Marion Morrison
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Everybody has their standard. Here is mine:
One of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the unalienable Right to own property. A homeowner should own their home once the mortgage is satisfied; the songwriter has the Rights to his / her songs. An employer owns the job he / she creates.
For ANYONE out there to suggest that an employer who hires a foreigner is breaking some kind of law is out of their damn mind. The Constitution is the "Supreme Law of the Land" in the United States. When statutes conflict with the Constitution, the citizen can - and should disregard unconstitutional laws.
PRIOR to 9 / 11 and the Tea Party's assaults on the Constitution, employers used to be told that they had to fill out "I -9" paperwork before hiring an employee. Preamble Citizens scoffed at this farce. On the I - 9 form there was a number from the OMB (Office of Management and Budget.) That number would identify the agency requesting such information. Well, the I - 9 was issued by the old Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS.)
The reality was, the INS (now BICE / ICE) had ZERO authority in Social Security matters. I may still have a personal letter that was sent to me back in the day wherein the head of the Socialist Security Administration told me it was a private matter between the employer and employee if the employee ever divulged their SSN to the employer. Private employers are not agents of the federal government. Neither can the federal government force any private business to hire only Americans - constitutionally speaking.
The reality is, the Constitution does not give the federal government any authority over foreigners except in one area:
"Congress shall have the power... To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..." (Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution)
Despite the right's dishonest and socialist characterizations, the people coming here are not invaders. Whether we like it or not; accept it or not, the majority of Americans willingly do business with the foreigners. Here is how Black's Law Dictionary defines an invasion:
"An encroachment upon the rights of another; the incursion of an army for conquest or plunder." Webster. See ^Etna Ins. Co. v. Boon, 95 U. S. 129, 24 L. Ed. 395.
What is INVASION? definition of INVASION (Black's Law Dictionary)
The word Army in Blacks Law Dictionary is defined as:
"The armed forces of a nation intended for military service on land."
What is ARMY? definition of ARMY (Black's Law Dictionary)
There is no army, no invasion and no constitutional pretext for Trump's actions including those that would lead us to Martial Law. The problem you have with redefining words and terms against people you don't like, it can then be done to YOU. All I can tell you from personal experience: When you become the target and the left calls you domestic terrorists / enemy combatants / racists, then it becomes YOUR ass in those holding cells - and Uncle Scam can even hold you incommunicado, beat you, torture you, even kill you with NO Due Process due to anti-immigrant extremists and the stupid precedents that bear the signature of the right. Forewarned is forearmed.
Tell me more about this "Tea Party's assaults on the Constitution,", dud.
If anyone assaulted the Constitution, it was W. Bush with the Patriot act and Obama with EOs. The TEA party? Notsomuch.
One does need to make a distinction between the actual Tea Party of Ron Paul's type and those who tried to hijack the party like Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin.
The same people who supported the so - called "Patriot Act," the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify are the same ones who are pro - wall.
I would say that is mostly true. There may be an exception.
I support neither.Everybody has their standard. Here is mine:
One of the great hallmarks of our Republic is the unalienable Right to own property. A homeowner should own their home once the mortgage is satisfied; the songwriter has the Rights to his / her songs. An employer owns the job he / she creates.
For ANYONE out there to suggest that an employer who hires a foreigner is breaking some kind of law is out of their damn mind. The Constitution is the "Supreme Law of the Land" in the United States. When statutes conflict with the Constitution, the citizen can - and should disregard unconstitutional laws.
PRIOR to 9 / 11 and the Tea Party's assaults on the Constitution, employers used to be told that they had to fill out "I -9" paperwork before hiring an employee. Preamble Citizens scoffed at this farce. On the I - 9 form there was a number from the OMB (Office of Management and Budget.) That number would identify the agency requesting such information. Well, the I - 9 was issued by the old Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS.)
The reality was, the INS (now BICE / ICE) had ZERO authority in Social Security matters. I may still have a personal letter that was sent to me back in the day wherein the head of the Socialist Security Administration told me it was a private matter between the employer and employee if the employee ever divulged their SSN to the employer. Private employers are not agents of the federal government. Neither can the federal government force any private business to hire only Americans - constitutionally speaking.
The reality is, the Constitution does not give the federal government any authority over foreigners except in one area:
"Congress shall have the power... To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..." (Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution)
Despite the right's dishonest and socialist characterizations, the people coming here are not invaders. Whether we like it or not; accept it or not, the majority of Americans willingly do business with the foreigners. Here is how Black's Law Dictionary defines an invasion:
"An encroachment upon the rights of another; the incursion of an army for conquest or plunder." Webster. See ^Etna Ins. Co. v. Boon, 95 U. S. 129, 24 L. Ed. 395.
What is INVASION? definition of INVASION (Black's Law Dictionary)
The word Army in Blacks Law Dictionary is defined as:
"The armed forces of a nation intended for military service on land."
What is ARMY? definition of ARMY (Black's Law Dictionary)
There is no army, no invasion and no constitutional pretext for Trump's actions including those that would lead us to Martial Law. The problem you have with redefining words and terms against people you don't like, it can then be done to YOU. All I can tell you from personal experience: When you become the target and the left calls you domestic terrorists / enemy combatants / racists, then it becomes YOUR ass in those holding cells - and Uncle Scam can even hold you incommunicado, beat you, torture you, even kill you with NO Due Process due to anti-immigrant extremists and the stupid precedents that bear the signature of the right. Forewarned is forearmed.
Tell me more about this "Tea Party's assaults on the Constitution,", dud.
If anyone assaulted the Constitution, it was W. Bush with the Patriot act and Obama with EOs. The TEA party? Notsomuch.
One does need to make a distinction between the actual Tea Party of Ron Paul's type and those who tried to hijack the party like Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin.
The same people who supported the so - called "Patriot Act," the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify are the same ones who are pro - wall.
I would say that is mostly true. There may be an exception.
I support neither.
I don't support them either. We do have a problem. We have a problem with foreigners. But, it is neither a legal nor a military problem.
We have a problem thinking we can build a government that is big enough to save us from ourselves. The socialist thinking you see on this thread is NO SOLUTION.
As Americans we could boycott those we disagree with; associate with those of like mind; support efforts to get our own countrymen back on their feet - OFF the drugs, OUT of mommy's basement and INTO the workforce. We would abandon this nonsensical idea that we can have a million new people becoming citizens each year and think they will uphold and honor our values and culture (what little is left of it) - I'm still thinking Rep. Omar as the prime example.
Just because I'm not a knob polisher for Donald Trump does not mean that I don't see the subtle attacks on the posterity of the founders / framers of our Republic. I'm just not willing to surrender my Liberties over an issue the rank and file American can handle better without government assistance.
You ever seen illegal Mexicans take food off of your black friend's family table? Well I have, and I don't like that shit, no sir!
