Lions, tigers and babies....oh my? Which do you value more? State your political leanings please.

[RKMBrown]

Let's be real here. Fucking is a basic human instinct when you find someone you feel attracted to. It's all about reproduction and survival of the species from cavemen days. To claim that there is a God who insists we not fuck until we get married is utterly retarded and ignorant as all get out. I don't think that means promiscuity should be encouraged, so don't even go there bunch of piss ants. It means that your "taboo" regarding sex is ridiculous and hurts our society more than helps it. People have always had sex out of wedlock. Do you think the cavemen were concerned about being married? No?

So it's ok for you to say promiscuity should not be encouraged, but if anyone else says that, they are being preachy.

The difference is, I don't judge them as promiscuous or sinners, unlike yourself, and I don't want to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid or whatever the case may be. Let's also not forget that this is NOT an ideal world and never will be. People are going to continue doing what they think is the right thing for them to do, regardless of your beliefs.

Where did I judge "them" as promiscuous or sinners? Link pls.

You say you don't want to punish people for making mistakes, or for being young and stupid. Ok. Who does? Who do you think wants to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid. And what punishment is it that you think these people want to place on the young and stupid and or others that make these mistakes?

You say it's not an ideal world and never will be... IMO my little piece of this world is ideal. What I don't like is folks trying to reach into my little corner of this world and force me to do things I don't want to do like pay for their abortions, or pay for them to sit at home and bitch about me not not being happy to give them my income that I worked for.

 

[2aguy]

The only person who should ever "preach" to anyone else about sins should be one without any sin, and we all know that there is no such being exists. If you choose to live your life according to the word of some men written in some book thousands of years ago when men were pretty ignorant about the ways of the world around them, then by all means. I don't have a problem with that, but don't go around judging those who are just as "imperfect" as you are. You don't have room to talk.

Uhmmm hello!! You're the one preaching.

No, telling you not to judge other people who may or may not follow your belief system is not preaching. Preaching is what you do when you expect and in fact would probably force others to live by your religious beliefs. Unfortunately for you, a lot of people do not follow your way of life.

Ok. By preach, I meant when you were denigrating "most conservatives." I see the denegration of nearly an entire group as being hypocrits with regard to whatever beliefs that nearly entire group may has as being preachy to nearly the entire group.

As for the guy who was trying to impart wisdom.. yeah ok maybe that was a bit preachy. But I don't think he was forcing you to do anything.

I am interested in that though.. A lot of people use the word "force" when there is no force involved.. then ignore "force" when it is involved. For example, he was just telling you his opinon. There was no force there. However, regarding your preference for income redistribution, there is actual force there. Just saying.

Oh well. I'm just speaking from my own experiences on this particular forum. Helping the poor with OUR tax money is helping people. Forcing women to carry babies they don't want is not helping anyone. Just saying.

Forcing people to help others through forced income redistribution is not charity, it's forced income redistribution. You can call it helping people but there is no way to get around the fact that you are punishing peter to help paul. You are cutting out a pound of flesh from peter to give paul something to eat. It's forced income redistribution. It's a form of slavery.

Forcing women to carry a baby to term is not helping anyone? What about the baby? It does not help the baby? Just saying

Al Capone used to do it....back then it wasn't called "income redistribution" it was called stealing...and he used to sponsor soup kitchens for the poor with the "redistributed income...."

 

[ChrisL]

Let's be real here. Fucking is a basic human instinct when you find someone you feel attracted to. It's all about reproduction and survival of the species from cavemen days. To claim that there is a God who insists we not fuck until we get married is utterly retarded and ignorant as all get out. I don't think that means promiscuity should be encouraged, so don't even go there bunch of piss ants. It means that your "taboo" regarding sex is ridiculous and hurts our society more than helps it. People have always had sex out of wedlock. Do you think the cavemen were concerned about being married? No?

So it's ok for you to say promiscuity should not be encouraged, but if anyone else says that, they are being preachy.

The difference is, I don't judge them as promiscuous or sinners, unlike yourself, and I don't want to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid or whatever the case may be. Let's also not forget that this is NOT an ideal world and never will be. People are going to continue doing what they think is the right thing for them to do, regardless of your beliefs.

Where did I judge "them" as promiscuous or sinners? Link pls.

You say you don't want to punish people for making mistakes, or for being young and stupid. Ok. Who does? Who do you think wants to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid. And what punishment is it that you think these people want to place on the young and stupid and or others that make these mistakes?

You say it's not an ideal world and never will be... IMO my little piece of this world is ideal. What I don't like is folks trying to reach into my little corner of this world and force me to do things I don't want to do like pay for their abortions, or pay for them to sit at home and bitch about me not not being happy to give them my income that I worked for.

Maybe you need to get around this forum and read a little more.

 

[RKMBrown]

Imagine yourself being a woman who perhaps already has a couple of kids from another relationship or something, gets pregnant and does not want to and cannot afford to go through with the pregnancy and delivery and raising of another child. Do you think she is going to take YOUR opinions into consideration and put her life and well being, as well as the well being of her already alive family on the back burner for your religious views about her decisions?

No, of course not.

 

[RKMBrown]

Let's be real here. Fucking is a basic human instinct when you find someone you feel attracted to. It's all about reproduction and survival of the species from cavemen days. To claim that there is a God who insists we not fuck until we get married is utterly retarded and ignorant as all get out. I don't think that means promiscuity should be encouraged, so don't even go there bunch of piss ants. It means that your "taboo" regarding sex is ridiculous and hurts our society more than helps it. People have always had sex out of wedlock. Do you think the cavemen were concerned about being married? No?

So it's ok for you to say promiscuity should not be encouraged, but if anyone else says that, they are being preachy.

The difference is, I don't judge them as promiscuous or sinners, unlike yourself, and I don't want to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid or whatever the case may be. Let's also not forget that this is NOT an ideal world and never will be. People are going to continue doing what they think is the right thing for them to do, regardless of your beliefs.

Where did I judge "them" as promiscuous or sinners? Link pls.

You say you don't want to punish people for making mistakes, or for being young and stupid. Ok. Who does? Who do you think wants to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid. And what punishment is it that you think these people want to place on the young and stupid and or others that make these mistakes?

You say it's not an ideal world and never will be... IMO my little piece of this world is ideal. What I don't like is folks trying to reach into my little corner of this world and force me to do things I don't want to do like pay for their abortions, or pay for them to sit at home and bitch about me not not being happy to give them my income that I worked for.

Maybe you need to get around this forum and read a little more.

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

 

[ChrisL]

Let's be real here. Fucking is a basic human instinct when you find someone you feel attracted to. It's all about reproduction and survival of the species from cavemen days. To claim that there is a God who insists we not fuck until we get married is utterly retarded and ignorant as all get out. I don't think that means promiscuity should be encouraged, so don't even go there bunch of piss ants. It means that your "taboo" regarding sex is ridiculous and hurts our society more than helps it. People have always had sex out of wedlock. Do you think the cavemen were concerned about being married? No?

So it's ok for you to say promiscuity should not be encouraged, but if anyone else says that, they are being preachy.

The difference is, I don't judge them as promiscuous or sinners, unlike yourself, and I don't want to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid or whatever the case may be. Let's also not forget that this is NOT an ideal world and never will be. People are going to continue doing what they think is the right thing for them to do, regardless of your beliefs.

Where did I judge "them" as promiscuous or sinners? Link pls.

You say you don't want to punish people for making mistakes, or for being young and stupid. Ok. Who does? Who do you think wants to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid. And what punishment is it that you think these people want to place on the young and stupid and or others that make these mistakes?

You say it's not an ideal world and never will be... IMO my little piece of this world is ideal. What I don't like is folks trying to reach into my little corner of this world and force me to do things I don't want to do like pay for their abortions, or pay for them to sit at home and bitch about me not not being happy to give them my income that I worked for.

Maybe you need to get around this forum and read a little more.

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

Oh Geez! This is just hyperbole at it's finest and a whine fest. Instead of complaining about helping other people in your own country and making your country a stronger and better place to live, why don't you concentrate on the BILLIONS of dollars we send to other countries every year that hate our guts? Hmm? How about that? Think of what we could do at home with that money. What about the HUGE tax breaks and exemptions that huge rich corporations get? Nope, you'd rather complain that some single woman with child/children gets a few hundred bucks a week on which to live because she has limited choices.

 

[RKMBrown]

So it's ok for you to say promiscuity should not be encouraged, but if anyone else says that, they are being preachy.

The difference is, I don't judge them as promiscuous or sinners, unlike yourself, and I don't want to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid or whatever the case may be. Let's also not forget that this is NOT an ideal world and never will be. People are going to continue doing what they think is the right thing for them to do, regardless of your beliefs.

Where did I judge "them" as promiscuous or sinners? Link pls.

You say you don't want to punish people for making mistakes, or for being young and stupid. Ok. Who does? Who do you think wants to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid. And what punishment is it that you think these people want to place on the young and stupid and or others that make these mistakes?

You say it's not an ideal world and never will be... IMO my little piece of this world is ideal. What I don't like is folks trying to reach into my little corner of this world and force me to do things I don't want to do like pay for their abortions, or pay for them to sit at home and bitch about me not not being happy to give them my income that I worked for.

Maybe you need to get around this forum and read a little more.

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

Oh Geez! This is just hyperbole at it's finest and a whine fest. Instead of complaining about helping other people in your own country and making your country a stronger and better place to live, why don't you concentrate on the BILLIONS of dollars we send to other countries every year that hate our guts? Hmm? How about that? Think of what we could do at home with that money. What about the HUGE tax breaks and exemptions that huge rich corporations get? Nope, you'd rather complain that some single woman with child/children gets a few hundred bucks a week on which to live because she has limited choices.

Why are you trying to deflect from one wrong act to another wrong act? Guilt? Are you saying it's ok for you to be the beneficiary of forced income redistribution because our government also screws me over by sending a different portion of my paycheck to countries that hate us?

Redistributing my income by force to you is helping this country? You don't think much of yourself do you?

What makes you think other wrongs that are done to me makes the wrong that you benefit from that is done to me ok?

You assume I'm against charity because I'm against forced income redistribution. What is wrong with you that you can't discern the difference? Guilt?

 

[ChrisL]

The difference is, I don't judge them as promiscuous or sinners, unlike yourself, and I don't want to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid or whatever the case may be. Let's also not forget that this is NOT an ideal world and never will be. People are going to continue doing what they think is the right thing for them to do, regardless of your beliefs.

Where did I judge "them" as promiscuous or sinners? Link pls.

You say you don't want to punish people for making mistakes, or for being young and stupid. Ok. Who does? Who do you think wants to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid. And what punishment is it that you think these people want to place on the young and stupid and or others that make these mistakes?

You say it's not an ideal world and never will be... IMO my little piece of this world is ideal. What I don't like is folks trying to reach into my little corner of this world and force me to do things I don't want to do like pay for their abortions, or pay for them to sit at home and bitch about me not not being happy to give them my income that I worked for.

Maybe you need to get around this forum and read a little more.

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

Oh Geez! This is just hyperbole at it's finest and a whine fest. Instead of complaining about helping other people in your own country and making your country a stronger and better place to live, why don't you concentrate on the BILLIONS of dollars we send to other countries every year that hate our guts? Hmm? How about that? Think of what we could do at home with that money. What about the HUGE tax breaks and exemptions that huge rich corporations get? Nope, you'd rather complain that some single woman with child/children gets a few hundred bucks a week on which to live because she has limited choices.

Why are you trying to deflect from owe wrong act to another wrong act? Are you saying it's ok for you to be the benificiary of forced income redistribution because our government also screws me over by sending a different portion of my paycheck to countries that hate us?

Redistributing my income by force to you is helping this country? You don't think much of yourself do you?

What makes you think other wrongs that are done to me makes the wrong that you benefit from that is done to me ok?

Yes it does help our country. Poverty is not good for a country. Anyone knows that much. No, charity does not get enough to help all of the people that need help. That's all there is to it.

 

[RKMBrown]

Where did I judge "them" as promiscuous or sinners? Link pls.

You say you don't want to punish people for making mistakes, or for being young and stupid. Ok. Who does? Who do you think wants to punish people for making mistakes or for being young and stupid. And what punishment is it that you think these people want to place on the young and stupid and or others that make these mistakes?

You say it's not an ideal world and never will be... IMO my little piece of this world is ideal. What I don't like is folks trying to reach into my little corner of this world and force me to do things I don't want to do like pay for their abortions, or pay for them to sit at home and bitch about me not not being happy to give them my income that I worked for.

Maybe you need to get around this forum and read a little more.

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

Oh Geez! This is just hyperbole at it's finest and a whine fest. Instead of complaining about helping other people in your own country and making your country a stronger and better place to live, why don't you concentrate on the BILLIONS of dollars we send to other countries every year that hate our guts? Hmm? How about that? Think of what we could do at home with that money. What about the HUGE tax breaks and exemptions that huge rich corporations get? Nope, you'd rather complain that some single woman with child/children gets a few hundred bucks a week on which to live because she has limited choices.

Why are you trying to deflect from owe wrong act to another wrong act? Are you saying it's ok for you to be the benificiary of forced income redistribution because our government also screws me over by sending a different portion of my paycheck to countries that hate us?

Redistributing my income by force to you is helping this country? You don't think much of yourself do you?

What makes you think other wrongs that are done to me makes the wrong that you benefit from that is done to me ok?

Yes it does help our country. Poverty is not good for a country. Anyone knows that much. No, charity does not get enough to help all of the people that need help. That's all there is to it.

What makes you think forced income redistribution in the form of hand-outs will pull people out of poverty? There is no amount of money that could make a hand-out system bring people out of poverty. That is because hand-out systems encourage poverty. Hell, our hand-out system encourages generational poverty. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows hand-ups work better than hand-outs. Everyone with an ounce of common sense knows redistributing from success to failure is a waste of resources.

Charity and hand-up systems work and work very well. Receiving monthly checks from government agency in DC. ROFL you think that check is gonna lift you out of poverty?

You want to get out of poverty? Learn a skill and use it to earn some money vs. selling your misery as an excuse for a hand-out check.

 

[ChrisL]

Maybe you need to get around this forum and read a little more.

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

Oh Geez! This is just hyperbole at it's finest and a whine fest. Instead of complaining about helping other people in your own country and making your country a stronger and better place to live, why don't you concentrate on the BILLIONS of dollars we send to other countries every year that hate our guts? Hmm? How about that? Think of what we could do at home with that money. What about the HUGE tax breaks and exemptions that huge rich corporations get? Nope, you'd rather complain that some single woman with child/children gets a few hundred bucks a week on which to live because she has limited choices.

Why are you trying to deflect from owe wrong act to another wrong act? Are you saying it's ok for you to be the benificiary of forced income redistribution because our government also screws me over by sending a different portion of my paycheck to countries that hate us?

Redistributing my income by force to you is helping this country? You don't think much of yourself do you?

What makes you think other wrongs that are done to me makes the wrong that you benefit from that is done to me ok?

Yes it does help our country. Poverty is not good for a country. Anyone knows that much. No, charity does not get enough to help all of the people that need help. That's all there is to it.

What makes you think forced income redistribution in the form of hand-outs will pull people out of poverty? There is no amount of money that could make a hand-out system bring people out of poverty. That is because hand-out systems encourage poverty. Hell, our hand-out system encourages generational poverty. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows hand-ups work better than hand-outs. Everyone with an ounce of common sense knows redistributing from success to failure is a waste of resources.

Charity and hand-up systems work and work very well. Receiving monthly checks from government agency in DC. ROFL you think that check is gonna lift you out of poverty?

You want to get out of poverty? Learn a skill and use it to earn some money vs. selling your misery as an excuse for a hand-out check.

It not about pulling them out of poverty. It is about helping your fellow people who need help and not letting them starve or die due to lack of medical care, etc. No charity does not receive enough donations to help all the poor people in our country. That is beyond silly to even imagine that to be the case.

 

[ChrisL]

Maybe you need to get around this forum and read a little more.

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

Oh Geez! This is just hyperbole at it's finest and a whine fest. Instead of complaining about helping other people in your own country and making your country a stronger and better place to live, why don't you concentrate on the BILLIONS of dollars we send to other countries every year that hate our guts? Hmm? How about that? Think of what we could do at home with that money. What about the HUGE tax breaks and exemptions that huge rich corporations get? Nope, you'd rather complain that some single woman with child/children gets a few hundred bucks a week on which to live because she has limited choices.

Why are you trying to deflect from owe wrong act to another wrong act? Are you saying it's ok for you to be the benificiary of forced income redistribution because our government also screws me over by sending a different portion of my paycheck to countries that hate us?

Redistributing my income by force to you is helping this country? You don't think much of yourself do you?

What makes you think other wrongs that are done to me makes the wrong that you benefit from that is done to me ok?

Yes it does help our country. Poverty is not good for a country. Anyone knows that much. No, charity does not get enough to help all of the people that need help. That's all there is to it.

What makes you think forced income redistribution in the form of hand-outs will pull people out of poverty? There is no amount of money that could make a hand-out system bring people out of poverty. That is because hand-out systems encourage poverty. Hell, our hand-out system encourages generational poverty. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows hand-ups work better than hand-outs. Everyone with an ounce of common sense knows redistributing from success to failure is a waste of resources.

Charity and hand-up systems work and work very well. Receiving monthly checks from government agency in DC. ROFL you think that check is gonna lift you out of poverty?

You want to get out of poverty? Learn a skill and use it to earn some money vs. selling your misery as an excuse for a hand-out check.

Come out of your fantasy land and join us here in the REAL world.

 

[Ravi]

This is cool, outside the guys office:

 

[Gracie]

This is cool, outside the guys office:

That guy is fucked. Big time. Without vaseline. In short...its burnin'.
Not enough in my opinion. 40 hours equals 40 years to me. I hope he continues to be reamed. Preferably in a zimbabwe jail for poaching.

 

[Ravi]

This is cool, outside the guys office:

That guy is fucked. Big time. Without vaseline. In short...its burnin'.
Not enough in my opinion. 40 hours equals 40 years to me. I hope he continues to be reamed. Preferably in a zimbabwe jail for poaching.

Yeah, I just mistyped that he let the lion suffer for fourteen hours, then I realized it was 40 hours, that's almost two whole days. What a putz.

 

[RKMBrown]

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

Oh Geez! This is just hyperbole at it's finest and a whine fest. Instead of complaining about helping other people in your own country and making your country a stronger and better place to live, why don't you concentrate on the BILLIONS of dollars we send to other countries every year that hate our guts? Hmm? How about that? Think of what we could do at home with that money. What about the HUGE tax breaks and exemptions that huge rich corporations get? Nope, you'd rather complain that some single woman with child/children gets a few hundred bucks a week on which to live because she has limited choices.

Why are you trying to deflect from owe wrong act to another wrong act? Are you saying it's ok for you to be the benificiary of forced income redistribution because our government also screws me over by sending a different portion of my paycheck to countries that hate us?

Redistributing my income by force to you is helping this country? You don't think much of yourself do you?

What makes you think other wrongs that are done to me makes the wrong that you benefit from that is done to me ok?

Yes it does help our country. Poverty is not good for a country. Anyone knows that much. No, charity does not get enough to help all of the people that need help. That's all there is to it.

What makes you think forced income redistribution in the form of hand-outs will pull people out of poverty? There is no amount of money that could make a hand-out system bring people out of poverty. That is because hand-out systems encourage poverty. Hell, our hand-out system encourages generational poverty. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows hand-ups work better than hand-outs. Everyone with an ounce of common sense knows redistributing from success to failure is a waste of resources.

Charity and hand-up systems work and work very well. Receiving monthly checks from government agency in DC. ROFL you think that check is gonna lift you out of poverty?

You want to get out of poverty? Learn a skill and use it to earn some money vs. selling your misery as an excuse for a hand-out check.

It not about pulling them out of poverty. It is about helping your fellow people who need help and not letting them starve or die due to lack of medical care, etc. No charity does not receive enough donations to help all the poor people in our country. That is beyond silly to even imagine that to be the case.

And how does STEALING MY MONEY THAT I WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE WISELY SPENT ON A HAND UP TO USE AS A HAND OUT gonna help my fellow people? Why do you think you know better how to spend my income than I do? Are you an absolute moron? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD A THING ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF CHARITIES IN THIS COUNTRY? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD ABOUT FREE CLINICS AND PRO-BONO WORK DONE BY CHARITABLE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY? HAVE YOU NEVER GIVEN A SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY A HELPING HAND? ARE YOU COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF DOING ANYTHING ON YOUR OWN? WHY DO YOU NEED GOVERNMENT TO HOLD YOUR HAND WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

 

[RKMBrown]

But you point at me "specifically." Am I a christian? Yes. Am I a conservative? Yes. Do I sin and curse and such? Yes, often. Do I expect forgiveness? No. Do I regret my sins, yes. Does it stop me from screwing up again... sometimes. Do I pay my taxes? Yes. Do I pay them without complaint? No. I gladly pay for police, fire, rescue, defense, and other necessary functions of government. I do not feel it is right to make the government our church and pay it tithes so that it can turn around and take care of the needy. IMO charities are the correct organizations for charity. IMO using arms to take my income for income redistribution to the poor and the rich is every bit as bad as walking into my home pointing a gun at my face and taking money that I have put aside for my children, my grand parents, my injured cousin that needs a heart transplant etc. It is a vile affront to civilization that people who claim to be civilized are reduced to hiding behind government force to force their neighbors to pay for their so called benefits.

Oh Geez! This is just hyperbole at it's finest and a whine fest. Instead of complaining about helping other people in your own country and making your country a stronger and better place to live, why don't you concentrate on the BILLIONS of dollars we send to other countries every year that hate our guts? Hmm? How about that? Think of what we could do at home with that money. What about the HUGE tax breaks and exemptions that huge rich corporations get? Nope, you'd rather complain that some single woman with child/children gets a few hundred bucks a week on which to live because she has limited choices.

Why are you trying to deflect from owe wrong act to another wrong act? Are you saying it's ok for you to be the benificiary of forced income redistribution because our government also screws me over by sending a different portion of my paycheck to countries that hate us?

Redistributing my income by force to you is helping this country? You don't think much of yourself do you?

What makes you think other wrongs that are done to me makes the wrong that you benefit from that is done to me ok?

Yes it does help our country. Poverty is not good for a country. Anyone knows that much. No, charity does not get enough to help all of the people that need help. That's all there is to it.

What makes you think forced income redistribution in the form of hand-outs will pull people out of poverty? There is no amount of money that could make a hand-out system bring people out of poverty. That is because hand-out systems encourage poverty. Hell, our hand-out system encourages generational poverty. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows hand-ups work better than hand-outs. Everyone with an ounce of common sense knows redistributing from success to failure is a waste of resources.

Charity and hand-up systems work and work very well. Receiving monthly checks from government agency in DC. ROFL you think that check is gonna lift you out of poverty?

You want to get out of poverty? Learn a skill and use it to earn some money vs. selling your misery as an excuse for a hand-out check.

Come out of your fantasy land and join us here in the REAL world.

You live in hell... why would I want to join you?

 

[boedicca]

In a truly Civilized Society, this would not even be an issue. Human life would always take priority over animal life.

 

[RKMBrown]

In a truly Civilized Society, this would not even be an issue. Human life would always take priority over animal life.

In a truly civilized society people like you that make up strawmen about there being a choice between humans or animals would be completely ignored.

 

[Ravi]

In a truly Civilized Society, this would not even be an issue. Human life would always take priority over animal life.

What is civilized about hunting a pet?

 

[boedicca]

In a truly Civilized Society, this would not even be an issue. Human life would always take priority over animal life.

In a truly civilized society people like you that make up strawmen about there being a choice between humans or animals would be completely ignored.

In a Civilized Society, the government would protect you and the public from your insanity by putting you in a humane mental institution. That way, you wouldn't be able to organize mobs to murder hunters.