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Looks Like Trump Is A Winner
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ABikerSailor
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Trump is a winner indeed. To be specific a winner who wins.
WTF has Trump "won" lately? If you are going to say his response to the virus is "winning", then you really don't understand English. Trump has been handling this situation very badly.
Wapasha
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Yup, and I suppose Fauci was lying when he said the virus was "a very low threat to the USA?" No? I see, just Trump is a liar when he paraphrases what the federal government's say, the very so called experts all you folks demanded Trump listen to.
Yanno, you guys keep pointing to what Fauci said at the beginning of this virus pandemic. When Fauci said that, we didn't know that much about the virus, and so he was trying to reassure the people at the beginning.
Yes, I know this. I have made the exact same point in defense of them.
However, when Trump repeated what the experts were telling him in early January, two months later Trump's opponents using 20/20 hindsight, used his words against him, to claim Trump was downplaying the virus.
Fauci and Birx's problem is that they suffer from hubris. They were well aware that they knew almost nothing about this virus. And yet they boldly and confidently went before the cameras acting as if they knew what the hell they were talking about. And our news media held up these people as if they were all knowing and God-like.As time went on, more about the virus was learned, which is why Fauci started to modify what he had said. And, eventually, it ended up hurting him because he was trying to tell what the virus actually did as we learned about it, and when it no longer fit Trump's narrative, he was thrown under the bus, and now all you Trumpettes are parroting what Trump is saying about Fauci and think that he should be fired.
Wapasha
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Nope, you're being to damn vague and obscure15 to 0. Ever hear that?Yup, and I suppose Fauci was lying when he said the virus was "a very low threat to the USA?" No? I see, just Trump is a liar when he paraphrases what the federal government's say, the very so called experts all you folks demanded Trump listen to.All proven liars and fake news....A Rawstory report?...you libtards really need to stop digging on the net...you are finding nothing but trash....find a news agency and dump the comic book sites will ya?....The "mis-information" winner, that is.
It's amazing, he beats social media and the MSM.
And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47 percent of Americans have identified the Trump administration as “the main source” of COVID-19 misinformation, while an additional seven percent identified the White House as the second-largest source of bad pandemic information."
Americans see Trump as the 'main source' of COVID-19 misinformation -- and it's not even close: poll
Whether he's falsely predicting that COVID-19 infections will soon plummet to zero or musing about treating the disease by injecting disinfectants, President Donald Trump has put out a great deal of misinformation about the pandemic.And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47...www.rawstory.com
Well, if you don't like Rawstory, how about some other links?
The Atlantic............................
All the President’s Lies About the Coronavirus
An unfinished compendium of Trump’s overwhelming dishonesty during a national emergencywww.theatlantic.com
The Guardian...................................
'It will disappear': the disinformation Trump spread about the coronavirus â timeline
The president was personally warned about the growing crisis beginning in mid-January – but continued to give false assurances to the American publicwww.theguardian.com
Factcheck.........................
Correcting Trump's Press Conference Misinformation - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump has been holding daily press conferences to provide the latest information about the coronavirus from the federal government, but his rhetoric has sometimes been imprecise, misleading or outright incorrect.www.factcheck.org
Axios.....................................
Trump and some top aides question accuracy of coronavirus death toll
He has suggested the real numbers are actually lower, according to sources with direct knowledge.www.axios.com
New York Times....................................
Trump’s Disinfectant Talk Trips Up Sites’ Vows Against Misinformation (Published 2020)
Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have declined to remove the president’s statements about unproven coronavirus treatments.www.nytimes.com
And interestingly enough, it wasn't that hard. I just typed in "Trump virus misinformation and got all those links. Just because you don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.All leftist propaganda TP sites.A Rawstory report?...you libtards really need to stop digging on the net...you are finding nothing but trash....find a news agency and dump the comic book sites will ya?....The "mis-information" winner, that is.
It's amazing, he beats social media and the MSM.
And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47 percent of Americans have identified the Trump administration as “the main source” of COVID-19 misinformation, while an additional seven percent identified the White House as the second-largest source of bad pandemic information."
Americans see Trump as the 'main source' of COVID-19 misinformation -- and it's not even close: poll
Whether he's falsely predicting that COVID-19 infections will soon plummet to zero or musing about treating the disease by injecting disinfectants, President Donald Trump has put out a great deal of misinformation about the pandemic.And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47...
Well, if you don't like Rawstory, how about some other links?
The Atlantic............................
All the President’s Lies About the Coronavirus
An unfinished compendium of Trump’s overwhelming dishonesty during a national emergency
The Guardian...................................
'It will disappear': the disinformation Trump spread about the coronavirus â timeline
The president was personally warned about the growing crisis beginning in mid-January – but continued to give false assurances to the American public
Factcheck.........................
Correcting Trump's Press Conference Misinformation - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump has been holding daily press conferences to provide the latest information about the coronavirus from the federal government, but his rhetoric has sometimes been imprecise, misleading or outright incorrect.
Axios.....................................
Trump and some top aides question accuracy of coronavirus death toll
He has suggested the real numbers are actually lower, according to sources with direct knowledge.
New York Times....................................
Trump’s Disinfectant Talk Trips Up Sites’ Vows Against Misinformation (Published 2020)
Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have declined to remove the president’s statements about unproven coronavirus treatments.
And interestingly enough, it wasn't that hard. I just typed in "Trump virus misinformation and got all those links. Just because you don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Again, just because you guys want to ignore what Trump is doing because it doesn't fit with your narrative of how he's doing, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And, not only was it reported, but there is also video of him saying all these things. Trump apparently doesn't realize that as president, everything he says in public is recorded. And, sometimes, what he says in private is leaked. Sorry, but he needs to realize that he can't keep lying and misinforming the public.
ABikerSailor
Diamond Member
Yup, and I suppose Fauci was lying when he said the virus was "a very low threat to the USA?" No? I see, just Trump is a liar when he paraphrases what the federal government's say, the very so called experts all you folks demanded Trump listen to.
Yanno, you guys keep pointing to what Fauci said at the beginning of this virus pandemic. When Fauci said that, we didn't know that much about the virus, and so he was trying to reassure the people at the beginning.
Yes, I know this. I have made the exact same point in defense of them.
However, when Trump repeated what the experts were telling him in early January, two months later Trump's opponents using 20/20 hindsight, used his words against him, to claim Trump was downplaying the virus.
Fauci and Birx's problem is that they suffer from hubris. They were well aware that they knew almost nothing about this virus. And yet they boldly and confidently went before the cameras acting as if they knew what the hell they were talking about. And our news media held up these people as if they were all knowing and God-like.As time went on, more about the virus was learned, which is why Fauci started to modify what he had said. And, eventually, it ended up hurting him because he was trying to tell what the virus actually did as we learned about it, and when it no longer fit Trump's narrative, he was thrown under the bus, and now all you Trumpettes are parroting what Trump is saying about Fauci and think that he should be fired.
You're right, they were reassuring before we knew much about this virus, but, as more information came out, and doctors around the world were researching and investigating, that is when they started to tell what they knew, but because it countered what Trump had already been spewing, that is why Trump is throwing him under the bus.
I also find it interesting that after the 2 staffers at the WH tested positive, the only people we hear about going into self quarantine are the people who are supposed to be the experts on the virus. I wonder if Trump told them to self quarantine to shut them up?
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I've lost faith and respect for 90% of news today.....do you blame me?....hell it looks as if the media was in on the framing of General Flynn...a bunch of liberal arts graduates working to destroy a decorated general.....it makes me sick....so when a story breaks whether its a pro Trump story or a hate Trump story I wait a few weeks for the real truth to be discovered...and Marc that has served me well the last 3 years...remember I was the one that said Flynn will walk...and libs found thousands of links to show me I was wrong....whoops!....they were the wrong ones....List the acceptable sites to your fragile rightwing sensibilities.A Rawstory report?...you libtards really need to stop digging on the net...you are finding nothing but trash....find a news agency and dump the comic book sites will ya?....
Billiejeens
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All proven liars and fake news....A Rawstory report?...you libtards really need to stop digging on the net...you are finding nothing but trash....find a news agency and dump the comic book sites will ya?....The "mis-information" winner, that is.
It's amazing, he beats social media and the MSM.
And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47 percent of Americans have identified the Trump administration as “the main source” of COVID-19 misinformation, while an additional seven percent identified the White House as the second-largest source of bad pandemic information."
Americans see Trump as the 'main source' of COVID-19 misinformation -- and it's not even close: poll
Whether he's falsely predicting that COVID-19 infections will soon plummet to zero or musing about treating the disease by injecting disinfectants, President Donald Trump has put out a great deal of misinformation about the pandemic.And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47...
Well, if you don't like Rawstory, how about some other links?
The Atlantic............................
All the President’s Lies About the Coronavirus
An unfinished compendium of Trump’s overwhelming dishonesty during a national emergency
The Guardian...................................
'It will disappear': the disinformation Trump spread about the coronavirus â timeline
The president was personally warned about the growing crisis beginning in mid-January – but continued to give false assurances to the American public
Factcheck.........................
Correcting Trump's Press Conference Misinformation - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump has been holding daily press conferences to provide the latest information about the coronavirus from the federal government, but his rhetoric has sometimes been imprecise, misleading or outright incorrect.
Axios.....................................
Trump and some top aides question accuracy of coronavirus death toll
He has suggested the real numbers are actually lower, according to sources with direct knowledge.
New York Times....................................
Trump’s Disinfectant Talk Trips Up Sites’ Vows Against Misinformation (Published 2020)
Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have declined to remove the president’s statements about unproven coronavirus treatments.
And interestingly enough, it wasn't that hard. I just typed in "Trump virus misinformation and got all those links. Just because you don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
They don't even make it a challenge.
okfine
Diamond Member
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15 to zero. Trump's words. Do a search and become informed.Nope, you're being to damn vague and obscure15 to 0. Ever hear that?Yup, and I suppose Fauci was lying when he said the virus was "a very low threat to the USA?" No? I see, just Trump is a liar when he paraphrases what the federal government's say, the very so called experts all you folks demanded Trump listen to.All proven liars and fake news....A Rawstory report?...you libtards really need to stop digging on the net...you are finding nothing but trash....find a news agency and dump the comic book sites will ya?....The "mis-information" winner, that is.
It's amazing, he beats social media and the MSM.
And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47 percent of Americans have identified the Trump administration as “the main source” of COVID-19 misinformation, while an additional seven percent identified the White House as the second-largest source of bad pandemic information."
Americans see Trump as the 'main source' of COVID-19 misinformation -- and it's not even close: poll
Whether he's falsely predicting that COVID-19 infections will soon plummet to zero or musing about treating the disease by injecting disinfectants, President Donald Trump has put out a great deal of misinformation about the pandemic.And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47...
Well, if you don't like Rawstory, how about some other links?
The Atlantic............................
All the President’s Lies About the Coronavirus
An unfinished compendium of Trump’s overwhelming dishonesty during a national emergency
The Guardian...................................
'It will disappear': the disinformation Trump spread about the coronavirus â timeline
The president was personally warned about the growing crisis beginning in mid-January – but continued to give false assurances to the American public
Factcheck.........................
Correcting Trump's Press Conference Misinformation - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump has been holding daily press conferences to provide the latest information about the coronavirus from the federal government, but his rhetoric has sometimes been imprecise, misleading or outright incorrect.
Axios.....................................
Trump and some top aides question accuracy of coronavirus death toll
He has suggested the real numbers are actually lower, according to sources with direct knowledge.
New York Times....................................
Trump’s Disinfectant Talk Trips Up Sites’ Vows Against Misinformation (Published 2020)
Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have declined to remove the president’s statements about unproven coronavirus treatments.
And interestingly enough, it wasn't that hard. I just typed in "Trump virus misinformation and got all those links. Just because you don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.All leftist propaganda TP sites.A Rawstory report?...you libtards really need to stop digging on the net...you are finding nothing but trash....find a news agency and dump the comic book sites will ya?....The "mis-information" winner, that is.
It's amazing, he beats social media and the MSM.
And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47 percent of Americans have identified the Trump administration as “the main source” of COVID-19 misinformation, while an additional seven percent identified the White House as the second-largest source of bad pandemic information."
Americans see Trump as the 'main source' of COVID-19 misinformation -- and it's not even close: poll
Whether he's falsely predicting that COVID-19 infections will soon plummet to zero or musing about treating the disease by injecting disinfectants, President Donald Trump has put out a great deal of misinformation about the pandemic.And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47...
Well, if you don't like Rawstory, how about some other links?
The Atlantic............................
All the President’s Lies About the Coronavirus
An unfinished compendium of Trump’s overwhelming dishonesty during a national emergency
The Guardian...................................
'It will disappear': the disinformation Trump spread about the coronavirus â timeline
The president was personally warned about the growing crisis beginning in mid-January – but continued to give false assurances to the American public
Factcheck.........................
Correcting Trump's Press Conference Misinformation - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump has been holding daily press conferences to provide the latest information about the coronavirus from the federal government, but his rhetoric has sometimes been imprecise, misleading or outright incorrect.
Axios.....................................
Trump and some top aides question accuracy of coronavirus death toll
He has suggested the real numbers are actually lower, according to sources with direct knowledge.
New York Times....................................
Trump’s Disinfectant Talk Trips Up Sites’ Vows Against Misinformation (Published 2020)
Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have declined to remove the president’s statements about unproven coronavirus treatments.
And interestingly enough, it wasn't that hard. I just typed in "Trump virus misinformation and got all those links. Just because you don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Again, just because you guys want to ignore what Trump is doing because it doesn't fit with your narrative of how he's doing, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And, not only was it reported, but there is also video of him saying all these things. Trump apparently doesn't realize that as president, everything he says in public is recorded. And, sometimes, what he says in private is leaked. Sorry, but he needs to realize that he can't keep lying and misinforming the public.
ABikerSailor
Diamond Member
15 to zero. Trump's words. Do a search and become informed.
My favorite one was when he said that it was going to "go away, like a miracle".
Wapasha
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Trump received his talking points from Fauci. And yes, Fauci regularly countered his own talking points a few weeks later. Trump did not throw Fauci under the bus, Fauci's own words regularly threw himself under the bus.Yup, and I suppose Fauci was lying when he said the virus was "a very low threat to the USA?" No? I see, just Trump is a liar when he paraphrases what the federal government's say, the very so called experts all you folks demanded Trump listen to.
Yanno, you guys keep pointing to what Fauci said at the beginning of this virus pandemic. When Fauci said that, we didn't know that much about the virus, and so he was trying to reassure the people at the beginning.
Yes, I know this. I have made the exact same point in defense of them.
However, when Trump repeated what the experts were telling him in early January, two months later Trump's opponents using 20/20 hindsight, used his words against him, to claim Trump was downplaying the virus.
Fauci and Birx's problem is that they suffer from hubris. They were well aware that they knew almost nothing about this virus. And yet they boldly and confidently went before the cameras acting as if they knew what the hell they were talking about. And our news media held up these people as if they were all knowing and God-like.As time went on, more about the virus was learned, which is why Fauci started to modify what he had said. And, eventually, it ended up hurting him because he was trying to tell what the virus actually did as we learned about it, and when it no longer fit Trump's narrative, he was thrown under the bus, and now all you Trumpettes are parroting what Trump is saying about Fauci and think that he should be fired.
You're right, they were reassuring before we knew much about this virus, but, as more information came out, and doctors around the world were researching and investigating, that is when they started to tell what they knew, but because it countered what Trump had already been spewing, that is why Trump is throwing him under the bus.
I also find it interesting that after the 2 staffers at the WH tested positive, the only people we hear about going into self quarantine are the people who are supposed to be the experts on the virus. I wonder if Trump told them to self quarantine to shut them up?
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Wapasha
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Wow, that is grbbing at straws. What Trump said was an optimistic opinion about what he thinks will happen to the virus one day in the future. But I suppose that to you, it qualifies as a lie. Once we discover a vaccine, and enough people have the antigen, then hopefully it will go away.15 to zero. Trump's words. Do a search and become informed.
My favorite one was when he said that it was going to "go away, like a miracle".
ABikerSailor
Diamond Member
Wow, that is grbbing at straws. What Trump said was an optimistic opinion about what he thinks will happen to the virus one day in the future. But I suppose that to you, it qualifies as a lie. Once we discover a vaccine, and enough people have the antigen, then hopefully it will go away.15 to zero. Trump's words. Do a search and become informed.
My favorite one was when he said that it was going to "go away, like a miracle".
Listen, I spent 20 years of my life in the Navy, and one of the hallmarks of good leadership was for them to tell you exactly what the situation was. Not dressing it up in hopeful bullshit, or scaring the crap out of people with a worst case scenario, but actually what was happening.
People who were overly optimistic in their assessments of situations weren't very good at their jobs.
Wapasha
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I spent 22 years in the Corps, two of those years aboard a carrier. And do not tell me you did not have to sit thru speeches by captains and admirals where they spoke optimistically about what the ship, or your unit was going to be able to achieve.Wow, that is grbbing at straws. What Trump said was an optimistic opinion about what he thinks will happen to the virus one day in the future. But I suppose that to you, it qualifies as a lie. Once we discover a vaccine, and enough people have the antigen, then hopefully it will go away.15 to zero. Trump's words. Do a search and become informed.
My favorite one was when he said that it was going to "go away, like a miracle".
Listen, I spent 20 years of my life in the Navy, and one of the hallmarks of good leadership was for them to tell you exactly what the situation was. Not dressing it up in hopeful bullshit, or scaring the crap out of people with a worst case scenario, but actually what was happening.
People who were overly optimistic in their assessments of situations weren't very good at their jobs.
Wapasha
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Not sunlight, UV light. How would you inject sunlight?Trump was obviously referring to injecting Ultra Violet light, since the doctors were discussing the effects of UV light / sunlight. We already inject UV light into patient's ventilator tubes to kill virus and bacteria.
Really? He was talking about injecting sunlight? How in the hell would you do that? Sunlight is made up of photons and various types of rays, neither of which have mass, so how in the hell are you going to get them in a syringe and inject them?
Science 101, sunlight contains UV light.
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The "mis-information" winner, that is.
It's amazing, he beats social media and the MSM.
And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47 percent of Americans have identified the Trump administration as “the main source” of COVID-19 misinformation, while an additional seven percent identified the White House as the second-largest source of bad pandemic information."
Americans see Trump as the 'main source' of COVID-19 misinformation -- and it's not even close: poll
Whether he's falsely predicting that COVID-19 infections will soon plummet to zero or musing about treating the disease by injecting disinfectants, President Donald Trump has put out a great deal of misinformation about the pandemic.And now a new poll from the Knight Foundation reveals that 47...
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