Libs playing fast and loose with COVID 19 numbers

I live in Franklin County. It is packed full of stupids fucking Trumpettes including Rob Kauffman. They can not understand the delays in reporting that has been the case in other counties & other States.


The Republicabns in the State Legislature want to pull a Geoirgia & open up businesses.


Mr. Conner has served as coroner for 19 years, and spent 12 additional years as deputy coroner in the Tremendous County of Franklin.

I think he know a little bit more about the Morgue business than you do.
 
Here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, they have been doing death-harvesting, reassigning deaths from other causes to the Wuhan Flu.

Franklin County went from no deaths to 10 overnight, even though the coroner knows nothing about them and the coroner is required to be notified. Similarly, the Mercer County coroner knows nothing about death reported here for COVID, he was never told.

blah,blahblah! The truth is all these numbers are estiamates and not very good ones because we do not have adequate testing. Quit acting like estimations are written in stone they are estimations and any one who is an adult should realize this. To pu it simply no one knows at this point what the real numbers are.
The one thing we know is that when in doubt, if there is any chance, BLAME IT ON COVID. Based on this and numerous other incidences, the safe bet is that the real number of deaths from Covid is like lt much closer to only 25,000.
it is all a fucking guess at this point. I do not like making estimates based on next to no reliable data. I think what needs to be done here is similar to what is required in the aprraisal reporting regulations. In that area you state the case for your value estimation and then there is a a reporting reqirement where you must explain the strength of your data. There were times when I would have to appraise a property in a small village where there had not been a sale in eight years. i would give a value based on best evidence and then go on to explain that the evidence basically sucks so buyer beware. That is where we are on these estimations at this point all estimates are buyer beware.
it's how they do all other deaths. why do you think you need something different here? every h1n1 death was an estimate.
I think we need some thing different because the average person does not know that these are estimations being thrown around. If we require the scientists to explain the strength in thier data estimates people will not be walking around vewing estimates as facts. Do you not think people would understand what is going on better if the scientists explained how early on we are and how much we realy do not know or is the public to big of babies to deal with it? I feel we can deal with it and I would like to be deciding my own risks and planning how to mitigate them while knowing how good the estimations are. We could avoid a lot of arguing and make better plans if we realy understood what is known. Right now people seem to be from the sky is falling to no problem here, we should be some where in between.
well they said so on TV. they said "probable" whatever the hell that even means. In other words, if someone died, it must be wuhan caused. 3700 deaths were added to NY. due to that statement.
I am sure they had some requirements to make such a determination but those requirements are changing and again based on preliminary reports it will take months to accurately determine the true cuase of the death. Hell it was not to long ago we figured out how this shit kills you. The truth is we do not know even one millionth of what we will know in a years time currently. It's just the way it is and it is realy no ones fault just the human condition at this point.Maybe with AI we become quicker and also maybe AI just decides we suck and kills us. Welcome to this thing we call life.
you're still missing the details of fact, 30 million have lost their jobs, confined to their homes, for less than .001 deaths in the country. It is my expert opinion that 30 million is greater than 30 thousand, and it's time to open up the country and let the herd immunity begin. the number of deaths was far to great staying inside. what a flop and disgusting.

Also, the gestation is 14 days, we've had it here for over 60 days, the spread is done, you should actually learn how this all works. I know the governors don't.

As of yesterday, 41,758 AMERICANS died because the asswipePINO failed to act. And you don't think that a big deal?
and 60,00 million died of the flu. so?
Got any idea the effect of man power has on an economy? Or lack there of? Now lets kill the right 60 million people and an economy could be screwed for generations. You have the right brain drian and bad things happen. The choices here flat suck.

I don't know how you get 60 million working age people croaking from a Virus that is less than 1% fatal and most who die are retirees.

But, right now, those 60 million and more aren't working at all, so they are already lost to the economy even if they are alive
I am not saying that 60 million dead happened or was not going to happen but there was a potential for it and still may be with mutation. We did not know then and do not know now the out come. When potential out comes are that bad it is human nature to try and mitiagte the effects. This is why the draconian measures were put into place. The information we had at the time was basically only transmission rate and this one was spreading way quicker than any thing before. For crists fucking sakes what I am trying to say here is we do not fucking know much right fucking now. Tell me you know what is the best decision rightnow based on the evidence supplied and I will tell you that you have little to no knowlege of risk mitigation. I will state this simply, I will wait till I have some real data to work with and make a much better extrapolation as to the effects in the future. Right now I admittingly do not know how bad this virus is or is not. Distancing till understanding seems prudent to me.


The risk of people being ruined financially, and a possible long term depression is there too, you know. And extreme poverty is also hazardous to people's health.

I'll agree that there are no perfect solutions, and that there are hazards to health in BOTH alternatives- reopening the economy and indefinite shutdown.
Lets just say this sucks for now and give the people fighting it some leeway until we know more. You know I hope we have the roring twenties like after the 1918 pandimc but I doubt it. Man kind has been thrown a curve ball and will have to adjust. i hope to see all of you on the other side of this shit. You gotta break some eggs to make an omlet. We will make mistakes along the way lets try and remember we are human and the ones in charge want a good out come to. I hope they are able to give it to us, if not we must respect the effort. We are all in this together and I hope to see you all at work and back into life as soon as possible. God bless and good luck e are all going to need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is the acceptable number for people suffering from unemployment? we're at 30 million today, what's that number? 1 million wuhan, 30 million unemployed, no money, no school, no anything. so what is the number?
What is the acceptable number of deaths?



You tell me, dave. How many deaths from suicide, drug OD's alcohol abuse, starvation and exposure that massive unemployment created by the indefinite Lockdown are acceptable to you?
 
I work for a hospital and we get notices daily of new cases and deaths. It’s funny to get a notification and then go home at night and see the local news media report numbers 20/30 cases higher.

they sure are invested in fear porn.

You should post dates and time for such. It would make you sound credible.
I might if I cared what you thought. Since I don’t...

I agree, he has no credibility, him calling anyone out is just plain ridiculous.
 
Here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, they have been doing death-harvesting, reassigning deaths from other causes to the Wuhan Flu.

Franklin County went from no deaths to 10 overnight, even though the coroner knows nothing about them and the coroner is required to be notified. Similarly, the Mercer County coroner knows nothing about death reported here for COVID, he was never told.

blah,blahblah! The truth is all these numbers are estiamates and not very good ones because we do not have adequate testing. Quit acting like estimations are written in stone they are estimations and any one who is an adult should realize this. To pu it simply no one knows at this point what the real numbers are.
The one thing we know is that when in doubt, if there is any chance, BLAME IT ON COVID. Based on this and numerous other incidences, the safe bet is that the real number of deaths from Covid is like lt much closer to only 25,000.
it is all a fucking guess at this point. I do not like making estimates based on next to no reliable data. I think what needs to be done here is similar to what is required in the aprraisal reporting regulations. In that area you state the case for your value estimation and then there is a a reporting reqirement where you must explain the strength of your data. There were times when I would have to appraise a property in a small village where there had not been a sale in eight years. i would give a value based on best evidence and then go on to explain that the evidence basically sucks so buyer beware. That is where we are on these estimations at this point all estimates are buyer beware.
it's how they do all other deaths. why do you think you need something different here? every h1n1 death was an estimate.
I think we need some thing different because the average person does not know that these are estimations being thrown around. If we require the scientists to explain the strength in thier data estimates people will not be walking around vewing estimates as facts. Do you not think people would understand what is going on better if the scientists explained how early on we are and how much we realy do not know or is the public to big of babies to deal with it? I feel we can deal with it and I would like to be deciding my own risks and planning how to mitigate them while knowing how good the estimations are. We could avoid a lot of arguing and make better plans if we realy understood what is known. Right now people seem to be from the sky is falling to no problem here, we should be some where in between.
well they said so on TV. they said "probable" whatever the hell that even means. In other words, if someone died, it must be wuhan caused. 3700 deaths were added to NY. due to that statement.
I am sure they had some requirements to make such a determination but those requirements are changing and again based on preliminary reports it will take months to accurately determine the true cuase of the death. Hell it was not to long ago we figured out how this shit kills you. The truth is we do not know even one millionth of what we will know in a years time currently. It's just the way it is and it is realy no ones fault just the human condition at this point.Maybe with AI we become quicker and also maybe AI just decides we suck and kills us. Welcome to this thing we call life.
you're still missing the details of fact, 30 million have lost their jobs, confined to their homes, for less than .001 deaths in the country. It is my expert opinion that 30 million is greater than 30 thousand, and it's time to open up the country and let the herd immunity begin. the number of deaths was far to great staying inside. what a flop and disgusting.

Also, the gestation is 14 days, we've had it here for over 60 days, the spread is done, you should actually learn how this all works. I know the governors don't.

As of yesterday, 41,758 AMERICANS died because the asswipePINO failed to act. And you don't think that a big deal?
and 60,00 million died of the flu. so?
Got any idea the effect of man power has on an economy? Or lack there of? Now lets kill the right 60 million people and an economy could be screwed for generations. You have the right brain drian and bad things happen. The choices here flat suck.

I don't know how you get 60 million working age people croaking from a Virus that is less than 1% fatal and most who die are retirees.

But, right now, those 60 million and more aren't working at all, so they are already lost to the economy even if they are alive
I am not saying that 60 million dead happened or was not going to happen but there was a potential for it and still may be with mutation. We did not know then and do not know now the out come. When potential out comes are that bad it is human nature to try and mitiagte the effects. This is why the draconian measures were put into place. The information we had at the time was basically only transmission rate and this one was spreading way quicker than any thing before. For crists fucking sakes what I am trying to say here is we do not fucking know much right fucking now. Tell me you know what is the best decision rightnow based on the evidence supplied and I will tell you that you have little to no knowlege of risk mitigation. I will state this simply, I will wait till I have some real data to work with and make a much better extrapolation as to the effects in the future. Right now I admittingly do not know how bad this virus is or is not. Distancing till understanding seems prudent to me.


The risk of people being ruined financially, and a possible long term depression is there too, you know. And extreme poverty is also hazardous to people's health.

I'll agree that there are no perfect solutions, and that there are hazards to health in BOTH alternatives- reopening the economy and indefinite shutdown.
Lets just say this sucks for now and give the people fighting it some leeway until we know more. You know I hope we have the roring twenties like after the 1918 pandimc but I doubt it. Man kind has been thrown a curve ball and will have to adjust. i hope to see all of you on the other side of this shit. You gotta break some eggs to make an omlet. We will make mistakes along the way lets try and remember we are human and the ones in charge want a good out come to. I hope they are able to give it to us, if not we must respect the effort. We are all in this together and I hope to see you all at work and back into life as soon as possible. God bless and good luck e are all going to need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is the acceptable number for people suffering from unemployment? we're at 30 million today, what's that number? 1 million wuhan, 30 million unemployed, no money, no school, no anything. so what is the number?
What is the acceptable number of deaths?



You tell me, dave. How many deaths from suicide, drug OD's alcohol abuse, starvation and exposure that massive unemployment created by the indefinite Lockdown are acceptable to you?

Not to mention the domestic abuse this is causing,
 
Here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, they have been doing death-harvesting, reassigning deaths from other causes to the Wuhan Flu.

Franklin County went from no deaths to 10 overnight, even though the coroner knows nothing about them and the coroner is required to be notified. Similarly, the Mercer County coroner knows nothing about death reported here for COVID, he was never told.

blah,blahblah! The truth is all these numbers are estiamates and not very good ones because we do not have adequate testing. Quit acting like estimations are written in stone they are estimations and any one who is an adult should realize this. To pu it simply no one knows at this point what the real numbers are.
The one thing we know is that when in doubt, if there is any chance, BLAME IT ON COVID. Based on this and numerous other incidences, the safe bet is that the real number of deaths from Covid is like lt much closer to only 25,000.
it is all a fucking guess at this point. I do not like making estimates based on next to no reliable data. I think what needs to be done here is similar to what is required in the aprraisal reporting regulations. In that area you state the case for your value estimation and then there is a a reporting reqirement where you must explain the strength of your data. There were times when I would have to appraise a property in a small village where there had not been a sale in eight years. i would give a value based on best evidence and then go on to explain that the evidence basically sucks so buyer beware. That is where we are on these estimations at this point all estimates are buyer beware.
it's how they do all other deaths. why do you think you need something different here? every h1n1 death was an estimate.
I think we need some thing different because the average person does not know that these are estimations being thrown around. If we require the scientists to explain the strength in thier data estimates people will not be walking around vewing estimates as facts. Do you not think people would understand what is going on better if the scientists explained how early on we are and how much we realy do not know or is the public to big of babies to deal with it? I feel we can deal with it and I would like to be deciding my own risks and planning how to mitigate them while knowing how good the estimations are. We could avoid a lot of arguing and make better plans if we realy understood what is known. Right now people seem to be from the sky is falling to no problem here, we should be some where in between.
well they said so on TV. they said "probable" whatever the hell that even means. In other words, if someone died, it must be wuhan caused. 3700 deaths were added to NY. due to that statement.
I am sure they had some requirements to make such a determination but those requirements are changing and again based on preliminary reports it will take months to accurately determine the true cuase of the death. Hell it was not to long ago we figured out how this shit kills you. The truth is we do not know even one millionth of what we will know in a years time currently. It's just the way it is and it is realy no ones fault just the human condition at this point.Maybe with AI we become quicker and also maybe AI just decides we suck and kills us. Welcome to this thing we call life.
you're still missing the details of fact, 30 million have lost their jobs, confined to their homes, for less than .001 deaths in the country. It is my expert opinion that 30 million is greater than 30 thousand, and it's time to open up the country and let the herd immunity begin. the number of deaths was far to great staying inside. what a flop and disgusting.

Also, the gestation is 14 days, we've had it here for over 60 days, the spread is done, you should actually learn how this all works. I know the governors don't.

As of yesterday, 41,758 AMERICANS died because the asswipePINO failed to act. And you don't think that a big deal?
and 60,00 million died of the flu. so?
Got any idea the effect of man power has on an economy? Or lack there of? Now lets kill the right 60 million people and an economy could be screwed for generations. You have the right brain drian and bad things happen. The choices here flat suck.

I don't know how you get 60 million working age people croaking from a Virus that is less than 1% fatal and most who die are retirees.

But, right now, those 60 million and more aren't working at all, so they are already lost to the economy even if they are alive
I am not saying that 60 million dead happened or was not going to happen but there was a potential for it and still may be with mutation. We did not know then and do not know now the out come. When potential out comes are that bad it is human nature to try and mitiagte the effects. This is why the draconian measures were put into place. The information we had at the time was basically only transmission rate and this one was spreading way quicker than any thing before. For crists fucking sakes what I am trying to say here is we do not fucking know much right fucking now. Tell me you know what is the best decision rightnow based on the evidence supplied and I will tell you that you have little to no knowlege of risk mitigation. I will state this simply, I will wait till I have some real data to work with and make a much better extrapolation as to the effects in the future. Right now I admittingly do not know how bad this virus is or is not. Distancing till understanding seems prudent to me.


The risk of people being ruined financially, and a possible long term depression is there too, you know. And extreme poverty is also hazardous to people's health.

I'll agree that there are no perfect solutions, and that there are hazards to health in BOTH alternatives- reopening the economy and indefinite shutdown.
Lets just say this sucks for now and give the people fighting it some leeway until we know more. You know I hope we have the roring twenties like after the 1918 pandimc but I doubt it. Man kind has been thrown a curve ball and will have to adjust. i hope to see all of you on the other side of this shit. You gotta break some eggs to make an omlet. We will make mistakes along the way lets try and remember we are human and the ones in charge want a good out come to. I hope they are able to give it to us, if not we must respect the effort. We are all in this together and I hope to see you all at work and back into life as soon as possible. God bless and good luck e are all going to need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what is the acceptable number for people suffering from unemployment? we're at 30 million today, what's that number? 1 million wuhan, 30 million unemployed, no money, no school, no anything. so what is the number?
What is the acceptable number of deaths?
anything related to the lockdown? unemployment count, length out of school for kids, number of people without food? deaths due to it? you know these are all factual data to monitor don't you? go ahead, be a big man and point that little middle finger of yours at them and say, fk you!!!!
 
I work for a hospital and we get notices daily of new cases and deaths. It’s funny to get a notification and then go home at night and see the local news media report numbers 20/30 cases higher.

they sure are invested in fear porn.

You should post dates and time for such. It would make you sound credible.
I might if I cared what you thought. Since I don’t...

I agree, he has no credibility, him calling anyone out is just plain ridiculous.
Some twitter troll who got lost no doubt. :)
 
Here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, they have been doing death-harvesting, reassigning deaths from other causes to the Wuhan Flu.

Franklin County went from no deaths to 10 overnight, even though the coroner knows nothing about them and the coroner is required to be notified. Similarly, the Mercer County coroner knows nothing about death reported here for COVID, he was never told.

blah,blahblah! The truth is all these numbers are estiamates and not very good ones because we do not have adequate testing. Quit acting like estimations are written in stone they are estimations and any one who is an adult should realize this. To pu it simply no one knows at this point what the real numbers are.
The one thing we know is that when in doubt, if there is any chance, BLAME IT ON COVID. Based on this and numerous other incidences, the safe bet is that the real number of deaths from Covid is like lt much closer to only 25,000.
it is all a fucking guess at this point. I do not like making estimates based on next to no reliable data. I think what needs to be done here is similar to what is required in the aprraisal reporting regulations. In that area you state the case for your value estimation and then there is a a reporting reqirement where you must explain the strength of your data. There were times when I would have to appraise a property in a small village where there had not been a sale in eight years. i would give a value based on best evidence and then go on to explain that the evidence basically sucks so buyer beware. That is where we are on these estimations at this point all estimates are buyer beware.
it's how they do all other deaths. why do you think you need something different here? every h1n1 death was an estimate.
I think we need some thing different because the average person does not know that these are estimations being thrown around. If we require the scientists to explain the strength in thier data estimates people will not be walking around vewing estimates as facts. Do you not think people would understand what is going on better if the scientists explained how early on we are and how much we realy do not know or is the public to big of babies to deal with it? I feel we can deal with it and I would like to be deciding my own risks and planning how to mitigate them while knowing how good the estimations are. We could avoid a lot of arguing and make better plans if we realy understood what is known. Right now people seem to be from the sky is falling to no problem here, we should be some where in between.
well they said so on TV. they said "probable" whatever the hell that even means. In other words, if someone died, it must be wuhan caused. 3700 deaths were added to NY. due to that statement.
I am sure they had some requirements to make such a determination but those requirements are changing and again based on preliminary reports it will take months to accurately determine the true cuase of the death. Hell it was not to long ago we figured out how this shit kills you. The truth is we do not know even one millionth of what we will know in a years time currently. It's just the way it is and it is realy no ones fault just the human condition at this point.Maybe with AI we become quicker and also maybe AI just decides we suck and kills us. Welcome to this thing we call life.
you're still missing the details of fact, 30 million have lost their jobs, confined to their homes, for less than .001 deaths in the country. It is my expert opinion that 30 million is greater than 30 thousand, and it's time to open up the country and let the herd immunity begin. the number of deaths was far to great staying inside. what a flop and disgusting.

Also, the gestation is 14 days, we've had it here for over 60 days, the spread is done, you should actually learn how this all works. I know the governors don't.

As of yesterday, 41,758 AMERICANS died because the asswipePINO failed to act. And you don't think that a big deal?




88,000 people croak EVERY year in America due to booze. Several times that many assume room temperature because of cigarettes. Should America shut down those industries to "save lives"? I don't think so, because a lot of people like to have an adult beverage or puff on a pell mell. Same here, let the people risk it if they want to. If you disagree, you can stay hermetically sealed inside your home with masks and cans of lysol until judgment day for all I care

88,000 people croak EVERY year in America due to booze.

So another 42,000 doesn't matter? Got it.
 
I work for a hospital and we get notices daily of new cases and deaths. It’s funny to get a notification and then go home at night and see the local news media report numbers 20/30 cases higher.

they sure are invested in fear porn.

You should post dates and time for such. It would make you sound credible.
I might if I cared what you thought. Since I don’t...
So, you're a liar.
I realize lefties think they should all be catered too. But...no...I didn’t start caring between the last time you asked and now.
You're still a liar.
 
they just said they furloughed nurses for Children's hospital in Chicago, and we have McCormick place all set up to handle its overflow. But What? 20 million dollars for that conversion and they're now furloughing? Only a leftist enjoys this kind of news and would prefer more nurses get laid off.

Aren't hospitals in Chicagoland loosing $1.2Billion/Mo.
 
they just said they furloughed nurses for Children's hospital in Chicago, and we have McCormick place all set up to handle its overflow. But What? 20 million dollars for that conversion and they're now furloughing? Only a leftist enjoys this kind of news and would prefer more nurses get laid off.

Aren't hospitals in Chicagoland loosing $1.2Billion/Mo.
yep, no one is going to them. no patients, all procedures canceled. not even wuhan flu patients.
 
I work for a hospital and we get notices daily of new cases and deaths. It’s funny to get a notification and then go home at night and see the local news media report numbers 20/30 cases higher.

they sure are invested in fear porn.

You should post dates and time for such. It would make you sound credible.
I might if I cared what you thought. Since I don’t...
So, you're a liar.
I realize lefties think they should all be catered too. But...no...I didn’t start caring between the last time you asked and now.
You're still a liar.
Don’t cry
 
There was a guy killed in an auto accident in Jacksonville about a month ago. He was t-boned on the driver's side and was dead at the scene.

However, since he had previously tested positive for Covid-19, his was reported as a Covid-19 related death...

Not that we don't believe you, could you post his name?

It was a report on the local Jax radio station (WOKV-104.5FM). I certainly don't recall the victim's name...
Your information comes from "talk radio?" That sounds credible. :icon_rolleyes:
so you don't think radio stations report news? weather? fk dude, guess what, they do!!! especially local fking news. what the fk is so wrong with you?

Your spread of misinformation somehow makes you feel better?
 
Here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, they have been doing death-harvesting, reassigning deaths from other causes to the Wuhan Flu.

Franklin County went from no deaths to 10 overnight, even though the coroner knows nothing about them and the coroner is required to be notified. Similarly, the Mercer County coroner knows nothing about death reported here for COVID, he was never told.

blah,blahblah! The truth is all these numbers are estiamates and not very good ones because we do not have adequate testing. Quit acting like estimations are written in stone they are estimations and any one who is an adult should realize this. To pu it simply no one knows at this point what the real numbers are.
The one thing we know is that when in doubt, if there is any chance, BLAME IT ON COVID. Based on this and numerous other incidences, the safe bet is that the real number of deaths from Covid is like lt much closer to only 25,000.
it is all a fucking guess at this point. I do not like making estimates based on next to no reliable data. I think what needs to be done here is similar to what is required in the aprraisal reporting regulations. In that area you state the case for your value estimation and then there is a a reporting reqirement where you must explain the strength of your data. There were times when I would have to appraise a property in a small village where there had not been a sale in eight years. i would give a value based on best evidence and then go on to explain that the evidence basically sucks so buyer beware. That is where we are on these estimations at this point all estimates are buyer beware.
it's how they do all other deaths. why do you think you need something different here? every h1n1 death was an estimate.
I think we need some thing different because the average person does not know that these are estimations being thrown around. If we require the scientists to explain the strength in thier data estimates people will not be walking around vewing estimates as facts. Do you not think people would understand what is going on better if the scientists explained how early on we are and how much we realy do not know or is the public to big of babies to deal with it? I feel we can deal with it and I would like to be deciding my own risks and planning how to mitigate them while knowing how good the estimations are. We could avoid a lot of arguing and make better plans if we realy understood what is known. Right now people seem to be from the sky is falling to no problem here, we should be some where in between.
well they said so on TV. they said "probable" whatever the hell that even means. In other words, if someone died, it must be wuhan caused. 3700 deaths were added to NY. due to that statement.
I am sure they had some requirements to make such a determination but those requirements are changing and again based on preliminary reports it will take months to accurately determine the true cuase of the death. Hell it was not to long ago we figured out how this shit kills you. The truth is we do not know even one millionth of what we will know in a years time currently. It's just the way it is and it is realy no ones fault just the human condition at this point.Maybe with AI we become quicker and also maybe AI just decides we suck and kills us. Welcome to this thing we call life.
you're still missing the details of fact, 30 million have lost their jobs, confined to their homes, for less than .001 deaths in the country. It is my expert opinion that 30 million is greater than 30 thousand, and it's time to open up the country and let the herd immunity begin. the number of deaths was far to great staying inside. what a flop and disgusting.

Also, the gestation is 14 days, we've had it here for over 60 days, the spread is done, you should actually learn how this all works. I know the governors don't.

As of yesterday, 41,758 AMERICANS died because the asswipePINO failed to act. And you don't think that a big deal?




88,000 people croak EVERY year in America due to booze. Several times that many assume room temperature because of cigarettes. Should America shut down those industries to "save lives"? I don't think so, because a lot of people like to have an adult beverage or puff on a pell mell. Same here, let the people risk it if they want to. If you disagree, you can stay hermetically sealed inside your home with masks and cans of lysol until judgment day for all I care

88,000 people croak EVERY year in America due to booze.

So another 42,000 doesn't matter? Got it.



I'm not saying that at all. Just pointing out the simple outlawing of cigarettes and liquor will save a lot more lives than keeping Americans hermetically sealed in their homes
 
they just said they furloughed nurses for Children's hospital in Chicago, and we have McCormick place all set up to handle its overflow. But What? 20 million dollars for that conversion and they're now furloughing? Only a leftist enjoys this kind of news and would prefer more nurses get laid off.

Aren't hospitals in Chicagoland loosing $1.2Billion/Mo.
yep, no one is going to them. no patients, all procedures canceled. not even wuhan flu patients.
Now you're denying there are sick people? We have this handled......right?
 
they just said they furloughed nurses for Children's hospital in Chicago, and we have McCormick place all set up to handle its overflow. But What? 20 million dollars for that conversion and they're now furloughing? Only a leftist enjoys this kind of news and would prefer more nurses get laid off.

Aren't hospitals in Chicagoland loosing $1.2Billion/Mo.
yep, no one is going to them. no patients, all procedures canceled. not even wuhan flu patients.
Now you're denying there are sick people? We have this handled......right?

There have always been sick people, and always will be.

Sure, you can say that we'll just keep the economy closed for the next 2 years, and hopefully we can get a vaccine, then everything will be back to normal.

But how about the next flu, next pestilence that is spread through the air. Do we do all this stuff again? Will America even have the money to battle this again in 2023 or 2024? I don't like the precedent of indefinite, longterm lockdowns.
 
they just said they furloughed nurses for Children's hospital in Chicago, and we have McCormick place all set up to handle its overflow. But What? 20 million dollars for that conversion and they're now furloughing? Only a leftist enjoys this kind of news and would prefer more nurses get laid off.

Aren't hospitals in Chicagoland loosing $1.2Billion/Mo.
yep, no one is going to them. no patients, all procedures canceled. not even wuhan flu patients.
Now you're denying there are sick people? We have this handled......right?
oh fk no. Just not contagious as the hoax is letting on. fk dude, get a fking brain.
 
they just said they furloughed nurses for Children's hospital in Chicago, and we have McCormick place all set up to handle its overflow. But What? 20 million dollars for that conversion and they're now furloughing? Only a leftist enjoys this kind of news and would prefer more nurses get laid off.

Aren't hospitals in Chicagoland loosing $1.2Billion/Mo.
yep, no one is going to them. no patients, all procedures canceled. not even wuhan flu patients.
Now you're denying there are sick people? We have this handled......right?

There have always been sick people, and always will be.

Sure, you can say that we'll just keep the economy closed for the next 2 years, and hopefully we can get a vaccine, then everything will be back to normal.

But how about the next flu, next pestilence that is spread through the air. Do we do all this stuff again? Will America even have the money to battle this again in 2023 or 2024? I don't like the precedent of indefinite, longterm lockdowns.
I don't like the blatant constitutional overreach.
 

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