Looks Like The Cat's Out Of The Bag....

[skookerasbil]

What you see in this thread is typical.... the progressives pivoting back to the science debate. As if it matters!

Changing the subject as a debate strategy is always gay and carried out by progressives all the time..... but in this case it is particularly laughable because it is immaterial to the topic.

 

[skookerasbil]

PoliticalChic plants another haymaker on the jaw of the hysterical left.

Indeed....this is like a MOAB being dropped on top of the local Starbucks.

 

[SSDD]

"When have we ever had such a nut job for president?"

Two years ago.

President Obama was the greatest president in the past 50 years, since LBJ.

That is indisputable.

What exactly did LBJ do except get us inescapably mired in the Viet Nam war? Sure, the Civil Rights act passed, but it was republicans that carried that through, democrats were fighting it tooth and nail. His "war on poverty" resulted in a welfare system that created generational poverty and dependence on government....

He made unrealistic promises and his enduring legacy will be Viet Nam. Some great president. Obama was even worse...I never thought there could be a president worse than Jimmy Carter but obama proved me wrong.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"When have we ever had such a nut job for president?"

Two years ago.

President Obama was the greatest president in the past 50 years, since LBJ
That is indisputable.

"President Obama was the greatest president in the past 50 years, since LBJ
That is indisputable."



Actually, he mirrors your reputation: the greatest laughing stock.

That's indisputable.....

Let's prove it together:


1. China underscores disrespect for Obama during his visit:

"...Obama downplayed dust-ups involving the U.S. delegation and Chinese security officials during the opening hours of his trip to Hangzhou for the G-20 summit, ....

The early hours of Obama’s trip were marred by confrontations involving Chinese security officials,.... When Air Force One touched down at the Hangzhou airport, Obama was not greeted, as is customary, by a staircase, but had to deplane from the lower level of his 747 jet.

Reporters and U.S. officials were kept away from the welcoming ceremony by a rope line.... When the president’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, and her deputy, Ben Rhodes, attempted to pass under the barricade, they were confronted by a Chinese security official "They did things that weren’t anticipated," Rice later told reporters..."
Obama Downplays Tensions After Skirmishes During China Visit


2. "Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte called Barack Obama a "son of a whore" on Monday as he vowed not to be lectured by the US leader on human rights when they meet in Laos.

The acid-tongued Duterte bristled at warnings he would face questioning by the US president over a war against drugs in the Philippines that has claimed more than 2,400 lives in just over two months.

"You must be respectful. Do not just throw away questions and statements. Son of a whore, I will curse you in that forum," Duterte told a news conference shortly before flying to Laos to attend a summit."
Philippines' Duterte calls Obama 'son of a whore'

3. "Iran’s most recent ballistic missile test, which violates current U.N. Security Council resolutions, comes a day after the international community’s nuclear watchdog organization disclosed that it is prohibited by the nuclear agreement from publicly reporting on potential violations by Iran.

Iranian leaders now say that they are poised to walk away from the deal if the United States and other global powers fail to advance the Islamic Republic’s “national interests.”
Iran Threatens to Walk Away From Nuke Deal After New Missile Test


Iran laughs at Obama....


4. No Respect...he, and you, the world's laughing stock: Obama removes restrictions on Cuba, gets nothing in return. And....he visits, but Raul Castro couldn't be bothered to be at the airport:

" As the plane landed at a rainy Jose Marti International Airport, Mr Obama tweeted: "What's up Cuba? Just touched down here, looking forward to meeting and hearing directly from the Cuban people." The president was greeted by foreign minister Bruno Rodriguez - not president Raul Castro. Instead he will hold talks with his Cuban counterpart on Monday." Obama Arrives In Cuba For Historic Visit

"Both Donald Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz slammed the greeting President Obama and his wife received during their historic touch-down at a Cuban airport, saying the failure of Raul Castro to personally greet them as they exited Air Force One was a slap in the face to America."
www.wnd.com/2016/03/obama-snubbed-castro-fails-to-welcome-air-force-one/#P4htmI3yufsIQ4zM.99

5. "ANKARA, Turkey (AP) —Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said he no longer holds "direct" telephone conversations with U.S. President Barak Obama,suggesting a rift between the leaders who were once close."Turkish PM says he Obama no longer talk directly - Yahoo News



6. "Turkey will refuse to allow a US-led coalition to attack jihadistsin neighbouring Iraq and Syria from its air bases, nor will it take part in combat operations against militants, a government official told AFP" Thursdayhttp://Breaking TURKEY REFUSES OBAMA REQUEST to Use Its Airbases to Fight ISIS The Gateway Pundit



7. “Obama is the weakest of U.S. presidents, he had humiliating defeats in the region. Under him the Islamic awakening happened,” Younesisaidin a Farsi language interview with Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency. “Americans witnessed their greatest defeats in Obama’s era: Terrorism expanded, [the] U.S. had huge defeats under Obama [and] that is why they want to compromise with Iran,” Younesi said.

The criticism of Obama echoes comments made recently byotherworld leaders and even former members of the president’s own staff,such asFormer Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Top Iranian Official: Obama is ‘The Weakest of U.S. Presidents’



8. "GUMMING UP THE WORKS: Obama blasted for chewing gum during visit with Indian prime minister
Obama, who has been caught before munching on gum during high-profile political events, was taken to task by the country’s largest newspaper after he was spotted taking a piece out of his mouth during the annual Republic Day parade."
Obama blasted for chewing gum during visit with Indian PM


9. "It would be one thing had the president brought in a successful test anywhere. But his — and Secretary of State Clinton’s — “reset” with Russia has been greeted with aggression from President Putin and his camarilla. The “pivot” to Asia has turned into a palsied pirouette and been unmasked as cover for fading from the Middle East. The redlines in Syria have been erased. Libya, Yemen, Venezuela are wrecks. Afghanistan is teetering to the Taliban, while Mr. Obama’s withdrawal has left Iraq at the mercy of Iran and the Islamic State."The Obama Doctrine


10. “Saudi Arabia and its Persian Gulf neighbors have been optimistic about Mr. Trump’s presidency, largely because of their deep frustration at what they called Mr. Obama’s refusal to forcefully engage in Middle Eastern issues like the war in Syria. They are encouraged by Mr. Trump’s business background, his lack of interest in human rights and, most importantly, his vow to take a hard line against Iran.

They were happy to see Obama go,” Bruce Riedel, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, said of the Saudis. Mr. Riedel said the kingdom had lost confidence in Mr. Obama "

Trump Meets Saudi Prince as U.S. and Kingdom Seek Warmer Relations





11. " Obama's administration has been working behind the scenes for months to forge a new working relationship with Russia, despite the fact that Russian President Vladimir Putin has shown little interest in repairing relations with Washington or halting his aggression in neighboring Ukraine." Inside Obama’s Secret Outreach to Russia


12. "Of course, the contempt that world leaders are expressing toward Barack Obama is partly the result of his lame duck status. But it is more than that: he is a widely detested lame duck, viewed by most as both arrogant and unreliable.

Remember the days when Obama promised us a smart foreign policy? Instead, he has thrown away our hard-fought victory in Iraq, strengthened Iran’s mullahs in a quixotic effort to form an alliance with them, and alienated our staunchest allies, like Great Britain and Israel, while abandoning others, like the Sunni Gulf States, all while accomplishing nothing. Small wonder that as he prepares to leave office, the predominant reaction around the world is, good riddance." Disrespecting Obama

13. How about the way the Brits spit in Obama’s eye in the Brexit vote:
“Backlash after Barack Obama EU referendum intervention” Backlash after Obama EU intervention

And….

14. The Israelis after Obama sent his minions to sink Netanyahu:

“Obama's shocking interference into Israel's election process The Obama presidential election team has set up camp in Tel Aviv with the mission to defeat Netanyahu in our upcoming election.” Obama's shocking interference into Israel's election process - Blogs - Jerusalem Post

Guess who they voted for.


15. “Give Trump credit for USA getting the World Cup

· …Former U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati. He said before President Obama was elected in 2008 that a Democratic president would give a U.S. World Cup bid the greatest chance of success.

· Obama came out strongly for the U.S. World Cup campaign for 2018 and 2022 as well, getting chummy with Sepp Blatter, writing letters to and meeting with the soccer politician – …. Russia got 2018 when it was decided that event would go to a European candidate and Qatar came from nowhere to steal away 2022, leaving Obama to receive a consolation phone call

· As this all relates to sports, scorecards are appropriate. And as much as Obama had charisma that stretched far beyond American borders, that never translated into votes for big athletic extravaganzas. On that front it’s Trump 2, Obama 0.

· Obama went to bat hard for his hometown of Chicago as it tried to stage the 2016 Olympics. He held an event on the White House lawn and flew to Copenhagen in an attempt to sway the vote, but the Windy City came last out of four candidates as the voters opted for Rio de Janeiro instead.” Give Trump credit for USA getting the World Cup





Don't bother wiping the egg off your face.....

....it's an improvement.

 

[polarbear]

According to the latest Gallup poll, NOBODY thinks global warming is our most important problem

That's because Americans are dumbasses. Hell, almost half of them voted for Trump.

Now go back and ask those same people if they're worried that future natural disasters are going to be more intense, more extreme, more costly and they will overwhelmingly say yes.

Climate change. Just depends on how you ask it.

Only failing models predict worse future disasters...observations show otherwise.

What are you looking at? I see longer, more severe droughts in the West and SouthWest. I see larger, more intense hurricanes in Texas, Louisiana, and Florida. I see storms like Superstorm Sandy do things to the NorthEast never seen before. Not to mention the typhoons in the Far East and the soaring temperatures across the U.S. and the world.

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But s0n....the whole point of the thread is, everybody is seeing what you are seeing. They're just not caring. I'm not getting why this is some kind of quantum concept to fathom? People like you tend to the hysterical on the weather/climate....most dont. What can you do?

The climate crusaders have been throwing bombs about us having to take action for 20 years

When we see beach chairs in the Arctic laden with bikini babes s0n, maybe then you'll have something!

Like I said, their reactions are exactly the same as those whose brains are infected by that toxoplasmosis parasite.

 

[skookerasbil]

Not one coherant response from a single climate crusader. And really, if you're on their side, your nutsack has basically been ripped off. Fucking A

 

[Confounding]

 

[skookerasbil]

That sure nails it!!! these bozos STILL think it's just a science debate! Fucking fascinating to me!!

 

[SSDD]

So true...as evidenced by post after post after post after post of shit from you without the first piece of actual evidence to support your claims. You are a prime example of a pigeon...Nothing to support you but hyperbole and logical fallacy and yet, you pretend that you have not been made a fool of. Good poster...now print it out and hang it up somewhere to remind you that it is best to be able to provide some actual evidence to support your position rather than spewing bullshit and strutting around like you won.

Remember, the person on the other side of the board realizes that it is a pigeon in front of him.

 

[Billy_Bob]

 

[PoliticalChic]

Speaking of idiots, you idiot.....check this out:

"Liberal Chris Hayes: I’d Like to Cover Climate Change, But It’s a 'Ratings Killer'
...Hayes admitted reality on Tuesday and tweeted that haranguing people about global warming is a “ratings killer.” This is the same man who once starred in an ad where he biked to work in order to save the planet. Now, he can’t be bothered."
Liberal Chris Hayes: I’d Like to Cover Climate Change, But It’s a 'Ratings Killer'



Hey, dunce....looks like you're the only one still beating that drum.


I love kicking dopes when they're down.

 

[skookerasbil]

Speaking of idiots, you idiot.....check this out:

"Liberal Chris Hayes: I’d Like to Cover Climate Change, But It’s a 'Ratings Killer'
...Hayes admitted reality on Tuesday and tweeted that haranguing people about global warming is a “ratings killer.” This is the same man who once starred in an ad where he biked to work in order to save the planet. Now, he can’t be bothered."
Liberal Chris Hayes: I’d Like to Cover Climate Change, But It’s a 'Ratings Killer'



Hey, dunce....looks like you're the only one still beating that drum.


I love kicking dopes when they're down.

Zucker at CNN said the same thing 5 years ago. Gilligan's Island re-runs draw more interest than stories on climate change!

 

[polarbear]

The only idiots who play chess with a pidgeon do it because it`s their only hope to win a chess game.

 

[SSDD]

Guess confounding finally got the message that he was being made a fool of and slinked off to wait for an opportunity to peddle the same old bullshit to someone else who may not be as well informed and susceptible to his lies.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It isn't as if you have to be a rocket scientist to understand climate science

You and I don't understand climate science as well as the global body of scientists that disagree with you. It's a nonstarter as I said earlier. You lack the credentials to tell me they're wrong.

Gads, you're a dunce.

The surest sign of ignorance is the use of ‘ 98% of scientists agree….

It is even more proof of duncism than having an “Obama/Biden” bumper sticker.




“… where did that famous “consensus” claim that “98% of all scientists believe in global warming” come from? It originated from an endlessly reported 2009 American Geophysical Union (AGU) survey consisting of an intentionally brief two-minute, two question online survey sent to 10,257 earth scientists by two researchers at the University of Illinois. Of the about 3,000 who responded, 82% answered “yes” to the second question, which like the first, most people I know would also have agreed with.

The first: “When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?”

The second question asked: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”

Then of those, only a small subset, just 77 who had been successful in getting more than half of their papers recently accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals, were considered in their survey statistic. That “98% all scientists” referred to a laughably puny number of 75 of those 77 who answered “yes”.
That Scientific Global Warming Consensus...Not!


77 out of 10,257 becomes 98%.

Yup…figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.




Oh….BTW….

“Since 1998, more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” Included are atmospheric physicists, botanists, geologists, oceanographers, and meteorologists.” Ibid.

 

[Confounding]

It isn't as if you have to be a rocket scientist to understand climate science

You and I don't understand climate science as well as the global body of scientists that disagree with you. It's a nonstarter as I said earlier. You lack the credentials to tell me they're wrong.

Gads, you're a dunce.

The surest sign of ignorance is the use of ‘ 98% of scientists agree….

It is even more dunce-proof than having an “Obama/Biden” bumper sticker.




“… where did that famous “consensus” claim that “98% of all scientists believe in global warming” come from? It originated from an endlessly reported 2009 American Geophysical Union (AGU) survey consisting of an intentionally brief two-minute, two question online survey sent to 10,257 earth scientists by two researchers at the University of Illinois. Of the about 3,000 who responded, 82% answered “yes” to the second question, which like the first, most people I know would also have agreed with.

The first: “When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?”

The second question asked: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”

Then of those, only a small subset, just 77 who had been successful in getting more than half of their papers recently accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals, were considered in their survey statistic. That “98% all scientists” referred to a laughably puny number of 75 of those 77 who answered “yes”.
That Scientific Global Warming Consensus...Not!


77 out of 10,257 becomes 98%.

Yup…figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.




Oh….BTW….

“Since 1998, more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” Included are atmospheric physicists, botanists, geologists, oceanographers, and meteorologists.” Ibid.

Scientific institutions all over the world are in agreement that man made climate change is real. Most first world countries are now taking measures to mitigate it. The most asinine thing you anti-science people do is try to talk back the consensus. If you want to keep insisting there isn't a powerful scientific consensus that's fine, but you're not dealing in reality. I know that doesn't normally bother you too much.

 

[Billy_Bob]

It isn't as if you have to be a rocket scientist to understand climate science

You and I don't understand climate science as well as the global body of scientists that disagree with you. It's a nonstarter as I said earlier. You lack the credentials to tell me they're wrong.

Gads, you're a dunce.

The surest sign of ignorance is the use of ‘ 98% of scientists agree….

It is even more dunce-proof than having an “Obama/Biden” bumper sticker.




“… where did that famous “consensus” claim that “98% of all scientists believe in global warming” come from? It originated from an endlessly reported 2009 American Geophysical Union (AGU) survey consisting of an intentionally brief two-minute, two question online survey sent to 10,257 earth scientists by two researchers at the University of Illinois. Of the about 3,000 who responded, 82% answered “yes” to the second question, which like the first, most people I know would also have agreed with.

The first: “When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?”

The second question asked: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”

Then of those, only a small subset, just 77 who had been successful in getting more than half of their papers recently accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals, were considered in their survey statistic. That “98% all scientists” referred to a laughably puny number of 75 of those 77 who answered “yes”.
That Scientific Global Warming Consensus...Not!


77 out of 10,257 becomes 98%.

Yup…figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.




Oh….BTW….

“Since 1998, more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” Included are atmospheric physicists, botanists, geologists, oceanographers, and meteorologists.” Ibid.

Legates Et Al 2013 exposed this pile of crap called the 97% consensuses.. Its amazing how they threw out over 10,647 papers that didn't fit their narrative keeping just 77 of them.. I guess the majority didn't matter to them..

 

[Billy_Bob]

It isn't as if you have to be a rocket scientist to understand climate science

You and I don't understand climate science as well as the global body of scientists that disagree with you. It's a nonstarter as I said earlier. You lack the credentials to tell me they're wrong.

Gads, you're a dunce.

The surest sign of ignorance is the use of ‘ 98% of scientists agree….

It is even more dunce-proof than having an “Obama/Biden” bumper sticker.




“… where did that famous “consensus” claim that “98% of all scientists believe in global warming” come from? It originated from an endlessly reported 2009 American Geophysical Union (AGU) survey consisting of an intentionally brief two-minute, two question online survey sent to 10,257 earth scientists by two researchers at the University of Illinois. Of the about 3,000 who responded, 82% answered “yes” to the second question, which like the first, most people I know would also have agreed with.

The first: “When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?”

The second question asked: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”

Then of those, only a small subset, just 77 who had been successful in getting more than half of their papers recently accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals, were considered in their survey statistic. That “98% all scientists” referred to a laughably puny number of 75 of those 77 who answered “yes”.
That Scientific Global Warming Consensus...Not!


77 out of 10,257 becomes 98%.

Yup…figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.




Oh….BTW….

“Since 1998, more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” Included are atmospheric physicists, botanists, geologists, oceanographers, and meteorologists.” Ibid.

Scientific institutions all over the world are in agreement that man made climate change is real. Most first world countries are now taking measures to mitigate it. The most asinine thing you anti-science people do is try to talk back the consensus. If you want to keep insisting there isn't a powerful scientific consensus that's fine, but you're not dealing in reality. I know that doesn't normally bother you too much.

There you go again using their POLITICAL statements as proof.. You really are a dupe...

 

[Confounding]

There you go again using their POLITICAL statements as proof.. You really are a dupe...

At least be honest enough to admit that your opinion is at odds with what most scientists are saying. How can you hope to have a real discussion when you won't even talk inside reality? Is it embarrassing to acknowledge that? If it is I understand; it should be embarrassing.

 

[Billy_Bob]

There you go again using their POLITICAL statements as proof.. You really are a dupe...

At least be honest enough to admit that your opinion is at odds with what most scientists are saying. How can you hope to have a real discussion when you won't even talk inside reality? Is it embarrassing to acknowledge that? If it is I understand; it should be embarrassing.

At odds?



You really are detached from reality. Most every scientists I know, including those who were recently convinced by observation and science, now openly question the AGW hypothesis. You no longer have any kind of consensus. The organizations which spout that their political views are their members are devoid of fact and refuse to place it to a vote of those they claim to represent. The AGU did exactly that and lost. It was massively embarrassing for them.

Good luck in your fantasy world.