Liberals must grow the government as big aspossible to grow their power and wealth, that is the goal

[emilynghiem]

Fascist scum is all they are.

Nope miketx a lot of them are just fearful because they are ignorant.
Once they are enlightened and know the solutions, and that their opponents
are not their enemies, this changes the dynamic on both sides. Neither Trump
is a monster nor are these people, when we all agree on solutions instead of
fearing the other side is out to get us or bully us out of our rights. All fear based.
So take the fear out of the equation, get the right information and prove which
solutions work, then everyone can agree on practical steps instead of fighting, bashing and bullying.

Name calling does not help, it just makes them react worse.
so I'd cut back on that as the first step to even talk sense to each other
so we can iron out problems and forge common solutions all sides can agree on!

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

No OP its much worse. Raising taxes is unpopular with the people, Dem's can't get elected by promising tax increases. Instead Dem's are busy increasing state and federal debt as fast as possible to force tax increases. The talking point is "sorry we had to raise taxes but we have to pay our bills". This talking point is already in use in many Dem's states and you hear these scumbags using the same excuse in congress from time to time.

Alinsky’s Rules + Cloward-Piven = Obama’s Fundamental Change to Socialism

Alinsky’s Rules + Cloward-Piven = Obama’s Fundamental Change to Socialism
Posted on July 9, 2014. Tags: Debt Increase, Gun Control Remove, Religion Remove, Section 1

The only thing keeping these worthless mother fuckers at bay.....

On the one hand, some believe that the Amendment's phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms" creates an individual constitutional right for citizens of the United States. Under this "individual right theory," the United States Constitution restricts legislative bodies from prohibiting firearm possession, or at the very least, the Amendment renders prohibitory and restrictive regulation presumptively unconstitutional.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Repubs have controlled congress for years and government grows...

I know, it sucks. Those Republicans who want bigger government aren’t conservatives, they are RINO pieces of shit.

The Congress can come together this year and cut the budget by many billions of dollars and Trump will sign it.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Growing government is not exclusive to Democrats. No matter who controls the branches of government, it grows.

Oh, sure, there may be certain departments or regulations which one party may limit or get rid of while in office, but overall? It doesn't matter which party is ascendant. Government keeps getting bigger. It's one of the main reasons I would like to see more third party/independent candidates get into major offices, on the off chance they might actually try to reduce the growth of government, or even shrink it. It's probably just a pipe dream, though.

Sure there are lying RINOS.

Democrats are primarily tax and spend big government twats, and there are many Republicans are really Democrats. I agree with that.

Trump isn’t a conservative, he is a populist.

While there are Republicans who lie that they are conservative, there are no smalll government Democrats, unless you can name them.

List the small government Democrats currently in th US Congress.

Who said anything about small government Democrats? Are you incapable of having a conversation without assuming someone is defending either Democrats or Republicans? I clearly said that BOTH parties grow government.

To put it very, very generally, Democrats are tax and spend, while Republicans are cut taxes...and spend. Neither party has shown any real trend toward cutting spending.

Beyond the parties, bureaucracies seem to all have an inherent desire to grow.

When has the government not grown in the last, oh, half century or so? Whether it's constantly increasing spending and debt, or legislation like the ACA or the Patriot Act, or the thousand and one small laws that get passed, I don't remember a time where government didn't seem to be growing.

I said something about small government Democrats...are there any?

I know there are big government republicans.

It’s difficult to discuss Congress passing spending bills without talking about the 2 parties in Congress that vote on the bills.

 

[Brain357]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Repubs have controlled congress for years and government grows...

I know, it sucks. Those Republicans who want bigger government aren’t conservatives, they are RINO pieces of shit.

The Congress can come together this year and cut the budget by many billions of dollars and Trump will sign it.

Trump signed the increase in spending. He’s a rino.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Repubs have controlled congress for years and government grows...

I know, it sucks. Those Republicans who want bigger government aren’t conservatives, they are RINO pieces of shit.

The Congress can come together this year and cut the budget by many billions of dollars and Trump will sign it.

Trump signed the increase in spending. He’s a rino.

I agree. How many times do I have to say it? I have said it in this thread.

He is a populist, not a conservative.

If he signs another bullshit spending bill, I will not be happy, but it doesn’t mean I will vote for a liberal in 2020, that’s for fucking sure.

 

[Brain357]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Repubs have controlled congress for years and government grows...

I know, it sucks. Those Republicans who want bigger government aren’t conservatives, they are RINO pieces of shit.

The Congress can come together this year and cut the budget by many billions of dollars and Trump will sign it.

Trump signed the increase in spending. He’s a rino.

I agree. How many times do I have to say it? I have said it in this thread.

He is a populist, not a conservative.

If he signs another bullshit spending bill, I will not be happy, but it doesn’t mean I will vote for a liberal in 2020, that’s for fucking sure.

You sounded too hopeful they would get it together. I have no hope, they have controlled congress for years...

 

[ColonelAngus]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Repubs have controlled congress for years and government grows...

I know, it sucks. Those Republicans who want bigger government aren’t conservatives, they are RINO pieces of shit.

The Congress can come together this year and cut the budget by many billions of dollars and Trump will sign it.

Trump signed the increase in spending. He’s a rino.

I agree. How many times do I have to say it? I have said it in this thread.

He is a populist, not a conservative.

If he signs another bullshit spending bill, I will not be happy, but it doesn’t mean I will vote for a liberal in 2020, that’s for fucking sure.

You sounded too hopeful they would get it together. I have no hope, they have controlled congress for years...

That’s why they should be voted out. It has become a means to wealth and power. It’s not about serving as a representative of your constituents.

 

[Brain357]

Repubs have controlled congress for years and government grows...

I know, it sucks. Those Republicans who want bigger government aren’t conservatives, they are RINO pieces of shit.

The Congress can come together this year and cut the budget by many billions of dollars and Trump will sign it.

Trump signed the increase in spending. He’s a rino.

I agree. How many times do I have to say it? I have said it in this thread.

He is a populist, not a conservative.

If he signs another bullshit spending bill, I will not be happy, but it doesn’t mean I will vote for a liberal in 2020, that’s for fucking sure.

You sounded too hopeful they would get it together. I have no hope, they have controlled congress for years...

That’s why they should be voted out. It has become a means to wealth and power. It’s not about serving as a representative of your constituents.

You just said you wouldn’t vote against them.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I know, it sucks. Those Republicans who want bigger government aren’t conservatives, they are RINO pieces of shit.

The Congress can come together this year and cut the budget by many billions of dollars and Trump will sign it.

Trump signed the increase in spending. He’s a rino.

I agree. How many times do I have to say it? I have said it in this thread.

He is a populist, not a conservative.

If he signs another bullshit spending bill, I will not be happy, but it doesn’t mean I will vote for a liberal in 2020, that’s for fucking sure.

You sounded too hopeful they would get it together. I have no hope, they have controlled congress for years...

That’s why they should be voted out. It has become a means to wealth and power. It’s not about serving as a representative of your constituents.

You just said you wouldn’t vote against them.

Huh?

I would vote for a true conservative in the primaries.

I. Will never vote for a liberal.

You seem very confused.

 

[Montrovant]

Growing government is not exclusive to Democrats. No matter who controls the branches of government, it grows.

Oh, sure, there may be certain departments or regulations which one party may limit or get rid of while in office, but overall? It doesn't matter which party is ascendant. Government keeps getting bigger. It's one of the main reasons I would like to see more third party/independent candidates get into major offices, on the off chance they might actually try to reduce the growth of government, or even shrink it. It's probably just a pipe dream, though.

Sure there are lying RINOS.

Democrats are primarily tax and spend big government twats, and there are many Republicans are really Democrats. I agree with that.

Trump isn’t a conservative, he is a populist.

While there are Republicans who lie that they are conservative, there are no smalll government Democrats, unless you can name them.

List the small government Democrats currently in th US Congress.

Who said anything about small government Democrats? Are you incapable of having a conversation without assuming someone is defending either Democrats or Republicans? I clearly said that BOTH parties grow government.

To put it very, very generally, Democrats are tax and spend, while Republicans are cut taxes...and spend. Neither party has shown any real trend toward cutting spending.

Beyond the parties, bureaucracies seem to all have an inherent desire to grow.

When has the government not grown in the last, oh, half century or so? Whether it's constantly increasing spending and debt, or legislation like the ACA or the Patriot Act, or the thousand and one small laws that get passed, I don't remember a time where government didn't seem to be growing.

I said something about small government Democrats...are there any?

I know there are big government republicans.

It’s difficult to discuss Congress passing spending bills without talking about the 2 parties in Congress that vote on the bills.

Why ask me that? I didn't claim anything about small government Democrats. I don't know of any in Congress...nor do I know of any truly small government Republicans in Congress, except perhaps Rand Paul. Even there, I wonder just how much he truly wants to shrink government. Our Congresspeople only seem to be small government on certain issues, but perfectly happy with big and bigger government in other areas.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Growing government is not exclusive to Democrats. No matter who controls the branches of government, it grows.

Oh, sure, there may be certain departments or regulations which one party may limit or get rid of while in office, but overall? It doesn't matter which party is ascendant. Government keeps getting bigger. It's one of the main reasons I would like to see more third party/independent candidates get into major offices, on the off chance they might actually try to reduce the growth of government, or even shrink it. It's probably just a pipe dream, though.

/——/ How about a private citizen being elected president to drain the swamp. Nahhhh never happen,

 

[Montrovant]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Growing government is not exclusive to Democrats. No matter who controls the branches of government, it grows.

Oh, sure, there may be certain departments or regulations which one party may limit or get rid of while in office, but overall? It doesn't matter which party is ascendant. Government keeps getting bigger. It's one of the main reasons I would like to see more third party/independent candidates get into major offices, on the off chance they might actually try to reduce the growth of government, or even shrink it. It's probably just a pipe dream, though.

/——/ How about a private citizen being elected president to drain the swamp. Nahhhh never happen,

Trump was elected as a Republican. Nor do I see government shrinking appreciably.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Growing government is not exclusive to Democrats. No matter who controls the branches of government, it grows.

Oh, sure, there may be certain departments or regulations which one party may limit or get rid of while in office, but overall? It doesn't matter which party is ascendant. Government keeps getting bigger. It's one of the main reasons I would like to see more third party/independent candidates get into major offices, on the off chance they might actually try to reduce the growth of government, or even shrink it. It's probably just a pipe dream, though.

/——/ How about a private citizen being elected president to drain the swamp. Nahhhh never happen,

Trump was elected as a Republican. Nor do I see government shrinking appreciably.

/——/ You are an imbecile. Trump was a private citizen when elected president no matter what party he belonged to.

 

[Montrovant]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Growing government is not exclusive to Democrats. No matter who controls the branches of government, it grows.

Oh, sure, there may be certain departments or regulations which one party may limit or get rid of while in office, but overall? It doesn't matter which party is ascendant. Government keeps getting bigger. It's one of the main reasons I would like to see more third party/independent candidates get into major offices, on the off chance they might actually try to reduce the growth of government, or even shrink it. It's probably just a pipe dream, though.

/——/ How about a private citizen being elected president to drain the swamp. Nahhhh never happen,

Trump was elected as a Republican. Nor do I see government shrinking appreciably.

/——/ You are an imbecile. Trump was a private citizen when elected president no matter what party he belonged to.

A private citizen who ran as a Republican. And again, the important thing is that government does not seem to have shrunk. I don't see much 'swamp draining' going on either.

What was your point again?

 

[JWBooth]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

True enough. GOPers do it by sending other people’s children off to kill and die.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Growing government is not exclusive to Democrats. No matter who controls the branches of government, it grows.

Oh, sure, there may be certain departments or regulations which one party may limit or get rid of while in office, but overall? It doesn't matter which party is ascendant. Government keeps getting bigger. It's one of the main reasons I would like to see more third party/independent candidates get into major offices, on the off chance they might actually try to reduce the growth of government, or even shrink it. It's probably just a pipe dream, though.

/——/ How about a private citizen being elected president to drain the swamp. Nahhhh never happen,

Trump was elected as a Republican. Nor do I see government shrinking appreciably.

/——/ You are an imbecile. Trump was a private citizen when elected president no matter what party he belonged to.

A private citizen who ran as a Republican. And again, the important thing is that government does not seem to have shrunk. I don't see much 'swamp draining' going on either.

What was your point again?

/——/ Doesn’t seem???? What do you do, check the government employee list every day? Trump Administration, Reversing Trend, Sheds 11,000 Federal Employees in Six Months

 

[ColonelAngus]

Yea, so, um...back to my point that big government takes away your freedom it doesn’t give you freedom.

Regardless of the letter after the name of the people supporting the big government.

In Souh Africa, Government is currently taking land from people based on the melanin content of their skin in the name of social justice. That seems like overreach to me...just an example of government run amuck, just as was Apartheid, bad government.

Government should be leaving people alone, not fucking with them. They are supposed to be elected citizens to run the country. They have become the worlds worst condo commandos.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It’s intereting that no one denies or offers any evidence that my initial post isn’t true, they just say, “Republicans do it too!”

I appreciate the confirmation that my post was accurate.

When the next set of Republican Primaries are run in your district for House, Senate, POTUS, or any state or local office...if you are a conservative, vote for the Republican candidate who is actually a conservative.

If you want big government to run your lives, please just vote in the Democratic Primaries for the tax and spend liberals.

 

[Montrovant]

Bigger their budget, the more workers they can hire, who have a vested interest in voting Democrat so they keep their jobs.

That’s why Dems love regulations and permits and fees for every single thing. It’s a means to power.

They get power by telling you that you cannot do things. They do NOT get any power by leaving you alone.

If they can hire someone to be in charge of measuring your hedges to make sure they are not above the government determined height they will do it. Now they have to tax you to pay for the “Department of Hedge and Shrubery Compliance”. That department needs a brick and mortar office, many inspectors to cover the geography of their covered municipalities, and of course we need to process all the paperwork so we need administrators.

Now once that department is up and running, it has to grow...and if you want to get rid of hat Department, the argument is that you want all of these people to be unemployed and living on the street! You want to remove their livelihoods!

If Democrats could take every single dime that you earn and triple the size of government overnight, they would do it.

This is why I am conservative. Fuck all that nonsense. Fuck shutting down lemonade stands run by 8 year old girls because they didn’t purchase a business license from the county.

....and fuck any government oversight for Twitter and Facebook and YOUTUBE. Let them censor Alex Jones, they are private companies and can do what they want...and consumers can choose not to use them.

I don’t need the government to save me from Facebook censorship. I’m good.

Growing government is not exclusive to Democrats. No matter who controls the branches of government, it grows.

Oh, sure, there may be certain departments or regulations which one party may limit or get rid of while in office, but overall? It doesn't matter which party is ascendant. Government keeps getting bigger. It's one of the main reasons I would like to see more third party/independent candidates get into major offices, on the off chance they might actually try to reduce the growth of government, or even shrink it. It's probably just a pipe dream, though.

/——/ How about a private citizen being elected president to drain the swamp. Nahhhh never happen,

Trump was elected as a Republican. Nor do I see government shrinking appreciably.

/——/ You are an imbecile. Trump was a private citizen when elected president no matter what party he belonged to.

A private citizen who ran as a Republican. And again, the important thing is that government does not seem to have shrunk. I don't see much 'swamp draining' going on either.

What was your point again?

/——/ Doesn’t seem???? What do you do, check the government employee list every day? Trump Administration, Reversing Trend, Sheds 11,000 Federal Employees in Six Months

I don't consider the size of government to merely mean the number of government employees.