Last chance to fight the propaganda.

[Ray9]

More than any other election in recent history this election is a referendum on the American people. There are basically two kinds of citizens in the United States-those who recognize that the mass media, newspapers, network television and some talk radio, has been infected, hijacked and taken over by the political establishment and those who fail to comprehend it. In other words, a large swath of the American voting public is unable to discern the difference between objective news reporting and pure propaganda. For those who get their political opinions from Saturday Night Live there is little hope and these are the people who will robotically vote for Hillary Clinton.


The majority of those who oppose Donald trump are convinced by the establishment propaganda machine that Donald Trump is “mean” so on a tragically superficial level this all they need to know. The establishment will use everything it has to protect itself including slander, witch hunts and all sorts of slime-throwing to smear any threat to their ivory tower. When a movement comes along attacking the establishment it is presented to the fearful as a menace to their dependent security while they are led down the rabbit hole of uncertainty. So the perpetrators (establishment) use the intimidation of the unknown to scare the victims into continuing their dependence characterizing the opposition as a monster coming at them from under the bed.


The embedded political establishment in the United States is the greater threat. We are a nation of laws and laws must not only be followed they must be Seen” to be followed. This means that no one can be above or immune to the laws that govern us. The country witnessed this paradigm at work during the Watergate hearings that brought about the demise of the Nixon administration. Nixon was not as powerfully situated as Hillary Clinton and he certainly didn’t have the majority of the American press and mass media acting as journalistic “Brown shirts” to keep him from facing justice.


Clinton’s national security offenses eclipse Nixon’s crime by far. Because she destroyed evidence that she was ordered to turn over to the FBI we may never know the full extent of the damage she did to national security. But the damage she and her party have done to the credibility of the Internal Revenue Service, the Department of Justice and the FBI are more visible. These agencies are in place to protect us all. They are not personal tools for the establishment to keep itself in power. If an average citizen destroyed subpoenaed evidence ordered by the FBI that citizen would certainly be serving a long prison sentence. Clinton went to the extent of actually “bleaching” her computer records so they can never be recovered and all of her aids have taken the fifth. These are not the actions of innocent people.


Hillary Clinton is the very definition of corruption and she would have no chance if the Republican Party and its representatives were not equally corrupt which is why a populist had to commandeer it as the only way to stem the corruption. This election is not about women or Blacks or Hispanics; it’s about corruption and propagandized misinformation to hide the corruption and protect the establishment. Americans who support Trump do not support him because they like him or think he is a candidate for sainthood. They support him because he is a true outsider who will fight for the people not the government. His battle is uphill because the American press has become the modern equivalent of the House Un-American Activities Committee and is hard at work to defend the establishment it has embraced as true believers.


Trump can still win and we better hope he does because this is the last chance for the American voter to rescue its image as a deserving beneficiary of American democracy.

 

[guno]

More than any other election in recent history this election is a referendum on if this country will cling to thinking it is a white christian country run by white nationalist ,or going forward aas the demographics show

 

[Fenton Lum]

Jesus Fucking Christ. Once again, .... Bill Clinton deregulated the FCC. As a result, the american media machine now rests in the hands of 6 major multinational corporations, down from 50 some odd companies back in the 1980s. Roughly 90% of what americans see, hear and read is controlled by half a dozen corporations. Deregulation and the resultant concetration of wealth and corporate controlled media power is the issue, profit is the lone motive. Your entire political system is under corporate control, so yeah, people simply do not matter.

 

[pismoe]

More than any other election in recent history this election is a referendum on if this country will cling to thinking it is a white christian country run by white nationalist ,or going forward aas the demographics show

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yep , going forward into a third world hell hole just like the countries that the third world importeds come from Guno !!

 

[the_human_being]

More than any other election in recent history this election is a referendum on if this country will cling to thinking it is a white christian country run by white nationalist ,or going forward aas the demographics show

Actually voting for Hillary will be a giant leap forward toward rule by the Muslim Brotherhood and Socialism. The next step up from Socialism is Communism. Many members of the Democratic Party embrace the Muslim Brotherhood and the Communist Party.

 

[the_human_being]

It's sad the Liberals think they are champions of equality, liberty, and human rights. The fools will soon see their liberties, their rights, and their equality rapidly disappear under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism embracing Democratic leadership. Hillary said her supporters were stupid and easily manipulated. She was right.

 

[mamooth]

More than any other election in recent history this election is a referendum on the American people.

Yep.

There are the Trump fans, the easily-manipulated bedwetters who brag about how they've fallen hard for the propaganda of our crazy conservative right wing mainstream media.

And on the other side, there are intelligent and patriotic Americans.

The most hopeless cases, of course, are the ones who actually declare the national media is liberal. Their cult brainwashing is absolute, and it will not be possible to deprogram them. We can only wait for them to gradually die off. Which won't take long, as Trump voters tend to be old people, while rational voters tend to be young. Demographic trends are not friendly to the Trump-cult.

 

[Syriusly]

The majority of those who oppose Donald trump are convinced by the establishment propaganda machine .

The majority of those who support Donald Trump are convinced that there is a huge conspiracy but that Donald Trump somehow is not part of it- even though he is a billionaire who has played the system for years- you have been convinced by Trump's propaganda machine that he cares about you and America- despite absolutely any evidence that he does.

 

[Syriusly]

The very idea that the media is trying to manipulate anything- when Donald Trump has played the media like a fiddle.

No Presidential candidate has gotten more free press and free air time than Donald Trump. He has thrived on saying the outragious- and now complains when the media actually reports his own words.

I do not know how any rational person can look back at how Donald Trump went full Birther- embracing the Birther idiocy that President Obama was not born in the United States and promoting it for 5 years- and consider Trump to be a fine choice for President.

 

[emilynghiem]

More than any other election in recent history this election is a referendum on if this country will cling to thinking it is a white christian country run by white nationalist ,or going forward aas the demographics show

Dear guno
I hate to break the news to you, bud
but both Clintons are WHITE and have used WHITE politics to get where they are.

You can ask members of the Black community who still feel sold out to the same politics.
Divide and conquer.

Separate the higher class "house slaves' from the lower class "field slaves"
and keep them both competing for favor from the Masters,
and you keep them from uniting and reclaiming equal power to govern their own situations and resources!

Sorry guno but the same game
used to keep "field slaves" and "house slaves" trapped in slavery and dependence
HAS NOW BEEN EXPANDED
to divide the ENTIRE nation in hostile groups of
rich vs po or.

the party of the rich blaming the poor for social welfare
the party of the poor blaming the rich for corporate welfare

And neither party changing that.
Both parties electing people who just exploit that "fear of the other party/candidates"
for VOTES

then keep the system as is, and wonder why nothing changes.
Well, if you used that system to get elected, guess who you owe your office to?
The people who play that game.

Trump claims not to be part of that game,
and in his own ways, he is playing it differently.
By cutting down Cruz he played the same political games of "divide and conquer"
instead of "unite and include"

The difference when Clinton and the Democrats do this, they go back and buy out
the person and influence of the people they cut down to get there.
Obama cut a deal with Clinton when she was the sacrificial lamb who took the hit
last time so he could get ahead.

Because Cruz is too principled, he would object and not let Trump buy his influence or support back.
Trump has to earn it. But this takes time.

So the party will need more time to resolve issues and reunite on principles.
in the end that will be more stable, but won't likely happen in time for this election.

Maybe in 1-2 more years, the pruning process will allow the better branches to bloom.

 

[Fenton Lum]

It's sad the Liberals think they are champions of equality, liberty, and human rights. The fools will soon see their liberties, their rights, and their equality rapidly disappear under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism embracing Democratic leadership. Hillary said her supporters were stupid and easily manipulated. She was right.

Keep up the partisanshit, it's bound to save you.

 

[emilynghiem]

It's sad the Liberals think they are champions of equality, liberty, and human rights. The fools will soon see their liberties, their rights, and their equality rapidly disappear under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism embracing Democratic leadership. Hillary said her supporters were stupid and easily manipulated. She was right.

Where I think this is heading: the liberals who depend on Democratic Party, govt and especially courts to establish their beliefs LITERALLY as protected by law
(ie it has to be spelled out in writing first for them to feel equally recognized, such as the Supreme Court legally recognizing right to marriage and not just exercising this under freedom of religion that everyone already has)

will require a separate court and govt system based on their beliefs.

And the only way other parties would agree to this is if they also have their own courts and representation based on theirs.

Like how States have their own courts, laws and democratic process/reps,
each Party should set up their own and recognize each others' right to their own.

Then there can be equal exercise and enforcement of beliefs.

And these Parties, just like the several states, form a convention
and agree how to manage and interact with the NATIONAL level that governs all the other states/parties in a union.

The only way to maintain total control is to set up your own program that you run yourself.
So that's where these parties are heading so they can all exercise equal control over their own respective agenda, membership and resources.

Like letting the Protestants and Catholics separate and operate as separate entities
instead of forcing them under one Pope who pontificates for all people. Nope, just the ones who choose to follow.

We have two major denominations of beliefs:
* those who believe the Constitution is to LIMIT the authority of govt and maximize the liberty of the people
* those who believe the govt is to ESTABLISH the collective will of the people and maximize public access and protections
by running all these THROUGH govt

To treat people of these beliefs equally, we can recognize Parties as means of representation and managing resources democratically,
then negotiate public policy based on where all Parties agree, similar to making sure all States consent to federal policies affecting the nation.

So any places where people disagre e by political belief,
then like the Hindus Muslims Atheists Buddhists Christians etc,
they remain free to elect follow and fund their own policies that correspond to their beliefs.
But not abuse either party, media, corporate influence or govt
to IMPOSE their beliefs on others of dissenting beliefs. But respect all political beliefs
equally the same way we treat religious beliefs.

 

[the_human_being]

It's sad the Liberals think they are champions of equality, liberty, and human rights. The fools will soon see their liberties, their rights, and their equality rapidly disappear under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism embracing Democratic leadership. Hillary said her supporters were stupid and easily manipulated. She was right.

Keep up the partisanshit, it's bound to save you.

Really? Actually I'm a patriotic American veteran.

Communists in Congress? Just count ’em

 

[Fenton Lum]

It's sad the Liberals think they are champions of equality, liberty, and human rights. The fools will soon see their liberties, their rights, and their equality rapidly disappear under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism embracing Democratic leadership. Hillary said her supporters were stupid and easily manipulated. She was right.

Keep up the partisanshit, it's bound to save you.

Really? Actually I'm a patriotic American veteran.

Communists in Congress? Just count ’em

I have no doubt that you actually do buy into that.

 

[the_human_being]

It's sad the Liberals think they are champions of equality, liberty, and human rights. The fools will soon see their liberties, their rights, and their equality rapidly disappear under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism embracing Democratic leadership. Hillary said her supporters were stupid and easily manipulated. She was right.

Keep up the partisanshit, it's bound to save you.

Really? Actually I'm a patriotic American veteran.

Communists in Congress? Just count ’em

I have no doubt that you actually do buy into that.

I certainly do. I have actually seen some of them admit it on television.

 

[Fenton Lum]

It's sad the Liberals think they are champions of equality, liberty, and human rights. The fools will soon see their liberties, their rights, and their equality rapidly disappear under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism embracing Democratic leadership. Hillary said her supporters were stupid and easily manipulated. She was right.

Keep up the partisanshit, it's bound to save you.

Really? Actually I'm a patriotic American veteran.

Communists in Congress? Just count ’em

I have no doubt that you actually do buy into that.

I certainly do. I have actually seen some of them admit it on television.

Oh no, I meant the "I'm a patriotic American veteran" bit.

 

[the_human_being]

It's sad the Liberals think they are champions of equality, liberty, and human rights. The fools will soon see their liberties, their rights, and their equality rapidly disappear under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and Communism embracing Democratic leadership. Hillary said her supporters were stupid and easily manipulated. She was right.

Keep up the partisanshit, it's bound to save you.

Really? Actually I'm a patriotic American veteran.

Communists in Congress? Just count ’em

I have no doubt that you actually do buy into that.

I certainly do. I have actually seen some of them admit it on television.

Oh no, I meant the "I'm a patriotic American veteran" bit.

Of course you need to deflect from the truth of your Communist leanings.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Keep up the partisanshit, it's bound to save you.

Really? Actually I'm a patriotic American veteran.

Communists in Congress? Just count ’em

I have no doubt that you actually do buy into that.

I certainly do. I have actually seen some of them admit it on television.

Oh no, I meant the "I'm a patriotic American veteran" bit.

Of course you need to deflect from the truth of your Communist leanings.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, sure mac, commie, whatever.

 

[the_human_being]

Really? Actually I'm a patriotic American veteran.

Communists in Congress? Just count ’em

I have no doubt that you actually do buy into that.

I certainly do. I have actually seen some of them admit it on television.

Oh no, I meant the "I'm a patriotic American veteran" bit.

Of course you need to deflect from the truth of your Communist leanings.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, sure mac, commie, whatever.

And Coward as well.

 

[Ray9]

Michael Moore has predicted that Trump will win. Moore gained fame with his first documentary film Roger and Me, about the plight of average workers whose lives were devastated by plant closings in his hometown of flint Michigan. Moore does not see Trump supporters as a basket of deplorables but good regular people who need jobs and economic security. He personally understands the dissatisfaction of working people with the political establishment. He has been talking to them and listening to them. Moore is no conservative and he has not come right out and said he supports trump but he does not condemn citizens who say they will vote for Trump.

You will never get Moore's angle or point of view in the American press. The mission of the press in America was originally characterized to comfort the afflicted while afflicting the comfortable. Today the American press has become so joined at the hip of the establishment that it inflicts the interests of the comfortable onto the afflicted.

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