Laura Ingraham discovers Bush is to blame for ISIS: ‘Iraq is worse than before we went in’

I agree with Bushes decision to RESUME the war with Iraq as Saddam was violating the cease fire agreement on a daily basis.

Tell me what ceasefire agreement that Saddam Hussein was violating in March 2003. Saddam Hussein was in fact violating the 1991 ceasefire agreement in October 2002 but he ceaced to violate that ceasefire agreement after November 2002 when the UNSC passed UNSC Resolution 1441 at the request of GW Bush in order to attempt to disarm Iraq peacefully and avoid war.

What violations by SH during the first three months of 2003 are you talking about?
 
You don't know what you are talking about. This organization has been a problem in Iraq from around 2003, and affiliated with AQ. All the accounts you read about AQ doing in Iraq was done by ISIL.

Baghdadi's terrorist followings was affiliated operationally with AQ (Senior Varsity) until February this year when the official split became known.

You are wrong and your extended and lengthy response is meaningless.


Obama made the JV comment in January this year. Give it up. You look silly carrying on as you are doing.
 
The post belongs in the media forum. Cherry picked sentences not withstanding where does Ingraham say ISIS was Bush's fault? When the hell are lefties going to come to grips with the fact that their guy is in charge and he has been in office for almost six years?
 
You don't know what you are talking about. This organization has been a problem in Iraq from around 2003, and affiliated with AQ. All the accounts you read about AQ doing in Iraq was done by ISIL.

Baghdadi's terrorist followings was affiliated operationally with AQ (Senior Varsity) until February this year when the official split became known.

You are wrong and your extended and lengthy response is meaningless.


Obama made the JV comment in January this year. Give it up. You look silly carrying on as you are doing.

Unsupported claims paired with unwarranted conclusions and NO LINKS to real authorities = FAIL.

You havent done a thing to defend your point of view other than run your mouth, quackboy.
 
Libs those bush tires you have been riding on for 6 years are just about to blow out. I'd stop and change them to some obama retreads .
 
I agree with Bushes decision to RESUME the war with Iraq as Saddam was violating the cease fire agreement on a daily basis.

Tell me what ceasefire agreement that Saddam Hussein was violating in March 2003. Saddam Hussein was in fact violating the 1991 ceasefire agreement in October 2002 but he ceaced to violate that ceasefire agreement after November 2002 when the UNSC passed UNSC Resolution 1441 at the request of GW Bush in order to attempt to disarm Iraq peacefully and avoid war.

What violations by SH during the first three months of 2003 are you talking about?

What violations? You are joking? Daily violations, interference with inspectors, delays, refusal to provide documentation of WMDs destroyed, etc. Good Lord, if you havent read anything on the subject then go back to playing with your dog or whatever because you are wasting everyone's time here.

That resolution called for resumption of the war if the Iraqis failed to comply with its resolutions. There is dispute if the violation of the agreement enabled individual states to resume the war individually or not, but that being the history of the resolution in relation to a cease fire OF COURSE the war was allowed to resume if the cease fire was repeatedly broken. To peacenik wackos there is never justification for war regardless, but the US wen ahead anyway, and good we did, too.

The mistake was staying to rebuild, a neocon goal to try and prove that Arab nations can be rebuilt into modern nations by force.

Again we have proved that that does not work.

As to the rest of your nonsense, you are just tossing things to see what sticks and nothing has so far.
 
Tell me what ceasefire agreement that Saddam Hussein was violating in March 2003.

Daily violations, interference with inspectors, delays, refusal to provide documentation of WMDs destroyed, etc.

What daily violations and interference with inspectors in March 2003? Can you cite UN Weapons inspection chiefs on that?

Saddam Hussein was in fact violating the 1991 ceasefire agreement in October 2002 but he ceased to violate that ceasefire agreement after November 2002 when the UNSC passed UNSC Resolution 1441 at the request of GW Bush in order to attempt to disarm Iraq peacefully and avoid war.

That resolution called for resumption of the war if the Iraqis failed to comply with its resolutions. .

No it did not call for resumption of war. It called for the UNSC to convene and determine what to do "IF" Iraq failed to take its final opportunity to comply as stipulated within UNSC Res 1441.

You need to not make false statements about a written legal document (1441) that all of us can read. That resolution did not call for resumption of war. How is it that you would make such an outlandish claim?
 
Daily violations, interference with inspectors, delays, refusal to provide documentation of WMDs destroyed, etc.

I am not sorry at all to inform you that that the fifteen member UNSC did not agree (at that time) with your above claims. We know that because they did not support the March 7, 2003 Draft Resolution (see below) that Bush and Blair tried to get passed in order to have UNSC authorization for the US and UK invasion of Iraq that commenced on March 19. 2003.


Draft Resolution 07mar2003 to UN from Spain, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and United States of America: The Security Council - Decides that Iraq will have failed to take the final opportunity afforded by resolution 1441 (2002) unless, on or before 17 March 2003, the Council concludes that Iraq has demonstrated full, unconditional, immediate and active cooperation in accordance with its disarmament obligations under resolution 1441(2002) and previous relevant resolutions, and is yielding possession to UNMOVIC and the IAEA of all weapons, weapon delivery and support systems and structures, prohibited by resolution 687 (1991) and all subsequent relevant resolutions, and all information regarding prior destruction of such items;
http://www.un.org/News/dh/iraq/res-iraq-07mar03-en-rev.pdf


So who in your mind JimBowie declared Saddam Hussein to be in violation of UNSC Resolution 1441 which granted Iraq a final opportunity to comply? Iraq did not force the inspections out and to end. Bush did that with his decision to invade on March 17 2003.
 
Tell me what ceasefire agreement that Saddam Hussein was violating in March 2003.

Daily violations, interference with inspectors, delays, refusal to provide documentation of WMDs destroyed, etc.

What daily violations and interference with inspectors in March 2003? Can you cite UN Weapons inspection chiefs on that?

Saddam Hussein was in fact violating the 1991 ceasefire agreement in October 2002 but he ceased to violate that ceasefire agreement after November 2002 when the UNSC passed UNSC Resolution 1441 at the request of GW Bush in order to attempt to disarm Iraq peacefully and avoid war.

That resolution called for resumption of the war if the Iraqis failed to comply with its resolutions. .

No it did not call for resumption of war. It called for the UNSC to convene and determine what to do "IF" Iraq failed to take its final opportunity to comply as stipulated within UNSC Res 1441.

You need to not make false statements about a written legal document (1441) that all of us can read. That resolution did not call for resumption of war. How is it that you would make such an outlandish claim?

The document called for a resumption of the war if certain conditions were met, duh.

How do you think you are persuading anyone of anything by acting stupid, or is it NOT an act on your part?

You really think the USA would agree to a replacement of the cease fire doc with some limpwristic piece of crap paper that has no consequences for violation of the agreement?

If so you are an idiot.
 
Daily violations, interference with inspectors, delays, refusal to provide documentation of WMDs destroyed, etc.

I am not sorry at all to inform you that that the fifteen member UNSC did not agree (at that time) with your above claims. We know that because they did not support the March 7, 2003 Draft Resolution (see below) that Bush and Blair tried to get passed in order to have UNSC authorization for the US and UK invasion of Iraq that commenced on March 19. 2003.


Draft Resolution 07mar2003 to UN from Spain, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and United States of America: The Security Council - Decides that Iraq will have failed to take the final opportunity afforded by resolution 1441 (2002) unless, on or before 17 March 2003, the Council concludes that Iraq has demonstrated full, unconditional, immediate and active cooperation in accordance with its disarmament obligations under resolution 1441(2002) and previous relevant resolutions, and is yielding possession to UNMOVIC and the IAEA of all weapons, weapon delivery and support systems and structures, prohibited by resolution 687 (1991) and all subsequent relevant resolutions, and all information regarding prior destruction of such items;
http://www.un.org/News/dh/iraq/res-iraq-07mar03-en-rev.pdf


So who in your mind JimBowie declared Saddam Hussein to be in violation of UNSC Resolution 1441 which granted Iraq a final opportunity to comply? Iraq did not force the inspections out and to end. Bush did that with his decision to invade on March 17 2003.

Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein,
Recalling that its resolution 1441 (2002), while deciding that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations, afforded Iraq a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations under relevant resolutions,
Recalling that in its resolution 1441 (2002) the Council decided that false statements or omissions in the declaration submitted by Iraq pursuant to that resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, that resolution, would constitute a further material breach,
Noting, in that context, that in its resolution 1441 (2002), the Council recalled that it has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations,
Noting that Iraq has submitted a declaration pursuant to its resolution 1441 (2002) containing false statements and omissions and has failed to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, that resolution,

Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq, Kuwait, and the neighbouring States, Mindful of its primary responsibility under the Charter of the United Nations for the maintenance of international peace and security, Recognizing the threat Iraq’s non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,
Determined to secure full compliance with its decisions and to restore international peace and security in the area, Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations, 1. Reaffirms the need for full implementation of resolution 1441 (2002); 2. Calls on Iraq immediately to take the decisions necessary in the interests of its people and the region; 3. Decides that Iraq will have failed to take the final opportunity afforded by resolution 1441 (2002) unless, on or before 17 March 2003, the Council concludes that Iraq has demonstrated full, unconditional, immediate and active cooperation in accordance with its disarmament obligations under resolution 1441 (2002) and previous relevant resolutions, and is yielding possession to UNMOVIC and the IAEA of all weapons, weapon delivery and support systems and structures, prohibited by resolution 687 (1991) and all subsequent relevant resolutions, and all information regarding prior destruction of such items; 4. Decides to remain seized of the matter.

Of course peaceniks like to think that this 'full implementation' only means that they could have another Security Council vote. That is not how the Bush administration or any reasonable interpretation of the international law would affirm. If an agreed cease fir is violated repeatedly as in this case, there is nothing prohibiting a nation from RESUMING THE WAR WITHOUT UN APPROVAL, dude.
 
You don't know what you are talking about. This organization has been a problem in Iraq from around 2003, and affiliated with AQ. All the accounts you read about AQ doing in Iraq was done by ISIL.

Baghdadi's terrorist followings was affiliated operationally with AQ (Senior Varsity) until February this year when the official split became known.

You are wrong and your extended and lengthy response is meaningless.


Obama made the JV comment in January this year. Give it up. You look silly carrying on as you are doing.
Obama claims now that he didn't make the comment, or that he wasn't talking about ISIS.
 
Laura gave up her conservative credentials a long time ago. She was vying for a slot on FOX and lo and behold she was slagging Romney daily on her show. Slagging conservatives on a continual basis.

Now she's just turned into another Ann Coulter doing and saying anything that will grab her a headline.

It doesn't surprise me at all that she would lay the development of ISIS and the mess in Iraq at Bush's feet.

Nor does it surprise me at the number of morons out there that will believe Bush made ISIS when in truth it was Obama/Harper/Cameron and others who have turned the ME which has always been a dog's breakfast into true FUBAR'D territory .

If these assholes hadn't been so intent on deposing Assad at any and all cost ISIS could not have become the most powerful and wealthy terror army/government on the planet.

Agreed....she's following the Coulter formula...nobody is "conservative" enough for her. It always amazes me that leftists continue to blame the wrong Bush for Iraq. If the old man had left well enough alone with regards to Kuwait, that war would never have happened. We had enough sway with Saddam to wait until we talked the Kuwaitis out of diagonal drilling under the Iraq border. Bush41 suckered Saddam into invading Kuwait with the Glaspie memo and then supplied the freaked out Saudi's with American GIs...including women. That freaked out bin-Laden and we all know the rest of the story. Were al-Qaida in Iraq before we invaded? Abu Nidal was there....Zarqawi was there....but they were under control. Sure, we chased Saddam out of Kuwait City and massacred his looters on the Highway to Hell. And then he tried to have pappy assassinated....Dubya did what any son would do with the same power....he went after him. If only Turkey had allowed 4th ID to sweep down through the sunni triangle there would have been no insurgency....that's on Rummy, not Bush43.
 

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