Mail-In Voting, Revisited?

[Zincwarrior]

Granny qualifies for absentee

THATS MAIL IN VOTING.

 

[BrokeLoser]

RightTard logic

The more convenient voting is, the more people will vote
More people vote, less vote for Republicans

Therefore, prevent as many people as possible from voting

Such logic built the greatest nation the world had ever known in just a short 150 years.
High quality voters build high quality nations.

LefTard Logic:
”Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have built their businesses by doing it all wrong….they should change their course based on what Americas lowest grade and most degenerate want.”

 

[rightwinger]

No

So I work all day and get home at 6:30
I rush to the voting place and there is a line out the door to the parking lot.

That is your concept of Democracy?

 

[ThisIsMe]

It is easy to prove fraud with mail in votes

Ballot not linked to a registered voter
Ballot signature doesn’t match
More mail in votes than registered voters
A person showing up to vote and finding someone had already voted for them


Doesn’t happen

Except like the first 3 on your list did happen..I’m sure there were cases of the 4th one as well.

 

[rightwinger]

Such logic built the greatest nation the world had ever known in just a short 150 years.
High quality voters build high quality nations.

LefTard Logic:
”Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have built their businesses by doing it all wrong….they should change their course based on what Americas lowest grade and most degenerate want.”

Conservatives fear Democracy

The best way to stop Democracy is to breed mistrust in the voting process, make it more difficult to vote, find ways to dismiss voters.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Pa. is rolling out new mail ballot instructions to cut down on the number of rejected ballots

Gov. Josh Shapiro’s administration said Wednesday that it would overhaul the materials and instructions that accompany mail ballots in Pennsylvania, an effort to cut down on the number that are rejected because voters make errors.

www.post-gazette.com

The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, where I reside, is rolling out new instructions for mail-in voting in order to reduce the number of rejected ballots due to people's failure to follow simple instructions, or just plain stupidity.

But why do we still have mail-in voting? The reason for it was the Pandemic, which is no longer a factor. Almost no other civilized country allows mail-in voting because it is manifestly an invitation to fraud.

Recall the pictures of voters in Iraq after "we" first liberated it: they had to vote in person, and one of their fingers was dipped in indelible ink to signify unambiguously that this person had voted, and to prevent the fraud of multiple votes by a single person. Do you think they could have had a fair and legitimate election if they allowed mail-in's? Hell no. Mail-in is like asking people to commit fraud.

Much of the turmoil surrounding the 2020 election was the widespread belief that mail-in voting along with its incidental practices (insecure lock-boxes, mandatory outer envelopes with mandatory markings, etc.) resulted in massive, UNPROVABLE fraud, and resulted in a zombie being elected President of the United States. Indeed, few people with three-digit IQ's doubt that if the same procedures had existed in 2020 that did in 2016, Trump would have won in a landslide.

Mail-in voting invites manipulation such as was documented in the film, "2000 Mules," and facilitates the votes of people who lack the intelligence and capacity to show up at the Polls on Election Day and cast their fucking votes (legitimate Absentee voters aside). Are these additional voters the ones whom we want to control the outcome of elections? Clearly, the Democrats want the votes of these incompetents, because virtually all of them vote Democrat, for one reason or another (manipulation).

Seriously, it's about time that the nation's REAL voters spoke up and demanded that we go back to the rules of 2016 because there is no legitimate reason to deviate from them, and because frankly speaking, mail-in voting is recognized the world over as an invitation to fraud.

No no, this is no time to tighten up voting laws..we need them to be the same as they were for 2020, so the republicans can do the same things dems did during that election..

VEVO!

 

[rightwinger]

Except like the first 3 on your list did happen..I’m sure there were cases of the 4th one as well.

In which case the ballot was not accepted

Can you show actual voter fraud on any significant scale?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Will it be okay if I throw a Trump mail in voter party? Everyone that shows up with their mail in ballet completed for Trump (preferably republican steak ticket) will get a steak dinner and drinks at my party. The ballets will be collected at the party to be delivered to the post office.

Is this legal?

Somehow, I don't think so.

Not a thing wrong in the world with that. I suggest holding the party at an old folks home, have bingo and prizes and a special contest for the person who can get the most people to vote for trump!

VEVO!

 

[ThisIsMe]

In which case the ballot was not accepted

Can you show actual voter fraud on any significant scale?

“Significant scale”. There’s the goal post moved.

Tell you what, how much voter fraud is acceptable in your book?

 

[Rawley]

Is not wanting to stand in a lengthy line a valid reason?

Nope

 

[Zincwarrior]

Conservatives fear Democracy

The best way to stop Democracy is to breed mistrust in the voting process, make it more difficult to vote, find ways to dismiss voters.

Then the revolution comes.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

“Significant scale”. There’s the goal post moved.

Tell you what, how much voter fraud is acceptable in your book?

Just a little in every voting precinct...

 

[forkup]

LefTard Logic:
”Mail in voting must become the primary method used for voting…it assures us that more filthy pieces of worthless dogshit will get their vote in and we all know ALL filthy pieces of worthless dogshit vote Democrat…We all also know that filthy pieces of worthless dogshit build great communities, cities, states and nations through voting….look at Los Angeles, NYC, Chicago, Detroit, St Louis, Baltimore, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, New Orleans, Indianapolis…etc etc.”

Yes, in a Democracy it is preferable to have as many of it's citizens as possible participate in electing it's leaders.

You are obviously of the opinion that only those that agree with you personally should be allowed to vote. That's fine.

At least when someone openly advocates for an autocracy it's clear where they stand.

 

[Rawley]

In which case the ballot was not accepted

Can you show actual voter fraud on any significant scale?

How many people get cited for littering in a year? Are you going to argue there is no littering in this country becasue virtually no one gets cited?

 

[Rawley]

Just a little in every voting precinct...

particularly when more and more elections are coming down to this:

MSN

 

[WorldWatcher]

Much more convenient.

I just wish they had more drop box locations

There are plenty.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

So what's to keep anyone from counting the same ballots multiple times, especially when people were kicked out of polling stations and counting took place without anyone else being able to observe?

This is incorrect, ballots are counted under observation by members of both parties.

You are talking about ONE instance in GA where some of the election workers were released for the night and the observers took it upon themselves to leave. They were actually welcome to stay until everyone left. Even then observers are allowed to observe, they are not required to observe (under GA law).

It took a very small number of inner city districts to decide the last election.

Also, barcoding would have nothing to do with who's vote it was, so that's baseless.

Because we have these things called computers. When a voter is issued a ballot it is logged (whether that be mail-in package, or in-person check-in). They know exactly how many ballots where issued, and they know exactly how many ballots were counted.

If you have 1,000,000 (ballots issued) and 1,500,000 (counted) - then that will flag as a major problem in the post initial count audits. It would trigger a recount under even higher scrutiny and there is no way the multiple ballots would be counted multiple times as ballots are segregated into batches, and batches are a defined quantity.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Or, counting an in-person vote then later a Mail-in ballot is also counted for the same person.

If a person voted in-person and then a mail-in ballot is received coded to that person, the mail-in ballot is rejected.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Grandma has a valid reason for an absentee ballot, try harder.

And in Virginia, Grandma doesn't have to have a reason, just that is her preferred method.

(There is no difference in the processing of no-excuse and excuse mail-in votes.)

WW

 

[BrokeLoser]

Yes, in a Democracy it is preferable to have as many of it's citizens as possible participate in electing it's leaders.

You are obviously of the opinion that only those that agree with you personally should be allowed to vote. That's fine.

At least when someone openly advocates for an autocracy it's clear where they stand.

We are a Republic and not a democracy.
Why do you think our founders only wanted citizens with skin in the game to vote? What do you think happens to a nation when the piece of shits among us outnumber us good folks?