Marijuana abuse doubles in last 11 years

[BlindBoo]

You need to educate yourself and come to the acceptance that pot is a dangerous and debilitating substance for some if not many people.

The Shafer Commission -- officially known as the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse -- took its job seriously. They launched fifty research projects, polled the public and members of the criminal justice community, and took thousands of pages of testimony. Their work is still the most comprehensive review of marijuana ever conducted by the federal government.

After reviewing all the evidence, these drug warriors were forced to come to a different conclusion than they had at first expected. Rather than harshly condemning marijuana, they started talking about legalization. When Nixon heard such talk, he quickly denounced the Commission -- months before it issued its report.

As a result of Nixon's public rebuke, Shafer met with the President. The Commission was upset, and the purpose of the meeting was to reassure them. But Nixon didn't budge. Instead, he warned Shafer to get control of his commission and avoid looking like a "bunch of do-gooders" who are "soft on marijuana." He warned Shafer that the Commission would "look bad as hell" if it came out with recommendations different from the direction of Congress and the President.

Nixon reacted strongly to the report. In a recorded conversation on March 21, the day before the Commission released its report, Nixon said, "We need, and I use the word 'all out war,' on all fronts ... we have to attack on all fronts." Nixon and his advisors went on to plan a speech about why he opposed marijuana legalization, and proposed that he do "a drug thing every week" during the 1972 presidential election year. Nixon wanted a "Goddamn strong statement about marijuana ... that just tears the ass out of them."

For thirty years, the United States has taken the path of Nixon's prejudice and ignored the experts. We now have the largest prison population in world history, and drug problems are no closer to solved. Indeed, plenty of evidence indicates that drug-related problems are worse than ever.

Once-Secret "Nixon Tapes" Show Why the U.S. Outlawed Pot

 

[ClosedCaption]

What the hell is marijuana abuse? lol

 

[ClosedCaption]

i never abuse my smoke......

I drove to work today. Or as its known in some circles...Car abuse

 

[Skylar]

Only if you're ignorant if the risks of pot, which most pot advocates are.
Time to get beyond the 1960's.

What do you believe ARE the risks of pot?

Anxiety disorder and depression. Both of which are crippling and can be life sentences.

Is everyone susceptible to these disorders by way of marijuana?

Marijuana exacerbates some folks with anxiety. And it soothes others. It really depends on the person.

Does the totality of such incidents legitimize the reputation of marijuana as a danger? Are risks from smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol just as acute?

Logically, I wouldn't think so. For example, my mom gets acute migraines if she drinks red wine. Its a known side effect for some in consuming sulfides. But I wouldn't consider that side effect a dark mark on wine in particular or alcohol in general. She just doesn't drink red wine.

Similarly, if weed makes you anxious, don't smoke it.

And both tobacco and alcohol are physically addictive. Weed isn't, though weed can be habit forming the same way fast food or internet porn is. The cancer risks for both tobacco and alcohol are much higher than weed,

Alcohol poisoning can kill you outright. I don't know that its possible to do this with weed or tobacco. The withdrawals from alcohol can also be lethal. And there are none with weed.

Weed would outstrip the tobacco in terms of the psychotropic effects. But not alcohol...which can routinely lead to full on black outs.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Marijuana abuse, its like drinking water. You CAN over-dose on water, but you have to drink a hell of a lot of water.

If someone is using MJ and not doing their job, or DUI, or emptying the house of doritos right before a super bowl party, then maybe you could say something.

For other limits on MJ smoking, check with Jeff Spicoli.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

As I've been saying for years now, once you start down the road of legalization, you'll be seeing an increase of use.
Here in Oregon we've had "medical" marijuana for several years, and now add to that the legalization of recreational use, and you smell the addicts everywhere.
Kids will be getting the message that it's now okay, especially when you have adult morons with the continual "it's-not-as-bad-as-alcohol" drumbeat.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

There were especially large increases among women, blacks, Hispanics, southerners and middle-aged and older people.(Photo: Getty Images)

As attitudes and laws in the U.S. have become more tolerant of marijuana, the proportion of adults using and abusing the substance at least doubled between 2001 and 2013, according to a new study.

Although marijuana dependence and abuse was found to be on the rise, that is largely due to the overall increase in new users, researchers note, while existing marijuana users experienced a 15 percent decline in pot-related disorders.

About 4 percent of adults between 2001 and 2002 reported having used marijuana in the past year, compared to about 10 percent between 2012 and 2013. Similarly, 1.5 percent had abuse or dependence problems - so-called marijuana use disorder - at the start of the 21st Century, compared to about 3 percent from 2012 to 2013.

“What was quite clear is the prevalence of use among adults had more than doubled,” said Deborah Hasin, the study’s lead author from Columbia University in New York.

Twenty-three U.S. states allow for medical marijuana use, and four also allow recreational use, the researchers write in JAMA Psychiatry. More Americans also favor marijuana legalization than before, and fewer see the substance as risky.

Yet, the researchers write, little was known about how the prevalence of marijuana use and disorders changed during the first decade of the century.
For the new study, they compared data from face-to-face interviews with over 43,000 U.S. adults between 2001 and 2002 to data from over 36,000 people collected between 2012 and 2013.

They found that reports of having used marijuana in the past year more than doubled between the two time periods with especially large increases among women, blacks, Hispanics, southerners and middle-aged and older people.
The data also included information on whether participants were experiencing abuse or dependence.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

Of course more people are going to smoke if its legal.

As for 'marajuana not being as bad as alcohol', what's your point? Individual liberty and harm to society are a balancing act. There's a level of harm to society that's too great to bear and is thus criminalized. But anything *below* that level should be legal.

And weed is way, way below that level.

Not when you blow it into other people's bodies.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

As I've been saying for years now, once you start down the road of legalization, you'll be seeing an increase of use.
Here in Oregon we've had "medical" marijuana for several years, and now add to that the legalization of recreational use, and you smell the addicts everywhere.
Kids will be getting the message that it's now okay, especially when you have adult morons with the continual "it's-not-as-bad-as-alcohol" drumbeat.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001



Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

Better off getting stoned than drunk that's for gd sure.

Only if you're ignorant if the risks of pot, which most pot advocates are.
Time to get beyond the 1960's.

What do you believe ARE the risks of pot?

Anxiety disorder and depression. Both of which are crippling and can be life sentences.

Is everyone susceptible to these disorders by way of marijuana?

It's hard to say. Young people who smoke frequently are definitely at greater risk. And the result can be lifelong. Unfortunately, it's young people who perceive the 'OK' from the grown-ups when legalization and propaganda of the dismissal of harm is prevalent.

 

[Skylar]

As I've been saying for years now, once you start down the road of legalization, you'll be seeing an increase of use.
Here in Oregon we've had "medical" marijuana for several years, and now add to that the legalization of recreational use, and you smell the addicts everywhere.
Kids will be getting the message that it's now okay, especially when you have adult morons with the continual "it's-not-as-bad-as-alcohol" drumbeat.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

There were especially large increases among women, blacks, Hispanics, southerners and middle-aged and older people.(Photo: Getty Images)

As attitudes and laws in the U.S. have become more tolerant of marijuana, the proportion of adults using and abusing the substance at least doubled between 2001 and 2013, according to a new study.

Although marijuana dependence and abuse was found to be on the rise, that is largely due to the overall increase in new users, researchers note, while existing marijuana users experienced a 15 percent decline in pot-related disorders.

About 4 percent of adults between 2001 and 2002 reported having used marijuana in the past year, compared to about 10 percent between 2012 and 2013. Similarly, 1.5 percent had abuse or dependence problems - so-called marijuana use disorder - at the start of the 21st Century, compared to about 3 percent from 2012 to 2013.

“What was quite clear is the prevalence of use among adults had more than doubled,” said Deborah Hasin, the study’s lead author from Columbia University in New York.

Twenty-three U.S. states allow for medical marijuana use, and four also allow recreational use, the researchers write in JAMA Psychiatry. More Americans also favor marijuana legalization than before, and fewer see the substance as risky.

Yet, the researchers write, little was known about how the prevalence of marijuana use and disorders changed during the first decade of the century.
For the new study, they compared data from face-to-face interviews with over 43,000 U.S. adults between 2001 and 2002 to data from over 36,000 people collected between 2012 and 2013.

They found that reports of having used marijuana in the past year more than doubled between the two time periods with especially large increases among women, blacks, Hispanics, southerners and middle-aged and older people.
The data also included information on whether participants were experiencing abuse or dependence.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

Of course more people are going to smoke if its legal.

As for 'marajuana not being as bad as alcohol', what's your point? Individual liberty and harm to society are a balancing act. There's a level of harm to society that's too great to bear and is thus criminalized. But anything *below* that level should be legal.

And weed is way, way below that level.

Not when you blow it into other people's bodies.

Then tobacco would be illegal. As second hand tobacco smoke is a proven cancer causer.

But tobacco isn't illegal either. Again, once society establishes a baseline of acceptable harm, anything less harmful is also legal.

Or by any rational standard, should be. Its one of the reasons that weed is being decriminalized. The argument for its criminalization is inconsistent, illogical, and poorly thought through. Plus, the social costs of criminalization are too high.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Better off getting stoned than drunk that's for gd sure.

Only if you're ignorant if the risks of pot, which most pot advocates are.
Time to get beyond the 1960's.

What do you believe ARE the risks of pot?

Anxiety disorder and depression. Both of which are crippling and can be life sentences.

Is everyone susceptible to these disorders by way of marijuana?

Marijuana exacerbates some folks with anxiety. And it soothes others. It really depends on the person.

So the person who is soothed gets to inflict their harm onto the one who is devastated?

 

[Skylar]

Only if you're ignorant if the risks of pot, which most pot advocates are.
Time to get beyond the 1960's.

What do you believe ARE the risks of pot?

Anxiety disorder and depression. Both of which are crippling and can be life sentences.

Is everyone susceptible to these disorders by way of marijuana?

Marijuana exacerbates some folks with anxiety. And it soothes others. It really depends on the person.

So the person who is soothed gets to inflict their harm onto the one who is devastated?

If you have evidence of 'second hand devastation' from weed smoke, present it.

Personally, I think that weed should be treated like tobacco. With the same laws preventing second hand smoke.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Marijuana abuse, its like drinking water. You CAN over-dose on water, but you have to drink a hell of a lot of water.

If someone is using MJ and not doing their job, or DUI, or emptying the house of doritos right before a super bowl party, then maybe you could say something.

For other limits on MJ smoking, check with Jeff Spicoli.

The only difference is that you have it on record of people dying from drinking too much. Compared to camp fire stories that people weeded too much.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Only if you're ignorant if the risks of pot, which most pot advocates are.
Time to get beyond the 1960's.

What do you believe ARE the risks of pot?

Anxiety disorder and depression. Both of which are crippling and can be life sentences.

Is everyone susceptible to these disorders by way of marijuana?

Marijuana exacerbates some folks with anxiety. And it soothes others. It really depends on the person.

Does the totality of such incidents legitimize the reputation of marijuana as a danger? Are risks from smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol just as acute?

Oh, yeah! But it runs contrary to the agenda of the pot heads and the Marxist mentality that dominates the left these days. And, of course, the left dominates media which drives the message.
As for smoking and alcohol, they each have their inherent dangers all of which are addressed regularly and clearly labeled on packaging. Pot's dangers are largely dismissed, as demonstrated by the abject ignorance of that reality on this forum.

 

[Skylar]

What do you believe ARE the risks of pot?

Anxiety disorder and depression. Both of which are crippling and can be life sentences.

Is everyone susceptible to these disorders by way of marijuana?

Marijuana exacerbates some folks with anxiety. And it soothes others. It really depends on the person.

Does the totality of such incidents legitimize the reputation of marijuana as a danger? Are risks from smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol just as acute?

Oh, yeah! But it runs contrary to the agenda of the pot heads and the Marxist mentality that dominates the left these days. And, of course, the left dominates media which drives the message.
As for smoking and alcohol, they each have their inherent dangers all of which are addressed regularly and clearly labeled on packaging. Pot's dangers are largely dismissed, as demonstrated by the abject ignorance of that reality on this forum.

Then you're arguing for labeling? I'd be down for the same level of legality and packaging requirements for weed that alcohol and tobacco are subject to.

Sound reasonable?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You need to educate yourself and come to the acceptance that pot is a dangerous and debilitating substance for some if not many people.

The Shafer Commission -- officially known as the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse -- took its job seriously. They launched fifty research projects, polled the public and members of the criminal justice community, and took thousands of pages of testimony. Their work is still the most comprehensive review of marijuana ever conducted by the federal government.

After reviewing all the evidence, these drug warriors were forced to come to a different conclusion than they had at first expected. Rather than harshly condemning marijuana, they started talking about legalization. When Nixon heard such talk, he quickly denounced the Commission -- months before it issued its report.

As a result of Nixon's public rebuke, Shafer met with the President. The Commission was upset, and the purpose of the meeting was to reassure them. But Nixon didn't budge. Instead, he warned Shafer to get control of his commission and avoid looking like a "bunch of do-gooders" who are "soft on marijuana." He warned Shafer that the Commission would "look bad as hell" if it came out with recommendations different from the direction of Congress and the President.

Nixon reacted strongly to the report. In a recorded conversation on March 21, the day before the Commission released its report, Nixon said, "We need, and I use the word 'all out war,' on all fronts ... we have to attack on all fronts." Nixon and his advisors went on to plan a speech about why he opposed marijuana legalization, and proposed that he do "a drug thing every week" during the 1972 presidential election year. Nixon wanted a "Goddamn strong statement about marijuana ... that just tears the ass out of them."

For thirty years, the United States has taken the path of Nixon's prejudice and ignored the experts. We now have the largest prison population in world history, and drug problems are no closer to solved. Indeed, plenty of evidence indicates that drug-related problems are worse than ever.

Once-Secret "Nixon Tapes" Show Why the U.S. Outlawed Pot

Nixon was already out of office before pot began manifesting its dangerous effects on me, et al.
Geez, get out of the past! Progress a little already!

 

[Skylar]

Marijuana abuse, its like drinking water. You CAN over-dose on water, but you have to drink a hell of a lot of water.

If someone is using MJ and not doing their job, or DUI, or emptying the house of doritos right before a super bowl party, then maybe you could say something.

For other limits on MJ smoking, check with Jeff Spicoli.

The only difference is that you have it on record of people dying from drinking too much. Compared to camp fire stories that people weeded too much.

Oh, routinely. About 6 folks die a day from alcohol poisoning.

Alcohol Poisoning Deaths

With most accounts of people dying of weed poisoning beginning with 'once upon a time'.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

As I've been saying for years now, once you start down the road of legalization, you'll be seeing an increase of use.
Here in Oregon we've had "medical" marijuana for several years, and now add to that the legalization of recreational use, and you smell the addicts everywhere.
Kids will be getting the message that it's now okay, especially when you have adult morons with the continual "it's-not-as-bad-as-alcohol" drumbeat.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

There were especially large increases among women, blacks, Hispanics, southerners and middle-aged and older people.(Photo: Getty Images)

As attitudes and laws in the U.S. have become more tolerant of marijuana, the proportion of adults using and abusing the substance at least doubled between 2001 and 2013, according to a new study.

Although marijuana dependence and abuse was found to be on the rise, that is largely due to the overall increase in new users, researchers note, while existing marijuana users experienced a 15 percent decline in pot-related disorders.

About 4 percent of adults between 2001 and 2002 reported having used marijuana in the past year, compared to about 10 percent between 2012 and 2013. Similarly, 1.5 percent had abuse or dependence problems - so-called marijuana use disorder - at the start of the 21st Century, compared to about 3 percent from 2012 to 2013.

“What was quite clear is the prevalence of use among adults had more than doubled,” said Deborah Hasin, the study’s lead author from Columbia University in New York.

Twenty-three U.S. states allow for medical marijuana use, and four also allow recreational use, the researchers write in JAMA Psychiatry. More Americans also favor marijuana legalization than before, and fewer see the substance as risky.

Yet, the researchers write, little was known about how the prevalence of marijuana use and disorders changed during the first decade of the century.
For the new study, they compared data from face-to-face interviews with over 43,000 U.S. adults between 2001 and 2002 to data from over 36,000 people collected between 2012 and 2013.

They found that reports of having used marijuana in the past year more than doubled between the two time periods with especially large increases among women, blacks, Hispanics, southerners and middle-aged and older people.
The data also included information on whether participants were experiencing abuse or dependence.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

Of course more people are going to smoke if its legal.

As for 'marajuana not being as bad as alcohol', what's your point? Individual liberty and harm to society are a balancing act. There's a level of harm to society that's too great to bear and is thus criminalized. But anything *below* that level should be legal.

And weed is way, way below that level.

Not when you blow it into other people's bodies.

Then tobacco would be illegal. As second hand tobacco smoke is a proven cancer causer.

But tobacco isn't illegal either. Again, once society establishes a baseline of acceptable harm, anything less harmful is also legal.

Or by any rational standard, should be. Its one of the reasons that weed is being decriminalized. The argument for its criminalization is inconsistent, illogical, and poorly thought through. Plus, the social costs of criminalization are too high.

Second hand tobacco smoke as a cancer risk requires repeated and consistent exposure. Pot smoke is immediate. Like pepper spray.

 

[Skylar]

As I've been saying for years now, once you start down the road of legalization, you'll be seeing an increase of use.
Here in Oregon we've had "medical" marijuana for several years, and now add to that the legalization of recreational use, and you smell the addicts everywhere.
Kids will be getting the message that it's now okay, especially when you have adult morons with the continual "it's-not-as-bad-as-alcohol" drumbeat.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

There were especially large increases among women, blacks, Hispanics, southerners and middle-aged and older people.(Photo: Getty Images)

As attitudes and laws in the U.S. have become more tolerant of marijuana, the proportion of adults using and abusing the substance at least doubled between 2001 and 2013, according to a new study.

Although marijuana dependence and abuse was found to be on the rise, that is largely due to the overall increase in new users, researchers note, while existing marijuana users experienced a 15 percent decline in pot-related disorders.

About 4 percent of adults between 2001 and 2002 reported having used marijuana in the past year, compared to about 10 percent between 2012 and 2013. Similarly, 1.5 percent had abuse or dependence problems - so-called marijuana use disorder - at the start of the 21st Century, compared to about 3 percent from 2012 to 2013.

“What was quite clear is the prevalence of use among adults had more than doubled,” said Deborah Hasin, the study’s lead author from Columbia University in New York.

Twenty-three U.S. states allow for medical marijuana use, and four also allow recreational use, the researchers write in JAMA Psychiatry. More Americans also favor marijuana legalization than before, and fewer see the substance as risky.

Yet, the researchers write, little was known about how the prevalence of marijuana use and disorders changed during the first decade of the century.
For the new study, they compared data from face-to-face interviews with over 43,000 U.S. adults between 2001 and 2002 to data from over 36,000 people collected between 2012 and 2013.

They found that reports of having used marijuana in the past year more than doubled between the two time periods with especially large increases among women, blacks, Hispanics, southerners and middle-aged and older people.
The data also included information on whether participants were experiencing abuse or dependence.

Marijuana Use and Disorders Have Doubled Since 2001

Of course more people are going to smoke if its legal.

As for 'marajuana not being as bad as alcohol', what's your point? Individual liberty and harm to society are a balancing act. There's a level of harm to society that's too great to bear and is thus criminalized. But anything *below* that level should be legal.

And weed is way, way below that level.

Not when you blow it into other people's bodies.

Then tobacco would be illegal. As second hand tobacco smoke is a proven cancer causer.

But tobacco isn't illegal either. Again, once society establishes a baseline of acceptable harm, anything less harmful is also legal.

Or by any rational standard, should be. Its one of the reasons that weed is being decriminalized. The argument for its criminalization is inconsistent, illogical, and poorly thought through. Plus, the social costs of criminalization are too high.

Second hand tobacco smoke as a cancer risk requires repeated and consistent exposure. Pot smoke is immediate. Like pepper spray.

Show us the evidence that second hand weed smoke is like pepper spray. Or has any significant risk of harm.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

What do you believe ARE the risks of pot?

Anxiety disorder and depression. Both of which are crippling and can be life sentences.

Is everyone susceptible to these disorders by way of marijuana?

Marijuana exacerbates some folks with anxiety. And it soothes others. It really depends on the person.

So the person who is soothed gets to inflict their harm onto the one who is devastated?

If you have evidence of 'second hand devastation' from weed smoke, present it.

Personally, I think that weed should be treated like tobacco. With the same laws preventing second hand smoke.

If this happened to someone who has developed anxiety or depression issues from pot then this episode is all too clear of an example of the danger...

Boomer: It's True, I Had Second-Hand High During 'MNF' Broadcast

 

[Skylar]

Anxiety disorder and depression. Both of which are crippling and can be life sentences.

Is everyone susceptible to these disorders by way of marijuana?

Marijuana exacerbates some folks with anxiety. And it soothes others. It really depends on the person.

So the person who is soothed gets to inflict their harm onto the one who is devastated?

If you have evidence of 'second hand devastation' from weed smoke, present it.

Personally, I think that weed should be treated like tobacco. With the same laws preventing second hand smoke.

If this happened to someone who has developed anxiety or depression issues from pot then this episode is all too clear of an example of the danger...

Boomer: It's True, I Had Second-Hand High During 'MNF' Broadcast

So where is the 'pepper spray' or 'devastation' you were talking about from this anecdotal example?

“I mean, we’re 3 minutes into the game and Matt Millen’s already looking for something to eat. And Howard David is trying to keep us focused on the game, and Matt Millen and I are talking about everything but the game.

“We have the second-hand smoke going on. Now, we obviously know what’s happening, but we don’t necessarily know that we’re reacting to what’s happening. … I was laughing my a– off for the entire first half!”

Boomer: It's True, I Had Second-Hand High During 'MNF' Broadcast

Doesn't sound particularly pepper spray'y. Or 'devastating'.

 

[BlindBoo]

You need to educate yourself and come to the acceptance that pot is a dangerous and debilitating substance for some if not many people.

The Shafer Commission -- officially known as the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse -- took its job seriously. They launched fifty research projects, polled the public and members of the criminal justice community, and took thousands of pages of testimony. Their work is still the most comprehensive review of marijuana ever conducted by the federal government.

After reviewing all the evidence, these drug warriors were forced to come to a different conclusion than they had at first expected. Rather than harshly condemning marijuana, they started talking about legalization. When Nixon heard such talk, he quickly denounced the Commission -- months before it issued its report.

As a result of Nixon's public rebuke, Shafer met with the President. The Commission was upset, and the purpose of the meeting was to reassure them. But Nixon didn't budge. Instead, he warned Shafer to get control of his commission and avoid looking like a "bunch of do-gooders" who are "soft on marijuana." He warned Shafer that the Commission would "look bad as hell" if it came out with recommendations different from the direction of Congress and the President.

Nixon reacted strongly to the report. In a recorded conversation on March 21, the day before the Commission released its report, Nixon said, "We need, and I use the word 'all out war,' on all fronts ... we have to attack on all fronts." Nixon and his advisors went on to plan a speech about why he opposed marijuana legalization, and proposed that he do "a drug thing every week" during the 1972 presidential election year. Nixon wanted a "Goddamn strong statement about marijuana ... that just tears the ass out of them."

For thirty years, the United States has taken the path of Nixon's prejudice and ignored the experts. We now have the largest prison population in world history, and drug problems are no closer to solved. Indeed, plenty of evidence indicates that drug-related problems are worse than ever.

Once-Secret "Nixon Tapes" Show Why the U.S. Outlawed Pot

Nixon was already out of office before pot began manifesting its dangerous effects on me, et al.
Geez, get out of the past! Progress a little already!

"Their work is still the most comprehensive review of marijuana ever conducted by the federal government."

Shaffer was a long time drug warrior. But at least he was honest and took the job seriously and refused to produce a hack job.

When you were affected, did it make you want to rape and kill or what?