Lockdown Fans: What Is Your Endgame Plan?

[bripat9643]

In reply to Cecilie 1200, my answer is the same if everyone followed the guide lines we could be open now, just like we never had to close. if every one had followed the guide lines set by the medical pros. Some areas that have large populations in a small amount of land mass would have been tighter with guide lines. Nothing can or will ever be perfect, its putting the best effort forward by all Americans, not going to war with each other over political ideologies

That's a claim with no visible means of support.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Okay, and then what happens? We lock down for a year, or two years - because you're insane if you think a "proven antiviral" is going to turn up sooner - and what's the rest of the picture look like?

I advocated a lockdown for only those who spoke caringly against the so-called Obamacare "death panels". These people should expect full protection of the government in avoiding the virus' illness. Whether this is one year, two years, that's not my concern. In fact I advocate the longer these people are locked away, the better. As for the rest of us we'll go about our normal lives taking precautions we each individually choose. Just as we did as we took action against the swine flu some 11 years ago.

Ah, so rather than discussing the actual topic, what you're telling me is that you were just trying to shoehorn your favorite political attack into my thread.

Got it.

Now, unless you have something real to say beyond, "I hate these people, and we should use this to SCREW THEM OVER!!! AAAAAaaarrrghh!!" please join the long line of people who are not only free to leave, but encouraged to.

 

[mudwhistle]

People who want the lockdowns to continue spend a lot of time shouting slogans and congratulating themselves on how they're "the only ones who care about saving lives", but I have yet to hear any of them tell us what their actual plan is for an endgame, or how they envision the future going forward if we were to cave in to their demands.

So I'd really like to know: if you could convince all the governors to continue the lockdowns, what do you think that looks like? How long do you want it to last, and/or what is your metric for ending it? And then what happens? What's your plan going forward from there? Do you have one?

Their endgame is crushing Capitalism and ushering in a new socialist society built on total equality for the working-class.
A new RUSSIA... I mean.....A NEW UNITED STATES FROM HEREON CALLED THE UNITED SOVIET STATES of CALIFORNIA!!!!

 

[Cecilie1200]

In reply to Cecilie 1200, my answer is the same if everyone followed the guide lines we could be open now, just like we never had to close. if every one had followed the guide lines set by the medical pros. Some areas that have large populations in a small amount of land mass would have been tighter with guide lines. Nothing can or will ever be perfect, its putting the best effort forward by all Americans, not going to war with each other over political ideologies

Yes, but as I keep telling you, the question is NOT, "What should we have done months ago, and how wrong do you think we were?" It was, is, and shall ever be, "What's the plan from here? If you don't like Trump's plan going forward, what's your alternative?"

 

[bripat9643]

Gee, maybe your blob should have lobbied to have those supplies sent here instead of to his buddies in China. Just a thought.

You just complimented him on invoking the DPA. A lot of that did go to the states.

The material made by the DPA and the gifts your blob gave to the Chinese are two different things.

Who else would you have put in charge of delivering the supplies? We are a country that helps people. We are not going to let innocent people anywhere suffer because of the CCP's negligence.

I wouldn't have delivered the supplies to China in the first place. But your blob did. That you defend his actions? Well...thats on you.

Trump didn't "deliver" any supplies to China. That had nothing to do with the federal government. Private organizations sent the supplies to China. Trump didn't even know it was happening. You're too stupid to understand that the federal government doesn't control everything that happens in this country.

The state department did in fact deliver the donated supplies.

Link?

Sure.

The United States Announces Assistance To Combat the Novel Coronavirus - United States Department of State

The U.S. is prepared to spend up to $100 million in existing funds to assist China and other impacted countries to contain and combat the novel coronavirus.

www.state.gov

That was Feb 7, moron. That's before we had a single reported case in this country.

So? You denied it happened. I provided proof it did, that's all.

It didn't happen at a time when anyone would have objected to it. It's a non sequitur.

 

[Rocko]

No one is a fan of the lockdown btw. This thread is heavily tarded. Just saying

 

[Rocko]

For those of you saying the country will go bankrupt in a month or two if this continues. Any evidence to back that up? I’m pretty sure the economy would survive if we weathered the storm a bit longer.

Like most issues this is not black and white, it’s up to experts like doctor Fauci to find that gray area. We have made some progress with the mitigation efforts. We just need more. None of us are infectious disease experts, so I don’t think anyone of us are qualified enough to put together a sensible plan. To some degree both sides of this argument are arguing out of emotion. Sometimes you have to put your trust in those of us that are more experienced and wiser. I trust our experts have put in place a plan that preserves life to the best of their abilities and I’m willing to see that plan through. People like Fauci and Brix aren’t trying to destroy the country

Excuse me, but if you want to have a discussion about, "Well, what makes you think shutting down the economy will cause bankruptcy", go start your own thread about it, asshole. This is MY thread, and it's about answering MY questions, and trying to derail it by making it about "I only demand answers, I don't give them" will just be seen as "I have no plan, I just want to attack Trump!"

Is that, in fact, your answer?

You just ignored the part where I answered you question. You just didn’t like the answer. I added in a question, which is related to the discussion, and you didn’t like the question, so now all of a sudden I’m an asshole. And BTW there are a lot of heartless bastards on this board that don’t give a second thought to the health of others in the community around them. We’re seeing it in this thread with responses like I don’t give a fuck about your grandma. Those people are the assholes, not someone who happens to disagree with you that we should trust the experts we have.

I ignored nothing. You're apparently either too ignorant to understand what the question was, or too ignorant to understand that nothing you said answered it. Unless you're so unfamiliar with independent thinking that you believe, "I'm sure everything will be fine, and the smart people will make it work out" is a plan.

So you’re in the name calling club of anyone who believes the experts in charge have more of a grasp on what steps should be followed than “independent thinkers” such as yourself and all the other retards on this site. Got it. Get bent.

Let's be clear, Spanky. You can play at feeling "victimized" for some apocryphal "noble principle" you pretend to have espoused. But you can't make me join in your delusion, or ignore the fact that you ACTUALLY got your ass called out for being a moron.

Get your head out of your ass, gutter trash. You started with the name calling and I’ve always been respectful to you prior to that. Just because you don’t like someone’s answer to your question or feel they haven’t addressed your question appropriately doesn’t mean you should call them assholes. You did. You should own up to your rudeness and apologize, but both of us no you won’t.

Furthermore you made this about Trump, whom I didn’t even address, I don’t claim the moral high ground in reference to everyone wanting the economy to reopen. I do however claim the moral high ground against people I don’t give a fuck about your grandma open the economy up.

 

[RhinelandCityLimits]

Um, did that make sense in some language that isn't English? Because in English, I have no clue what you are trying to communicate.

No clout, cowardly tiny Russian Circus Clown 'values' !

 

[Cecilie1200]

No one is a fan of the lockdowns. Some people just love their mothers, fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers and are not eager to sacrifice them to President Trump's reelection campaign.

that group apparently does not include Fredo’s brother, the New York governor who insisted that chinese disease patients be sent to nursing homes

How many dead Americans do you think are "acceptable" losses? Give us a number.

How many bankrupt and financially destroyed Americans do you believe to be acceptable?

More than the number of dead ones.

50 million, asshole?

50 million living people can start over again. The dead cannot, nor will the families and friends ever recover from the loss. Life is more important than money motherfucker, plain and simple.

You really are an asshole.

Your gandma can die, for all I care. I won't have my life destroyed so your grandma doesn't have to isolate herself.

My grandmother died in 1995. But I refuse to see lives destroyed because your punk ass doesn't have the discipline to do what it takes to reduce the spread of the virus just so you can go down to the store and buy a bag of seeds. We don't need to be infected because of idiots like you. You right wingers are like children. I don't like this any more than you do, but I am not willing to get sick so I can go watch state u play a football game. Nor am I willing to get sick just so I can make some money. We don't have an economy if half the people are sick. And we certainly don't if people are dying. So grow up. You ain't missing nothing because you can't go sell something

You don't think lives are destroyed when people are unemployed for years, go bankrupt, lose everything they own and live on the street?

You're a colossal dumbfuck. If you don't want to be infected, then stay in your house, but don't be telling other people they can't go to work. 95% of people who get COVID-19 don't even know it, so how is half the population going to be so sick that they can't go to work? only 0.01% of the population will die because of COVID-19. I'm not exactly quacking in my boots over that.

As I was explaining to someone yesterday, it's not even just about the lives of people in the United States if the US economy collapses. Even if the pie-in-the-sky leftists are right and America will never devolve into a third-world country, what about those places that already ARE third-world countries, whose people are dependent on American charity and generosity to even survive? What the hell happens to them when we're so broke and desperate ourselves that we have nothing to give them? Or does saving THOSE lives no longer matter when the left has a new set of human shields to hide behind?

I went to Sams Club today and they had no pork and very little beef. What are the callous self centered retired old coots going to do when there's nothing to eat?

Do you even get WHY there is no pork or beef?

There's no beef or Pork because of hysterical douchebags like you.

Wrong, idiot. There is no beef or pork because of the consolidation of the meat packing industry. Hundreds of people crammed together spreading the virus to each other...and turning little towns into COVID hot spots.

Fascinating. And that addresses the topic of the thread how?

Why don't you ask Bripat, your bitchness? He's the one babbling about no meat at Sam's Club

My question was for people who want to extend the lockdowns, Your Stupidness. Bri doesn't want to extend them, so the question is not to him.

No, you asked me what our (his and mine)discussion about meat had to do with the topic of your thread. It is weird that you would ask me what it has to do with the topic when he is the one that brought it up. Only people that agree with you are allowed to talk about meat and not the topic of your thread?

Bri doesn't have a problem addressing the topic. You, on the other hand, have a history of ignoring the topic to try to deflect off onto your talking points.

That was classic projection. Textbook even. Your lame, strawman, topic was "addressed" over and over. You just didn't get the response your hindass demanded. Tissue?

"Straw man" does not mean "things I don't want to talk about", Seabiscuit. If you really can't see how asking what alternative people have to offer to reopening is a relevant topic to discuss, then you are literally the only one who can't see it, and you're probably also in need of a helmet and a babysitter for your own protection.

You just don't like that you can't get away with deflecting and turning this thread into your standard, warmed-over shouting match of "My slogans mean I'm a good person and you aren't!"

Your Strawman is your statement that anyone wants the lockdown. Necessary doesn't equate to desired.

Your straw man is in trying to pretend the focus is your professed feelings about something. You've only been told this approximately a million times: no one gives a shit how you "feel" about something. The only thing that interests us is what you DO, not how you profess to feel about doing it.

So if you could stop gazing at your belly button for two seconds, perhaps you could get around to telling us how you think your "necessary" action plays out.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I just popped in on my lunch break to see if any lockdown proponents bothered to answer my questions, or if they all just came crowding in to scream slogans and tell us, "All I need to know is Orange Man Bad!"

So I guess that clears it up: there is no one supporting continued lockdowns who is doing so because they want to save lives. They just want a chance to attack Trump. That's it, that's all, and they haven't given a single thought to what the effects of their demands might be, because it doesn't matter to them.

You are full of bovine feces as usual. Quite a few people told you exactly when the lockdowns can end. It’s a very simple answer. TESTING.

You are full of bullshit as always. I didn't ASK, "When can lockdowns end?" I asked, "If you want the lockdowns to continue, tell me how that looks and what the plan is for that future?"

Is there ever going to be a point in your ignorant, cowardly life when you answer the question being asked instead of the question you WISH had been asked?

Oh no...her bitchness is getting upset. This is terrible. She's demanding someone play with her strawman. Boo hoo.

Nobody wants lockdowns to continue. What the future needs to look like to end the lockdowns is testing upwards of 20 million people a day and lots of contact tracing.

"The only acceptable topic is personal attacks and maintaining what a good person I believe I am for XYZ talking points! You can't make me think about consequences, because my masters haven't told me to!"

I'm glad you think it's perfectly okay to demand the deaths of millions of people worldwide so long as you shout about how much you don't WANT to do it.

Wow, that was quite the nonsensical rant. Can't get your meds on lockdown?

Wow, that was a lot of desperation. Reality inconveniencing you?

I realize that leftists are accustomed to thinking that talking about how they feel about something is the same as actually doing something. Doesn't work that way in the real world. If you kill someone, "I didn't WANT to do it" does not constitute a defense, let alone mean that you didn't do it.

Way to double down on "what the fuck are you ranting about?".

What talking points? Following CDC recommendations are talking points? Yeah, okay.

Way to triple down on "I'm responding to something you didn't say". My post didn't say anything about talking points. Not, you understand, that I don't think every word out of you is a talking point someone told you to parrot, but this doesn't happen to be a time when I mentioned it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

No one is a fan of the lockdowns. Some people just love their mothers, fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers and are not eager to sacrifice them to President Trump's reelection campaign.

250 million people world wide are going to be starving if we don’t get our food supply flowing like it was before the lockdown. How long do you expect to keep grandparents away from their grandkids? This is no where near as simple as you claim it to be.

7.8 billion people world wide are looking at a pandemic right now. We might want to end that first.

And only around 46.8 million of the most unhealthy people are looking at death from covid, vs the 3x that amount, 250 million, infants to elderly, are looking at starving to death. 68 million in this country alone are looking at crippling unemployment.

And that's just our country. Anyone who thinks the US economy can collapse without taking every other country with it is high as balls and hallucinating.

Anybody who thinks the economy can be fully productive when people are scared to go to work because they could get sick or die is high as balls and hallucinating.

That is silly.
When only 70k out of 330 million have died, that only 0.021%.
That means only 2 out of every 10,000 people have died.
No one would be scared about going to work if they were not constantly be lied to and facing hysterical propaganda.

And the culprit is obvious.
When a vaccine is available, think about the profits from selling 330 million anxious customers, a vaccine at $100 a shot?

It's not the number that have died that concerns people, it's number that will die. One does not have to be a scientist or a visionary to see where we're going. The average number of covid 19 deaths per day in the US averaged over the last 2 weeks has been 1650/day. If that death rate continues without increasing due to opening up the country, the death toll will rise to 240,000 by the middle of August and exceed 450,000 by the end of the year. And that's if we're successful in opening the country so the death rate does not increase.

But there are two questions that need to be addressed in that.

One, are the lockdowns actually saving people from dying, or are they just delaying it a little? I mean, we've been locked down to varying degrees for a while now, and cases and deaths keep coming up. And whatever the leftists might like to believe, they aren't concentrated in the areas with less-strict lockdowns. If the lockdowns are delaying people getting it and dying from it, that works IF a vaccine or cure is going to come along soon. Otherwise, the end result is going to be the same.

Two, what about the deaths caused by the lockdowns themselves? Anyone who pretends that reopen vs lockdown is a binary choice between deaths vs no deaths is drunk.

 

[Cecilie1200]

For those of you saying the country will go bankrupt in a month or two if this continues. Any evidence to back that up? I’m pretty sure the economy would survive if we weathered the storm a bit longer.

Like most issues this is not black and white, it’s up to experts like doctor Fauci to find that gray area. We have made some progress with the mitigation efforts. We just need more. None of us are infectious disease experts, so I don’t think anyone of us are qualified enough to put together a sensible plan. To some degree both sides of this argument are arguing out of emotion. Sometimes you have to put your trust in those of us that are more experienced and wiser. I trust our experts have put in place a plan that preserves life to the best of their abilities and I’m willing to see that plan through. People like Fauci and Brix aren’t trying to destroy the country

Excuse me, but if you want to have a discussion about, "Well, what makes you think shutting down the economy will cause bankruptcy", go start your own thread about it, asshole. This is MY thread, and it's about answering MY questions, and trying to derail it by making it about "I only demand answers, I don't give them" will just be seen as "I have no plan, I just want to attack Trump!"

Is that, in fact, your answer?

You just ignored the part where I answered you question. You just didn’t like the answer. I added in a question, which is related to the discussion, and you didn’t like the question, so now all of a sudden I’m an asshole. And BTW there are a lot of heartless bastards on this board that don’t give a second thought to the health of others in the community around them. We’re seeing it in this thread with responses like I don’t give a fuck about your grandma. Those people are the assholes, not someone who happens to disagree with you that we should trust the experts we have.

I ignored nothing. You're apparently either too ignorant to understand what the question was, or too ignorant to understand that nothing you said answered it. Unless you're so unfamiliar with independent thinking that you believe, "I'm sure everything will be fine, and the smart people will make it work out" is a plan.

So you’re in the name calling club of anyone who believes the experts in charge have more of a grasp on what steps should be followed than “independent thinkers” such as yourself and all the other retards on this site. Got it. Get bent.

Let's be clear, Spanky. You can play at feeling "victimized" for some apocryphal "noble principle" you pretend to have espoused. But you can't make me join in your delusion, or ignore the fact that you ACTUALLY got your ass called out for being a moron.

Get your head out of your ass, gutter trash. You started with the name calling and I’ve always been respectful to you prior to that. Just because you don’t like someone’s answer to your question or feel they haven’t addressed your question appropriately doesn’t mean you should call them assholes. You did. You should own up to your rudeness and apologize, but both of us no you won’t.

Furthermore you made this about Trump, whom I didn’t even address, I don’t claim the moral high ground in reference to everyone wanting the economy to reopen. I do however claim the moral high ground against people I don’t give a fuck about your grandma open the economy up.

Hey, fucktard, this is not about your hurt feelings and your demands to be treated nicer. Get YOUR head out of your ass and realize that 1) you provided a shitty answer, 2) you got treated to the respect you earned with that shitty answer, 3) I knew it would probably hurt your feelings when I said it, and I didn't care, and 4) now that you're throwing a tantrum about how I wasn't nice enough to you, I care even less.

This WILL be the last time we talk about your feelings in this thread, snowflake, because you are boring and childish and sucking up time and space which you have manifestly proven you are not worthy of. Consider this all the "apology" you are going to get: I'm very sorry that I didn't ALSO tell you that your mommy should ground you from using her computer.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Um, did that make sense in some language that isn't English? Because in English, I have no clue what you are trying to communicate.

No clout, cowardly tiny Russian Circus Clown 'values' !

Ah, now I understand you perfectly.

FLUSH!

 

[Cecilie1200]

No one is a fan of the lockdown btw. This thread is heavily tarded. Just saying

"Never mind that I'm advocating them. How DARE you say I like them!!!!"

This poster is heavily "tarded". Just saying.

Take your 12-year-old ass to some nice, safe Justin Bieber board, or whoever it is you kids are listening to these days.

 

[Likkmee]

My end-game, if things don't ever get back to 2018 or so levels, is likely to be a nice heroin-speedball overdose after some smoked trout and lamb kabobz. Never did any before but it might be cool. Some Santana/Bose at 150 amps on 11 and naked at the waterfall. I'll crank my V-max to 140 or so right before firing the grill

 

[Seawytch]

No one is a fan of the lockdowns. Some people just love their mothers, fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers and are not eager to sacrifice them to President Trump's reelection campaign.

that group apparently does not include Fredo’s brother, the New York governor who insisted that chinese disease patients be sent to nursing homes

How many dead Americans do you think are "acceptable" losses? Give us a number.

How many bankrupt and financially destroyed Americans do you believe to be acceptable?

More than the number of dead ones.

50 million, asshole?

50 million living people can start over again. The dead cannot, nor will the families and friends ever recover from the loss. Life is more important than money motherfucker, plain and simple.

You really are an asshole.

Your gandma can die, for all I care. I won't have my life destroyed so your grandma doesn't have to isolate herself.

My grandmother died in 1995. But I refuse to see lives destroyed because your punk ass doesn't have the discipline to do what it takes to reduce the spread of the virus just so you can go down to the store and buy a bag of seeds. We don't need to be infected because of idiots like you. You right wingers are like children. I don't like this any more than you do, but I am not willing to get sick so I can go watch state u play a football game. Nor am I willing to get sick just so I can make some money. We don't have an economy if half the people are sick. And we certainly don't if people are dying. So grow up. You ain't missing nothing because you can't go sell something

You don't think lives are destroyed when people are unemployed for years, go bankrupt, lose everything they own and live on the street?

You're a colossal dumbfuck. If you don't want to be infected, then stay in your house, but don't be telling other people they can't go to work. 95% of people who get COVID-19 don't even know it, so how is half the population going to be so sick that they can't go to work? only 0.01% of the population will die because of COVID-19. I'm not exactly quacking in my boots over that.

As I was explaining to someone yesterday, it's not even just about the lives of people in the United States if the US economy collapses. Even if the pie-in-the-sky leftists are right and America will never devolve into a third-world country, what about those places that already ARE third-world countries, whose people are dependent on American charity and generosity to even survive? What the hell happens to them when we're so broke and desperate ourselves that we have nothing to give them? Or does saving THOSE lives no longer matter when the left has a new set of human shields to hide behind?

I went to Sams Club today and they had no pork and very little beef. What are the callous self centered retired old coots going to do when there's nothing to eat?

Do you even get WHY there is no pork or beef?

There's no beef or Pork because of hysterical douchebags like you.

Wrong, idiot. There is no beef or pork because of the consolidation of the meat packing industry. Hundreds of people crammed together spreading the virus to each other...and turning little towns into COVID hot spots.

Fascinating. And that addresses the topic of the thread how?

Why don't you ask Bripat, your bitchness? He's the one babbling about no meat at Sam's Club

My question was for people who want to extend the lockdowns, Your Stupidness. Bri doesn't want to extend them, so the question is not to him.

No, you asked me what our (his and mine)discussion about meat had to do with the topic of your thread. It is weird that you would ask me what it has to do with the topic when he is the one that brought it up. Only people that agree with you are allowed to talk about meat and not the topic of your thread?

Bri doesn't have a problem addressing the topic. You, on the other hand, have a history of ignoring the topic to try to deflect off onto your talking points.

That was classic projection. Textbook even. Your lame, strawman, topic was "addressed" over and over. You just didn't get the response your hindass demanded. Tissue?

"Straw man" does not mean "things I don't want to talk about", Seabiscuit. If you really can't see how asking what alternative people have to offer to reopening is a relevant topic to discuss, then you are literally the only one who can't see it, and you're probably also in need of a helmet and a babysitter for your own protection.

You just don't like that you can't get away with deflecting and turning this thread into your standard, warmed-over shouting match of "My slogans mean I'm a good person and you aren't!"

Your Strawman is your statement that anyone wants the lockdown. Necessary doesn't equate to desired.

Your straw man is in trying to pretend the focus is your professed feelings about something. You've only been told this approximately a million times: no one gives a shit how you "feel" about something. The only thing that interests us is what you DO, not how you profess to feel about doing it.

So if you could stop gazing at your belly button for two seconds, perhaps you could get around to telling us how you think your "necessary" action plays out.

Weird that you're the only one seeming to get emotional. You're practically frothing when someone doesn't answer your ridiculous questions exactly the way you want them to. Poor bitchness realizing the world doesn't revolve around her?

 

[Seawytch]

I just popped in on my lunch break to see if any lockdown proponents bothered to answer my questions, or if they all just came crowding in to scream slogans and tell us, "All I need to know is Orange Man Bad!"

So I guess that clears it up: there is no one supporting continued lockdowns who is doing so because they want to save lives. They just want a chance to attack Trump. That's it, that's all, and they haven't given a single thought to what the effects of their demands might be, because it doesn't matter to them.

You are full of bovine feces as usual. Quite a few people told you exactly when the lockdowns can end. It’s a very simple answer. TESTING.

You are full of bullshit as always. I didn't ASK, "When can lockdowns end?" I asked, "If you want the lockdowns to continue, tell me how that looks and what the plan is for that future?"

Is there ever going to be a point in your ignorant, cowardly life when you answer the question being asked instead of the question you WISH had been asked?

Oh no...her bitchness is getting upset. This is terrible. She's demanding someone play with her strawman. Boo hoo.

Nobody wants lockdowns to continue. What the future needs to look like to end the lockdowns is testing upwards of 20 million people a day and lots of contact tracing.

"The only acceptable topic is personal attacks and maintaining what a good person I believe I am for XYZ talking points! You can't make me think about consequences, because my masters haven't told me to!"

I'm glad you think it's perfectly okay to demand the deaths of millions of people worldwide so long as you shout about how much you don't WANT to do it.

Wow, that was quite the nonsensical rant. Can't get your meds on lockdown?

Wow, that was a lot of desperation. Reality inconveniencing you?

I realize that leftists are accustomed to thinking that talking about how they feel about something is the same as actually doing something. Doesn't work that way in the real world. If you kill someone, "I didn't WANT to do it" does not constitute a defense, let alone mean that you didn't do it.

Way to double down on "what the fuck are you ranting about?".

What talking points? Following CDC recommendations are talking points? Yeah, okay.

Way to triple down on "I'm responding to something you didn't say". My post didn't say anything about talking points. Not, you understand, that I don't think every word out of you is a talking point someone told you to parrot, but this doesn't happen to be a time when I mentioned it.

It is actually in this thread, dumb ass. I bolded it and made it red for your hindass.

 

[Rocko]

For those of you saying the country will go bankrupt in a month or two if this continues. Any evidence to back that up? I’m pretty sure the economy would survive if we weathered the storm a bit longer.

Like most issues this is not black and white, it’s up to experts like doctor Fauci to find that gray area. We have made some progress with the mitigation efforts. We just need more. None of us are infectious disease experts, so I don’t think anyone of us are qualified enough to put together a sensible plan. To some degree both sides of this argument are arguing out of emotion. Sometimes you have to put your trust in those of us that are more experienced and wiser. I trust our experts have put in place a plan that preserves life to the best of their abilities and I’m willing to see that plan through. People like Fauci and Brix aren’t trying to destroy the country

Excuse me, but if you want to have a discussion about, "Well, what makes you think shutting down the economy will cause bankruptcy", go start your own thread about it, asshole. This is MY thread, and it's about answering MY questions, and trying to derail it by making it about "I only demand answers, I don't give them" will just be seen as "I have no plan, I just want to attack Trump!"

Is that, in fact, your answer?

You just ignored the part where I answered you question. You just didn’t like the answer. I added in a question, which is related to the discussion, and you didn’t like the question, so now all of a sudden I’m an asshole. And BTW there are a lot of heartless bastards on this board that don’t give a second thought to the health of others in the community around them. We’re seeing it in this thread with responses like I don’t give a fuck about your grandma. Those people are the assholes, not someone who happens to disagree with you that we should trust the experts we have.

I ignored nothing. You're apparently either too ignorant to understand what the question was, or too ignorant to understand that nothing you said answered it. Unless you're so unfamiliar with independent thinking that you believe, "I'm sure everything will be fine, and the smart people will make it work out" is a plan.

So you’re in the name calling club of anyone who believes the experts in charge have more of a grasp on what steps should be followed than “independent thinkers” such as yourself and all the other retards on this site. Got it. Get bent.

Let's be clear, Spanky. You can play at feeling "victimized" for some apocryphal "noble principle" you pretend to have espoused. But you can't make me join in your delusion, or ignore the fact that you ACTUALLY got your ass called out for being a moron.

Get your head out of your ass, gutter trash. You started with the name calling and I’ve always been respectful to you prior to that. Just because you don’t like someone’s answer to your question or feel they haven’t addressed your question appropriately doesn’t mean you should call them assholes. You did. You should own up to your rudeness and apologize, but both of us no you won’t.

Furthermore you made this about Trump, whom I didn’t even address, I don’t claim the moral high ground in reference to everyone wanting the economy to reopen. I do however claim the moral high ground against people I don’t give a fuck about your grandma open the economy up.

Hey, fucktard, this is not about your hurt feelings and your demands to be treated nicer. Get YOUR head out of your ass and realize that 1) you provided a shitty answer, 2) you got treated to the respect you earned with that shitty answer, 3) I knew it would probably hurt your feelings when I said it, and I didn't care, and 4) now that you're throwing a tantrum about how I wasn't nice enough to you, I care even less.

This WILL be the last time we talk about your feelings in this thread, snowflake, because you are boring and childish and sucking up time and space which you have manifestly proven you are not worthy of. Consider this all the "apology" you are going to get: I'm very sorry that I didn't ALSO tell you that your mommy should ground you from using her computer.

Just because I pointed out that you were rude and you initiated an uncalled for personal attack doesn’t mean you hurt my feelings. Get over yourself. I find it amusing how easily you become emotionally unhinged. You did however double down on your insults , in a rage if I may add, just like I thought you would when I bought to your attention your unbecoming behavior. Furthermore your thread is based on a false premise, so your precious thread is about as useful as you are, which is to say not very. Because your flawed thread is so important to your self worth you should like every post that even dignifies your OP with any type of response. I thought I was being charitable to you when I posted. And lastly, idiot, like I was saying, and I know it’s gets you butthurt, I trust Fauci and Birx on laying out a plan during every step of the way more than you or your hillbilly, toothless friends.

 

[Dr Grump]

For those of you saying the country will go bankrupt in a month or two if this continues. Any evidence to back that up? I’m pretty sure the economy would survive if we weathered the storm a bit longer.

Like most issues this is not black and white, it’s up to experts like doctor Fauci to find that gray area. We have made some progress with the mitigation efforts. We just need more. None of us are infectious disease experts, so I don’t think anyone of us are qualified enough to put together a sensible plan. To some degree both sides of this argument are arguing out of emotion. Sometimes you have to put your trust in those of us that are more experienced and wiser. I trust our experts have put in place a plan that preserves life to the best of their abilities and I’m willing to see that plan through. People like Fauci and Brix aren’t trying to destroy the country

Excuse me, but if you want to have a discussion about, "Well, what makes you think shutting down the economy will cause bankruptcy", go start your own thread about it, asshole. This is MY thread, and it's about answering MY questions, and trying to derail it by making it about "I only demand answers, I don't give them" will just be seen as "I have no plan, I just want to attack Trump!"

Is that, in fact, your answer?

You just ignored the part where I answered you question. You just didn’t like the answer. I added in a question, which is related to the discussion, and you didn’t like the question, so now all of a sudden I’m an asshole. And BTW there are a lot of heartless bastards on this board that don’t give a second thought to the health of others in the community around them. We’re seeing it in this thread with responses like I don’t give a fuck about your grandma. Those people are the assholes, not someone who happens to disagree with you that we should trust the experts we have.

I ignored nothing. You're apparently either too ignorant to understand what the question was, or too ignorant to understand that nothing you said answered it. Unless you're so unfamiliar with independent thinking that you believe, "I'm sure everything will be fine, and the smart people will make it work out" is a plan.

So you’re in the name calling club of anyone who believes the experts in charge have more of a grasp on what steps should be followed than “independent thinkers” such as yourself and all the other retards on this site. Got it. Get bent.

You have to realise that the likes of Cecille and her brethren are the experts on everything. Never mind scientists, doctors etc spend years of their lives studying a topic, getting peer reviewed papers published etc. These whackadoodles know more about viruses, climate change - you name it, they're experts.

 

[Rocko]

For those of you saying the country will go bankrupt in a month or two if this continues. Any evidence to back that up? I’m pretty sure the economy would survive if we weathered the storm a bit longer.

Like most issues this is not black and white, it’s up to experts like doctor Fauci to find that gray area. We have made some progress with the mitigation efforts. We just need more. None of us are infectious disease experts, so I don’t think anyone of us are qualified enough to put together a sensible plan. To some degree both sides of this argument are arguing out of emotion. Sometimes you have to put your trust in those of us that are more experienced and wiser. I trust our experts have put in place a plan that preserves life to the best of their abilities and I’m willing to see that plan through. People like Fauci and Brix aren’t trying to destroy the country

Excuse me, but if you want to have a discussion about, "Well, what makes you think shutting down the economy will cause bankruptcy", go start your own thread about it, asshole. This is MY thread, and it's about answering MY questions, and trying to derail it by making it about "I only demand answers, I don't give them" will just be seen as "I have no plan, I just want to attack Trump!"

Is that, in fact, your answer?

You just ignored the part where I answered you question. You just didn’t like the answer. I added in a question, which is related to the discussion, and you didn’t like the question, so now all of a sudden I’m an asshole. And BTW there are a lot of heartless bastards on this board that don’t give a second thought to the health of others in the community around them. We’re seeing it in this thread with responses like I don’t give a fuck about your grandma. Those people are the assholes, not someone who happens to disagree with you that we should trust the experts we have.

I ignored nothing. You're apparently either too ignorant to understand what the question was, or too ignorant to understand that nothing you said answered it. Unless you're so unfamiliar with independent thinking that you believe, "I'm sure everything will be fine, and the smart people will make it work out" is a plan.

So you’re in the name calling club of anyone who believes the experts in charge have more of a grasp on what steps should be followed than “independent thinkers” such as yourself and all the other retards on this site. Got it. Get bent.

You have to realise that the likes of Cecille and her brethren are the experts on everything. Never mind scientists, doctors etc spend years of their lives studying a topic, getting peer reviewed papers published etc. These whackadoodles know more about viruses, climate change - you name it, they're experts.

Exactly! No one could ever accuse me of being an expert on these such things, nor do I profess to being one, but my inclination to trust those that are considered the best we have in dealing with these matters seems very commonsensical, and that sentiment elicits a rage out of these idiots.