Man shoots 14 year old son

Stairs are sure necessary if you have a two story house, and we have lots of them. How do you elimate two stories in crowded areas? Many cities have neighborhoods filled with them and small yards.

How do you eliminate lakes and oceans? Very young children do not take showers.

Now getting rid of guns, that would be easy by comparison. Most wouldn't even notice. Are you not getting it yet?

No you're the one not getting it

You are never going to eliminate guns

but you go ahead and try

It does seem like people will always be buying "protection" that often kills them or their family.

Often?

Accidental gun deaths are actually quire rare

considering there are over 100 million people who own guns and about 600 accidental gun deaths per year that's .0006% of gun owners involved in an accidental death

If only everything had such a stellar safety record
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.

Sorry but you're wrong

in 2015 41% of US households surveyed said they had a gun
now how many of those that had a gun said they didn't?

There are about 125 million households. So your number is stupidly wrong.
 
second floors are not necessary

the abundance of single level dwellings tells us this

and I specifically mentioned swimming pools not lakes and rivers

and one does not need a tub as showers are always an option

Stairs are sure necessary if you have a two story house, and we have lots of them. How do you elimate two stories in crowded areas? Many cities have neighborhoods filled with them and small yards.

How do you eliminate lakes and oceans? Very young children do not take showers.

Now getting rid of guns, that would be easy by comparison. Most wouldn't even notice. Are you not getting it yet?

No you're the one not getting it

You are never going to eliminate guns

but you go ahead and try

It does seem like people will always be buying "protection" that often kills them or their family.

Often?

Accidental gun deaths are actually quire rare

considering there are over 100 million people who own guns and about 600 accidental gun deaths per year that's .0006% of gun owners involved in an accidental death

If only everything had such a stellar safety record
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.

OK so once again I actually did the math

In 2014 41% of households reported having at least one gun. The average household consists of 2.58 people. There were an estimated 124.6 million households in 2015

That's 321.468 million people

41% of them say they have a gun at home

that's 131.8 million
 
No you're the one not getting it

You are never going to eliminate guns

but you go ahead and try

It does seem like people will always be buying "protection" that often kills them or their family.

Often?

Accidental gun deaths are actually quire rare

considering there are over 100 million people who own guns and about 600 accidental gun deaths per year that's .0006% of gun owners involved in an accidental death

If only everything had such a stellar safety record
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.

Sorry but you're wrong

in 2015 41% of US households surveyed said they had a gun
now how many of those that had a gun said they didn't?

There are about 125 million households. So your number is stupidly wrong.
unlike you I don't just make shit up

Gun ownership in the U.S. 1972-2015 | Statistic
 
Stairs are sure necessary if you have a two story house, and we have lots of them. How do you elimate two stories in crowded areas? Many cities have neighborhoods filled with them and small yards.

How do you eliminate lakes and oceans? Very young children do not take showers.

Now getting rid of guns, that would be easy by comparison. Most wouldn't even notice. Are you not getting it yet?

No you're the one not getting it

You are never going to eliminate guns

but you go ahead and try

It does seem like people will always be buying "protection" that often kills them or their family.

Often?

Accidental gun deaths are actually quire rare

considering there are over 100 million people who own guns and about 600 accidental gun deaths per year that's .0006% of gun owners involved in an accidental death

If only everything had such a stellar safety record
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.


Wrong......people are no longer answering anonymous surveys about keeping a gun in the home......the count is never going to show the true level of ownership...sales numbers and NICS checks are a better indicator of gun ownership and they are through the roof....June was another sales record for guns...

And no...it wasn't all just 2 guys in Idaho buying millions of guns....

I never answer surveys and phone surveys are the least reliable of all
 
Stairs are sure necessary if you have a two story house, and we have lots of them. How do you elimate two stories in crowded areas? Many cities have neighborhoods filled with them and small yards.

How do you eliminate lakes and oceans? Very young children do not take showers.

Now getting rid of guns, that would be easy by comparison. Most wouldn't even notice. Are you not getting it yet?

No you're the one not getting it

You are never going to eliminate guns

but you go ahead and try

It does seem like people will always be buying "protection" that often kills them or their family.

Often?

Accidental gun deaths are actually quire rare

considering there are over 100 million people who own guns and about 600 accidental gun deaths per year that's .0006% of gun owners involved in an accidental death

If only everything had such a stellar safety record
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.

OK so once again I actually did the math

In 2014 41% of households reported having at least one gun. The average household consists of 2.58 people. There were an estimated 124.6 million households in 2015

That's 321.468 million people

41% of them say they have a gun at home

that's 131.8 million

You really are not very bright.
 
No you're the one not getting it

You are never going to eliminate guns

but you go ahead and try

It does seem like people will always be buying "protection" that often kills them or their family.

Often?

Accidental gun deaths are actually quire rare

considering there are over 100 million people who own guns and about 600 accidental gun deaths per year that's .0006% of gun owners involved in an accidental death

If only everything had such a stellar safety record
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.
How many is many and how do you know that?

Seems to me "many" of these accidents happen when someone is careless. Oh, wait that's the very definition of accident isn't it?

And many happen like the OP, where the person claims to have trained in safety and yet someone still dead. But again people even get killed at concealed carry class. We don't need these people in public armed.

And professionally trained drivers still have accidents
Well trained air force pilots still have accidents


It's the human variable and accidents can and will happen to anyone who is careless at any time regardless of training and experience
 
It does seem like people will always be buying "protection" that often kills them or their family.

Often?

Accidental gun deaths are actually quire rare

considering there are over 100 million people who own guns and about 600 accidental gun deaths per year that's .0006% of gun owners involved in an accidental death

If only everything had such a stellar safety record
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.
How many is many and how do you know that?

Seems to me "many" of these accidents happen when someone is careless. Oh, wait that's the very definition of accident isn't it?

And many happen like the OP, where the person claims to have trained in safety and yet someone still dead. But again people even get killed at concealed carry class. We don't need these people in public armed.

And professionally trained drivers still have accidents
Well trained air force pilots still have accidents


It's the human variable and accidents can and will happen to anyone who is careless at any time regardless of training and experience

You are comparing guns to cars and planes? You can't be serious.
 
Often?

Accidental gun deaths are actually quire rare

considering there are over 100 million people who own guns and about 600 accidental gun deaths per year that's .0006% of gun owners involved in an accidental death

If only everything had such a stellar safety record
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.
How many is many and how do you know that?

Seems to me "many" of these accidents happen when someone is careless. Oh, wait that's the very definition of accident isn't it?

And many happen like the OP, where the person claims to have trained in safety and yet someone still dead. But again people even get killed at concealed carry class. We don't need these people in public armed.

And professionally trained drivers still have accidents
Well trained air force pilots still have accidents


It's the human variable and accidents can and will happen to anyone who is careless at any time regardless of training and experience

You are comparing guns to cars and planes? You can't be serious.

No you fucking MORON I am telling you that "well trained" people no matter what they are trained in still have accidents

It is the human variable and as long as that variable is present accidents will occur.
 
Guns are very simple, don't point at someone and pull the trigger. Many of these accidental deaths happen while holstering or unholstering. They are like having a fatal accident while pulling your car out of the garage.

No there are not 100 million gun owners. It's like 30%of households, that is way less than 100 million.
How many is many and how do you know that?

Seems to me "many" of these accidents happen when someone is careless. Oh, wait that's the very definition of accident isn't it?

And many happen like the OP, where the person claims to have trained in safety and yet someone still dead. But again people even get killed at concealed carry class. We don't need these people in public armed.

And professionally trained drivers still have accidents
Well trained air force pilots still have accidents


It's the human variable and accidents can and will happen to anyone who is careless at any time regardless of training and experience

You are comparing guns to cars and planes? You can't be serious.

No you fucking MORON I am telling you that "well trained" people no matter what they are trained in still have accidents

It is the human variable and as long as that variable is present accidents will occur.

Well moron, guns are extremely simple. Don't point and pull the trigger. Yet the people you want armed in public can't get through carry class without killing someone. Why is that?
 
How many is many and how do you know that?

Seems to me "many" of these accidents happen when someone is careless. Oh, wait that's the very definition of accident isn't it?

And many happen like the OP, where the person claims to have trained in safety and yet someone still dead. But again people even get killed at concealed carry class. We don't need these people in public armed.

And professionally trained drivers still have accidents
Well trained air force pilots still have accidents


It's the human variable and accidents can and will happen to anyone who is careless at any time regardless of training and experience

You are comparing guns to cars and planes? You can't be serious.

No you fucking MORON I am telling you that "well trained" people no matter what they are trained in still have accidents

It is the human variable and as long as that variable is present accidents will occur.

Well moron, guns are extremely simple. Don't point and pull the trigger. Yet the people you want armed in public can't get through carry class without killing someone. Why is that?

Knives are extremely simple
simpler than guns and people cut themselves accidentally all the time

People fuck up
People always have fucked up
people always will fuck up

there will never ever be a zero accident rate with anything people do

To think there can be is naivete so severe as to be called mental retardation
 
But the declining rates of gun ownership across three major national surveys suggest a different explanation: that most of the rise in gun purchases is driven by existing gun owners stocking up, rather than by people buying their first gun. A Washington Post analysis last year found that the average American gun owner now owns approximately eight firearms, double the number in the 1990s.

American gun ownership drops to lowest in nearly 40 years

Survey says....

Survey didn't contact me, or anyone I know.

The only one that would have responded that he did have a firearm in the house would be my son in law.

He carries one because of work
 

So accidents have been increasing dramatically. We have more accidental firearm death than most countries have intentional homicides.

again so what?

And actually accidental gun deaths have decreased a couple years ago it was over 600 now it's 586

and again still a stellar safety record

Went from 505 to 586, that's a big gain. Nothing stellar about it, guns are simple. Most sit in storage. They are used very little.
 

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