Liberals/conservatives, dems/reps, Your thoughts on this

[C_Clayton_Jones]

We are a constitutional republic.

Yes but it still applies. It is happening.

No, it's not.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is not mine, I read it on another site. I have read it before and agree with it. IMO, we are a couple decades from full socialism.......

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government'

'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury'

'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. From courage to liberty;

4. From liberty to abundance;

5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;

7. From apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage'

You're too pessimistic I think. so far EVERY form of government has proved temporary. I see no reason democracy will only exist until voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. Monarchs, lords, dictatorships, etc. have been giving themselves generous gifts from the public treasury since civilization began. I see democracy as a pendulum, when the pendulum swings too far in either direction it is pulled back to the center.

So when the pendulum swings far enough into a dictatorship you still call that a democracy? We need to not have the pendulum swing at all but there is too much greed everywhere.

Too much greed is an issue so you're supporting Trump? You might want to work on that.

You're getting confused. Yes I support trump but regardless who we choose we are heading to socialism and greed is the main reason. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the poor get pissed off and vote for the candidate that promises them more free stuff. The poor are increasing everyday. Hillary will put us on the fast track to socialism. Same with trump but a slowed down pace. It's coming wether you want it or not and our standard of living will suffer.

This is wrongheaded idiocy.

We are not "heading to socialism," and Clinton is not a "socialist," the notion is an inane lie.

 

[regent]

Is it possible to stop man's belief that with some changes we can live better?

 

[alang1216]

You're too pessimistic I think. so far EVERY form of government has proved temporary. I see no reason democracy will only exist until voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. Monarchs, lords, dictatorships, etc. have been giving themselves generous gifts from the public treasury since civilization began. I see democracy as a pendulum, when the pendulum swings too far in either direction it is pulled back to the center.

So when the pendulum swings far enough into a dictatorship you still call that a democracy? We need to not have the pendulum swing at all but there is too much greed everywhere.[/QUOTE]
I think in a democracy there will be a correction before dictatorship but obviously not always, especially if there is severe stress on the society.

The only way to stop the pendulum would be a ossified dictatorship (e.g., China today). Without variation society will never evolve and it will fail.