Lets stop calling them terrorist attacks

[2aguy]

Not in the part with Jesus......different time periods and Christians follow the word of Jesus.....

Again...please list all of the quotes of Jesus ordering his disciples to commit murder against unbelievers........or other Christians....

We Christians are patient...we will wait while you try to find them.....

We won't have to wait very long for Islamic commands for murder though....

Hmm where could you find such a 'complete list'. Other than a thousand threads here or ten million websites.

If you need your delusions, do not go look. If you want to know reality, the answers are out there.

Yeah.....that isn't exactly telling us where Jesus ordered his followers to commit murder...is it.....

So I will keep waiting....

However.......how many passages in the Islamic text order murder....

The Quran's Verses of Violence

You mean that pillar of fire in the old testament *wasn't* Jesus? Because I'm pretty sure you're gonna run headlong into polytheism or a bunch of Christians that beg to differ.

Yeah.....again.....tell me that was Jesus......and what words did he use to command murder......waiting....

Who was it then? Another God? I'm pretty sure that the Christians believe there is only one.

So if not Jesus, who then?

What did Jesus say? What command did he give his followers to commit murder?

 

[Skylar]

Still waiting for Jesus ordering murder.....

until then...

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

So that wasn't Jesus in the Old testament? Another God then?

Nice try.....but again....Jesus....please show where he ordered his new followers of his new religion to commit murder....

So who ordered the slaughter of the Philistines? Gave rules for how to rape your slaves? Insisted on killing disrespectfuul children?

I wasn't aware that 'true Christians' were polytheists.

 

[Skylar]

Muhammed beheaded, stoned, enslaved, raped, lied and stole. Jesus did none of these things but rather preached turning the other cheek, forgiveness and love thy neighbour. Muslims must emulate Mohammed, Christians Jesus. It's not rocket science to see where the problem lies.​

So who ordered the Israelites to slaughter the Amalekites down to the 'infants in their cribs'?

God.....and the discussion of that is deeper than this....

If that was God and it wasn't Jesus....then Jesus isn't God. That's simple logic, yes?

 

[IsaacNewton]

kristians that will research the Koran all day long, but won't research the bible.

Rather telling yes?

 

[norwegen]

Hello,

Sadly, the fact that almost all terrorist attacks are Jihad attacks carried out by adherents of the Mislim faith, they are Muslim attacks. Here, we should call them what they are...Muslim attacks.

garion13a5

Then by your logic, since almost all terrorist attacks are committed by men, they are Male Attacks. Here we should call them what they are: Male Attacks.

If not, why not?

There are shahida's like the black widows, though fewer of them, so just Muslim terrorism would probably be better. I prefer Islamic terrorism.

There are, but they're quite rare. Almost all terrorists attacks are committed by men. Why then wouldn't 'Male Terrorism' be appropriate by the logic of the OP?

Because they aren't blowing people up because of their gender?

The logic of the OP didn't say a thing about motivation. But numbers:

Hello,

Considering that well over 99% of terror attacks across the planet are committed by Muslims, why don't we call them Muslim attacks?

garion13a5

Almost all terrorist attacks are commited by men. Why don't we call them 'Male Attacks'? It would certainly be consistent with the logic of the OP

99 percent of terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims.

That's motivation, you blithering idiot.

 

[Tilly]

Remember, the 10 Commandments...those the Christians follow, state that committing evil in God's name is the one sin God will not forgive.

Evil....according to who? That's the problem with a 'No True Scotsman' fallacy.

No....it is pretty well defined, especially in this thread. Committing murder is a sin, and it is evil....there is no sanction for murder coming from Jesus...can you point out where he commanded it?

So if you're fighting in a war and kill someone.....straight to hell then?

Nope......murder is taking the life of an innocent.....fighting a war is not murder....

So that shall not kill.....except.

Okay, how about self defense? Is that murder according to the 'pretty well defined' Bible?

Actually, it is thou shalt not murder.

 

[IsaacNewton]

And the entire Northern Ireland conflict was Christian terrorism. As were Timothy McVeigh, and all the abortion clinic bombings and murders, and the attack on the black church in Charleston last year...

Damn Christian terrorists.

The real reason so many in the US want to couch this as 'Muslim' is because they want to feel good about their own religion. Isis no more are 'Muslims' than Eric Rudolph is a 'Christian'.

You can call yourself anything you like. If you don't follow the faith, you are a liar that likes to kill people and use the faith to justify it. Which is something all religion has been used for for millenium.

Hello,

Sadly, the vast majority of all terror attacks are committed by Muslims in the name of Islam. We can attempt to redirect and pretend that the problem is not based in Islam by pointing to the exceptions, but this is really just pretending the problem doesn't exist.

garion13a5

At the moment, yes, most of the terrorism is committed by people 'claiming' to follow Islam.

Why does the point I made forever fly over your head? Did you not read what I said? If not, don't worry about it.

 

[2aguy]

Muhammed beheaded, stoned, enslaved, raped, lied and stole. Jesus did none of these things but rather preached turning the other cheek, forgiveness and love thy neighbour. Muslims must emulate Mohammed, Christians Jesus. It's not rocket science to see where the problem lies.​

So who ordered the Israelites to slaughter the Amalekites down to the 'infants in their cribs'?

God.....and the discussion of that is deeper than this....

If that was God and it wasn't Jesus....then Jesus isn't God. That's simple logic, yes?

Again....Christians follow the teachings of Jesus....what did Jesus say about committing murder....? You refusal to list Jesus ordering the murder of innocent people is noted....

 

[Skylar]

Then by your logic, since almost all terrorist attacks are committed by men, they are Male Attacks. Here we should call them what they are: Male Attacks.

If not, why not?

There are shahida's like the black widows, though fewer of them, so just Muslim terrorism would probably be better. I prefer Islamic terrorism.

There are, but they're quite rare. Almost all terrorists attacks are committed by men. Why then wouldn't 'Male Terrorism' be appropriate by the logic of the OP?

Because they aren't blowing people up because of their gender?

The logic of the OP didn't say a thing about motivation. But numbers:

Hello,

Considering that well over 99% of terror attacks across the planet are committed by Muslims, why don't we call them Muslim attacks?

garion13a5

Almost all terrorist attacks are commited by men. Why don't we call them 'Male Attacks'? It would certainly be consistent with the logic of the OP

99 percent of terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims.

That's motivation, you blithering idiot.

There are some pretty gruesome terrorist attacks by Christians and Hindus too.

Meaning that there were more terrorist attacks motivated by Theism than by Islam, Christianity or Hinduism. 'Theistic Terrorism' works beautifully using the OP's logic.

 

[2aguy]

Remember, the 10 Commandments...those the Christians follow, state that committing evil in God's name is the one sin God will not forgive.

Evil....according to who? That's the problem with a 'No True Scotsman' fallacy.

No....it is pretty well defined, especially in this thread. Committing murder is a sin, and it is evil....there is no sanction for murder coming from Jesus...can you point out where he commanded it?

So if you're fighting in a war and kill someone.....straight to hell then?

Nope......murder is taking the life of an innocent.....fighting a war is not murder....

So that shall not kill.....except.

Okay, how about self defense? Is that murder according to the 'pretty well defined' Bible?

As was pointed out the Commandment is Thou shalt do no murder........self defense is not murder is it?

 

[2aguy]

There are shahida's like the black widows, though fewer of them, so just Muslim terrorism would probably be better. I prefer Islamic terrorism.

There are, but they're quite rare. Almost all terrorists attacks are committed by men. Why then wouldn't 'Male Terrorism' be appropriate by the logic of the OP?

Because they aren't blowing people up because of their gender?

The logic of the OP didn't say a thing about motivation. But numbers:

Hello,

Considering that well over 99% of terror attacks across the planet are committed by Muslims, why don't we call them Muslim attacks?

garion13a5

Almost all terrorist attacks are commited by men. Why don't we call them 'Male Attacks'? It would certainly be consistent with the logic of the OP

99 percent of terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims.

That's motivation, you blithering idiot.

There are some pretty gruesome terrorist attacks by Christians and Hindus too.

Meaning that there were more terrorist attacks motivated by Theism than by Islam, Christianity or Hinduism. 'Theistic Terrorism' works beautifully using the OP's logic.

Nope.....you have failed to show how Christianity teaches it's followers to commit murder.....

In a few seconds I have shown exactly how muslims are commanded to commit murder......

You lose.....twit.

 

[Skylar]

Muhammed beheaded, stoned, enslaved, raped, lied and stole. Jesus did none of these things but rather preached turning the other cheek, forgiveness and love thy neighbour. Muslims must emulate Mohammed, Christians Jesus. It's not rocket science to see where the problem lies.​

So who ordered the Israelites to slaughter the Amalekites down to the 'infants in their cribs'?

God.....and the discussion of that is deeper than this....

If that was God and it wasn't Jesus....then Jesus isn't God. That's simple logic, yes?

Again....Christians follow the teachings of Jesus....what did Jesus say about committing murder....? You refusal to list Jesus ordering the murder of innocent people is noted....

You're arguing polytheism. That's not 'real Christianity' according to most Christians. Or you're arguing that Jesus isn't god. That's not 'real Christianity' according to most Christians.

So why would I take the opinion of a non-Christian on Christianity?

 

[Tilly]

Muhammed beheaded, stoned, enslaved, raped, lied and stole. Jesus did none of these things but rather preached turning the other cheek, forgiveness and love thy neighbour. Muslims must emulate Mohammed, Christians Jesus. It's not rocket science to see where the problem lies.​

So who ordered the Israelites to slaughter the Amalekites down to the 'infants in their cribs'?

The pre Jesus God. And where is that gods timeless exhortation to kill all non believers? Hmmmm? Do you see the problem yet?

 

[Tilly]

kristians that will research the Koran all day long, but won't research the bible.

Rather telling yes?

Why do you spell Christian with a 'k'?

 

[Skylar]

There are, but they're quite rare. Almost all terrorists attacks are committed by men. Why then wouldn't 'Male Terrorism' be appropriate by the logic of the OP?

Because they aren't blowing people up because of their gender?

The logic of the OP didn't say a thing about motivation. But numbers:

Hello,

Considering that well over 99% of terror attacks across the planet are committed by Muslims, why don't we call them Muslim attacks?

garion13a5

Almost all terrorist attacks are commited by men. Why don't we call them 'Male Attacks'? It would certainly be consistent with the logic of the OP

99 percent of terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims.

That's motivation, you blithering idiot.

There are some pretty gruesome terrorist attacks by Christians and Hindus too.

Meaning that there were more terrorist attacks motivated by Theism than by Islam, Christianity or Hinduism. 'Theistic Terrorism' works beautifully using the OP's logic.

Nope.....you have failed to show how Christianity teaches it's followers to commit murder.....

Murder.....according to who? You've already given us exceptions for the 'thou shall not kill' commandment. A caveat that neither Jesus nor the 10 commandments include.

So Christians can kill millions......and still commit no 'murder' according to your logic.

Christians aren't the only faith that carve out 'exceptions' for their own killing.

 

[garion13a5]

Wouldn't calling it Theistic terror cover it just as thoroughly? You'd get the Christians and Hindus too.

Except Christians and Hindus aren't committing terrorist acts....

So the 37 people that were killed and the 125 injured in the 2006 Malegaon bombings....that didn't happen? Neither did the 2007 Samjhauta Express bombings, their 68 dead with 50 injured, huh? The 16 dead in the
Mecca Masjid bombing are still perfectly fine? And how many did the Lord's Resistence army kill? How many were shot by militant Christian Robert Lewis Dear?

Theistic Terrorism wraps it all in a bow and meets every standard of the OP.

There is nothing in Christian teaching that tells it's followers to murder other people......not one thing.

I guess the 'Army of God' didn't get that when they bombed the 96 Olympics.

Again....what part of Christianity tells it's followers to murder innocent people....please site the biblical reference of Jesus ordering his followers to do any of those things....

'Murder' according to who? 'Innocent people' according to who? The body count of Christians historically is quite epic. Wars, forced conversions, carpet bombing, atomic weapons, the works. And they all had their theistic loopholes.

Everyone is the hero of their own story. And the Bible has plenty of slaughter to choose from. The Amalekites come to mind. Slaughtered down to the 'infants in their cribs'.

But per the people that didn't it wasn't 'murder'. Nor were they 'innocent'.

Why not 'Theistic Terrorism'? It covers a larger group that the OP acknowledges, meets all the OP"s standards, and covers motivation.

Again.....I notice you are not citing the Jesus portion of the bible.....are you.....please come back when you have a passage of Jesus ordering the murder of innocents........you know...the guy who created Christianity.....

Hello,

There are an average of 10 Muslim attacks a day around the world. Pointing to the few exceptions that aren't Muslim in disingenuous.

garion13a5

 

[norwegen]

There are, but they're quite rare. Almost all terrorists attacks are committed by men. Why then wouldn't 'Male Terrorism' be appropriate by the logic of the OP?

Because they aren't blowing people up because of their gender?

The logic of the OP didn't say a thing about motivation. But numbers:

Hello,

Considering that well over 99% of terror attacks across the planet are committed by Muslims, why don't we call them Muslim attacks?

garion13a5

Almost all terrorist attacks are commited by men. Why don't we call them 'Male Attacks'? It would certainly be consistent with the logic of the OP

99 percent of terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims.

That's motivation, you blithering idiot.

There are some pretty gruesome terrorist attacks by Christians and Hindus too.

Meaning that there were more terrorist attacks motivated by Theism than by Islam, Christianity or Hinduism. 'Theistic Terrorism' works beautifully using the OP's logic.

Nope.....you have failed to show how Christianity teaches it's followers to commit murder.....

In a few seconds I have shown exactly how muslims are commanded to commit murder......

You lose.....twit.

Terrorism and murder are not in the Christian doctrine. That's why when anyone commits such a crime in the name of Christ, liberals point and say that terrorism and murder are in the Christian doctrine.

 

[Tilly]

Muhammed beheaded, stoned, enslaved, raped, lied and stole. Jesus did none of these things but rather preached turning the other cheek, forgiveness and love thy neighbour. Muslims must emulate Mohammed, Christians Jesus. It's not rocket science to see where the problem lies.​

So who ordered the Israelites to slaughter the Amalekites down to the 'infants in their cribs'?

God.....and the discussion of that is deeper than this....

If that was God and it wasn't Jesus....then Jesus isn't God. That's simple logic, yes?

Again....Christians follow the teachings of Jesus....what did Jesus say about committing murder....? You refusal to list Jesus ordering the murder of innocent people is noted....

You're arguing polytheism. That's not 'real Christianity' according to most Christians. Or you're arguing that Jesus isn't god. That's not 'real Christianity' according to most Christians.

So why would I take the opinion of a non-Christian on Christianity?

Christians are called Christians and not Jews for a reason.

 

[Skylar]

3 Now, go and attack Amalek. Completely destroya]">[a] all that they have. Don’t spare them, but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, both ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Bible Gateway passage: 1 Samuel 15:3 - International Standard Version

Was that murder? Or did you just carve out yet another 'exception' for yourself?

 

[norwegen]

kristians that will research the Koran all day long, but won't research the bible.

Rather telling yes?

Why do you spell Christian with a 'k'?

He phailed fonix.