Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[beagle9]

. But, but, but 58 died, and 500 wounded in 10 minutes at the hands of one shooter.

And it could have been so much worse. He had 50 pounds of explosives. Just imagine what he could have done with that had he wanted to actually kill lots of people instead of demonizing guns. The more I look at this nutjob the more I think his motive was to get more gun control laws.

"his" motive or someone's motive. That seems to be the perfect tragedy designed to get people to call for gun control. Too perfect,if you ask me.

Why were fire exits blocked?

. At least people including the NRA had enough sense to call for a review of what allowed the weapon to go auto instead of calling for a ban on the guns used. But the fears turned it quickly into a gun ban attempt.

You know damn well after the bump stocks, the prize is banning semi-autos.

Don't even try to deny it. Then all guns after that.

Yep, for the gun grabbers, its a marathon, not a sprint

Just like ACA is a dedicated ploy to bring single payer to America

The Dems think everyone is as stupid as they are

-Geaux

. Well, you know what comes next right ? The repubs couldn't even repeal the ACA after bloviating for 8 years about it. There is action on it now, and hopefully it will all work out.

 

[Marion Morrison]

And it could have been so much worse. He had 50 pounds of explosives. Just imagine what he could have done with that had he wanted to actually kill lots of people instead of demonizing guns. The more I look at this nutjob the more I think his motive was to get more gun control laws.

"his" motive or someone's motive. That seems to be the perfect tragedy designed to get people to call for gun control. Too perfect,if you ask me.

Why were fire exits blocked?

. At least people including the NRA had enough sense to call for a review of what allowed the weapon to go auto instead of calling for a ban on the guns used. But the fears turned it quickly into a gun ban attempt.

You know damn well after the bump stocks, the prize is banning semi-autos.

Don't even try to deny it. Then all guns after that.

Yep, for the gun grabbers, its a marathon, not a sprint

Just like ACA is a dedicated ploy to bring single payer to America

The Dems think everyone is as stupid as they are

-Geaux

. Well, you know what comes next right ? The repubs couldn't even repeal the ACA after bloviating for 8 years about it. There is action on it now, and hopefully it will all work out.

I hope so. Giving insurance companies a license to fleece America because they're giving kickbacks to politicians is not a good idea.

It should probably be illegal!

 

[beagle9]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

 

[2aguy]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

Again..have you seen the legislation on bump stocks they have put out? It bans semi about rifles.........this sis why you are losing the fight...you think by giving them an inch they won't take everything.....each thing they take just creates the next start point. They want magazines....but will let us keep 10 round magazines...until the next shooter uses 10 round magazines and then they will say that obviously....military pistols, you know, the ones that take magazines, have no place in civilian hands....we can simply use revolvers...until the next shooting with revolvers...and on and on....

 

[beagle9]

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

Again..have you seen the legislation on bump stocks they have put out? It bans semi about rifles.........this sis why you are losing the fight...you think by giving them an inch they won't take everything.....each thing they take just creates the next start point. They want magazines....but will let us keep 10 round magazines...until the next shooter uses 10 round magazines and then they will say that obviously....military pistols, you know, the ones that take magazines, have no place in civilian hands....we can simply use revolvers...until the next shooting with revolvers...and on and on....

. And your response as a citizenry is what ???? Think about it, chew on it, and then move to get your friends, family members and anyone else to support candidates you can trust, support, and count on. People laugh at the term "community organizer" when it came to Obama, and they discarded all the achievements that have been made over time for the blacks in the American society, but when threatened in their own back yards with every other thing that got attached to it all, then they are left standing there scratching their heads ???? Best start learning from the ones that have been laughed at is my opinion.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

Again..have you seen the legislation on bump stocks they have put out? It bans semi about rifles.........this sis why you are losing the fight...you think by giving them an inch they won't take everything.....each thing they take just creates the next start point. They want magazines....but will let us keep 10 round magazines...until the next shooter uses 10 round magazines and then they will say that obviously....military pistols, you know, the ones that take magazines, have no place in civilian hands....we can simply use revolvers...until the next shooting with revolvers...and on and on....

. And your response as a citizenry is what ???? Think about it, chew on it, and then move to get your friends, family members and anyone else to support candidates you can trust, support, and count on. People laugh at the term "community organizer" when it came to Obama, and they discarded all the achievements that have been made over time for the blacks in the American society, but when threatened in their own back yards with every other thing that got attached to it all, then they are left standing there scratching their heads ???? Best start learning from the ones that have been laughed at is my opinion.

My response would be to let people have whatever magazines they want.

In b4 you come back with "mass destruction".

 

[beagle9]

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

Again..have you seen the legislation on bump stocks they have put out? It bans semi about rifles.........this sis why you are losing the fight...you think by giving them an inch they won't take everything.....each thing they take just creates the next start point. They want magazines....but will let us keep 10 round magazines...until the next shooter uses 10 round magazines and then they will say that obviously....military pistols, you know, the ones that take magazines, have no place in civilian hands....we can simply use revolvers...until the next shooting with revolvers...and on and on....

. Who is responsible for the legislation ?? Got a link ? Sounds interesting that it goes as far as semi-automatics in which I am not for. I mean we have 12 gauge shotguns that are semi-automatic. Of course they only have 5 round capacity upon loading it or 6 if remove the plug. The slippery slope is a factor in it all, and that is because you have supported or ignored the wrong people gaining power over you in this country.

 

[beagle9]

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

Again..have you seen the legislation on bump stocks they have put out? It bans semi about rifles.........this sis why you are losing the fight...you think by giving them an inch they won't take everything.....each thing they take just creates the next start point. They want magazines....but will let us keep 10 round magazines...until the next shooter uses 10 round magazines and then they will say that obviously....military pistols, you know, the ones that take magazines, have no place in civilian hands....we can simply use revolvers...until the next shooting with revolvers...and on and on....

. And your response as a citizenry is what ???? Think about it, chew on it, and then move to get your friends, family members and anyone else to support candidates you can trust, support, and count on. People laugh at the term "community organizer" when it came to Obama, and they discarded all the achievements that have been made over time for the blacks in the American society, but when threatened in their own back yards with every other thing that got attached to it all, then they are left standing there scratching their heads ???? Best start learning from the ones that have been laughed at is my opinion.

My response would be to let people have whatever magazines they want.

In b4 you come back with "mass destruction".

. Place responsible in front of the word people please, and then tell me how to get there after all that has happened in the last 25 years now ?

 

[2aguy]

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

Again..have you seen the legislation on bump stocks they have put out? It bans semi about rifles.........this sis why you are losing the fight...you think by giving them an inch they won't take everything.....each thing they take just creates the next start point. They want magazines....but will let us keep 10 round magazines...until the next shooter uses 10 round magazines and then they will say that obviously....military pistols, you know, the ones that take magazines, have no place in civilian hands....we can simply use revolvers...until the next shooting with revolvers...and on and on....

. Who is responsible for the legislation ?? Got a link ? Sounds interesting that it goes as far as semi-automatics in which I am not for. I mean we have 12 gauge shotguns that are semi-automatic. Of course they only have 5 round capacity upon loading it or 6 if remove the plug. The slippery slope is a factor in it all, and that is because you have supported or ignored the wrong people gaining power over you in this country.

Here is just one look at the proposed legislation...created in the day after the shooting.....This sets up an anti gun judge to simply allow semi auto rifles to be banned...

Bipartisan Bump Stock Bill Would Actually Ban All Semi-Automatic Rifles

The legislation, which was drafted by Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican, never bans bump stocks by name. Instead, the proposal bans any person from possessing or making any part that could be used to increase the rate of fire in any semi-automatic rifle. The lead co-sponsor on the gun control bill is Rep. Seth Moulton, a Massachusetts Democrat and U.S. Marines veteran who completed four tours of duty in Iraq.


“It shall be unlawful for any person … to manufacture, possess, or transfer any part or combination of parts that is designed to increase the rate of fire of a semi-automatic rifle,” the bill states. At no point does the proposed legislation specify a base rate of fire against which any illegal increases would be judged, a potentially fatal flaw in the bill’s drafting.

As a result, the proposal arguably institutes a federal ban on any and all parts that would allow the gun to fire at all, since the mere ability to fire a semi-automatic weapon by definition increases its rate of fire from zero.

The design of semi-automatic weapons uses the recoil of the weapon generated by the gas explosion in the chamber when a round is fired to automatically chamber a new round, and prepare the weapon to be fired again.

Because of this, any parts used in that process would likely be subject to the federal ban proposed in the Curbelo/Moulton bill, since they serve to increase the rate of fire of a semi-automatic weapon.

Gas tubes, gas blocks, buffer springs, magazines, charging handles, ejectors and extractors, and even triggers themselves could potentially be banned under the bipartisan bump stock ban language proposed by Curbelo and Moulton.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Can we effectively battle the U.S. military and win ?? Germany fell with outside help, but your point is good.

You can keep it from even being attempted if you keep the population armed. The big problem comes when the extremists are trying to take control....they beat up and murder anyone who gets in their way....which is made easier when their opposition is unarmed and helpless......it is harder to silence the political opposition with goons when the can be shot by normal people.

. So how do we keep Mandalay from happening again ???

We can't.

No law will ever stop some asshole hell bent on murder.

Ban semiautomatic rifles and he'll wear a bomb vest, or use a truck or one of many other ways to cause mass casualties.

Stupid argument. Of course laws reduce the occurrence of the prohibited activity. You know you have gone down the rabbit hole, when you're making this idiotic argument.

The prohibited activity

You mean like the laws against murder?

FYI banning semiautomatic rifles won;t to shit to lower the murder rate

Correct, just like laws against murder. Yes, having murder laws decreases the occurrence of murder. Duh.

 

[beagle9]

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

Again..have you seen the legislation on bump stocks they have put out? It bans semi about rifles.........this sis why you are losing the fight...you think by giving them an inch they won't take everything.....each thing they take just creates the next start point. They want magazines....but will let us keep 10 round magazines...until the next shooter uses 10 round magazines and then they will say that obviously....military pistols, you know, the ones that take magazines, have no place in civilian hands....we can simply use revolvers...until the next shooting with revolvers...and on and on....

. Who is responsible for the legislation ?? Got a link ? Sounds interesting that it goes as far as semi-automatics in which I am not for. I mean we have 12 gauge shotguns that are semi-automatic. Of course they only have 5 round capacity upon loading it or 6 if remove the plug. The slippery slope is a factor in it all, and that is because you have supported or ignored the wrong people gaining power over you in this country.

Here is just one look at the proposed legislation...created in the day after the shooting.....This sets up an anti gun judge to simply allow semi auto rifles to be banned...

Bipartisan Bump Stock Bill Would Actually Ban All Semi-Automatic Rifles

The legislation, which was drafted by Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican, never bans bump stocks by name. Instead, the proposal bans any person from possessing or making any part that could be used to increase the rate of fire in any semi-automatic rifle. The lead co-sponsor on the gun control bill is Rep. Seth Moulton, a Massachusetts Democrat and U.S. Marines veteran who completed four tours of duty in Iraq.


“It shall be unlawful for any person … to manufacture, possess, or transfer any part or combination of parts that is designed to increase the rate of fire of a semi-automatic rifle,” the bill states. At no point does the proposed legislation specify a base rate of fire against which any illegal increases would be judged, a potentially fatal flaw in the bill’s drafting.

As a result, the proposal arguably institutes a federal ban on any and all parts that would allow the gun to fire at all, since the mere ability to fire a semi-automatic weapon by definition increases its rate of fire from zero.

The design of semi-automatic weapons uses the recoil of the weapon generated by the gas explosion in the chamber when a round is fired to automatically chamber a new round, and prepare the weapon to be fired again.

Because of this, any parts used in that process would likely be subject to the federal ban proposed in the Curbelo/Moulton bill, since they serve to increase the rate of fire of a semi-automatic weapon.

Gas tubes, gas blocks, buffer springs, magazines, charging handles, ejectors and extractors, and even triggers themselves could potentially be banned under the bipartisan bump stock ban language proposed by Curbelo and Moulton.

. Easy... Mount the resistance to the bill in it's current form, and force the drafties back to the table to refine it. The rate of fire is already established in the semi-automatic, so it doesn't start from zero as suggested, and it is grandfathered in, so the legislation only meant to not increase it's current rate of fire to that of the automatic correct ?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

. So how do we keep Mandalay from happening again ???

We can't.

No law will ever stop some asshole hell bent on murder.

Ban semiautomatic rifles and he'll wear a bomb vest, or use a truck or one of many other ways to cause mass casualties.

Stupid argument. Of course laws reduce the occurrence of the prohibited activity. You know you have gone down the rabbit hole, when you're making this idiotic argument.

The prohibited activity

You mean like the laws against murder?

FYI banning semiautomatic rifles won;t to shit to lower the murder rate

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

Dafuq?

Please explain how banning bumpsticks will keep mass murdering criminals from getting one or making one!

Because fewer people will get them. Period. He used bump stocks, because full auto weapons are harder to get....because of laws. Come on people, this isn't rocket surgery.

 

[beagle9]

We can't.

No law will ever stop some asshole hell bent on murder.

Ban semiautomatic rifles and he'll wear a bomb vest, or use a truck or one of many other ways to cause mass casualties.

Stupid argument. Of course laws reduce the occurrence of the prohibited activity. You know you have gone down the rabbit hole, when you're making this idiotic argument.

The prohibited activity

You mean like the laws against murder?

FYI banning semiautomatic rifles won;t to shit to lower the murder rate

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

Dafuq?

Please explain how banning bumpsticks will keep mass murdering criminals from getting one or making one!

Because fewer people will get them. Period. He used bump stocks, because full auto weapons are harder to get....because of laws. Come on people, this isn't rocket surgery.

. If he could have easily, and legally gotten his hands upon the Al Capone Tommy guns that had the round clip full of 45 Cal. Bullets, can you imagine the carnage that would have caused ? Him being rich really showed just how stupid he was, because I garantee you that his money could have purchased him far greater firepower than what he had, but thank goodness for his idiocy or lack of knowledge right ?

 

[beagle9]

Still need a motive badly.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Stupid argument. Of course laws reduce the occurrence of the prohibited activity. You know you have gone down the rabbit hole, when you're making this idiotic argument.

The prohibited activity

You mean like the laws against murder?

FYI banning semiautomatic rifles won;t to shit to lower the murder rate

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

Dafuq?

Please explain how banning bumpsticks will keep mass murdering criminals from getting one or making one!

Because fewer people will get them. Period. He used bump stocks, because full auto weapons are harder to get....because of laws. Come on people, this isn't rocket surgery.

. If he could have easily, and legally gotten his hands upon the Al Capone Tommy guns that had the round clip full of 45 Cal. Bullets, can you imagine the carnage that would have caused ?

Well, yeah. It's kind of hard to heave any honest discussion about this, when you can't even get these guys to admit simple facts. A rational adult would admit that there may be some benefit to banning bump stocks. A rational person arguing against their banning would have to then argue that the associated costs (in freedom, whatever) are too high to justify the benefits.

These fuys know this, and they know thats not an easy argument to make. So they retreat to these goofy positions of insisting water is not wet. So , insteadof arguing the real issue, we're arguing whether or not water is wet.

"Bump stocks save lives!"

^^ See? They take these untenable positions, and being too lazy or incapable to make good arguments, they are forced to say stupid shit. And we're forced to sift through it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The prohibited activity

You mean like the laws against murder?

FYI banning semiautomatic rifles won;t to shit to lower the murder rate

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

Dafuq?

Please explain how banning bumpsticks will keep mass murdering criminals from getting one or making one!

. It won't, but just like our vehicles are equipped with the capability to go 100 mph in a 35, but do we do it ?? Yes some do, but when caught there is a law to reference that says you will not drive your vehicle over 35 in a 35, and if you do here is the fine or punishment for it. Paddock went the equivalent of 100 in a 35 with his actions, and the question is did the bumpstock enable him to do that ?? Now we haven't banned cars from going 100 in a 35, and this by placing devices on them that removes that ability from the driver, but if someone were to do such a thing, and they were to kill up a bunch of people, would that be what the citizens would be calling for next ?? Probably so, and the tech industry is poised to give it to them. Look I don't want us to lose our freedoms no more than the rest of you, but if this nation doesn't get tough on the criminals, then we all end up suffering. The bumpstock was sought to be placed on the sacrifice table in order to preserve the semi-automatic rifle in the situation I figured, and I agree that we just need to get this nation working to preserve our freedoms again, but the only way to do it is to stop the bleeding.

Very poor analogy.

The law doesn't stop the guy from doing 100 in a 35. But when a guy does 100 in a 35 you don't say you want to make all cars incapable of doing 100 mph.

And you are fixated on the bump stock so much that you do not realize that banning them will not stop anyone from bump firing a semiautomatic rifle so then the next step will be to call for a ban of all semiautomatic rifles.

. Wait what (the law doesn't stop the guy from doing 100 in a 35) ??? Well if it got moved to banning semi-automatic rifles that would be unexceptable. Any mod that turns a weapon into an automatic weapon is unexceptable imho. It should fall under the automatic weapons ban that is in place now.

A bump stock does not turn a semiautomatic rifle into an automatic rifle If you know anything about rifles you would know that

 

[westwall]

You can keep it from even being attempted if you keep the population armed. The big problem comes when the extremists are trying to take control....they beat up and murder anyone who gets in their way....which is made easier when their opposition is unarmed and helpless......it is harder to silence the political opposition with goons when the can be shot by normal people.

. So how do we keep Mandalay from happening again ???

We can't.

No law will ever stop some asshole hell bent on murder.

Ban semiautomatic rifles and he'll wear a bomb vest, or use a truck or one of many other ways to cause mass casualties.

Stupid argument. Of course laws reduce the occurrence of the prohibited activity. You know you have gone down the rabbit hole, when you're making this idiotic argument.

The prohibited activity

You mean like the laws against murder?

FYI banning semiautomatic rifles won;t to shit to lower the murder rate

Correct, just like laws against murder. Yes, having murder laws decreases the occurrence of murder. Duh.

You keep saying that, yet provide no support for your claim. Why is that?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

Dafuq?

Please explain how banning bumpsticks will keep mass murdering criminals from getting one or making one!

. It won't, but just like our vehicles are equipped with the capability to go 100 mph in a 35, but do we do it ?? Yes some do, but when caught there is a law to reference that says you will not drive your vehicle over 35 in a 35, and if you do here is the fine or punishment for it. Paddock went the equivalent of 100 in a 35 with his actions, and the question is did the bumpstock enable him to do that ?? Now we haven't banned cars from going 100 in a 35, and this by placing devices on them that removes that ability from the driver, but if someone were to do such a thing, and they were to kill up a bunch of people, would that be what the citizens would be calling for next ?? Probably so, and the tech industry is poised to give it to them. Look I don't want us to lose our freedoms no more than the rest of you, but if this nation doesn't get tough on the criminals, then we all end up suffering. The bumpstock was sought to be placed on the sacrifice table in order to preserve the semi-automatic rifle in the situation I figured, and I agree that we just need to get this nation working to preserve our freedoms again, but the only way to do it is to stop the bleeding.

Very poor analogy.

The law doesn't stop the guy from doing 100 in a 35. But when a guy does 100 in a 35 you don't say you want to make all cars incapable of doing 100 mph.

And you are fixated on the bump stock so much that you do not realize that banning them will not stop anyone from bump firing a semiautomatic rifle so then the next step will be to call for a ban of all semiautomatic rifles.

. Wait what (the law doesn't stop the guy from doing 100 in a 35) ??? Well if it got moved to banning semi-automatic rifles that would be unexceptable. Any mod that turns a weapon into an automatic weapon is unexceptable imho. It should fall under the automatic weapons ban that is in place now.

A bump stock does not turn a semiautomatic rifle into an automatic rifle If you know anything about rifles you would know that

Right, they just make it imitate one. Glad we got that all cleared up.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Banning the bumpstock would give the poor souls at least a sporting chance against a sniper with a bumpstock that allowed him to lay down fire upon them at a rate that was unexceptable, and ended up killing them like shooting fish in a barrel. Just saying.

You can bump fire a semiautomatic without a bump stock but of course you didn't know that.

The only thing that needs to be banned is quick reloading magazines. Just limit the guns to 15 rounds and reloading one cartridge at a time. That would eliminate the ability of one person to fire thousands of rounds into crowds.

There's already a way around that.

This is why gun banners suck.......they know that every law they create there will be a work around...so like a snake strangling the mouse, the make each new law tighter and tighter until they finally get the power to just ban guns......

. If guns are banned, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Look what you've allowed in this country already ?? Good grief.. I agree that the Demon-crats are as a snake squeezing the life out of everything, but you can't even stop the serpents because your foxhole has been to comfortable for you, and this while your buddies were getting over run in the other foxholes.

What the fuck do you mean what I've allowed?

It is not my fault that some psycho shot up a concert.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Dafuq?

Please explain how banning bumpsticks will keep mass murdering criminals from getting one or making one!

. It won't, but just like our vehicles are equipped with the capability to go 100 mph in a 35, but do we do it ?? Yes some do, but when caught there is a law to reference that says you will not drive your vehicle over 35 in a 35, and if you do here is the fine or punishment for it. Paddock went the equivalent of 100 in a 35 with his actions, and the question is did the bumpstock enable him to do that ?? Now we haven't banned cars from going 100 in a 35, and this by placing devices on them that removes that ability from the driver, but if someone were to do such a thing, and they were to kill up a bunch of people, would that be what the citizens would be calling for next ?? Probably so, and the tech industry is poised to give it to them. Look I don't want us to lose our freedoms no more than the rest of you, but if this nation doesn't get tough on the criminals, then we all end up suffering. The bumpstock was sought to be placed on the sacrifice table in order to preserve the semi-automatic rifle in the situation I figured, and I agree that we just need to get this nation working to preserve our freedoms again, but the only way to do it is to stop the bleeding.

Very poor analogy.

The law doesn't stop the guy from doing 100 in a 35. But when a guy does 100 in a 35 you don't say you want to make all cars incapable of doing 100 mph.

And you are fixated on the bump stock so much that you do not realize that banning them will not stop anyone from bump firing a semiautomatic rifle so then the next step will be to call for a ban of all semiautomatic rifles.

. Wait what (the law doesn't stop the guy from doing 100 in a 35) ??? Well if it got moved to banning semi-automatic rifles that would be unexceptable. Any mod that turns a weapon into an automatic weapon is unexceptable imho. It should fall under the automatic weapons ban that is in place now.

A bump stock does not turn a semiautomatic rifle into an automatic rifle If you know anything about rifles you would know that

Right, they just make it imitate one. Glad we got that all cleared up.

No it doesn't even imitate one but to know that you would actually have to learn about rifles and firing mechanisms and we all know you won't do that because you'd rather listen to what other people tell you than find out for yourself