of a mile tall/deep Delaware-sized areas of ice to form the former Larsen C ice shelf. A quick check of Antarctic average total precipitation reveals that it's about 6.5 inches. Using nothing but arithmetic, one finds that amounts to 3200+ years of precipitation, and that is clearly an underestimation of the actual years it takes because the precipitation that falls is snow and ice is compacted snow, which means it takes longer than 3200 yeas for 1760 feet of ice to result from thousands of years of 6.5 inches of freshly fallen fluffy snow.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

If that were so, perhaps your buddy, Weatherman, who also doesn't know what he's talking about, perhaps would not have written the following:

That didn't take long at all.

I wrote "perhaps" because irrational, delusional and generally ignorant folks are as likely to say "A" as they are "the opposite of A."​

More importantly, were that so, the source article might not report, "Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice connected to a landmass, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center." Clearly the are only as permanently attached as is the cold weather that inhibits ice melt.

Dufus thinks ice has been building up in the Antarctic for millions of years without pieces breaking off.

Hey Einstein, how many years has mankind been exploring Antarctica?

Dufus is aware that pieces the size of city blocks, houses and skyscrapers break off and puts pieces the size of Delaware or larger -- three such pieces in the past 20-30 years -- in the same category and assigns to them and their breaking off the same relevance as that of the far smaller chunks that have indeed been breaking off and reforming for thousands, perhaps millions, of years.

 

[Weatherman2020]

This means penguin immigrants to South America. I wonder how fast it will float. If the penguins go fishing, will they be able to find "home" when they return, or will it have floated away?
It WILL be interesting to know how long it takes to melt.

It IS disconcerting that enough ice melted that such a huge piece of it broke loose.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

From which article did you find statements indicating the event is a "naturally occurring one that has been happening for 1000s of years?" Please copy and paste the statements you feel establish that fact.

The fact of the matter is that I did read the linked article from the OP. I also read the linked article entitled "Ice shelf to Antarctica iceberg." In that article I found the following:

• Larsen C is the third massive ice shelf that’s broken off from the Antarctic Peninsula during the past 22 years:
  
  
  
  
  
  This year, sea ice around Antarctica was at its lowest level since scientists started continuously measuring it in 1979.
  
  
  
  
  (Notice that sea ice is differently colored from ice shelf ice. Why? Because ice shelves, though they are floating, are attached to the land, whereas sea ice is not.)
  
  On Feb. 13, in the midst of summer, Antarctic sea ice covered a total of 6.26 million square miles. That’s 790,000 square miles less than the average from 1981 to 2010 or equivalent to a chunk of ice larger than Mexico.

Within that there is nothing providing a sound basis for one to infer that the calving of chucks of ice that in total exceed the size of Mexico has been going on for thousands of years.

In that same article is found the following graphic.

What is reasonable to infer from that graphic is that it took thousands of years for one-third of a mile tall/deep Delaware-sized areas of ice to form the former Larsen C ice shelf. A quick check of Antarctic average total precipitation reveals that it's about 6.5 inches. Using nothing but arithmetic, one finds that amounts to 3200+ years of precipitation, and that is clearly an underestimation of the actual years it takes because the precipitation that falls is snow and ice is compacted snow, which means it takes longer than 3200 yeas for 1760 feet of ice to result from thousands of years of 6.5 inches of freshly fallen fluffy snow.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

If that were so, perhaps your buddy, Weatherman, who also doesn't know what he's talking about, perhaps would not have written the following:

That didn't take long at all.

I wrote "perhaps" because irrational, delusional and generally ignorant folks are as likely to say "A" as they are "the opposite of A."​

More importantly, were that so, the source article might not report, "Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice connected to a landmass, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center." Clearly the are only as permanently attached as is the cold weather that inhibits ice melt.

Dufus thinks ice has been building up in the Antarctic for millions of years without pieces breaking off.

Hey Einstein, how many years has mankind been exploring Antarctica?

Dufus is aware that pieces the size of city blocks, houses and skyscrapers break off and puts pieces the size of Delaware in the same category and assigns to them the same relevance.

Answer the question, dufus. How long has mankind been monitoring Antarctica 7/24?

 

[usmbguest5318]

This means penguin immigrants to South America. I wonder how fast it will float. If the penguins go fishing, will they be able to find "home" when they return, or will it have floated away?
It WILL be interesting to know how long it takes to melt.

It IS disconcerting that enough ice melted that such a huge piece of it broke loose.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

From which article did you find statements indicating the event is a "naturally occurring one that has been happening for 1000s of years?" Please copy and paste the statements you feel establish that fact.

The fact of the matter is that I did read the linked article from the OP. I also read the linked article entitled "Ice shelf to Antarctica iceberg." In that article I found the following:

• Larsen C is the third massive ice shelf that’s broken off from the Antarctic Peninsula during the past 22 years:
  
  
  
  
  
  This year, sea ice around Antarctica was at its lowest level since scientists started continuously measuring it in 1979.
  
  
  
  
  (Notice that sea ice is differently colored from ice shelf ice. Why? Because ice shelves, though they are floating, are attached to the land, whereas sea ice is not.)
  
  On Feb. 13, in the midst of summer, Antarctic sea ice covered a total of 6.26 million square miles. That’s 790,000 square miles less than the average from 1981 to 2010 or equivalent to a chunk of ice larger than Mexico.

Within that there is nothing providing a sound basis for one to infer that the calving of chucks of ice that in total exceed the size of Mexico has been going on for thousands of years.

In that same article is found the following graphic.

What is reasonable to infer from that graphic is that it took thousands of years for one-third of a mile tall/deep Delaware-sized areas of ice to form the former Larsen C ice shelf. A quick check of Antarctic average total precipitation reveals that it's about 6.5 inches. Using nothing but arithmetic, one finds that amounts to 3200+ years of precipitation, and that is clearly an underestimation of the actual years it takes because the precipitation that falls is snow and ice is compacted snow, which means it takes longer than 3200 yeas for 1760 feet of ice to result from thousands of years of 6.5 inches of freshly fallen fluffy snow.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

If that were so, perhaps your buddy, Weatherman, who also doesn't know what he's talking about, perhaps would not have written the following:

That didn't take long at all.

I wrote "perhaps" because irrational, delusional and generally ignorant folks are as likely to say "A" as they are "the opposite of A."​

More importantly, were that so, the source article might not report, "Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice connected to a landmass, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center." Clearly the are only as permanently attached as is the cold weather that inhibits ice melt.

Dufus thinks ice has been building up in the Antarctic for millions of years without pieces breaking off.

Hey Einstein, how many years has mankind been exploring Antarctica?

Dufus is aware that pieces the size of city blocks, houses and skyscrapers break off and puts pieces the size of Delaware in the same category and assigns to them the same relevance.

Answer the question, dufus. How long has mankind been monitoring Antarctica 7/24?

I don't know.

Just remember that I provided a direct and unequivocal answer to your question.

 

[TNHarley]

But climate change is a hoax.

No one says climate change is a hoax.. LOL
It has been happening for billions of years.

 

[Weatherman2020]

It IS disconcerting that enough ice melted that such a huge piece of it broke loose.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

From which article did you find statements indicating the event is a "naturally occurring one that has been happening for 1000s of years?" Please copy and paste the statements you feel establish that fact.

The fact of the matter is that I did read the linked article from the OP. I also read the linked article entitled "Ice shelf to Antarctica iceberg." In that article I found the following:

• Larsen C is the third massive ice shelf that’s broken off from the Antarctic Peninsula during the past 22 years:
  
  
  
  
  
  This year, sea ice around Antarctica was at its lowest level since scientists started continuously measuring it in 1979.
  
  
  
  
  (Notice that sea ice is differently colored from ice shelf ice. Why? Because ice shelves, though they are floating, are attached to the land, whereas sea ice is not.)
  
  On Feb. 13, in the midst of summer, Antarctic sea ice covered a total of 6.26 million square miles. That’s 790,000 square miles less than the average from 1981 to 2010 or equivalent to a chunk of ice larger than Mexico.

Within that there is nothing providing a sound basis for one to infer that the calving of chucks of ice that in total exceed the size of Mexico has been going on for thousands of years.

In that same article is found the following graphic.

What is reasonable to infer from that graphic is that it took thousands of years for one-third of a mile tall/deep Delaware-sized areas of ice to form the former Larsen C ice shelf. A quick check of Antarctic average total precipitation reveals that it's about 6.5 inches. Using nothing but arithmetic, one finds that amounts to 3200+ years of precipitation, and that is clearly an underestimation of the actual years it takes because the precipitation that falls is snow and ice is compacted snow, which means it takes longer than 3200 yeas for 1760 feet of ice to result from thousands of years of 6.5 inches of freshly fallen fluffy snow.

Read the article and the other links. You'll calm down when you discover this is a naturally occurring event that has been happening for 1000's of years. Feel better?

If that were so, perhaps your buddy, Weatherman, who also doesn't know what he's talking about, perhaps would not have written the following:

That didn't take long at all.

I wrote "perhaps" because irrational, delusional and generally ignorant folks are as likely to say "A" as they are "the opposite of A."​

More importantly, were that so, the source article might not report, "Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice connected to a landmass, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center." Clearly the are only as permanently attached as is the cold weather that inhibits ice melt.

Dufus thinks ice has been building up in the Antarctic for millions of years without pieces breaking off.

Hey Einstein, how many years has mankind been exploring Antarctica?

Dufus is aware that pieces the size of city blocks, houses and skyscrapers break off and puts pieces the size of Delaware in the same category and assigns to them the same relevance.

Answer the question, dufus. How long has mankind been monitoring Antarctica 7/24?

I don't know.

Just remember that I provided a direct and unequivocal answer to your question.

Oh, you don't know. Yet you make wild claims that this is unprecedented.

Hint: I was in high school before mankind ever started monitoring the Antarctic full time.

 

[Nia88]

But climate change is a hoax.

No one says climate change is a hoax.. LOL
It has been happening for billions of years.

A certain cheeto living in the Whitehouse said global warming was a hoax created by the Chinese.

 

[TNHarley]

But climate change is a hoax.

No one says climate change is a hoax.. LOL
It has been happening for billions of years.

A certain cheeto living in the Whitehouse said global warming was a hoax created by the Chinese.

Global warming isnt climate change.
Climate change is scientific fact that has been around since the dawn of earths time. Global warming is a theory backed by assumptions and models. Not fact.

 

[Nia88]

But climate change is a hoax.

No one says climate change is a hoax.. LOL
It has been happening for billions of years.

A certain cheeto living in the Whitehouse said global warming was a hoax created by the Chinese.

Global warming isnt climate change.
Climate change is scientific fact that has been around since the dawn of earths time. Global warming is a theory backed by assumptions and models. Not fact.

So human beings haven't had any effect on climate change?

 

[Weatherman2020]

But climate change is a hoax.

No one says climate change is a hoax.. LOL
It has been happening for billions of years.

A certain cheeto living in the Whitehouse said global warming was a hoax created by the Chinese.

Global warming isnt climate change.
Climate change is scientific fact that has been around since the dawn of earths time. Global warming is a theory backed by assumptions and models. Not fact.

So human beings haven't had any effect on climate change?

This guy built the weather controlling machine.

 

[TNHarley]

But climate change is a hoax.

No one says climate change is a hoax.. LOL
It has been happening for billions of years.

A certain cheeto living in the Whitehouse said global warming was a hoax created by the Chinese.

Global warming isnt climate change.
Climate change is scientific fact that has been around since the dawn of earths time. Global warming is a theory backed by assumptions and models. Not fact.

So human beings haven't had any effect on climate change?

Maybe.
By how much? Depends on which scientist you ask.

 

[usmbguest5318]

From which article did you find statements indicating the event is a "naturally occurring one that has been happening for 1000s of years?" Please copy and paste the statements you feel establish that fact.

The fact of the matter is that I did read the linked article from the OP. I also read the linked article entitled "Ice shelf to Antarctica iceberg." In that article I found the following:

• Larsen C is the third massive ice shelf that’s broken off from the Antarctic Peninsula during the past 22 years:
  
  
  
  
  
  This year, sea ice around Antarctica was at its lowest level since scientists started continuously measuring it in 1979.
  
  
  
  
  (Notice that sea ice is differently colored from ice shelf ice. Why? Because ice shelves, though they are floating, are attached to the land, whereas sea ice is not.)
  
  On Feb. 13, in the midst of summer, Antarctic sea ice covered a total of 6.26 million square miles. That’s 790,000 square miles less than the average from 1981 to 2010 or equivalent to a chunk of ice larger than Mexico.

Within that there is nothing providing a sound basis for one to infer that the calving of chucks of ice that in total exceed the size of Mexico has been going on for thousands of years.

In that same article is found the following graphic.

What is reasonable to infer from that graphic is that it took thousands of years for one-third of a mile tall/deep Delaware-sized areas of ice to form the former Larsen C ice shelf. A quick check of Antarctic average total precipitation reveals that it's about 6.5 inches. Using nothing but arithmetic, one finds that amounts to 3200+ years of precipitation, and that is clearly an underestimation of the actual years it takes because the precipitation that falls is snow and ice is compacted snow, which means it takes longer than 3200 yeas for 1760 feet of ice to result from thousands of years of 6.5 inches of freshly fallen fluffy snow.

If that were so, perhaps your buddy, Weatherman, who also doesn't know what he's talking about, perhaps would not have written the following:

I wrote "perhaps" because irrational, delusional and generally ignorant folks are as likely to say "A" as they are "the opposite of A."​

More importantly, were that so, the source article might not report, "Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice connected to a landmass, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center." Clearly the are only as permanently attached as is the cold weather that inhibits ice melt.

Dufus thinks ice has been building up in the Antarctic for millions of years without pieces breaking off.

Hey Einstein, how many years has mankind been exploring Antarctica?

Dufus is aware that pieces the size of city blocks, houses and skyscrapers break off and puts pieces the size of Delaware in the same category and assigns to them the same relevance.

Answer the question, dufus. How long has mankind been monitoring Antarctica 7/24?

I don't know.

Just remember that I provided a direct and unequivocal answer to your question.

Oh, you don't know. Yet you make wild claims that this is unprecedented.

Hint: I was in high school before mankind ever started monitoring the Antarctic full time.

If you carefully read what I wrote, you'll find I made no "wild" claims.

 

[usmbguest5318]

I was in high school before mankind ever started monitoring the Antarctic full time.

Apparently that was also before the discovery that melting ice suspended in water doesn't increase the water level. Did you personally know Methuselah?