Listen to the exact words in the exact books Democrats want in our public school libraries

[hadit]

I'm not arguing whether God allowed him to sacrifice his son. I'm arguing that his willingness to sacrifice his son was a good thing in God's eyes and from the perspective of the Bible. Care to address my actual point instead of your strawman?

Did you forget that God had first promised him that through his son he would have more offspring than the number of stars he could count? He knew that God was faithful to His promise and believed that, no matter what, his son would live on and produce many children. You see, you have to read the whole story to understand what's going on.

Is strawmaning all you can do? Please don't try to fantasize about what how you imagine I'd respond to something. That's not real. It's just your literal fantasy.

I'm merely pointing out how most, if not all, Bibliophobes operate, and thus far, you're doing it.

 

[hadit]

It's not. If you read it in context and think porn then you're a stunted Bingo. Facts.

Likewise, if anyone reads the Bible and thinks pornography, they're, how'd you say it, "a stunted Bingo".

 

[Curried Goats]

Did you forget that God had first promised him that through his son he would have more offspring than the number of stars he could count? He knew that God was faithful to His promise and believed that, no matter what, his son would live on and produce many children. You see, you have to read the whole story to understand what's going on.

I'm merely pointing out how most, if not all, Bibliophobes operate, and thus far, you're doing it.

Yeah.... that's my point. Thanks for illustrating it. The Bible acts like having faith that stabbing your son because God told you it will all work out is a good thing.

 

[Curried Goats]

Likewise, if anyone reads the Bible and thinks pornography, they're, how'd you say it, "a stunted Bingo".

I was being facetious. You clowns are saying it for real.

 

[hadit]

Yeah.... that's my point. Thanks for illustrating it. The Bible acts like having faith that stabbing your son because God told you it will all work out is a good thing.

Be sure to let us know when God asks you to do it. The point remains, however, that the Bible clearly condemns murder, not glorifies it. In this one case, God asked Abraham to sacrifice the one thing that he had wanted his entire life, and he was willing to give up his own son, but God did not want murder to happen, that's the bottom line.

 

[MinTrut]

God rewards the guy who blindly agreed to murder his own son by making him the seed of the Israelites in the first fucking book of the Bible my guy. Have you ever read the fucking thing?

VERY disturbing stuff; NOT for kids.

 

[MinTrut]

Bingo is my word for ignorant bigots.

Oh now you've done it.

A certain poster will be scurrying off (possibly on all fours) to retrieve her Snoopy-shaped Steely Dan from that box under the bed.



But yeah - conservatives are deranged on the subject of books.

 

[MinTrut]

Of course, I read it, several times. It's one of the most well-known stories in the Bible, after all. He did not kill his son, so If no murder occurred, how does it glorify murder?

Torture, Einstein.

Where did you earn your Doctor of Divinity degree again...?

Got anything else?

See this very thread for more details.

Here's a hint for you. In this exercise where I demolish your arguments, I'm going to see how long you insist on referencing the Old Testament while ignoring the New. Most, if not all, Bibliophobes do.

Speaking of torture.

But of course Jesus wasn't a child, so his brutal torture and murder are totes approved by the Homophobic Bible Humpers of America for children of all ages.

 

[MinTrut]

Your Mom told you that, didn't she?

I don't think we're supposed to mention people's moms & such.

 

[MinTrut]

You are the one claiming that the Bible has the same detail as this book. Now prove it. Yeah, you can’t. You lost.

See this VERY thread for just SOME of the replulsive details.

But yeah, you can't. You've lost.

Then why not just hand kids some porn magazines and let them watch some XXX videos of sex between two consenting adults? We can then have a purple-haired, heavily tattooed, gender neutral teacher provide the valuable context to the encounters they witness. We can start as early as kindergarten so they will experts in all the areas by the time they are 10. Again, no boundaries are needed in your bubble.

^ More extreme delusion, packed with straw.

No, just the natural progression of you illogical conclusions. 30 years ago most people would be appalled by even suggesting something like this being in a school library. 30 years from now, with people like you in charge, there would be absolutely nothing wrong with marrying or have sex with your pet goat. Progressivism has no boundaries.

Goats?

6/...

My dogs have nothing to worry about. The poor animals owned by people on your side of the aisle are on borrowed time.

I'm glad for the dogs, but worried about the goats now.

 

[MinTrut]

Likewise, if anyone reads the Bible and thinks pornography, they're, how'd you say it, "a stunted Bingo".

^ Straw man.

 

[Curried Goats]

Be sure to let us know when God asks you to do it. The point remains, however, that the Bible clearly condemns murder, not glorifies it. In this one case, God asked Abraham to sacrifice the one thing that he had wanted his entire life, and he was willing to give up his own son, but God did not want murder to happen, that's the bottom line.

Is it murder when God commands you? In the Bible that's simply called "faith". Murder is what humans do. God had no problem slaughtering first borns wholesale.

 

[MinTrut]

Is it murder when God commands you? In the Bible that's simply called "faith". Murder is what humans do. God had no problem slaughtering first borns wholesale.

The Bible is full of child murder; in this case, wholesale slaughter.

Bible clutchers LOVE that stuff.

 

[Dragonlady]

There is no hope for our country’s future if the majority of citizens are like you and MinTrut. It is hard to argue with someone with such a questionable moral compass.

There is no hope for your country's future if intolerant assholes like you are allowed to foist your ignorance and stupidity on others.

This thread has over 1000 responses and that's insane. Republicans are concerned about children reading books. How insane is that.

Then there is the notion that those on the left have "no moral compass". That's really rich considering that you're voting for a convicted rapist, who has also been convicted of lying, evading taxes, and has also been indicted for 91 felonies.

Anyone who has voted for Donald Trump has absolutely no business lecturing anyone about their "moral compass" because Trump voters have no morality whatsoever.

 

[Frankenstein]

Envy/homophobia/severe mental illness drive conservative hysteria here; the Bible's glorification of child rape/torture/murder is something conservatives love.

Sure sure, you are just another hypocrite trying to find a way around joes racism by changing the subject.

 

[marvin martian]

Porn in school libraries is a deranged conservative delusion.

Did you watch the video in the OP?

What would you call that?

 

[Frankenstein]

The Bible is full of child murder; in this case, wholesale slaughter.

Bible clutchers LOVE that stuff.

Thing is the democrats are much like the Caananites

Before we look at the reasons given in Scripture for the commands to exterminate certain groups of people, it’s important to realize that the Israelites were not given free rein to slaughter everyone they met. Consider the following:

• The standard procedure for battling a city was to first extend terms of peace (Deuteronomy 20:10). If the terms were accepted, the people of that city lived and became subservient to Israel (verse 11). If the terms were rejected, the city was besieged and the men were killed, but the women and children were spared (verses 12–14). Attacking a city within Canaan called for different rules and represented an exception to this standard.

• God did not sanction all of the wars recorded in the Old Testament. The battles that were part of the conquest of Canaan were intended for a particular time and limited to a particular people group. The conquest of Canaan had clear limits, geographically and historically.

• The wars sanctioned by God beyond the time of Joshua were defensive in nature. A number of the battles that Israel fought on the way to and within Canaan were also defensive in nature (Exodus 17:8; Numbers 21:21 –32; Deuteronomy 2:26 –37; Joshua 10:4).

Here are the reasons Scripture gives for commanding ancient Israel to annihilate certain people groups:

1. To judge the Canaanites for their abominations. The Canaanites were a brutal and wicked culture that frequently engaged in incredibly decadent behavior. Leviticus 18 provides a list of sins that Israel was to avoid at all costs: incest, child sacrifice, homosexuality, and bestiality. All these sins were practiced by the people of Canaan: “This is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. . . . All these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled” (Leviticus 18:24–27).

In ordering the destruction of the Canaanites, God enacted a form of corporate capital punishment on a people that had been deserving of God’s judgment for some time. God had given the Canaanite people over 400 years to repent (Genesis 15:13–16). Then came judgment day. God could have used any means to destroy the Canaanites, but He chose to use the Israelites as the instrument of judgment. This method not only rid the world of an evil and deeply depraved society, but it also provided a ready-made home for God’s chosen people, the Hebrews.

The Canaanites knew what was coming and had heard of God’s awesome power (Joshua 2:10–11; 9:9). Such awareness should have prompted their repentance, but they remained resistant to God. The Canaanite Rahab was saved, and so was her family, and they are proof that the Canaanites could have avoided destruction if they had repented (Joshua 2). No person had to die. God’s desire is that the wicked turn from their sin rather than perish (Ezekiel 18:31–32; 33:11).

2. To stave off idolatry and compromise. In Deuteronomy 20, immediately after God commanded that the Canaanites be completely wiped out, God gave the reason: “Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God” (Deuteronomy 20:18). The reason for the extermination was to prevent religious compromise and spiritual adultery: if the Israelites left survivors, the sin of idolatry would follow.

The Israelites failed in their mission and left many Canaanites alive (Joshua 16:10; 17:12–13; Judges 1:29). Exactly what God said would happen occurred. Israel compromised with Canaanite culture and fell into idolatry time and again (Judges 2:1–3; 1 Kings 11:5; 14:24; 2 Kings 16:3–4). God’s order to exterminate the Canaanites was meant to guard His relationship with His people.

3. To prevent future problems. God knows the future. God knew what the results would be if Israel did not completely eradicate their enemies. The Amalekites were not Canaanites, but they attacked Israel several times and forged alliances with the Canaanites (Exodus 17:8–13; Numbers 14:45; Judges 3:13; 6:3), so they also fell under God’s judgment. King Saul was given the responsibility to exterminate the Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:2–3). Saul shirked his duty and lied about it (1 Samuel 15:20). The results were dire—just a couple of decades later, there were enough Amalekites to take David and his men’s families captive (1 Samuel 30:1–2). Several hundred years after that, a descendant of the Amalekites, Haman, tried to have the entire Jewish people exterminated (see the book of Esther). So, Saul’s incomplete obedience almost resulted in Israel’s destruction. If Saul had obeyed the voice of the Lord, it would have saved David’s men and the Jews of Esther’s day a lot of trouble.

4. To fulfil the curse on Canaan. Centuries before Moses’ command to eradicate the Canaanites, Noah had cursed one of Ham’s sons: “Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers” (Genesis 9:25). Canaan was the ancestor of the Canaanites, as Genesis 10 makes clear. The descendants of Canaan include the Sidonians, the Hittites, the Jebusites, the Amorites, and the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 10:15–19). Noah’s curse/prophecy came true during the time of Joshua. The Canaanites were conquered by the Israelites, who were descendants of one of Ham’s brothers, Shem. Not all of the Canaanites were exterminated; true to God’s Word, some of the Canaanites became slaves (Joshua 9:27; 17:12–13).

The most difficult part of the command of Deuteronomy 20:16–17 is that, when the Canaanites were exterminated, women and children were not spared. Why would God order the death of noncombatants and innocent children? Here are some things to remember:

⁍ No one is “innocent” in the sense of being sinless (Psalm 51:5; 58:3).
⁍ These women were participants in the degrading sins of Canaan, and the children would have grown up sympathetic to the evil religions and practices of their parents.
⁍ These women and, eventually, the children would naturally have been resentful of the Israelites and later sought to avenge the “unjust” treatment the Canaanite men had received.
In the end, God is sovereign over all of life, and He can take it whenever and however He sees fit. God alone can give life, and God alone has the right to take it. God is under no obligation to extend anyone’s life for even another day. How and when we die is completely up to Him. In the case of the Canaanites, their end came after a time of tolerance and patient grace. But Judgment Day finally comes to all, and it came to the Canaanites via the Hebrew people.

 

[Frankenstein]

^ Another conservative interfering in the intimate lives of others and demanding adherence to their disturbed strictures.

Quiet I'm trying to save the nation!

 

[alang1216]

Did they have porn in your school library, or was that the problem, you had to buy it?

Porn doesn't belong in school libraries at all, skank

Porn is in the eye of the beholder but there were certainly books in the past that people, such as yourself, wanted banned from schools.

Between 1986 and 2000, at least nine different attempts to remove The Catcher in the Rye from schools.

 

[Frankenstein]

The Bible glorifying child rape, torture and murder is a good thing?

Who knew?

Rape? The Bible addresses the issue of rape directly. And, as one would expect, the Bible depicts rape as a gross violation of God’s design (e.g., Genesis 34). The Bible condemns rape whenever it is mentioned.