Remember when Iran held American citizens hostage?

[Lesh]

maybe they saw this the first week of November:

Carter (D) 49
Reagan (R) 489

and saw the writing on the wall.

Maybe you’re full of shit and making excuses for why Reagan obviously did

No… definitely

 

[Auld Phart]

Yeah… Reagan was so “tough” that he traded arms with them… twice

I see you missed the memo stating it was Carter that began funding the Mujahideen long before the election.

 

[Lesh]

I see you missed the memo stating it was Carter that began funding the Mujahideen long before the election.

In Afghanistan?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Remember when the hostages were released the day after Reagan took office?

Let me repeat


THE DAY AFTER

Clearly the Reagan people had been asking Iran to hold those hostages until Carter left office.

Clearly the Reagan people had been illegally negotiating with Iran over them

That’s the Republican Party folks

And here this creep is trying to use the Gaza situation to help Trump

Wrong

There is no evidence of Reagan or " Reagan people "asking them to hold the hostages.

Only fools claim there was illegal negotiation with Iran over them

Such accusations require stonr evidence you have NONE,.

It makes no sense and is illogical to think that they negotiated to have them relased after the inaugration. If they wanted to do that they need only have kept them in captivity till after the election

 

[Soupnazi630]

Things like that require weeks/ months of negotiation and coordination. Clearly Reagan did that

No he did not

 

[Lesh]

Wrong

There is no evidence of Reagan or " Reagan people "asking them to hold the hostages.

Only fools claim there was illegal negotiation with Iran over them

Such accusations require stonr evidence you have NONE,.

It makes no sense and is illogical to think that they negotiated to have them relased after the inaugration. If they wanted to do that they need only have kept them in captivity till after the election

Of that had happened right after the election, Reagan takes a PR hit

 

[Soupnazi630]

Of that had happened right after the election, Reagan takes a PR hit

Wrong

He still would have won and no distraction from his inauguration

 

[Funzo Hoss]

Does anyone remember the Iranian hostage crisis under Jimmy Carter? The news covered it 24/7, and the inability of Carter to do anything about it, along with the massive inflation, basically took him down politically as a one termer.

Today? Today Iran still has American hostages, via Hamas in Israel. Hamas murdered and tood American hostages and are an appendage of Iran, yet the media ignores it todsay. As for inflation, yea, that's not much better either yet the media and voters seem not to care as they once did.

If the American voter has become incapable of voting for their own welfare, and the welfare of their country, then democracy fails us all.

To Jimmy Carter's credit, he did attempt a rescue effort to free the hostage, which unfortunately failed

Iran hostage rescue mission ends in disaster

On April 24, 1980, an ill-fated military operation to rescue the 52 American hostages held in Tehran ends with eight U.S. servicemen dead and no hostages rescued. With the Iran Hostage Crisis stretching into its sixth month and all diplomatic appeals to the Iranian government ending in failure...

www.history.com

But we live in a world today where the DNC literally does not give a damn about American citizens whatsoever to even try that.

Regan worked out a deal with Mullahs to release the hostages once he was president.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Regan worked out a deal with Mullahs to release the hostages once he was president.

ridicukous fiction

 

[Funzo Hoss]

Comments from Regan's Cabinet on the October Suprise

A Short History of Everyone Who Confirmed Reagan’s October Surprise Before the New York Times

A lot of people beyond Ben Barnes have said that Reagan’s 1980 election campaign conspired to keep American hostages in Iran.

theintercept.com

 

[Soupnazi630]

Comments from Regan's Cabinet on the October Suprise

A Short History of Everyone Who Confirmed Reagan’s October Surprise Before the New York Times

A lot of people beyond Ben Barnes have said that Reagan’s 1980 election campaign conspired to keep American hostages in Iran.

theintercept.com

It was not confirmed by anyone.

The injtercept simply repeated hearsay from people who had no first hand knowledge

Your link clearly proves that fact

 

[Lesh]

Comments from Regan's Cabinet on the October Suprise

A Short History of Everyone Who Confirmed Reagan’s October Surprise Before the New York Times

A lot of people beyond Ben Barnes have said that Reagan’s 1980 election campaign conspired to keep American hostages in Iran.

theintercept.com

Boom

 

[Soupnazi630]

Boom

Strictly second hand stories. No first hand accounts

Bigger boom

 

[BluesLegend]

I remember Carter's disaster of a rescue attempt.

 

[Lesh]

I remember Carter's disaster of a rescue attempt.

How was Carter to blame?

 

[Auld Phart]

Boom

your head explode?

that happens when you rely on hearsay evidence.

 

[Auld Phart]

How was Carter to blame?

Operation Eagle Claw - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lesh]

Strictly second hand stories. No first hand accounts

Bigger boom

Ben Barnes was not second hand

Neither was Bani Sadr

 

[Soupnazi630]

Ben Barnes was not second hand

Neither was Bani Sadr

Yes hey both were.

Neither one claimed first hand knowledge.

Barnes specifically tried to claim what was said in rooms which was not present in. By definition that is second hand.

Bani Sadr also claimed no direct involvement just hearsay knowledge

 

[Lesh]

Operation Eagle Claw - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Again… what did Carter do wrong?