Making my case

[Ice29]

Yes it the governments job to tell people what they can and cant do with a Government document, which money is.
And why should the government let people blow it on slots and not be able to support the economy ?

Yes it the governments job to tell people what they can and cant do with a Government document, which money is

Nope. My money is my money, not the government's.

Its not your money unless it says Toddsterpatriot's Dollar.

The government makes FRNs legal tender and so has complete control over them? LOL!

Sorry, no Constitutional justification for your fantasy.

My money, so fuck off, thank you very much.

The Constitution gives the Government the right to Regulate currency and Commerce.
So you fuck off, since you want to use that language.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Sorry, nothing about the government having the right to tell me what I can or can't do with my FRNs.
So, fuck off, you ignorant ass.

To regulate commerce means to regulate commerce, that means it can decide what is legal and what isn't, and it already does.
You ignorant ass.

 

[Ice29]

btw, yes the Government should outlaw investing in the stock market.
It creates an environment where the incentive is to pay the stockholders who want more money, and not the labor that has themselves and /or their families to support.

 

[sonic]

There are many, many, paths to self-destruction.
Should the government outlaw investing in the stock market? Certainly that is gambling.
Should the government outlaw alcohol? Surely that has led to addictive types destroying their lives.
Cash flow does not ruin the economy. People gamble which in turn pays salaries, which in turn flows to other businesses through purchases of goods and services.
The government is not in the business of legislating your definition of good family recreation. If you don't want to gamble, don't do it.
Just to be clear, I am not a gambler, at least by your definition.

Giving up your money and getting it back, and not buying anything physical with ruins the economy.

That's based on a flawed assumption that everyone breaks even and the cash flow is limited to gambling. That's not how it works.

 

[Ice29]

There are many, many, paths to self-destruction.
Should the government outlaw investing in the stock market? Certainly that is gambling.
Should the government outlaw alcohol? Surely that has led to addictive types destroying their lives.
Cash flow does not ruin the economy. People gamble which in turn pays salaries, which in turn flows to other businesses through purchases of goods and services.
The government is not in the business of legislating your definition of good family recreation. If you don't want to gamble, don't do it.
Just to be clear, I am not a gambler, at least by your definition.

Giving up your money and getting it back, and not buying anything physical with ruins the economy.

That's based on a flawed assumption that everyone breaks even and the cash flow is limited to gambling. That's not how it works.

when you lose your money what else can you buy after your money is all gone ?
And the economy is bigger than you and we're all tied to it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes it the governments job to tell people what they can and cant do with a Government document, which money is

Nope. My money is my money, not the government's.

Its not your money unless it says Toddsterpatriot's Dollar.

The government makes FRNs legal tender and so has complete control over them? LOL!

Sorry, no Constitutional justification for your fantasy.

My money, so fuck off, thank you very much.

The Constitution gives the Government the right to Regulate currency and Commerce.
So you fuck off, since you want to use that language.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Sorry, nothing about the government having the right to tell me what I can or can't do with my FRNs.
So, fuck off, you ignorant ass.

To regulate commerce means to regulate commerce, that means it can decide what is legal and what isn't, and it already does.
You ignorant ass.

Anyone who thinks the government can or should control all the money in the economy because money is "a government document" can fuck right off.

 

[sonic]

btw, yes the Government should outlaw investing in the stock market.
It creates an environment where the incentive is to pay the stockholders who want more money, and not the labor that has themselves and /or their families to support.

You're joking, right? I thought you were worried about the economy and now you want to completely destroy it by making it illegal to invest in America's businesses? You're out of your depth my friend

 

[Ice29]

Its not your money unless it says Toddsterpatriot's Dollar.

The government makes FRNs legal tender and so has complete control over them? LOL!

Sorry, no Constitutional justification for your fantasy.

My money, so fuck off, thank you very much.

The Constitution gives the Government the right to Regulate currency and Commerce.
So you fuck off, since you want to use that language.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Sorry, nothing about the government having the right to tell me what I can or can't do with my FRNs.
So, fuck off, you ignorant ass.

To regulate commerce means to regulate commerce, that means it can decide what is legal and what isn't, and it already does.
You ignorant ass.

Anyone who thinks the government can or should control all the money in the economy because money is "a government document" can fuck right off.

No, what you can do is fuck right off.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The government makes FRNs legal tender and so has complete control over them? LOL!

Sorry, no Constitutional justification for your fantasy.

My money, so fuck off, thank you very much.

The Constitution gives the Government the right to Regulate currency and Commerce.
So you fuck off, since you want to use that language.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Sorry, nothing about the government having the right to tell me what I can or can't do with my FRNs.
So, fuck off, you ignorant ass.

To regulate commerce means to regulate commerce, that means it can decide what is legal and what isn't, and it already does.
You ignorant ass.

Anyone who thinks the government can or should control all the money in the economy because money is "a government document" can fuck right off.

No, what you can do is fuck right off.

Says the big government idiot. Durr.

 

[Ice29]

The Constitution gives the Government the right to Regulate currency and Commerce.
So you fuck off, since you want to use that language.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Sorry, nothing about the government having the right to tell me what I can or can't do with my FRNs.
So, fuck off, you ignorant ass.

To regulate commerce means to regulate commerce, that means it can decide what is legal and what isn't, and it already does.
You ignorant ass.

Anyone who thinks the government can or should control all the money in the economy because money is "a government document" can fuck right off.

No, what you can do is fuck right off.

Says the big government idiot. Durr.

I also love how every time there is a big government to make things work, things do work, and every time conholes with their "small government" allows people to make a mess, things become a mess.
lol

 

[Ice29]

btw, yes the Government should outlaw investing in the stock market.
It creates an environment where the incentive is to pay the stockholders who want more money, and not the labor that has themselves and /or their families to support.

You're joking, right? I thought you were worried about the economy and now you want to completely destroy it by making it illegal to invest in America's businesses? You're out of your depth my friend

Investing in America's businesses = buying things.
Robbing the Public = Taking unearned money from businesses, instead of paying the workers.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Sorry, nothing about the government having the right to tell me what I can or can't do with my FRNs.
So, fuck off, you ignorant ass.

To regulate commerce means to regulate commerce, that means it can decide what is legal and what isn't, and it already does.
You ignorant ass.

Anyone who thinks the government can or should control all the money in the economy because money is "a government document" can fuck right off.

No, what you can do is fuck right off.

Says the big government idiot. Durr.

I also love how every time there is a big government to make things work, things do work, and every time conholes with their "small government" allows people to make a mess, things become a mess.
lol

Ah, yes, how's that big government working in Venezuela?
They don't need to outlaw gambling, they can't even buy toilet paper.
Yup, no small government making a mess there. Durr.

 

[Ice29]

To regulate commerce means to regulate commerce, that means it can decide what is legal and what isn't, and it already does.
You ignorant ass.

Anyone who thinks the government can or should control all the money in the economy because money is "a government document" can fuck right off.

No, what you can do is fuck right off.

Says the big government idiot. Durr.

I also love how every time there is a big government to make things work, things do work, and every time conholes with their "small government" allows people to make a mess, things become a mess.
lol

Ah, yes, how's that big government working in Venezuela?
They don't need to outlaw gambling, they can't even buy toilet paper.
Yup, no small government making a mess there. Durr.

The fair question is how well it has done in America in the 1990s and the 40s and 1950s, and in Europe since the end of world war 2... and Australia and New Zealand and Canada.
The fact is its working out great.

However at no time have the people who live and work in casino towns, nor have gamblers been doing well because its an unsustainable business.

 

[SmokeALib]

I disapprove of gambling myself, but it's not the government's place, or yours, to tell people what to do with their money. If they wanna blow it all on slots, let them.

Yes it the governments job to tell people what they can and cant do with a Government document, which money is.
And why should the government let people blow it on slots and not be able to support the economy ?

Lol so money is government documents so the government can tell me how to spend or not spend the fruit of my labor?
Here's a thought - kiss my ass dickweed.

 

[Ice29]

I disapprove of gambling myself, but it's not the government's place, or yours, to tell people what to do with their money. If they wanna blow it all on slots, let them.

Yes it the governments job to tell people what they can and cant do with a Government document, which money is.
And why should the government let people blow it on slots and not be able to support the economy ?

Lol so money is government documents so the government can tell me how to spend or not spend the fruit if my labor?
Here's a thought - kiss my ass dickweed.

Yes because money is a government document it has to the right to regulate it and it already does, though not quite enough.
So kiss my ass CONweed.
lol

 

[SmokeALib]

I disapprove of gambling myself, but it's not the government's place, or yours, to tell people what to do with their money. If they wanna blow it all on slots, let them.

Yes it the governments job to tell people what they can and cant do with a Government document, which money is.
And why should the government let people blow it on slots and not be able to support the economy ?

Lol so money is government documents so the government can tell me how to spend or not spend the fruit if my labor?
Here's a thought - kiss my ass dickweed.

Yes because money is a government document it has to the right to regulate it and it already does, though not quite enough.
So kiss my ass CONweed.
lol

Dumfuck move to fucking Greece or Venezuela stupid ass.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Anyone who thinks the government can or should control all the money in the economy because money is "a government document" can fuck right off.

No, what you can do is fuck right off.

Says the big government idiot. Durr.

I also love how every time there is a big government to make things work, things do work, and every time conholes with their "small government" allows people to make a mess, things become a mess.
lol

Ah, yes, how's that big government working in Venezuela?
They don't need to outlaw gambling, they can't even buy toilet paper.
Yup, no small government making a mess there. Durr.

The fair question is how well it has done in America in the 1990s and the 40s and 1950s, and in Europe since the end of world war 2... and Australia and New Zealand and Canada.
The fact is its working out great.

However at no time have the people who live and work in casino towns, nor have gamblers been doing well because its an unsustainable business.

It's done well enough without giving the government power over all the money.
Sorry you hate gambling, don't do it.

 

[Ice29]

No, what you can do is fuck right off.

Says the big government idiot. Durr.

I also love how every time there is a big government to make things work, things do work, and every time conholes with their "small government" allows people to make a mess, things become a mess.
lol

Ah, yes, how's that big government working in Venezuela?
They don't need to outlaw gambling, they can't even buy toilet paper.
Yup, no small government making a mess there. Durr.

The fair question is how well it has done in America in the 1990s and the 40s and 1950s, and in Europe since the end of world war 2... and Australia and New Zealand and Canada.
The fact is its working out great.

However at no time have the people who live and work in casino towns, nor have gamblers been doing well because its an unsustainable business.

It's done well enough without giving the government power over all the money.
Sorry you hate gambling, don't do it.

And it would do even better if activities that are nothing but a trash can for the money earned by hard workers, were banned.

The games themselves isn't the issue.
The money that people work for, and charge for goods and services, that can't be paid because it is in a trash can, is the problem.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Says the big government idiot. Durr.

I also love how every time there is a big government to make things work, things do work, and every time conholes with their "small government" allows people to make a mess, things become a mess.
lol

Ah, yes, how's that big government working in Venezuela?
They don't need to outlaw gambling, they can't even buy toilet paper.
Yup, no small government making a mess there. Durr.

The fair question is how well it has done in America in the 1990s and the 40s and 1950s, and in Europe since the end of world war 2... and Australia and New Zealand and Canada.
The fact is its working out great.

However at no time have the people who live and work in casino towns, nor have gamblers been doing well because its an unsustainable business.

It's done well enough without giving the government power over all the money.
Sorry you hate gambling, don't do it.

And it would do even better if activities that are nothing but a trash can for the money earned by hard workers, were banned.

The games themselves isn't the issue.
The money that people work for, and charge for goods and services, that can't be paid because it is in a trash can, is the problem.

Freedom means people are free to do things that you think are stupid.

 

[Ice29]

I also love how every time there is a big government to make things work, things do work, and every time conholes with their "small government" allows people to make a mess, things become a mess.
lol

Ah, yes, how's that big government working in Venezuela?
They don't need to outlaw gambling, they can't even buy toilet paper.
Yup, no small government making a mess there. Durr.

The fair question is how well it has done in America in the 1990s and the 40s and 1950s, and in Europe since the end of world war 2... and Australia and New Zealand and Canada.
The fact is its working out great.

However at no time have the people who live and work in casino towns, nor have gamblers been doing well because its an unsustainable business.

It's done well enough without giving the government power over all the money.
Sorry you hate gambling, don't do it.

And it would do even better if activities that are nothing but a trash can for the money earned by hard workers, were banned.

The games themselves isn't the issue.
The money that people work for, and charge for goods and services, that can't be paid because it is in a trash can, is the problem.

Freedom means people are free to do things that you think are stupid.

And people in America don't have Economic freedom, we have laws created by the Government for an economy, so your argument is a strawman.

Being stupid with yourself and being that with our economy are two different animals.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Sometimes people have to be protected from themselves

Sometimes people need to fall flat on their face. Not the place of government to coddle them.

And when people fall flat on their face, society does too.

Lies.