Lesbian Marrieds & Their 3 Adopted Kids Die. 3 Kids Still Missing

Parents kill kids. In the contard world:

If the parents are white and straight- no comment.

If they are black or lesbians- it is because of their skin color or sexual orientation.
That's just your way of saying that when it's lesbians or gays, we should definitely not talk about it. And hence the violence perpetuates in the silence...

That's just your way of saying that if a couple are Jews or Blacks or Lesbians- but not Christians, white, or hetero- that it is really, really important to talk about their religion, skin color or sexual orientation.
No, from the start you've been saying "why are we talking about this? Why is it important that lesbians are noted in the title...yada yada." And when that failed to bring sympathy results, you switched to "this thread is about bigotry!". Then when flacaltenn reminded you that it was about gender blending being a problem for hetero battered women, off you went again, claiming victimhood for your behavioral demographic.

The simple facts are that domestic violence (yes, also the kind that kills kids) is disproportionately present in the LGBT cult. As such, the word "lesbian" belongs in the title. All flacaltenn points are good ones and deserve a thread of their own. You want any and all topics about LGBT domestic violence squelched. Otherwise the dialogue isn't as shiny and clean as you want it to be.

When you derive a demographic identity from BEHAVIORS, then ALL the behaviors endemic to that identity are fair game under the microscope.
 
Parents kill kids. In the contard world:

If the parents are white and straight- no comment.

If they are black or lesbians- it is because of their skin color or sexual orientation.
That's just your way of saying that when it's lesbians or gays, we should definitely not talk about it. And hence the violence perpetuates in the silence...

That's just your way of saying that if a couple are Jews or Blacks or Lesbians- but not Christians, white, or hetero- that it is really, really important to talk about their religion, skin color or sexual orientation.
No, from the start you've been saying "why are we talking about this?

I have never asked why you are talking about this- I have been very clear from the beginning of this thread that the ONLY reason you are talking about this tragedy is because of your bigotry towards gays- and their children.
 
In what looks to be murder/suicide, two lesbian marrieds, Jennifer & Sarah Hart from the Northwest drove their car off a cliff into the ocean. 3 of the 6 adopted kids' bodies & 2 adults found. 3 kids still missing & presumed dead.

Child in viral Portland police hug photo missing, 5 family members dead after California cliff crash

The family left home in a hurry just after a visit from child protective services and the sheriff. One of the lesbians had been convicted of domestic violence:

The three children killed weren't using safety equipment and "came out" of the vehicle at some point, the highway patrol said. The women were found inside.....Neighbors in Woodland told KOIN (6) they suspected the couple's children may have been abused.....A Clark County deputy had accompanied Cowlitz County Child Protective Services to the family's home Friday but nobody answered the door, Sgt. Brent Waddell, a Clark County Sheriff's Office spokesman, told The Oregonian/OregonLive on Wednesday....The women left in a hurry with all six kids shortly after the visit by CPS, a neighbor told KOIN.

Sarah Hart was convicted of domestic assault in Minnesota in 2011, court records show.
Domestic Violence Likely More Frequent for Same-Sex Couples - Northwestern Now

One of the children was in a viral video about "Black Lives Matter":

In 2014, a photograph of a tear-stricken Devonte hugging Sgt. Bret Barnum during a tense "Black Lives Matter" demonstration in downtown Portland went viral.

The photo, originally published by The Oregonian/OregonLive, was featured on NBC's "Today" show, ABC News, CBS News, MSNBC, Fox News, USA Today and Time.com. It reached No. 1 on the social-sharing website Reddit and got widespread Facebook attention.

Too bad kids' lives don't matter. Three of the children were ejected from the car when it landed upside down in the Pacific Ocean after being apparently driven into the sea. Authorities surmise they were not wearing seat belts. The case is still under investigation.
Use common sense. Child abuse is not more likely in same sex couples. That's just bigoted hogwash. Heterosexual couples abuse their kids all the time, and there are murder suicides in heterosexual families all the time. To take this one example and use it as representative of the whole of same sex unions is stupid and irrational.
 
Children should not be allowed to remain in households where one or more parents is mentally ill. Once the authorities learn of such mental illness the children should be removed. In same sex households it is open and obvious that the parents are deviant and mentally ill. It's like allowing children to remain in homes where they are starved, beaten, locked in a cage.
 
No, as christians advanced toward them, pagan women in Armenia killed their children and themselves, which links to a faulty and biased U.S. Constitution, for according to ST Coleridge, xianity and paganism are the same religion. Persephone's easter egg hunt. #327 is uneducated and late.
 
Children should not be allowed to remain in households where one or more parents is mentally ill. Once the authorities learn of such mental illness the children should be removed. In same sex households it is open and obvious that the parents are deviant and mentally ill. It's like allowing children to remain in homes where they are starved, beaten, locked in a cage.

Dear Tipsycatlover
Not all lesbians or homosexual people are "mentally ill"
I know of a lesbian Christian grad student (well that was years ago while she was still studying theology) who went through all the same healing prayer and process that others go through
to heal of unwanted homosexual attractions, and she still remained the same and accepted it.

One of my friends who is a prominent well respected gay atheist and prison reform advocate
in Houston,helps counsel both rich and poor, liberals and conservatives, christian and nonchristian to forgive and recover from past issues in order to be more effective in daily lives and relations and social change in the community as well. He's more sane than most people I know who are too afraid to work with people of other groups, as he works with anyone who will work with him!

If we don't explain that this Christian spiritual healing (which has successfully healed people of unwanted unnatural homosexual and transgender identity issues)
DOESN'T force people to change, but allows each person to resolve and restore
their natural default status, this is causing WORSE backlash.

The liberals I know who FEAR research and knowledge about spiritual healing
are AFRAID it will be abused to FORCE people through therapy by "assuming
they are ALL mentally ill" which isn't the case either!

The same healing has helped people come out gay or transgender.
And it is the natural process people have used who were healed of abuses
that otherwise caused them to experience homosexual orientation or attractions that
weren't right for them.

these cases of dysphoria are DIFFERENT from people
who are spiritually homosexual or transgender.

Some people can change, some cannot.
Some have mental or spiritual disorders, and some are that way by nature
even if it is spiritual and not anything genetic which has also been disproven
by identical twins who weren't the same orientation.

To falsely assume that all homosexual orientation is mental illness that needs to be changed
is like saying all Rightwing are oppressive fundamentalists or terrorists.
Some extremists are dangerous and sick, but that doesn't mean
all conservative rightwing are.

This overly broad generalization "of whole groups" isn't going to solve any problems
but detracts from uniting and addressing the real cause of problems that can be corrected.

The SAME spiritual healing process helps diagnose treat and cure
mental illness and physical diseases in any people or groups,
not just homosexual. Everyone can benefit, including the liberals
who want to stop gun violence by criminally ill dangerous people.

If we can get away from this distraction of just targeting "homosexual" people as mentally ill,
maybe we COULD organize public support for spiritual healing to cure ALL mental illness!
 
Unfortunately for your position, spiritual healing is just as much nonsense and hairbrained as homosexuality. There is just no such thing as spiritual healing. So, if you intend to press your beliefs on me, be warned. You are wasting your time.
 
In what looks to be murder/suicide, two lesbian marrieds, Jennifer & Sarah Hart from the Northwest drove their car off a cliff into the ocean. 3 of the 6 adopted kids' bodies & 2 adults found. 3 kids still missing & presumed dead.

Child in viral Portland police hug photo missing, 5 family members dead after California cliff crash

The family left home in a hurry just after a visit from child protective services and the sheriff. One of the lesbians had been convicted of domestic violence:

The three children killed weren't using safety equipment and "came out" of the vehicle at some point, the highway patrol said. The women were found inside.....Neighbors in Woodland told KOIN (6) they suspected the couple's children may have been abused.....A Clark County deputy had accompanied Cowlitz County Child Protective Services to the family's home Friday but nobody answered the door, Sgt. Brent Waddell, a Clark County Sheriff's Office spokesman, told The Oregonian/OregonLive on Wednesday....The women left in a hurry with all six kids shortly after the visit by CPS, a neighbor told KOIN.

Sarah Hart was convicted of domestic assault in Minnesota in 2011, court records show.
Domestic Violence Likely More Frequent for Same-Sex Couples - Northwestern Now

One of the children was in a viral video about "Black Lives Matter":

In 2014, a photograph of a tear-stricken Devonte hugging Sgt. Bret Barnum during a tense "Black Lives Matter" demonstration in downtown Portland went viral.

The photo, originally published by The Oregonian/OregonLive, was featured on NBC's "Today" show, ABC News, CBS News, MSNBC, Fox News, USA Today and Time.com. It reached No. 1 on the social-sharing website Reddit and got widespread Facebook attention.

Too bad kids' lives don't matter. Three of the children were ejected from the car when it landed upside down in the Pacific Ocean after being apparently driven into the sea. Authorities surmise they were not wearing seat belts. The case is still under investigation.
We all know queers are inherently mentally unstable. (sarcasm)
 
In what looks to be murder/suicide, two lesbian marrieds, Jennifer & Sarah Hart from the Northwest drove their car off a cliff into the ocean. 3 of the 6 adopted kids' bodies & 2 adults found. 3 kids still missing & presumed dead.

Child in viral Portland police hug photo missing, 5 family members dead after California cliff crash

The family left home in a hurry just after a visit from child protective services and the sheriff. One of the lesbians had been convicted of domestic violence:

The three children killed weren't using safety equipment and "came out" of the vehicle at some point, the highway patrol said. The women were found inside.....Neighbors in Woodland told KOIN (6) they suspected the couple's children may have been abused.....A Clark County deputy had accompanied Cowlitz County Child Protective Services to the family's home Friday but nobody answered the door, Sgt. Brent Waddell, a Clark County Sheriff's Office spokesman, told The Oregonian/OregonLive on Wednesday....The women left in a hurry with all six kids shortly after the visit by CPS, a neighbor told KOIN.

Sarah Hart was convicted of domestic assault in Minnesota in 2011, court records show.
Domestic Violence Likely More Frequent for Same-Sex Couples - Northwestern Now

One of the children was in a viral video about "Black Lives Matter":

In 2014, a photograph of a tear-stricken Devonte hugging Sgt. Bret Barnum during a tense "Black Lives Matter" demonstration in downtown Portland went viral.

The photo, originally published by The Oregonian/OregonLive, was featured on NBC's "Today" show, ABC News, CBS News, MSNBC, Fox News, USA Today and Time.com. It reached No. 1 on the social-sharing website Reddit and got widespread Facebook attention.

Too bad kids' lives don't matter. Three of the children were ejected from the car when it landed upside down in the Pacific Ocean after being apparently driven into the sea. Authorities surmise they were not wearing seat belts. The case is still under investigation.
We all know queers are inherently mentally unstable. (sarcasm)
By and large, they're sex addicts. Their very self-image is based on sexual perversion.
 
Mentally unstable dykes should not have been allowed to adopt children.

Heterosexual women never kill their children

Susan Smith - Wikipedia

You're late, that was 1st page material. It was even predicted that would come up.

I tried to get additional info. Any updates on this? Bodies found?

To me it's looking like 1 abusive partner situation now.

Just looking more and more like murder suicide. I don't know whether we will ever know if it was just the driver- or whether both of them were in a pact together.

Either way- only sick assholes kill kids- especially their own kids.
 
Children should not be allowed to remain in households where one or more parents is mentally ill. Once the authorities learn of such mental illness the children should be removed. In same sex households it is open and obvious that the parents are deviant and mentally ill. It's like allowing children to remain in homes where they are starved, beaten, locked in a cage.

Remember this is coming from the deviant who cheers on ISIS killing gays- and thinks that children are better off being killed- than being raised by gays.

I hope no kids are allowed near Tipsy.
 
In what looks to be murder/suicide, two lesbian marrieds, Jennifer & Sarah Hart from the Northwest drove their car off a cliff into the ocean. 3 of the 6 adopted kids' bodies & 2 adults found. 3 kids still missing & presumed dead.

Child in viral Portland police hug photo missing, 5 family members dead after California cliff crash

The family left home in a hurry just after a visit from child protective services and the sheriff. One of the lesbians had been convicted of domestic violence:

The three children killed weren't using safety equipment and "came out" of the vehicle at some point, the highway patrol said. The women were found inside.....Neighbors in Woodland told KOIN (6) they suspected the couple's children may have been abused.....A Clark County deputy had accompanied Cowlitz County Child Protective Services to the family's home Friday but nobody answered the door, Sgt. Brent Waddell, a Clark County Sheriff's Office spokesman, told The Oregonian/OregonLive on Wednesday....The women left in a hurry with all six kids shortly after the visit by CPS, a neighbor told KOIN.

Sarah Hart was convicted of domestic assault in Minnesota in 2011, court records show.
Domestic Violence Likely More Frequent for Same-Sex Couples - Northwestern Now

One of the children was in a viral video about "Black Lives Matter":

In 2014, a photograph of a tear-stricken Devonte hugging Sgt. Bret Barnum during a tense "Black Lives Matter" demonstration in downtown Portland went viral.

The photo, originally published by The Oregonian/OregonLive, was featured on NBC's "Today" show, ABC News, CBS News, MSNBC, Fox News, USA Today and Time.com. It reached No. 1 on the social-sharing website Reddit and got widespread Facebook attention.

Too bad kids' lives don't matter. Three of the children were ejected from the car when it landed upside down in the Pacific Ocean after being apparently driven into the sea. Authorities surmise they were not wearing seat belts. The case is still under investigation.
We all know queers are inherently mentally unstable. (sarcasm)
By and large, they're sex addicts. Their very self-image is based on sexual perversion.

Why are you talking about evangelicals again?
 
Parents kill kids. In the contard world:

If the parents are white and straight- no comment.

If they are black or lesbians- it is because of their skin color or sexual orientation.
That's just your way of saying that when it's lesbians or gays, we should definitely not talk about it. And hence the violence perpetuates in the silence...

That's just your way of saying that if a couple are Jews or Blacks or Lesbians- but not Christians, white, or hetero- that it is really, really important to talk about their religion, skin color or sexual orientation.
No, from the start you've been saying "why are we talking about this? Why is it important that lesbians are noted in the title...yada yada." And when that failed to bring sympathy results, you switched to "this thread is about bigotry!". Then when flacaltenn reminded you that it was about gender blending being a problem for hetero battered women, off you went again, claiming victimhood for your behavioral demographic.

The simple facts are that domestic violence (yes, also the kind that kills kids) is disproportionately present in the LGBT cult. As such, the word "lesbian" belongs in the title. All flacaltenn points are good ones and deserve a thread of their own. You want any and all topics about LGBT domestic violence squelched. Otherwise the dialogue isn't as shiny and clean as you want it to be.

When you derive a demographic identity from BEHAVIORS, then ALL the behaviors endemic to that identity are fair game under the microscope.

Dear Syriusly and Silhouette
If this problem of "bigotry" is made worse by labelling people as Lesbian or LGBT and thus treating them as a group or class,
then WHY ARE advocates TRYING to get protected as a "class"???

Conservatives and Constitutionalists HAVE been trying to treat LGBT as a BEHAVIOR so this doesn't happen. I even tried to explain LGBT beliefs (both for as against) as FAITH BASED so everyone can respect free choice and quit abusing govt to impose one belief or bias or another but stay neutral.

You can't have it both ways.

If you don't want gay or lesbian or transgender people "treated as a group" then don't argue to be recognized as a group!!!

If it's individual BEHAVIOR and BELIEFS we are talking about, that's open to individual choice. Not trying to legislate for a whole group and then complain afterwards!
 
In what looks to be murder/suicide, two lesbian marrieds, Jennifer & Sarah Hart from the Northwest drove their car off a cliff into the ocean. 3 of the 6 adopted kids' bodies & 2 adults found. 3 kids still missing & presumed dead.

Child in viral Portland police hug photo missing, 5 family members dead after California cliff crash

The family left home in a hurry just after a visit from child protective services and the sheriff. One of the lesbians had been convicted of domestic violence:

The three children killed weren't using safety equipment and "came out" of the vehicle at some point, the highway patrol said. The women were found inside.....Neighbors in Woodland told KOIN (6) they suspected the couple's children may have been abused.....A Clark County deputy had accompanied Cowlitz County Child Protective Services to the family's home Friday but nobody answered the door, Sgt. Brent Waddell, a Clark County Sheriff's Office spokesman, told The Oregonian/OregonLive on Wednesday....The women left in a hurry with all six kids shortly after the visit by CPS, a neighbor told KOIN.

Sarah Hart was convicted of domestic assault in Minnesota in 2011, court records show.
Domestic Violence Likely More Frequent for Same-Sex Couples - Northwestern Now

One of the children was in a viral video about "Black Lives Matter":

In 2014, a photograph of a tear-stricken Devonte hugging Sgt. Bret Barnum during a tense "Black Lives Matter" demonstration in downtown Portland went viral.

The photo, originally published by The Oregonian/OregonLive, was featured on NBC's "Today" show, ABC News, CBS News, MSNBC, Fox News, USA Today and Time.com. It reached No. 1 on the social-sharing website Reddit and got widespread Facebook attention.

Too bad kids' lives don't matter. Three of the children were ejected from the car when it landed upside down in the Pacific Ocean after being apparently driven into the sea. Authorities surmise they were not wearing seat belts. The case is still under investigation.
We all know queers are inherently mentally unstable. (sarcasm)
By and large, they're sex addicts. Their very self-image is based on sexual perversion.

Why are you talking about evangelicals again?
Their self-image is based on evangelizing. You won't see a difference.
 
Unfortunately for your position, spiritual healing is just as much nonsense and hairbrained as homosexuality. There is just no such thing as spiritual healing. So, if you intend to press your beliefs on me, be warned. You are wasting your time.

????
Are we talking about the same thing Tipsycatlover?
Not "faith healing" which is fraudulent abusive and dangerous.

but spiritual healing that is based on forgiveness therapy,
similar to AA recovery in steps, and is a natural process
that works WITH science and medicine.

Tipsy you DO know that this method of spiritual healing I'm referring to
HAS BEEN documented and published by formal medical study, right?

Look up the study on healing Rheumatoid Arthritis by the methods
practiced by Dr. Francis MacNutt's healing ministry and educational
programs in Florida. His book on HEALING is a standard text
in seminary to teach the different TYPES of prayer and why and
how this particular process works (and methods that fail and why).

Templeton Fdn funded that study. I spoke with a grant reviewer
with Templeton who saw this field of therapy as "already proven."
It's already been shown by multiple studies on the correlation
between forgiveness and better mental and physical health and healing.

Your lack of research into this field does not constitute "nonexistence."

If you really believe what you are saying,
I'm willing to make a million dollar bet with you
that the spiritual healing I am talking about is
real and it works effectively, naturally and voluntarily.

So whatever you are saying is not real or valid
you must mean something else!

But if you want to make a bet, I am happy to raise
a million dollars toward more research in effective steps of spiritual healing
in order to publicize this knowledge and save more lives!

Dr. Scott Peck wrote about this process used to
treat and cure schizophrenic patients.

Dr. Phillip Goldfedder changed his practice as a neurosurgeon
after he saw proof that spiritual healing worked more effectively.

Drs. Francis and Judith MacNutt have headed their nonprofit outreach
and helped cure people of the causes of cancer, depression and suicidal
illness, schizophrenia, RA, and other conditions, as well as helping
families to heal as a result. That's how forgiveness works, it opens the
natural channels between mind and body so we can overcome ills and
restore our natural harmony between mind and body and relations as well.

www.christianhealingmin.org
www.healingisyours.com

Let me know if you want to make a million dollar bet.
I have an atheist friend in Spain who has been looking to see
more medical researched proof of this, too. We set up two teams
and raise money by people betting which team is right.
The money we raise goes to the charity cause and choice
of the winning team. I will pick spiritual healing nonprofits
like Dr. MacNutt and Olivia Reiner's nonprofit outreach to
be researched as the nonprofit recipient of winning donations.
You can pick whatever group(s) you believe are more deserving
if you win the bet. To be fair, I don't believe in taking advantage of
someone who didn't have the same information I did going into the bet.
So please look up Dr. MacNutt and decide if you think Templeton Fdn
would fund a "fraudulent" research study on RA if it wasn't true!
 
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Parents kill kids. In the contard world:

If the parents are white and straight- no comment.

If they are black or lesbians- it is because of their skin color or sexual orientation.
That's just your way of saying that when it's lesbians or gays, we should definitely not talk about it. And hence the violence perpetuates in the silence...

That's just your way of saying that if a couple are Jews or Blacks or Lesbians- but not Christians, white, or hetero- that it is really, really important to talk about their religion, skin color or sexual orientation.
No, from the start you've been saying "why are we talking about this? Why is it important that lesbians are noted in the title...yada yada." And when that failed to bring sympathy results, you switched to "this thread is about bigotry!". Then when flacaltenn reminded you that it was about gender blending being a problem for hetero battered women, off you went again, claiming victimhood for your behavioral demographic.

The simple facts are that domestic violence (yes, also the kind that kills kids) is disproportionately present in the LGBT cult. As such, the word "lesbian" belongs in the title. All flacaltenn points are good ones and deserve a thread of their own. You want any and all topics about LGBT domestic violence squelched. Otherwise the dialogue isn't as shiny and clean as you want it to be.

When you derive a demographic identity from BEHAVIORS, then ALL the behaviors endemic to that identity are fair game under the microscope.

Dear Syriusly and Silhouette
If this problem of "bigotry" is made worse by labelling people as Lesbian or LGBT and thus treating them as a group or class,
then WHY ARE advocates TRYING to get protected as a "class"???

Because they have been discriminated against as a 'class'?

By employers firing them for being gay. By people trying to legislate denying them employment for being gay.

These are no 'theoreticals'- remember evangelicals tried to pass laws denying employment as teachers for someone suspected of being gay.

And indeed even in this thread we have those arguing that children shouldn't even be allowed near Americans that are gay.
 

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