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These idiots live in a Revisionist Dreamland.Lets "compare & contrast" with "critical thinking"!
The Democrat's approach and subsequent results:
Jimmy Carter had tried accommodating America's enemies. He cut back on defense. He made humility the hallmark of American diplomacy. Our foes responded with aggression: Iranian revolutionaries danced in the rubble of the U.S. Embassy; the Soviets sponsored armed insurgencies and invaded Afghanistan.
Small wonder that people are saying the world looks like a rerun of the Carter years. The Obama Doctrine possesses many Carteresque attributes: a heavy reliance on treaties and international institutions; a more humble (and, often, apologetic) U.S. presence around the globe, and a diminishment of U.S. hard power.
And the Obama Doctrine has reaped pretty much the same results. When asked if he feared a U.S. military strike against his country's nuclear program, the Iranian president scoffed at the notion.
Meanwhile, after yielding to Russian complaints and canceling plans to build missile defenses against an Iranian attack, Obama signed an arms control treaty which, the Kremlin boasts, will further limit our missile defense. Yet Moscow still complains that the more limited system the Obama administration wants to field is too much. Once again, American concessions have only encouraged Moscow to be more aggressive. And now Russia state tv is boasting that they have the capabilities to turn the U.S. into "radioactive ash".
And lets not forget Bill Clinton ignoring Al Qaeda and pulling out of Mogadishu because he didn't have the political stomach for either - which was the dog whistle signal for our enemies to go on the offensive and eventually lead to 9/11.
The Republican's approach and subsequent results:
As Reagan entered his presidency, the U.S. economy and the American spirit were low. Still, he committed to a policy of "peace through strength." And, even before he put his plan into action, our enemies began to worry.
Yuri Andropov, the chief of the KGB -- the Soviet's spy network -- feared that Reagan planned to attack. "Andropov," wrote Steven Hayward, in his "Age of Reagan"ordered the KGB to organize a special surveillance program in the United States -- code-named Operation RYAN -- to look for signs of preparations for an attack."
Reagan's assertive approach to foreign policy did not spark war. It produced peace. The Kremlin discovered Reagan was not the cowboy they feared. But they respected the more muscular United States. Russia agreed to the most effective arms control treaty in history.
The benefits spread. According to the Canadian-based Human Security project, deaths from political violence worldwide (even accounting for operations in Afghanistan and Iraq) have declined continually since the end of the Cold War ... until recently.
Lesson from Jimmy Carter: Weakness invites aggression
So Iran wasn't entitled to self governance?
They had to endure the results of a CIA backed coup and live under the oppression of an American puppet government?
Let's be clear.
You really believe the Iranians were "self-governed"?
We're the Iraqis also "self-governed" under Saddam Hussein? We're the Russians also "self-governed" under Joseph Stalin?
If the strongest argument you can make is an outrageous and completely historically inaccurate one, it really proves you're on the wrong side of the debate.
They never learn from history because they're always revising it to suit their politics. They're NUTZ...and they get a lot of people killed because they ignore real history...they think they can do it better...and still screw up.The distinguishing characteristic of a modern liberal, is that he makes a point of NEVER learning from his mistakes. He blames them instead on someone else, and therefore believes he has nothing to learn from them.
Dmitry Kiselyov did just this week (once again we see you are completely uninformed about what is going on)...
Russian news head: We can bomb US into radioactive ash | New York Post
Ah so a Journalist in Russia is in command of the Nuclear Strike force of that country.
Interesting.
Any other pearls of wisdom you have floating about?
Uh-oh...someone had to move the goal posts after being owned with facts. You said (and I quote) "When did a Russian Official, acting on behalf of the Russian government, issue such a threat". Well, Dmitry Kiselyov is a Russian official acting on behalf of Putin himself. You're follow up question (which moves the goal post out of desperation and humiliation at having your lack of knowledge exposed) is as absurd as saying that anyting out of John Carney's mouth doesn't count because he is "not in command of the nuclear strike force" (nice absurd Hollywood lingo there too junior nuclear "strike force").
Don't you ever get tired of being owned and having your ignorance exposed? You literally made the absurd claim - in the form of a question - that no Russian official acting on behalf of the Russian government had made that threat when in fact that was exactly what happened.
I would ask you if you have any other "pearls of wisdom" for us but you proved a LONG time ago that you completely lack wisdom in any capacity!
The honest to God truth hurts, doesn't?
This is where we are today. The chickens have come home to roost.
Why was the Soviet Union able to put up the Iron Curtain? Because we let them.
What truth?
This is the "agreement" you are talking about.
Nuclear weapons and Ukraine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the newly independent Ukraine had on its territory what was the third largest strategic nuclear weapons arsenal in the world. It was larger than those of Britain, France, and China combined. On June 1, 1996 Ukraine became a non-nuclear nation when it sent the last of its 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads to Russia for dismantling.[1] The first shipment of nuclear weapons from Ukraine to Russia (by train) was in March 1994.[2] In return for giving up its nuclear weapons, Ukraine, the United States of America, Russia, and the United Kingdom signed the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, pledging to respect Ukraine territorial integrity, a pledge that was arguably broken by Russia's 2014 invasion of Crimea.[3] However, there is a dispute whether Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances is anything more than a general statement of intent, lacking the rigor of an international treaty and accompanying ratification procedure.
It wasn't a treaty.
But this was a treaty.
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002_07-08/abmjul_aug02
That put on display, distinctly, how much the United States appreciates "treaties".
Then, Bush unilaterally invaded Iraq.
That..gave both China and Russia license to adopt the "Bush Doctrine".
They have nukes. That's all you need to play.
So you're making up excuses.
Duly noted.
And Obama IS? Really? Bush wasn't responsible for 9/11, CLINTON was. But you just love the revisionist horseshit, don't you?They were afraid to launch an attack while Clinton was President. With Bush they knew thay had a soft President and actually launched FOUR attacks
Bush responded by reading a childrens book
Your a trip and an idiot.
1. Your still blaming bush for obama's lack of being a good president five years after he got elected, but don't put any blame on clinton for 911. Only after 8 months being out of office.
2. Putin is taking over countries, and obama is reasleasing his march madness picks
Bush did not keep us safe....no denying it
The OP has a point
Bush was considered weak, that is why the terrorists attacked us on 9-11
Actually they attacked us because Clinton gave them free roam to operate and did so while gutting defense. Al Qaeda operatives who were captured are on record that 9/11 took years of recruiting, training, planning, and financing. Bush was only on the job for less than 8 months and operating under Clinton's final defense-gutted budget when the attacks occured.
Oops...wrongwinger wrong once again!
Exactly. Let's see the resident dumbass rivisionist leftists spin this. ^^The OP has a point
Bush was considered weak, that is why the terrorists attacked us on 9-11
Actually they attacked us because Clinton gave them free roam to operate and did so while gutting defense. Al Qaeda operatives who were captured are on record that 9/11 took years of recruiting, training, planning, and financing. Bush was only on the job for less than 8 months and operating under Clinton's final defense-gutted budget when the attacks occured.
Oops...wrongwinger wrong once again!
It was reported that the 9/11 attacks took 9 years to plan and prepare for, which means they were busy sending their suicide terrorists to American pilot schools and planning during Clinton's entire term. He said no thanks when offered bin laden on a silver platter. The terrorists had everything in place and were ready to go by the time Bush took office.
Exactly. Let's see the resident dumbass rivisionist leftists spin this. ^^Actually they attacked us because Clinton gave them free roam to operate and did so while gutting defense. Al Qaeda operatives who were captured are on record that 9/11 took years of recruiting, training, planning, and financing. Bush was only on the job for less than 8 months and operating under Clinton's final defense-gutted budget when the attacks occured.
Oops...wrongwinger wrong once again!
It was reported that the 9/11 attacks took 9 years to plan and prepare for, which means they were busy sending their suicide terrorists to American pilot schools and planning during Clinton's entire term. He said no thanks when offered bin laden on a silver platter. The terrorists had everything in place and were ready to go by the time Bush took office.
Bush was handed the CIA report on the USS Cole when he took office, and did nothing about it.The OP has a point
Bush was considered weak, that is why the terrorists attacked us on 9-11
Actually they attacked us because Clinton gave them free roam to operate and did so while gutting defense. Al Qaeda operatives who were captured are on record that 9/11 took years of recruiting, training, planning, and financing. Bush was only on the job for less than 8 months and operating under Clinton's final defense-gutted budget when the attacks occured.
Oops...wrongwinger wrong once again!
Crimea is ALREADY GONE dumbass. Obama did NOTHING but bluster and draw lines. Putting laughed at his sorry ass. The EU isn't going to do anything either. 11 Diplomats sanctioned...big ass WHOOPIE. Obama is out of his league here...not to mention as POTUS. The dumbass should have NEVER been elected in the first place.Lesson from Jimmy Carter: Weakness invites aggression
I've yet to hear any Right-Winger detail what Obama should do to stop Putin from taking Crimea.
That's because they don't have any answers to anything.
Bush was handed the CIA report on the USS Cole when he took office, and did nothing about it.The OP has a point
Bush was considered weak, that is why the terrorists attacked us on 9-11
Actually they attacked us because Clinton gave them free roam to operate and did so while gutting defense. Al Qaeda operatives who were captured are on record that 9/11 took years of recruiting, training, planning, and financing. Bush was only on the job for less than 8 months and operating under Clinton's final defense-gutted budget when the attacks occured.
Oops...wrongwinger wrong once again!
bin Laden saw that weakness and exploited it.
You realize how ridiculous that sounds?
The honest to God truth hurts, doesn't?
This is where we are today. The chickens have come home to roost.
Why was the Soviet Union able to put up the Iron Curtain? Because we let them.
What truth?
This is the "agreement" you are talking about.
Nuclear weapons and Ukraine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the newly independent Ukraine had on its territory what was the third largest strategic nuclear weapons arsenal in the world. It was larger than those of Britain, France, and China combined. On June 1, 1996 Ukraine became a non-nuclear nation when it sent the last of its 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads to Russia for dismantling.[1] The first shipment of nuclear weapons from Ukraine to Russia (by train) was in March 1994.[2] In return for giving up its nuclear weapons, Ukraine, the United States of America, Russia, and the United Kingdom signed the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, pledging to respect Ukraine territorial integrity, a pledge that was arguably broken by Russia's 2014 invasion of Crimea.[3] However, there is a dispute whether Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances is anything more than a general statement of intent, lacking the rigor of an international treaty and accompanying ratification procedure.
It wasn't a treaty.
But this was a treaty.
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002_07-08/abmjul_aug02
That put on display, distinctly, how much the United States appreciates "treaties".
Then, Bush unilaterally invaded Iraq.
That..gave both China and Russia license to adopt the "Bush Doctrine".
They have nukes. That's all you need to play.
The distinguishing characteristic of a modern liberal, is that he makes a point of NEVER learning from his mistakes. He blames them instead on someone else, and therefore believes he has nothing to learn from them.
The distinguishing characteristic of a modern liberal, is that he makes a point of NEVER learning from his mistakes. He blames them instead on someone else, and therefore believes he has nothing to learn from them.
We learned from the failed Bush Presidency: Get out of Iraq, kill Osama bin Laden.
I laugh in your face.
Iraq is a MESS due to Obama changing terms of agreements...and bin-laden? He's been on radar for some time...Obama had to be BEGGED to make a fucking decision.The distinguishing characteristic of a modern liberal, is that he makes a point of NEVER learning from his mistakes. He blames them instead on someone else, and therefore believes he has nothing to learn from them.
We learned from the failed Bush Presidency: Get out of Iraq, kill Osama bin Laden.
I laugh in your face.
