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They did - at least $30,000 in rifles, just in the hotel room.We still don't know the motive and they did discover a arsenal of weapon .
This supports the idea he had access to, and could have easily obtained, better weapons, but chose to use AR15s.
Hotels do not routinely question the contents of their guest's luggage.I still want to know how he brought all of the rifles into the hotel with no one noticing. Yes he probably made numerous trips with large duffel bags but still that is a lot of rifles and rounds.They did - at least $30,000 in rifles, just in the hotel room.We still don't know the motive and they did discover a arsenal of weapon .
This supports the idea he had access to, and could have easily obtained, better weapons, but chose to use AR15s.
Do you even know what the fuck you are talking about? More powerful weapons? What the fuck does that even mean. a .223/5.56 is not a powerful weapon, It’s a cartridge... 22 caliber.So? How does that negate the points at hand?Because he committed the biggest mass shooting with the multiple weapons that he had.Why do you disagree that he could have -easily- killed and wounded more people had he chosen a different weapon?
Why do you disagree that the fact he chose a less effective weapon means he limited the number casualties he could create?
You really haven't made a point other than to say there are more powerful weapons. So?
Nothing high powered about it, in fact it’s modestly “”powered”...
Quit listening to the Clinton news network and quit watching movies made by child molesting Hollywood types.
I'm not the one who brought up 'more powerful weapons'. I'm saying the AR was used in the most deadly mass shooting in this country's history as well as many if not most of the runner ups. It's something I don't believe you're compensating for in your argument.
Do you even know what the fuck you are talking about? More powerful weapons? What the fuck does that even mean. a .223/5.56 is not a powerful weapon, It’s a cartridge... 22 caliber.So? How does that negate the points at hand?Because he committed the biggest mass shooting with the multiple weapons that he had.
You really haven't made a point other than to say there are more powerful weapons. So?
Nothing high powered about it, in fact it’s modestly “”powered”...
Quit listening to the Clinton news network and quit watching movies made by child molesting Hollywood types.
I'm not the one who brought up 'more powerful weapons'. I'm saying the AR was used in the most deadly mass shooting in this country's history as well as many if not most of the runner ups. It's something I don't believe you're compensating for in your argument.
STFU you gun-banning faggot. Evil men are going to do bad things.
If anything, gun regulations should be lessened in America.
We can't be cranking out quasi-state-babies though.
A lot of questions are unanswered about that shooting, people seeing shots coming from different angles n whatnot.
Very strange things. Also, many Filipinos are Muslims.
Here's my conspiracy theory: 2-3 perpetrators had him tied up in a corner while they did the shooting, then shot him and cut him loose and bailed.
Do you even know what the fuck you are talking about? More powerful weapons? What the fuck does that even mean. a .223/5.56 is not a powerful weapon, It’s a cartridge... 22 caliber.So? How does that negate the points at hand?
You really haven't made a point other than to say there are more powerful weapons. So?
Nothing high powered about it, in fact it’s modestly “”powered”...
Quit listening to the Clinton news network and quit watching movies made by child molesting Hollywood types.
I'm not the one who brought up 'more powerful weapons'. I'm saying the AR was used in the most deadly mass shooting in this country's history as well as many if not most of the runner ups. It's something I don't believe you're compensating for in your argument.
STFU you gun-banning faggot. Evil men are going to do bad things.
^Wingnut closet mating call. I'm not advocating for banning guns, I'm saying the argument presented in the OP is stupid.
If anything, gun regulations should be lessened in America.
We can't be cranking out quasi-state-babies though.
A lot of questions are unanswered about that shooting, people seeing shots coming from different angles n whatnot.
Very strange things. Also, many Filipinos are Muslims.
Here's my conspiracy theory: 2-3 perpetrators had him tied up in a corner while they did the shooting, then shot him and cut him loose and bailed.
There isn't even a whiff of evidence that more than one person is responsible. Jesus, the conspiracies, at what point will you ever say to yourself "How come this stuff never turns out to be true?". Eh, maybe it's the mind controlling fluoride in the water.
Do you even know what the fuck you are talking about? More powerful weapons? What the fuck does that even mean. a .223/5.56 is not a powerful weapon, It’s a cartridge... 22 caliber.You really haven't made a point other than to say there are more powerful weapons. So?
Nothing high powered about it, in fact it’s modestly “”powered”...
Quit listening to the Clinton news network and quit watching movies made by child molesting Hollywood types.
I'm not the one who brought up 'more powerful weapons'. I'm saying the AR was used in the most deadly mass shooting in this country's history as well as many if not most of the runner ups. It's something I don't believe you're compensating for in your argument.
STFU you gun-banning faggot. Evil men are going to do bad things.
^Wingnut closet mating call. I'm not advocating for banning guns, I'm saying the argument presented in the OP is stupid.
If anything, gun regulations should be lessened in America.
We can't be cranking out quasi-state-babies though.
A lot of questions are unanswered about that shooting, people seeing shots coming from different angles n whatnot.
Very strange things. Also, many Filipinos are Muslims.
Here's my conspiracy theory: 2-3 perpetrators had him tied up in a corner while they did the shooting, then shot him and cut him loose and bailed.
There isn't even a whiff of evidence that more than one person is responsible. Jesus, the conspiracies, at what point will you ever say to yourself "How come this stuff never turns out to be true?". Eh, maybe it's the mind controlling fluoride in the water.
Hella lotta shots fired for an out-of-shape 64 year old to be running back and forth between 2 windows and keeping up with.
One volley sounded like a full-auto AK, NOT an AR.
Do you even know what the fuck you are talking about? More powerful weapons? What the fuck does that even mean. a .223/5.56 is not a powerful weapon, It’s a cartridge... 22 caliber.
Nothing high powered about it, in fact it’s modestly “”powered”...
Quit listening to the Clinton news network and quit watching movies made by child molesting Hollywood types.
I'm not the one who brought up 'more powerful weapons'. I'm saying the AR was used in the most deadly mass shooting in this country's history as well as many if not most of the runner ups. It's something I don't believe you're compensating for in your argument.
STFU you gun-banning faggot. Evil men are going to do bad things.
^Wingnut closet mating call. I'm not advocating for banning guns, I'm saying the argument presented in the OP is stupid.
If anything, gun regulations should be lessened in America.
We can't be cranking out quasi-state-babies though.
A lot of questions are unanswered about that shooting, people seeing shots coming from different angles n whatnot.
Very strange things. Also, many Filipinos are Muslims.
Here's my conspiracy theory: 2-3 perpetrators had him tied up in a corner while they did the shooting, then shot him and cut him loose and bailed.
There isn't even a whiff of evidence that more than one person is responsible. Jesus, the conspiracies, at what point will you ever say to yourself "How come this stuff never turns out to be true?". Eh, maybe it's the mind controlling fluoride in the water.
Hella lotta shots fired for an out-of-shape 64 year old to be running back and forth between 2 windows and keeping up with.
One volley sounded like a full-auto AK, NOT an AR.
Because he had a bump stock and plenty of time, dipshit.
Yeah, built up for competition....He had off-the-rack commercial pieces of junk.An AR-15/M-16 is a weapon not suitable for ranges beyond about 150 yards...And the rate of fire necessary to produce that level of carnage would have jammed the receivers and melted the barrels.Wut?Horseshit.The LV shooter fired 1100 rounds, with 480 hits (58 Killed, 422 wounded) for a 43.6% hit rate,
This is impressively low, given the target and distance.
Indeed, the casualties caused by LV shooter were -limited- by the fact he used a number of AR15s with bump stocks - he could have easily killed and wounded significantly more people with a different choice of weapon.
Now, no one knows for sure why this guy did what he did, and what he did made no sense at all - but it is clear, he deliberately chose to buy and use AR15s in lieu of other more effective weapons - weapons he certainly knew about and had access to.
The question: Why?
We'll never know, of course.
But, given what could have happened, we should be thankful he chose his weapons poorly.
Those people weren't killed with .223 rounds and bump stocks...The range from shooter(s) to victims, along with the fact that the rates of fire necessary to produce such a death toll, rules out such a close-quarters weapon.
Nice try, FBI.
I hate it when people who should be smarter (M-14 shooter?) buy a fairy tale narrative like the one being peddled in this shooting.
I disagree with you Oddball, the AR platform is effective in its base form out to 460 meters. I have one rifle I built up for competition that is 1/4MOA accurate all the way out to 1000 meters with 80gr VLD projectiles.
Yeah, built up for competition....He had off-the-rack commercial pieces of junk.An AR-15/M-16 is a weapon not suitable for ranges beyond about 150 yards...And the rate of fire necessary to produce that level of carnage would have jammed the receivers and melted the barrels.Wut?Horseshit.The LV shooter fired 1100 rounds, with 480 hits (58 Killed, 422 wounded) for a 43.6% hit rate,
This is impressively low, given the target and distance.
Indeed, the casualties caused by LV shooter were -limited- by the fact he used a number of AR15s with bump stocks - he could have easily killed and wounded significantly more people with a different choice of weapon.
Now, no one knows for sure why this guy did what he did, and what he did made no sense at all - but it is clear, he deliberately chose to buy and use AR15s in lieu of other more effective weapons - weapons he certainly knew about and had access to.
The question: Why?
We'll never know, of course.
But, given what could have happened, we should be thankful he chose his weapons poorly.
Those people weren't killed with .223 rounds and bump stocks...The range from shooter(s) to victims, along with the fact that the rates of fire necessary to produce such a death toll, rules out such a close-quarters weapon.
Nice try, FBI.
I hate it when people who should be smarter (M-14 shooter?) buy a fairy tale narrative like the one being peddled in this shooting.
I disagree with you Oddball, the AR platform is effective in its base form out to 460 meters. I have one rifle I built up for competition that is 1/4MOA accurate all the way out to 1000 meters with 80gr VLD projectiles.
And I've heard numerous recordings of the shooting...Those were NOT .223/5.56 rounds.....The "official"story is pure fantasy.
--wow --great pointThe LV shooter fired 1100 rounds, with 480 hits (58 Killed, 422 wounded) for a 43.6% hit rate,
This is impressively low, given the target and distance.
Indeed, the casualties caused by LV shooter were -limited- by the fact he used a number of AR15s with bump stocks - he could have easily killed and wounded significantly more people with a different choice of weapon.
Now, no one knows for sure why this guy did what he did, and what he did made no sense at all - but it is clear, he deliberately chose to buy and use AR15s in lieu of other more effective weapons - weapons he certainly knew about and had access to.
The question: Why?
We'll never know, of course.
But, given what could have happened, we should be thankful he chose his weapons poorly.
I'm not the one who brought up 'more powerful weapons'. I'm saying the AR was used in the most deadly mass shooting in this country's history as well as many if not most of the runner ups. It's something I don't believe you're compensating for in your argument.
STFU you gun-banning faggot. Evil men are going to do bad things.
^Wingnut closet mating call. I'm not advocating for banning guns, I'm saying the argument presented in the OP is stupid.
If anything, gun regulations should be lessened in America.
We can't be cranking out quasi-state-babies though.
A lot of questions are unanswered about that shooting, people seeing shots coming from different angles n whatnot.
Very strange things. Also, many Filipinos are Muslims.
Here's my conspiracy theory: 2-3 perpetrators had him tied up in a corner while they did the shooting, then shot him and cut him loose and bailed.
There isn't even a whiff of evidence that more than one person is responsible. Jesus, the conspiracies, at what point will you ever say to yourself "How come this stuff never turns out to be true?". Eh, maybe it's the mind controlling fluoride in the water.
Hella lotta shots fired for an out-of-shape 64 year old to be running back and forth between 2 windows and keeping up with.
One volley sounded like a full-auto AK, NOT an AR.
Because he had a bump stock and plenty of time, dipshit.
And unrealistic energy for a 64 year old, amirite?
Not just bullets and casings, but this act was perpetrated in Las Vegas; the city that had cameras everywhere before cameras everywhere was a thing.....Yet nearly all the footage from key points in the whole affair are mysteriously missing.Yeah, built up for competition....He had off-the-rack commercial pieces of junk.An AR-15/M-16 is a weapon not suitable for ranges beyond about 150 yards...And the rate of fire necessary to produce that level of carnage would have jammed the receivers and melted the barrels.Wut?Horseshit.
Those people weren't killed with .223 rounds and bump stocks...The range from shooter(s) to victims, along with the fact that the rates of fire necessary to produce such a death toll, rules out such a close-quarters weapon.
Nice try, FBI.
I hate it when people who should be smarter (M-14 shooter?) buy a fairy tale narrative like the one being peddled in this shooting.
I disagree with you Oddball, the AR platform is effective in its base form out to 460 meters. I have one rifle I built up for competition that is 1/4MOA accurate all the way out to 1000 meters with 80gr VLD projectiles.
And I've heard numerous recordings of the shooting...Those were NOT .223/5.56 rounds.....The "official"story is pure fantasy.
The bullets and the casings would tell quite a bit. Nothing was ever released about that.
If 140 gr bullets were recovered, that wasn't an AR.
There's zero camera footage of anything.....I've seen one video of him hauling luggage, but none of it that looked like it contained the amount of weaponry that he allegedly had.STFU you gun-banning faggot. Evil men are going to do bad things.
^Wingnut closet mating call. I'm not advocating for banning guns, I'm saying the argument presented in the OP is stupid.
If anything, gun regulations should be lessened in America.
We can't be cranking out quasi-state-babies though.
A lot of questions are unanswered about that shooting, people seeing shots coming from different angles n whatnot.
Very strange things. Also, many Filipinos are Muslims.
Here's my conspiracy theory: 2-3 perpetrators had him tied up in a corner while they did the shooting, then shot him and cut him loose and bailed.
There isn't even a whiff of evidence that more than one person is responsible. Jesus, the conspiracies, at what point will you ever say to yourself "How come this stuff never turns out to be true?". Eh, maybe it's the mind controlling fluoride in the water.
Hella lotta shots fired for an out-of-shape 64 year old to be running back and forth between 2 windows and keeping up with.
One volley sounded like a full-auto AK, NOT an AR.
Because he had a bump stock and plenty of time, dipshit.
And unrealistic energy for a 64 year old, amirite?
Not really and there is no DNA or camera surveillance of anyone else. There is literally zero evidence of anyone else involved. There is video of trip after trip after trip of him hauling up something like 23 suite cases, because that's totally fucking normal.
and then what??!!!He could have used a tripod-mounted gun.He would have fired from two windows .... maybe considering his age 64, could the AR15s have been easier to use?They did - at least $30,000 in rifles, just in the hotel room.We still don't know the motive and they did discover a arsenal of weapon .
This supports the idea he had access to, and could have easily obtained, better weapons, but chose to use AR15s.
police shooting is WORSEHe killed 58 people and wounded 422, with the ensuing panic bringing the injury total to 851.Where is your source for the 422 wounded? I am betting MOST of those injured did NOT occur from bullets but injuries sustained in the panicked stampedeThe LV shooter fired 1100 rounds, with 480 hits (58 Killed, 422 wounded) for a 43.6% hit rate,
This is impressively low, given the target and distance.
Indeed, the casualties caused by LV shooter were -limited- by the fact he used a number of AR15s with bump stocks - he could have easily killed and wounded significantly more people with a different choice of weapon.
Now, no one knows for sure why this guy did what he did, and what he did made no sense at all - but it is clear, he deliberately chose to buy and use AR15s in lieu of other more effective weapons - weapons he certainly knew about and had access to.
The question: Why?
We'll never know, of course.
But, given what could have happened, we should be thankful he chose his weapons poorly.
2017 Las Vegas shooting - Wikipedia
And achieved a meager 43.6% hit rate, and 5.2% kill rate.It is not hard to shoot fish in a barrel, which is exactly what he was doing.
Yeah, built up for competition....He had off-the-rack commercial pieces of junk.An AR-15/M-16 is a weapon not suitable for ranges beyond about 150 yards...And the rate of fire necessary to produce that level of carnage would have jammed the receivers and melted the barrels.Wut?Horseshit.The LV shooter fired 1100 rounds, with 480 hits (58 Killed, 422 wounded) for a 43.6% hit rate,
This is impressively low, given the target and distance.
Indeed, the casualties caused by LV shooter were -limited- by the fact he used a number of AR15s with bump stocks - he could have easily killed and wounded significantly more people with a different choice of weapon.
Now, no one knows for sure why this guy did what he did, and what he did made no sense at all - but it is clear, he deliberately chose to buy and use AR15s in lieu of other more effective weapons - weapons he certainly knew about and had access to.
The question: Why?
We'll never know, of course.
But, given what could have happened, we should be thankful he chose his weapons poorly.
Those people weren't killed with .223 rounds and bump stocks...The range from shooter(s) to victims, along with the fact that the rates of fire necessary to produce such a death toll, rules out such a close-quarters weapon.
Nice try, FBI.
I hate it when people who should be smarter (M-14 shooter?) buy a fairy tale narrative like the one being peddled in this shooting.
I disagree with you Oddball, the AR platform is effective in its base form out to 460 meters. I have one rifle I built up for competition that is 1/4MOA accurate all the way out to 1000 meters with 80gr VLD projectiles.
And I've heard numerous recordings of the shooting...Those were NOT .223/5.56 rounds.....The "official"story is pure fantasy.
single fire is more accurate--but takes much more TIME
jesus f christ --NOsingle fire is more accurate--but takes much more TIME
Not much. Had he actually aimed he would have killed and wounded far more. The fact that he used the bump stock absolutely saved lives.
