Mass Shooting in Britain......4 men shot.....but...they have gun control...

[JakeStarkey]

The OP is false and ineffective.

Move it to conspiracy, please.

 

[Liminal]

There was a mass shooting in Britain....and I notice it wasnt' covered by the U.S. Press...I guess that is because it would hamper obama's claim that Europe has gun control...

Now keep in mind...Britain had confiscation of guns, they have strict gun control laws, far more extreme than any here in the states and and they are a first world country, so the anti gunners can't say they are like Mexico so they can't enforce their gun laws......

Sorry, Mr. President, England Had a 'Mass Shooting' Saturday - The Truth About Guns

Four men shot in legs in Birmingham - BBC News

From the BBC report.......so no...it isn't from the gun blog...they just linked to it...

Four men were taken to hospital with bullet wounds to their legs after a shooting in Birmingham.

Police said they were called to the Costcutter shop in Great Hampton Row, north of the city centre, on Saturday.

Three men remain in hospital for treatment for their injuries, which are not thought to be life-threatening.

West Midlands Police refused to speculate on any motive for the attack. There were no arrests and no direct appeal for witnesses.


And again....this guy could have walked into any school or a movie theater........so no...gun control does not work..even in Britain...

Four people? That's just another day anywhere in America.

Yeah..not supposed to be able to happen after Britain confiscated all their guns and implemented strict gun control...but nice try....

And maybe you will answer....

What kept this guy from going into a British school?

What kept this guy from going into a British movie theater?

Answer....nothing.

The only reason they don't have more mass shootings in Britain...their nuts haven't decided to do it....

Except of course for the 19 year old who planned on shooting up his old school...I posted earlier about that one....he was caught...

It's not supposed to be able to happen? Who says? You? Obviously they have less gun deaths in Britain because so few people have guns. Does that mean we should enact laws like that here? No, because they would be ineffective in a society that already has hundreds of millions privately owned guns in circulation.

Nope......guns in Britain are obviously easily acquired by 19 year olds when they want them...and this guy too.....

they didn't enact licensign, registration or background checks....they confiscated the guns and banned handguns.........

Well then since you seem to know so much about gun laws in Britain you should be able to tell me what kind of guns are available for a nineteen year old there.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Does britain have murder control or gun control?

You guys keep telling us that they are the same thing.

No, no guys are telling you that.

And again...4 guys shot.......apparently they don't have gun control either.....

Shooting control or gun control?

And please...maybe you will answer this...

What stopped him from walking into a school?

What stopped him from walking into a theater?

Nothing stopped him...he just didnt do it. Nothing "stopped" me from going to a theater either

 

[Liminal]

There was a mass shooting in Britain....and I notice it wasnt' covered by the U.S. Press...I guess that is because it would hamper obama's claim that Europe has gun control...

Now keep in mind...Britain had confiscation of guns, they have strict gun control laws, far more extreme than any here in the states and and they are a first world country, so the anti gunners can't say they are like Mexico so they can't enforce their gun laws......

Sorry, Mr. President, England Had a 'Mass Shooting' Saturday - The Truth About Guns

Four men shot in legs in Birmingham - BBC News

From the BBC report.......so no...it isn't from the gun blog...they just linked to it...

Four men were taken to hospital with bullet wounds to their legs after a shooting in Birmingham.

Police said they were called to the Costcutter shop in Great Hampton Row, north of the city centre, on Saturday.

Three men remain in hospital for treatment for their injuries, which are not thought to be life-threatening.

West Midlands Police refused to speculate on any motive for the attack. There were no arrests and no direct appeal for witnesses.


And again....this guy could have walked into any school or a movie theater........so no...gun control does not work..even in Britain...

What's Britain's murder rate again?

Britain the most violent country in Europe and even worse than South Africa and U.S.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

• The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
• It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
• The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
• It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.

In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents......

Feel free to post the number of gun deaths in Britain.

 

[Toro]

There was a mass shooting in Britain....and I notice it wasnt' covered by the U.S. Press...I guess that is because it would hamper obama's claim that Europe has gun control...

Now keep in mind...Britain had confiscation of guns, they have strict gun control laws, far more extreme than any here in the states and and they are a first world country, so the anti gunners can't say they are like Mexico so they can't enforce their gun laws......

Sorry, Mr. President, England Had a 'Mass Shooting' Saturday - The Truth About Guns

Four men shot in legs in Birmingham - BBC News

From the BBC report.......so no...it isn't from the gun blog...they just linked to it...

Four men were taken to hospital with bullet wounds to their legs after a shooting in Birmingham.

Police said they were called to the Costcutter shop in Great Hampton Row, north of the city centre, on Saturday.

Three men remain in hospital for treatment for their injuries, which are not thought to be life-threatening.

West Midlands Police refused to speculate on any motive for the attack. There were no arrests and no direct appeal for witnesses.


And again....this guy could have walked into any school or a movie theater........so no...gun control does not work..even in Britain...

Straw man.

The argument isn't that gun control eliminates gun violence. The argument is that it reduces gun violence.

And in Britain - which has tight gun control - the rate of gun violence is multitudes lower than in the US.

Nope...that is your argument....and they just didn't enact gun control...they confiscated and banned all handguns and put severe limits on long guns......so no...gun control does not work....you can't lie about it like that....

Our gun control laws have reduced gun murder rates too....and we have 12.8 million people carrying guns for self defense..

As British gun crime increases...what will you blame it on..since they already confisctated guns....

The only people who articulate the false premise that gun control eliminates gun violence are people who distort the argument to advance their own ideology.

Like you.

You don't pay attention to the argument. You hear what you want to hear and distort arguments to reinforce your own ideology.

Gun control in most western countries bans or tightly controls handguns. Long guns are less regulated.

 

[westwall]

There was a mass shooting in Britain....and I notice it wasnt' covered by the U.S. Press...I guess that is because it would hamper obama's claim that Europe has gun control...

Now keep in mind...Britain had confiscation of guns, they have strict gun control laws, far more extreme than any here in the states and and they are a first world country, so the anti gunners can't say they are like Mexico so they can't enforce their gun laws......

Sorry, Mr. President, England Had a 'Mass Shooting' Saturday - The Truth About Guns

Are there any laws that someone could make that will be both constitutional AND actually work?

Yes. Violent criminals get locked up forever.

 

[Rustic]

Gun control only works for dictators...

Hashtag frivolous laws

 

[Liminal]

OP is a hasty generalization apropos of nothing. And a fallacy of argumentum: gun control does not eliminate murders, it greatly reduces murders is the right argument. The UK's shooting and murder rates by gun are fare below the US in numbers and per capita. Move the OP to conspiracies, please.

No laws will ever eliminate gun deaths from our society, and Americans will never give up their Constitutionally guaranteed rights to have guns. But we can obviously make laws designed to reduce the possibility of crazy fuckers buying guns legally. Criminal types will always get guns. But how many of these mass school shooting freaks would have the street smarts to know how to buy a gun illegally? Probably almost none, since all those guys seem to be mentally ill, socially retarded shut ins.

 

[bodecea]

Does britain have murder control or gun control?

You guys keep telling us that they are the same thing. And again...4 guys shot.......apparently they don't have gun control either.....

And please...maybe you will answer this...

What stopped him from walking into a school?

What stopped him from walking into a theater?

Could you point out the poster who ever claimed that "gun control" will stop ALL shootings?

 

[Pogo]

When we had 0 gun control laws we had a less violent society....

SMH... There's never been a time we (or anybody) had "0 gun control laws" but if you mean when we had fewer, then you have the two elements backward. Legislation would manifest in reaction to the violence.... not the other way around. You don't pass laws for situations that don't yet exist.

That's why George Washington never signed an air pollution law and Jefferson didn't propose any CAFE standards for cars. Think about it.

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[Book of Jeremiah]

There was a mass shooting in Britain....and I notice it wasnt' covered by the U.S. Press...I guess that is because it would hamper obama's claim that Europe has gun control...

Now keep in mind...Britain had confiscation of guns, they have strict gun control laws, far more extreme than any here in the states and and they are a first world country, so the anti gunners can't say they are like Mexico so they can't enforce their gun laws......

Sorry, Mr. President, England Had a 'Mass Shooting' Saturday - The Truth About Guns

Four men shot in legs in Birmingham - BBC News

From the BBC report.......so no...it isn't from the gun blog...they just linked to it...

Four men were taken to hospital with bullet wounds to their legs after a shooting in Birmingham.

Police said they were called to the Costcutter shop in Great Hampton Row, north of the city centre, on Saturday.

Three men remain in hospital for treatment for their injuries, which are not thought to be life-threatening.

West Midlands Police refused to speculate on any motive for the attack. There were no arrests and no direct appeal for witnesses.


And again....this guy could have walked into any school or a movie theater........so no...gun control does not work..even in Britain...

What's Britain's murder rate again?

Britain the most violent country in Europe and even worse than South Africa and U.S.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

• The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
• It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
• The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
• It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.

In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents......

Feel free to post the number of gun deaths in Britain.

I was asked for the murder rate and I gave it. If you do not like the facts that have been put in front of you that is too bad. How a person is murdered does not change the fact that they were murdered. Gun ownership has been proven to save lives. Not take them. The criminals will always manage to find a weapon of some sort.

The statistics on murder in Britain prove that if the victims had a gun to protect themselves with they might still be alive.

 

[Rustic]

Does britain have murder control or gun control?

You guys keep telling us that they are the same thing. And again...4 guys shot.......apparently they don't have gun control either.....

And please...maybe you will answer this...

What stopped him from walking into a school?

What stopped him from walking into a theater?

Could you point out the poster who ever claimed that "gun control" will stop ALL shootings?

It can help stop any so why even consider it...

 

[Pogo]

Gun ownership has been proven to save lives. Not take them.

(a) no it hasn't, that's not even possible; and (b) also blatantly false. Unless you want to go dig up the graves of all the shooting victims on the wrong end of an owned gun and tell them they're not really dead and they should shake it off and get back out there.

 

[Rustic]

Gun ownership has been proven to save lives. Not take them.

(a) no it hasn't, that's not even possible; and (b) also blatantly false. Unless you want to go dig up the graves of all the shooting victims on the wrong end of an owned gun and tell them they're not really dead and they should shake it off and get back out there.

Gun control save lives, lol

When pigs fly...

Hashtag no proof

 

[TheOldSchool]

There was a mass shooting in Britain....and I notice it wasnt' covered by the U.S. Press...I guess that is because it would hamper obama's claim that Europe has gun control...

Now keep in mind...Britain had confiscation of guns, they have strict gun control laws, far more extreme than any here in the states and and they are a first world country, so the anti gunners can't say they are like Mexico so they can't enforce their gun laws......

Sorry, Mr. President, England Had a 'Mass Shooting' Saturday - The Truth About Guns

Four men shot in legs in Birmingham - BBC News

From the BBC report.......so no...it isn't from the gun blog...they just linked to it...

Four men were taken to hospital with bullet wounds to their legs after a shooting in Birmingham.

Police said they were called to the Costcutter shop in Great Hampton Row, north of the city centre, on Saturday.

Three men remain in hospital for treatment for their injuries, which are not thought to be life-threatening.

West Midlands Police refused to speculate on any motive for the attack. There were no arrests and no direct appeal for witnesses.


And again....this guy could have walked into any school or a movie theater........so no...gun control does not work..even in Britain...

What's Britain's murder rate again?

Britain the most violent country in Europe and even worse than South Africa and U.S.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

• The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
• It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
• The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
• It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.

In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents......

Feel free to post the number of gun deaths in Britain.

I was asked for the murder rate and I gave it. If you do not like the facts that have been put in front of you that is too bad. How a person is murdered does not change the fact that they were murdered. Gun ownership has been proven to save lives. Not take them. The criminals will always manage to find a weapon of some sort.

The statistics on murder in Britain prove that if the victims had a gun to protect themselves with they might still be alive.

They have a murder rate of 1 per 100,000. Far lower than the U.S.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Does britain have murder control or gun control?

You guys keep telling us that they are the same thing. And again...4 guys shot.......apparently they don't have gun control either.....

And please...maybe you will answer this...

What stopped him from walking into a school?

What stopped him from walking into a theater?

Could you point out the poster who ever claimed that "gun control" will stop ALL shootings?

Just note false OP every time he tries it.

 

[Rustic]

There was a mass shooting in Britain....and I notice it wasnt' covered by the U.S. Press...I guess that is because it would hamper obama's claim that Europe has gun control...

Now keep in mind...Britain had confiscation of guns, they have strict gun control laws, far more extreme than any here in the states and and they are a first world country, so the anti gunners can't say they are like Mexico so they can't enforce their gun laws......

Sorry, Mr. President, England Had a 'Mass Shooting' Saturday - The Truth About Guns

Four men shot in legs in Birmingham - BBC News

From the BBC report.......so no...it isn't from the gun blog...they just linked to it...

Four men were taken to hospital with bullet wounds to their legs after a shooting in Birmingham.

Police said they were called to the Costcutter shop in Great Hampton Row, north of the city centre, on Saturday.

Three men remain in hospital for treatment for their injuries, which are not thought to be life-threatening.

West Midlands Police refused to speculate on any motive for the attack. There were no arrests and no direct appeal for witnesses.


And again....this guy could have walked into any school or a movie theater........so no...gun control does not work..even in Britain...

What's Britain's murder rate again?

Britain the most violent country in Europe and even worse than South Africa and U.S.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

• The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
• It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
• The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
• It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.

In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents......

Feel free to post the number of gun deaths in Britain.

I was asked for the murder rate and I gave it. If you do not like the facts that have been put in front of you that is too bad. How a person is murdered does not change the fact that they were murdered. Gun ownership has been proven to save lives. Not take them. The criminals will always manage to find a weapon of some sort.

The statistics on murder in Britain prove that if the victims had a gun to protect themselves with they might still be alive.

They have a murder rate of 1 per 100,000. Far lower than the U.S.

People kill people... Not guns.

Most people learned that before grade school...
Obviously some were to slow too, or just bad genetics void of common sense.

Hashtag go live over there

 

[TheOldSchool]

Gun ownership has been proven to save lives. Not take them.

(a) no it hasn't, that's not even possible; and (b) also blatantly false. Unless you want to go dig up the graves of all the shooting victims on the wrong end of an owned gun and tell them they're not really dead and they should shake it off and get back out there.

Gun control save lives, lol

When pigs fly...

Hashtag no proof

The U.S. has the highest murder rate in the first world, and the weakest gun laws in the first world. And more mass shootings than the rest of the first world combined.

But yeah hashtag no proof or whatever.

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Britain's murder rate again?

Britain the most violent country in Europe and even worse than South Africa and U.S.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

• The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
• It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
• The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
• It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.

In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents......

Feel free to post the number of gun deaths in Britain.

I was asked for the murder rate and I gave it. If you do not like the facts that have been put in front of you that is too bad. How a person is murdered does not change the fact that they were murdered. Gun ownership has been proven to save lives. Not take them. The criminals will always manage to find a weapon of some sort.

The statistics on murder in Britain prove that if the victims had a gun to protect themselves with they might still be alive.

They have a murder rate of 1 per 100,000. Far lower than the U.S.

People kill people... Not guns.

Most people learned that before grade school...
Obviously some were to slow too, or just bad genetics void of common sense.

Hashtag go live over there

If all U.S. gun control advocates moved over there, the U.S. murder rate would skyrocket. So we're staying for you!

Hashtag GFY

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Gun ownership has been proven to save lives. Not take them.

(a) no it hasn't, that's not even possible; and (b) also blatantly false. Unless you want to go dig up the graves of all the shooting victims on the wrong end of an owned gun and tell them they're not really dead and they should shake it off and get back out there.

Gun control save lives, lol

When pigs fly...

Hashtag no proof

The U.S. has the highest murder rate in the first world, and the weakest gun laws in the first world. And more mass shootings than the rest of the first world combined.

But yeah hashtag no proof or whatever.

Not according to the actual statistics, O.S. Not even close. look at the report I posted again. here it is:

Britain the most violent country in Europe and even worse than South Africa and U.S.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents.......
Why is the United States crime rate so much lower than these other countries?

We have 2nd Amendment rights here.